[ozmidwifery] Amcal Feedback Form
hi all here is the reply i got from the letter i sent to amcal, we'll see if they follow thru thought everyone might like these phone numbers emilyKate Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear Emily Thank you for your email and comments. I have forwarded to the marketing manager and asked him to reply to you directly when he returns from leave 24 January. In the interim if you would like to speak with me you can contact me on the numbers listed below or via return email best regards, Kate RoseAmcal Club ManagerDir: +3 9542 9490Mob: 0400 18 11 65AMCAL1408 Centre Rd CLAYTON VIC 3168Freecall: 1800 500 760Comment: Hello,I am writing to deplore a recent brochure read in an Amcal store that is extremely misleading about infant nutrition! . The statement 'Breastmilk is generally considered healthy,' is statistically and medically wrong as well as being socially and economically irresponsible. No health professional in the current age would ever agree that infant formula is better or even as good as breastmilk for an infant and although you do not explicity say that, it is quite likely the message that people will take away from the brochure. To disadvantage infants and their families in order to sell more products is deplorable and i urge you to take better care in the information portrayed on this matter and encourage women to breastfeed their babies.I hope that you take these comments in to accountRegardsEmily Dorman*** This email and any files transmitted with it are! strictly confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notifythe author immediately. *** Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo!
RE: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support
Hi Kate, Perhaps she could try Blacktown hospital. I've attended a few births as a doula at the birth centre in Blacktown and one of my clients had a student midwife following her through the pregnancy and birth. I also co-ordinate homebirth access sydney as well as run Active Birth workshops in the Blue Mtns, if she wants to get in touch she can call me on 47 51 9840. Cheers Jo Hunter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kate /or NickSent: Monday, 10 January 2005 10:15 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support Hi I'm a mature aged second year BMid student at UniSA. One of our younger students moved to Adelaide from Tasmania last year to do the course. She is a really lovely, mature, perceptive girl and has been very supportive of fellow students (including me) through various traumas. Given all the changes she had to manage last year, I think she did really well, but recruiting follow throughs was a problem for her. Part of the problem was lack of networks, and part her youth - and that she looks quite young. This year she will probably be living around Parramatta NSW. So yet again, she is in a new state, with no networks, and limited access to the pregnant women she desperately needs. Sophie I discussed emailing this group. I am sending the email because she felt a little self consciousdoing self-promotionand I can probably say nice things about her that she would hesitate to say about herself! She is keen, open to learning, really sweet (making that comment makes me feel old!). She is aware of her limitations. And because of her lack of networks, she really needs help to get those follow through women to meet course requirements. I believe she has joined the homebirth group in an attempt to meet some pregnant women. I have spoken to my family in Sydney, but was hoping that some of you in Sydney (esp western and nth-western!) might be able to help her. Advice, ideas, or pregnant women would be wonderful. Is anyone able to take her under their wing? What are good/bad hospitals to approach. Are there any people she should contact? Many thanks Kate
Re: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support
Many thanks Jo. WIll pass it on to her. Kate - Original Message - From: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support Hi Kate, Perhaps she could try Blacktown hospital. I've attended a few births as a doula at the birth centre in Blacktown and one of my clients had a student midwife following her through the pregnancy and birth. I also co-ordinate homebirth access sydney as well as run Active Birth workshops in the Blue Mtns, if she wants to get in touch she can call me on 47 51 9840. Cheers Jo Hunter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kate /or NickSent: Monday, 10 January 2005 10:15 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support Hi I'm a mature aged second year BMid student at UniSA. One of our younger students moved to Adelaide from Tasmania last year to do the course. She is a really lovely, mature, perceptive girl and has been very supportive of fellow students (including me) through various traumas. Given all the changes she had to manage last year, I think she did really well, but recruiting follow throughs was a problem for her. Part of the problem was lack of networks, and part her youth - and that she looks quite young. This year she will probably be living around Parramatta NSW. So yet again, she is in a new state, with no networks, and limited access to the pregnant women she desperately needs. Sophie I discussed emailing this group. I am sending the email because she felt a little self consciousdoing self-promotionand I can probably say nice things about her that she would hesitate to say about herself! She is keen, open to learning, really sweet (making that comment makes me feel old!). She is aware of her limitations. And because of her lack of networks, she really needs help to get those follow through women to meet course requirements. I believe she has joined the homebirth group in an attempt to meet some pregnant women. I have spoken to my family in Sydney, but was hoping that some of you in Sydney (esp western and nth-western!) might be able to help her. Advice, ideas, or pregnant women would be wonderful. Is anyone able to take her under their wing? What are good/bad hospitals to approach. Are there any people she should contact? Many thanks Kate
Re: [ozmidwifery] Amcal Feedback Form
That's the exact same reply I received from Kate Rose at amcal :) Jayne - Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Amcal Feedback Form hi all here is the reply i got from the letter i sent to amcal, we'll see if they follow thru thought everyone might like these phone numbers emilyKate Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear Emily Thank you for your email and comments. I have forwarded to the marketing manager and asked him to reply to you directly when he returns from leave 24 January. In the interim if you would like to speak with me you can contact me on the numbers listed below or via return email best regards, Kate RoseAmcal Club ManagerDir: +3 9542 9490Mob: 0400 18 11 65AMCAL1408 Centre Rd CLAYTON VIC 3168Freecall: 1800 500 760Comment: Hello,I am writing to deplore a recent brochure read in an Amcal store that is extremely misleading about infant nutrition! . The statement 'Breastmilk is generally considered healthy,' is statistically and medically wrong as well as being socially and economically irresponsible. No health professional in the current age would ever agree that infant formula is better or even as good as breastmilk for an infant and although you do not explicity say that, it is quite likely the message that people will take away from the brochure. To disadvantage infants and their families in order to sell more products is deplorable and i urge you to take better care in the information portrayed on this matter and encourage women to breastfeed their babies.I hope that you take these comments in to accountRegardsEmily Dorman*** This email and any files transmitted with it are! strictly confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notifythe author immediately. *** Do you Yahoo!?All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo!
Re: [ozmidwifery] Amcal
I agree to a certain extent. The only problem I have is that when I had my first child, I was encouraged by two different MCH nurses to give formula when they didn't think my baby was gaining 'fast' enough! And I'm sure we've all heard about doctors prescribing women a certain drug and insisting they can't breastfeed anymore. Jayne - Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Amcal Wow! that quote is amazing. i dont know if this has been thought of before - im sure it probably has but has but i have thought for a long time that baby formula should be a prescription only or MW advised only product. it should never be available over the counter in chemists and certainly not in supermarkets! its too easy for women having trouble who have too little support and resources to turn to formula without being given proper advice. At least if a prescription or letter from some other health professional (MW, LC) was required before it could be bought, there is some assurance that advice would have been given (hopefully pro BFing!) and the decision wouldnt have been made in the spur of the moment and without guidance. the reason most things are made prescription-only is that they have the potential to harm and should only be used in very particular circumstances in particular ways - as is the case with formula ! but any attempt to make this happen would mean economic losses to formular companies and all vendors who sell it, so would obviously not be welcomed ! does anyone agree ? emily jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amcal have annoyed me in the past with their promotion of baby formula. Theyoften offer coupons for discount formulathrough their baby club. I remember emailing them when I first noticed that but the reply I received clearly showed they didn't give a hoot because as far as they were concerned they weren't 'advertising' baby formula. Fine line if you ask me. They are the only chemist within a 35 minute drive for me but I still avoid them at all costs. Jayne - Original Message - From: Barb Glare To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:20 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Amcal Hi, I ruined my day today by picking up a brochure at an Amcal pharmacy. I quote "Feeding ProblemsWhether you are breast or bottle feeding your baby, things don't always go smoothly. Some women have problems with cracked, sore nipples and infection (called mastitis) Some babies can have difficulty in attaching to the breast or with sucking. It may also take time before the production of breastmilk adjusts to your baby's needs. Your Amcal pharmacist can offer advice on many common feeding problems and, if you are bottle feeding your baby, they can help you choose the right formula from the many available. Breast milk is generally considered good for babies and you can consult your Pharmacist or GP when considering formula products."priceless, huh? Odd how they mention you may have problems whether you are breastfeeding or bottle feeding, but all the problems they mention are breastfeeding problems. Not that baby's stools will be so hard they will! be agony to pass. Not the problems associated with allergies etc. And the last sentenceI'm speechlessIf you are offended by this as I am, I suggest that you report this to APMAIF Their guidelines are at http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/publishing.nsf/Content/health-pubhlth-strateg-foodpolicy-apmaif.htmBut don't take them too literally, just let them know that you are NOT HAPPY with this sort of behaviour. I have met with APMAIF, and they tell me they don't see the point in attempting to strengthen their scope of practice because they rarely ever get complaints from mothers or health professionals. If you feel the urge to complain to AMCAL their website is www.amcal.com.au Barb Do you Yahoo!?The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free!
Re: [ozmidwifery] And this from the rural doctors!!!
Title: And this from the rural doctors!!! Thanks for passing this on. MM
[ozmidwifery] Midwifery today
Quote of the Week "Normal birth should become standard, saving technology for urgent, emergency situations." Jill CohenThe Art of Midwifery First stage begins when the cervix is dilated to 4 cm. From that point on, the sun should not set twice on the woman. This is the maxim that was used by obstetricians in the days before the hospital accountants started telling them they had to "turn the beds." When hospitals became industrial factories and fiscal efficiencies took precedence over patient watchfulness, the guidelines for progress changed accordingly. But women's bodies are still the same. The best way for a woman to have a great birth nowadays is not to let anyone know when her sensations begin. She should spend the early part of her birth away from people, in the dark, private, and eating/drinking healthy foods (no MSG, no nitrates). One of the reasons we have so much interference in North American birth right now is that young women are overly dramatic. Add to that the desire of caregivers to stay out of trouble and the desire of hospital administrators to pinch pennies and voila!you have a 28% c-section rate. Gloria Lemay, Vancouver, BCMidwifery Today Forums
[ozmidwifery] ISO homebirth midwife, central coast NSW
hi, I am looking for a homebirth midwife willing to catch my third baby (second homebirth), due Sept '05 in Gosford NSW (slightly north of Sydney). If you know of anyone who might be persuaded, please, please have them contact me? I'm happy to go to them for all pre-birth visits, and we are willing to pay travel expenses as well as their usual fee to anyone willing to help. Thanks for letting me post this here, and *waves* to any of you who I have already called ;-). Hope 0243283211 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] midwives vs obstetricians
Isn't it a shame that the birthing experience isn't the other way around? It should be how much experience in normal, non interventionist births should I have before working in a level 3 birth suite. Then at least midwives would have had the chance to see what unadulterated birth is all about! Sally - Original Message - From: Nicole Hmelnitsky To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:49 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] midwives vs obstetricians Im hoping to get some advice and words of support from midwives working in Sydney metro area. I am a new grad midwife of 6 months that is currently working on a postnatal ward and about to rotate to the birthing unit (of a large tertiary referral hospital in the south west Sydney area). My fear is the conflict I have with obstetricians who love to make decisions on behalf of women without any concern/respect/autonomy such as blanket decisions with comments like: if she is 5cm rupture her membranes and if not established put up the Synto etc etc or not allowing a primip to at least have a fair go at pushing before the ventouse or forceps come out. I know that obstetricians have their place but I am already feeling the stress thinking about trying to fight these Men and their decisions. It is true, the later a woman presents to hospital, the better it is for her because there is less time to intervene. My question is this:- How much birthing unit experience do I need before I am eligible to apply for a birth centre or another lower risk delivery suite and does anyone know of anything coming up! Thanks Nicole
