RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCVic] Castlemaine update
Dear Ellie, Congratulations on both fronts! That is wonderful news. You have really put in a lot of effort on behalf of Castlemaine women, and news of your pregnancy is very exciting. Nicole Carver.
Fw: [ozmidwifery] Oral EPO dose for cervix?
- Original Message -
From: Kathy McCarthy-Bushby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Oral EPO dose for cervix?
Hi Kelly,
Sounds like a confusing visit with the registrar. But great news of giving
the woman more time to focus on getting into labour. Continuing the EPO
would be a suggestion, vaginal application may be helpful especially if
the
cervix is closed, although it can be messy, so wearing pads can be
helpful.
After a period to time of taking EPO, caullophyllum can be used in
conjunction with EPO (have a look at the birthrites website or phone
contact
birthrites). Other suggestions are accupressure, sex, clitoral
stimulation,
orgasm, passionate kisses, nipple stimulation including using a breast
pump
which can all be done antenatally. Maybe, encouraging the woman to focus
on
things that help her get out of her head space eg baths, massages, walks
on
the beach, navel gazing, visualising, drawing or writing being in labour
and
pushing the baby out, remind her that she can do it, affirmations like i
can
trust my body and baby will stimulate labour and i can safely birth my
baby
and placenta etc The birthrites and cares website has lots of great
information including other women's vbac birth stories, or does the woman
know someone who has had a vbac that she can chat to. The other important
thing to consider is the position of the baby, to encourage an anterior
position encourage leaning forward positions and spending time on hands
and
knees 2-3 times a day for 10-20 mnutes etc...
Maybe, in the meantime, chat to staff at Monash about whether they use the
balloon, known as the ATAD ripener device for labour induction, and if
they
have skilled personel to insert it if the woman's cervix is still
unfavourable. It's not unusual for vbac women to go overdue either. But
it's
good to have a back up plan.
keep the good work up
kathy
- Original Message -
From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Oral EPO dose for cervix?
Yesterday was a bit of a flop - had a very questionable registrar who had
no
history on my client (well hadn't bothered reading which she should have
being a high risk patient, in more ways than just a VBAC). She had trouble
finding the cervix and continued on to say it was closed. I asked if it
was
at least soft and she said yes, but on speaking to my client who
apparently
checked for herself only hours before, she said it was definitely hard and
closed - so I am really questioning this registrar who had no idea... My
client is going public at Monash... Registrar made her another appointment
for next Friday (11 days post dates) which I thought was good in that they
are giving her the opportunity to go into spontaneous labour - but we had
to
ask her several times for a scan to check placenta function / fluid since
she was going overdue ('no, you had one at 19 weeks you don't need anymore
for a pregnancy - how about some monitoring?') - to which we reminded her
that in her last pregnancy, the umbilical cord fell off the placenta as
baby
was born via caesar... *argh* - it was a complete nightmare for poor mum
and
me to listen to it! She said yes about a balloon induction but then said
no
they don't have the skills to do it - very confusing - it was like she had
no idea what was going on. So mum is freaking out, will be going for more
monitoring and a scan on Tuesday morning to which mum is more relieved to
get confirmation of the placenta and fluid being okay. I think if this
registrar turns up when mum is in labour, she will have a heart attack. If
she makes it to Friday, she has an appointment with the consultant, so
she'll get more sense out of it... I really hope she can hang in there.
Best Regards,
Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy
McCarthy-Bushby
Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2005 9:33 PM
To: Ozmidwifery
Subject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Oral EPO dose for cervix?
- Original Message -
From: Kathy McCarthy-Bushby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Oral EPO dose for cervix?
Hi Kelly,
The balloon can be used for any primip or multip with an unripe cervix
with
baby in a cephalic position. The balloon seems to be far safer with
far
less
side effects than the prostaglandin gel (which of course can not be
used
in
vbac women). I have also seen the balloon used in women planning a
vbac after 1 and 2 c/s with success. Ooops, i'd better clarify, the
balloon is not used for
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences
I was wanting some assistance to find out the best type of baths for our birthing suites. I am working in rural queensland and we do have severe water restrictions at present and have been hearing a lot about smaller corner baths. I would love some ideas on costs, manufacturers, and benefits from your experience with tubs.. thanks Jenni * This email, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this email is strictly prohibited. The information contained in this email, including any attachment sent with it, may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this email in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone collect on Australia +61 1800 198 175 or by return email. You should also delete this email, and any copies, from your computer system network and destroy any hard copies produced. If not an intended recipient of this email, you must not copy, distribute or take any action(s) that relies on it; any form of disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this email is also prohibited. Although Queensland Health takes all reasonable steps to ensure this email does not contain malicious software, Queensland Health does not accept responsibility for the consequences if any person?s computer inadvertently suffers any disruption to services, loss of information, harm or is infected with a virus, other malicious computer programme or code that may occur as a consequence of receiving this email. Unless stated otherwise, this email represents only the views of the sender and not the views of the Queensland Government.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences
Hi Jennifer, I completely agree that sometimes a corner spa is pref to afree standing pool esp when you take into account the water restrictions etc. We have a free-standing pool at Rosebud Mid a corner bath. Of the 2, the corner is much cosier, the access isn't a problem for the women, their partners or the midwives we don't have doctors at births. The pool is big accessible from 3 sides but feels veryexposed open, not good for petite women either as some say they feel a bit overwhelmed by the large expanse of water. We use it alot ( we do alot of waterbirths at Rosebud ) butthe smaller bath was nicer, easier to fill, kept hot longer, less water waste, smaller cosier room.had quite a few advantages really butis in the middle of the post natal ward whereas the pool is in the actualbirth suite. If we were building again, I think we'd do it differently that's for sure but access from 3 sides is probably (for better access/OHS thingies), the issue if anyone collapses ( which has never happened in 12 years as I say ,we do alot of waterbirths). A pre-formed spa (our pool is a poured concrete shell) would have been a better option, with inset seats, kneeling ledges etc, we did try to tell the designers this but as usual 'they' told the midwives we didn't know anything their way was betterso we got the concrete pool. The ordinary run of the mill domestic spa (no jets)would have been cheaper, taken less water, retained the heat, emptied filled faster ( a big consideration in a fast labour), been easy to clean la, la la . I think Rosebud Midwifery Unitsort of slips under the radar withthe progressive mid they/we practice there butoften have 17 years ofexperience in stuffother units are only just implementing could benefit from. IfI can be any help with practical hands on teaching in the water-birth fields please pass it on, we do run workshops will travel. I am only too happy to help ( 30 years of expmust be useful somewhere). Cheers Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Jennifer Price To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences I was wanting some assistance to find out the best type of baths for our birthing suites. I am working in rural queensland and we do have severe water restrictions at present and have been hearing a lot about smaller corner baths. I would love some ideas on costs, manufacturers, and benefits from your experience with tubs.. thanks Jenni*This email, including any attachments sent with it, isconfidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s).This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it andyou are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/received in error.Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution orreview of this email is strictly prohibited. The informationcontained in this email, including any attachment sent withit, may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if itrelates to health service matters.If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you havereceived this email in error, you are asked to immediatelynotify the sender by telephone collect on Australia+61 1800 198 175 or by return email. You should alsodelete this email, and any copies, from your computersystem network and destroy any hard copies produced.If not an intended recipient of this email, you must not copy,distribute or take any action(s) that relies on it; any form ofdisclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of thisemail is also prohibited.Although Queensland Health takes all reasonable steps toensure this email does not contain malicious software,Queensland Health does not accept responsibility for theconsequences if any person?s computer inadvertently suffersany disruption to services, loss of information, harm or isinfected with a virus, other malicious computer programme orcode that may occur as a consequence of receiving thisemail.Unless stated otherwise, this email represents only the viewsof the sender and not the views of the Queensland Government.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hair dye
Title: Message thanks for the info. I will pass it on. Sylvia Boutsalis Childbirth Educator Infant Massage Instructor Adelaide -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PäiviSent: Saturday, 24 September 2005 7:47 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hair dye Hi! I have had my hair dyed for more, than 10 years with Sebastian's Color Shine, which is peroxide-free, alcohol-free and ammonia-free, Colourshines uses pure, natural colour pigments that are safely deposited on the hair. It has 17 different shades, which can be mixed also. I use a mixture of three different reds, and love the colour. It is bright, but looks natural. The distributer is Wella, and it is only available in hair salons. Päivi - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hair dye Hi Sylvia I am unsure what the research says about this one, or if there has been any good quality research donebut I have a friend who is a hairdresser, specializes in colouring, and her advice to me, (and she took it herself when she had her first baby last year) was to avoid the permanent colours, particularly on the roots of the hair, for the first trimester, but that semi-permanent colours were fine. They simply coat the hair with a layer of colour, rather than penetrating into the hair shaft/follicle/potentially the skin. So perhaps your friend could use a semi for the time being, just to be on the safe side. I think there are some more natural hair colours out there too, not sure who makes them, and then there is always henna. Hope that helps Tania From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Sylvia BoutsalisSent: Thursday, 22 September 2005 5:52 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] hair dye hello, can anyone help with this enquiry. A friend of mine is just pregnant. She dyes her hair about every 3 weeks as she has a lot of white hair. What is the viewpoint of hair dye and pregnancy? Thanks in advance. Sylvia Boutsalis Childbirth Educator Infant Massage Instructor Adelaide
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences
As a midwife on a homebirth program that attends 62% water births, I have good knowledge about baths suitable for water labour and birth. We have portable, demountable baths that have new liners for each client. They are flexible in size, are about 4-5ft radius and 2 ft high. (120- 180cm X 60cms) The flexibility is size is because we can add or remove the 12mm x 69cms panels. Women often use their own in-built ones in their bathrooms. The 3 corner spa ones are great IF they have no seats or ledges and are as close to 60cms deep as possible. This is because it allows women plenty of space to spread their legs. The majority of women who use round or triangular tubs choose the spread knees, kneeling, leaning forward on the sides of the bath position. Physiologically this is a marvelous position to labour and birth. I have found the domestic triangular tubs with good depth to be very suitable. It is important to have some section where the woman can lean forward over the edge of the bath without hitting their head on a wall. I noticed in the video art of Birth, those women in the more rectangular tubs seemed to have no option except to lie down or semi- sit. The FBC at KEMH has a wonderful tub which is rectangular bath about 1m wide at its narrowest. It has the addition of squat bars near the taps and a shower head option which is wonderful for spraying on the back. Unfortunately, they are not allowed to do water births, only water labours and now you have to get out. The 2 new baths in the main deliviery suite of KEMH have the more rectangular baths which are a little bit shallow and encourage the woman into the lying down postion. The architects didnt listen to the midwives either. I hope this helps. Cheers, Mary Murphy
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences
Dear Jenny, Don't get the corner one's get a round one without spa as the reserviour is a cleaning nightmare. Ring the Birth Centre on Monday after 1 pm and talk to Marg Fien as she ordered the one's in the Birth Centre so she can give you the low down on manufacturers, priceetc RegardsAnne ClarkeMidwife Birth Centre, Brisbane - Original Message - From: Jennifer Price To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences I was wanting some assistance to find out the best type of baths for our birthing suites. I am working in rural queensland and we do have severe water restrictions at present and have been hearing a lot about smaller corner baths. I would love some ideas on costs, manufacturers, and benefits from your experience with tubs.. thanks Jenni*This email, including any attachments sent with it, isconfidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s).This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it andyou are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/received in error.Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution orreview of this email is strictly prohibited. The informationcontained in this email, including any attachment sent withit, may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if itrelates to health service matters.If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you havereceived this email in error, you are asked to immediatelynotify the sender by telephone collect on Australia+61 1800 198 175 or by return email. You should alsodelete this email, and any copies, from your computersystem network and destroy any hard copies produced.If not an intended recipient of this email, you must not copy,distribute or take any action(s) that relies on it; any form ofdisclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of thisemail is also prohibited.Although Queensland Health takes all reasonable steps toensure this email does not contain malicious software,Queensland Health does not accept responsibility for theconsequences if any person?s computer inadvertently suffersany disruption to services, loss of information, harm or isinfected with a virus, other malicious computer programme orcode that may occur as a consequence of receiving thisemail.Unless stated otherwise, this email represents only the viewsof the sender and not the views of the Queensland Government.__ NOD32 1.1231 (20050923) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences
We make sure the room and conditions are very private, warm cosy (or cool in our hot summer) Yes, we all have different experiences. We all work with what we have to facilitate undisturbed birthing. We are all very skilled at it and congratulations to us all. Cheers, MM How interesting that we all have different views on the pool suitable for birthing ! Does this mean MW as a group are just a contrary bunch ? Everyone has their own set of experiences I guess.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences
Dear All, I also forgot to mention that here in Queensland there is a Q health policy that you have to have access to at least 3 sides of the pool for labouring/birthing women. The baths in the birth suites in the RWH Brisbane have been vetoed for use because of thispolicy from Q health, however, because we use round, deeper pools in the Birth Centre we have a greater access than the corner baths and so they couldn't use this excuse when they banned the use of the pools in the birth suite. If anyone in Queensland hosptials are thinking of adding a birth pool please take this issue into consideration. Even if you opt for the corner baths remember to give at least a three side access and lets face it on a corner bath it all around. I also find the deep round pools we use are great for bouyancy as they are by description far deeper than the corner baths available to my knowledge. We have 2 steps and a large landing on one side for ease of access too. We had to provide a bed trolley that could lever to the edge and to thelevel of the bath so (if necessary) we could then get the mother out easily if she was unable to exit herself. To date there has never beena problem with a mother unable to exit the bath by herself. This was never a problem with any of the home births I have attended either, but it makes the health and safetypeople in the hospital happy. Mind you this is the lot that took 3 months and 12 people meetings for them to develop a policy on how how to justclean the bath after we had been cleaning it quite successfully for the previous 5 years with any infection problems. RegardsAnne Clarke Birth Centre, Brisbane - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences How interesting that we all have different views on the pool suitable for birthing ! Does this mean MW as a group are just a contrary bunch ? Everyone has their own set of experiences I guess. I do agree with Anne about the spas being an infection control nightmare with Mary about the not hitting heads on walls when leaning over the sides, plus space to spread knees, but with the larger inbuilt domestic spas seats ledges can be very restful. I too have noticed that the rectangular shape encourages women to lie down unless you actively promote hands knees lengthways in tub then there's not much room for her partner. At the homebirths I attend we use all sorts they all work well as long as the water is deep enough, warm enough roomy enough.Paddling pools are great. The concept of a bath/pool in the middle of a room exposed on 3 sides reminds me of being in a fish bowl, not somewhere cosy, dark, snug private to birth in, but open toview...yuk !! Unless the room was really small nesty (then it'd be an OHS problem)it's a bit like being on public display allfor the attendants benefit, not the clients. Remember those Russian videos of the waterbirths in a transparent tub where the OB "plays" with the baby under the water the mother is almost justan onlooker ? I get really angry every time I see that video even though I know they are demonstrating a point, I feel he takes over her birth 'owns her baby' ! Rant over !! I (can't recall seeing many mammals birthing in a 'public' arena now that Icome to think of it) ! Brenda - Original Message - From: Anne Clarke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences Dear Jenny, Don't get the corner one's get a round one without spa as the reserviour is a cleaning nightmare. Ring the Birth Centre on Monday after 1 pm and talk to Marg Fien as she ordered the one's in the Birth Centre so she can give you the low down on manufacturers, priceetc RegardsAnne ClarkeMidwife Birth Centre, Brisbane - Original Message - From: Jennifer Price To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath preferences I was wanting some assistance to find out the best type of baths for our birthing suites. I am working in rural queensland and we do have severe water restrictions at present and have been hearing a lot about smaller corner baths. I would love some ideas on costs, manufacturers, and benefits from your experience with tubs.. thanks Jenni*This email, including any attachments sent with it, isconfidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s).This confidentiality is not
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RE: [ozmidwifery] CPD
Title: Message Brenda, I found this interesting information belowon the Childbirth Solutions website: http://www.childbirthsolutions.com/articles/birth/vbacinfo/index.php Cephalo-pelvic disproportion (CPD) This indication has been shown repeatedly to be inaccurate as a predictor of the possibility of future vaginal births. Up to 77% of women with a previous caesarean for CPD have a later vaginal birth. One third of them with larger babies. (ICEA Review). X-rays are notoriously inaccurate as a means of diagnosing CPD. The movement of a woman's pelvis during labour and the position of the baby are so significant that an x-ray prior to, or during, pregnancy cannot reliably indicate the likelihood of vaginal birth. Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth BabyAustralian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanningSent: Tuesday, 20 September 2005 7:03 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD Thank you BM - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] CPD I'll put my mind to work on this one. All I can say is that I hear it all the time from women with Obs (surprise, surprise) and most women I know have birthed larger subsequent babies but at home without obstetric *ahem* "wisdom". A friend was dx with CPD with her 8lber and then pushed out an 11lber at home - no tear, no graze! I'll look around. Something rings a bell... J - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:48 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] CPD Hi listers, A ? Do you think CPD is overdiagnosed ? If so how often would this misdiagnosis occur do you think ? Plus how often is it wrong ? Any idea where I'd find this info ?? Brenda www.themidwife.com.au --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/107 - Release Date: 20/09/2005
