Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity
islips wrote: I agree totally with you Gloria. I managed to put on 16kg's with both my pregnancies and had GDM. I am very careful with what I feed my two children as I am very aware of their risk factors for developing type 2 diabetes later in life. My 2 1/2 year old loves vegetables and fruit. If we have a 'special treat' she will pick fruit juice over chocolates / lollies etc. Some of my friends are amazed that my 8 month olds favorite food is lentils!!! Some of my friends have only fed their children tinned food from the very beginning. it is unfortunate that buying organic is so expensive. zoe We are just starting to feed Will solids now - he's 6 months and 1 week today. We have discovered an organic porridge and organic rice cereal, and organic teething rusks. They are not expensive - $3.19 per pk. As for the other stuff.. I know you can get organic bananas in the supermarket, too. But anything other than these basics, and yes, it is harder to find and more expensive :( Jo
Re: [ozmidwifery] CF screening
In my experience, both professionally and personally, yes, there certainly is pressure to terminate once given a positive result. I do know mothers of DS and other syndrome babies who have the test next time round, NOT to terminate, but to prepare against the shock at birth. This is certainly a valid reason for some, but many doctors in particular cannot understand anyone continuing a pregnancy if the baby were to be 'defective'. It is a brave couple indeed who continue with their pregnancy in the face of this. There is a brilliant book "Expecting Adam" by Martha Beck which is the story of one couple in this situation. Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Ken WArd To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] CF screening The article is great, and I wish I'd had it for antenatal visits. So many women think if they have all the tests they'll have a ok baby. We pushed the tests, even though we were supposed to be low intervention. Have the tests if you want, as Robyn says, it doesn't mean you have to terminate. Can anyone tell us if there is pressure following a positive result? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy ChapmanSent: Sunday, 4 December 2005 3:13 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] CF screening This article on the birthinternational site is good for decisions re downs, I am sure it could be extrapolated to CF. http://www.birthinternational.com/articles/dietsch01.html Cheers JudyRobyn Dempsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who says that because testing is available, that you have to terminate? The testing allows choice. My sister has made friends who have children with CF, they knew they carried the gene and took the attitude " I know what to do with CF kids, it doesn't bother me". On! ce again, I read judgment. Testing allows choice.the choice to terminate, or the choice to prepare for a child with extra needs. Robyn D Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Music: Vote on Who's Next and see your favourite band live No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 1/12/2005
Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity
hi all I dont think finding organic is very hard at all, yes it is sometimes a lot more expensive but often only a little bit. Coles has a whole new range of organic products which contains nearly everything - wheat bix, olive oil, fruit and vegies, nuts, pasta sauces, pasta, eggs, flour, sugar, even tomato sauceetc etc. Many things in the organic section of supermarkets arent much more expensive eg potatoes, sweet potatoes, capsicums... i think if you can stretch even for a few items its well worth it and the taste difference is incredible. We are just starting to feed Will solids now - he's 6 months and 1 week today. We have discovered an organic porridge and organic rice cereal, and organic teething rusks. They are not expensive - $3.19 per pk. As ! for the other stuff.. I know you can get organic bananas in the supermarket, too. But anything other than these basics, and yes, it is harder to find and more expensive :(Jo Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [ozmidwifery] David Miller
Hi Em, found this online, seems he is still at Mullumbimby. http://www.nrdgp.org.au/news.html?NewsID=4307 Cheers, Di - Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] David Miller Hi everyone Im also looking for an email address or some other contact for David Miller if anyone has one Thanks alot EmilySue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mary,Yes John is still alive and well at 83 years old. I have emailed you privately with his details.Sue An ex-client and long-time supporter is looking for information about John. He is still alive isnt he? Does anyone have a recent contact address? I will pass on any information. Thanks, Mary Murphy__ NOD32 1.1311 (20051202) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com Yahoo! PersonalsSkip the bars and set-ups and start using Yahoo! Personals for free
[ozmidwifery] Re: Omeo midwife?
Hi Noah and Danika, I managed to contact my midwife friend yesterday and I'm afraid she doesn't know of anyone doing homebirths in the area, not even from Bairnsdale. However, it is probably something she hasn't had to look into in the past. I looked on the Homebirth Australia website and the closest I could find was Maffra which is probably too far away. There were midwives listed just with mobile phone numbers, so I don't know where they are situated. Keep trying and good luck with your endeavours to find somebody. Sorry I can't give you more joy on the subject. Regards, Joy Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLC BRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity
my biggest concern about growing my own vegtables is that i dont know the history of he soil where we live. zoe - Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity growing organic food isnt expensive though, its really cheap and teaches kids so much about eating food that is freshstraight from the earth - not a can or microwave haha. you can grow enough vegetables for a family by rotating and replanting as you need.i havent tried this technique but it sounds great (www.squarefootgardening.com) sorry this isnt directly relevant, but if it helps grow healthy families andchildrenand save money and the earths resources then i guess it is ! love emilyJanet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also find it deeply unsatisfactory because we know that breastfeeding is the way to avoi! d obesity and yet we don't promote bf as part of the package. There's no mention in this of whether or not the mothers or children were bf to WHO guidelines. J - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity This is an "I remember" tale... I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the ! weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport. Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad. With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.html Print this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who followed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or ex! cessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers
Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity
hi yeh thats really true. with this method though its all above ground in boxes so you can purchase organic soil and fertilisers and buy organic seeds and then be sure that theyre nasty-free emilyislips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest concern about growing my own vegtables is that i dont know the history of he soil where we live. zoe- Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesitygrowing organic food isnt expensive though, its really cheap and teaches kids so much about eating food that is freshstraight from the earth - not a can or microwave haha. you can grow enough vegetables for a family by rotating and replanting as you need.i havent tried this technique but it sounds great (www.squarefootgardening.com) sorry this isnt directly relevant, but if it helps grow healthy families andchildrenand save money and the earths resources then i guess it is ! ! love emilyJanet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also find it deeply unsatisfactory because we know that breastfeeding is the way to avoi! d obesity and yet we don't promote bf as part of the package. There's no mention in this of whether or not the mothers or children were bf to WHO guidelines. J- Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityThis is an "I remember" tale...I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the ! weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport.Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about! healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad.With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au- Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityhttp://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.htmlPrint this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who f! ollowed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or ex! cessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive h! ealth, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian Yahoo! PersonalsSingle? There's someone we'd like you to meet.Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals
Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity
hi yeh thats really true. with this method though its all above ground in boxes so you can purchase organic soil and fertilisers and buy organic seeds and then be sure that theyre nasty-free emilyislips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest concern about growing my own vegtables is that i dont know the history of he soil where we live. zoe- Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesitygrowing organic food isnt expensive though, its really cheap and teaches kids so much about eating food that is freshstraight from the earth - not a can or microwave haha. you can grow enough vegetables for a family by rotating and replanting as you need.i havent tried this technique but it sounds great (www.squarefootgardening.com) sorry this isnt directly relevant, but if it helps grow healthy families andchildrenand save money and the earths resources then i guess it is ! ! love emilyJanet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also find it deeply unsatisfactory because we know that breastfeeding is the way to avoi! d obesity and yet we don't promote bf as part of the package. There's no mention in this of whether or not the mothers or children were bf to WHO guidelines. J- Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityThis is an "I remember" tale...I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the ! weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport.Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about! healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad.With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au- Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityhttp://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.htmlPrint this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who f! ollowed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or ex! cessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive h! ealth, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian Yahoo! PersonalsSingle? There's someone we'd like you to meet.Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals
Re: [ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!
yes JO - its fabulous!!pinky - Original Message - From: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Cc: 'sarahjbuckley' Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now! Hi all, I received a copy of Sarahs book 2 weeks ago in the post to review for Birthings magazine and although I have not yet read it from cover to cover I have referred to it at least 5 times in the last 2 weeks both for my work as a CBE and as a doula, as well as a mother of 4 children. Sarah writes so beautifully in very easy to understand laywomans terms and everything that we innately know about birth and mothering she has backed up with scientific evidence. Id highly recommend a copy for any midwives, doulas, CBEs, OBs and mothers book shelf its a gem! Cheers Jo From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Joanne Steve FisherSent: Sunday, 4 December 2005 10:08 AMTo: OzmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] Sarah Buckley's book: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now! Subject: Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering now!Dear friendsI am excited to tell you that my book, Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering: The wisdom and science of gentle choices in pregnancy, birth, and parenting is now in my webshop and available for purchase at http://www.sarahjbuckley.com/shop/I am thrilled with the production of Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering. The lush cover (artwork by Durga Bernhard) reflects the beauty and gentleness of birth and mothering, and the cover colours are vibrant with vegetable-based inks. Inside, the layout and design are pleasing, and the 100% recycled paper gives the book a lovely feelI am also getting wonderful feedback about the content, and it is so good to have all my best articles in one place. All of those mothers, grandmothers, professional, parents who have emailed me with questions about Lotus birth, homebirth, cord clamping after cesarean, cord blood banking, ecstatic birth, co-sleeping, breastfeeding (and much more) can now find the answers! There are also articles about the safety of ultrasound and epidurals (a longer version of the article in the current Mothering), breech birth, caesareans, prenatal testing for Down syndrome, yoga and motherhood, raising babies without nappies/diapers and lots of my own stories.You can read Ina May Gaskins words of wisdom in the foreword I was privileged to chair a panel at the recent APPPAH conference in San Diego on care during labour, which included Ina May (upcoming blog!). Inas foreword is a great rave about the spread of birth fright vs the birth-giving capacities of our bodies.You can also read what my reviewers have to say about Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering as you scroll down athttp://www.sarahjbuckley.com/html/gentle-birth-gentle-mothering.htm My latest reviewer is Deepak Chopra, who says:Sarah Buckley creatively integrates mind/body wisdom with the latest scientific research to provide women with the essential tools they need to make conscious choices throughout their pregnancy and birth.To celebrate my opening and thanks to the generosity of the lovely Carla Hartley of Ancient Art Midwifery I have some small gifts for my first 50 buyers among you. While over in the US last month, Carla gave me some samples of the badges, wristbands, transfers and magnets that she produces to make birth a talking point in public, as part of her Trust Birth campaign (www.trustbirth.com). Some of the slogans are listed at the bottom and there are also groovy purple Trust Birth wrist bands.You will need to mention this offer under special instructions at the checkout, and you can also give your preferences.Please take a wander around at my shop. You can pay by credit card via paypal or by fax or mail order. I also have copies of the book Lotus birth and a favourite New Zealand book, the Paper Midwife.Dont forget to mention the Trust Birth bonuses when you check out.Please support my work by passing this email on to interested friends and contacts, thanks so much! (Can someone let the ozmidwifery elist know also?)Blessings to you allSarah Trust Birth- slogans on badges and magnets, about 1 inch diameterMore babies prefer homebirthWomen do not need to be rescued from birthBirth truth=birth trustTrust birth - your baby doesBirth belongs to womenBabies ? midwivesOwn your birthStop the madness - say no to surgical birthStop the spread of birthfrightBirth is safe, interference is riskyMore babies prefer homebirthAsk me about homebirthBirth questions answered herePlusTrust Birth (purple wristband)More babies prefer homebirth
[ozmidwifery] RM birth announcement:)
Well I am happy to announce thesafe arrival of my university transcript closely followed by my registration and cute little badge after a three year labour at Flinders university. Many thanks to the midwives, my fellow students, lecturersand the BMid collective and Ozmid list for their help and support. I start work on an early at Mt Barker Hospital tomorrow and I cant wait. Yarho! Julie Garratt RM :)
Re: [ozmidwifery] RM birth announcement:)
well done Julie Andrea Q On 05/12/2005, at 5:41 PM, Julie Garratt wrote: Well I am happy to announce the safe arrival of my university transcript closely followed by my registration and cute little badge after a three year labour at Flinders university. Many thanks to the midwives, my fellow students, lecturers and the BMid collective and Ozmid list for their help and support. I start work on an early at Mt Barker Hospital tomorrow and I cant wait. Yarho! Julie Garratt RM :)
