Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Why dont you go to a good nursery and ask them what plants would thrive in a pot with a placenta. Maybe you need a pair of pots ( and half in each as it might be too much for one and would also increase your chances of having one survive Andrea Q On 20/02/2006, at 7:46 PM, Jo Watson wrote: Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
My experience is that it needs to be planted about a month before the plant is put on top of it. It needs to break down before tender roots are put on it. It would be awful to have the plant die. MM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Monday, 20 February 2006 5:00 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Why dont you go to a good nursery and ask them what plants would thrive in a pot with a placenta. Maybe you need a pair of pots ( and half in each as it might be too much for one and would also increase your chances of having one survive Andrea Q On 20/02/2006, at 7:46 PM, Jo Watson wrote: Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
That makes sense. I am sure to kill anything that I plant though except the succulents my MIL planted for me. I need something very hardy! I actually wanted to plant the placenta with our dog Abby who died 2 weeks after Will was born, but we forgot and Matt refused to dig her up again! ;) I'm following this thread with interest :) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 5:04 PM, Mary Murphy wrote: My experience is that it needs to be planted about a month before the plant is put on top of it. It needs to break down before tender roots are put on it. It would be awful to have the plant die. MM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Monday, 20 February 2006 5:00 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Why dont you go to a good nursery and ask them what plants would thrive in a pot with a placenta. Maybe you need a pair of pots ( and half in each as it might be too much for one and would also increase your chances of having one survive Andrea Q On 20/02/2006, at 7:46 PM, Jo Watson wrote: Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Hi Jo Vicky, I was given a 'Mother's Love' rose bush when my daughter was born (the same day as Jo's little boy). We brought a large pot and buried the placenta. We left it for a month or so to decompose. We were told that the placenta being so nutrient rich would kill anything planted if not left to do so first. Then we planted our rose, which is now just beautiful. Had our own burying and planting 'ceremonies' and took photos, although have been questioned many times as to why i wanted a photo of my placenta! Naomi Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Re: diabetes incipidus and breastfeeding
Dear Lactational Consultants, Can anyone help with lactation establishment for Gravida 2 Para 1 coming in for induction tomorrow. Has diabetes incipidus, did not lactate last time, takes demopressin nasal sprays? Thankyou, Barbara Stokes, Parkes -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
'We were told that the placenta being so nutrient rich would kill anything planted if not left to do so first' Hi Naomi, I hadn't heard this when I planted my twins placentas (placentae?) under a weeping cherry tree in our front yard, and whilst it didn't kill it, it came very, very close, and it took a really long time to bring it back from the brink. So yes, I can vouch for it being too rich to plant directly under something. I like the pot idea Vicky - not sure how I'd feel about leaving that tree behind if we ever moved. Regards Bernadine
[ozmidwifery] Re: placental gardening
Well since I have absolutely no clue about gardening I planted a lime tree straight on top of my youngest daughter's placenta (14 months after being in the freezer LOL I think I had letting go issues!) and while it didn't die it didn't exactly thrive either for about a year. It's looking really good now (15 months after planting) and I put it in a rather big, tall pot. But letting it decompose a bit first sounds like a good idea! I too am a plant killer - although I prefer to think of it as my tough love regime - any plant that survives in my garden is worthy of my attention and precious water LOL Good luck with it!! Hugs, Larissa -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Dear All I can vouch for the following plants Camellia in a pot (very happy) 1st babe 6.5 years ago Grevillea (grew like bloody wildfire) nearly 5 years old David Austin old world Rose Only a bit sad due to drought and a forgotten area of the yard - um ma! (3 years old) Now what to plant for the twins? Yes HUGE placenta. I have a huge garden but virtually no space. I am thinking of something with a double flower (yes I like matching and all that cutesy meaning stuff!!), suggestions?? I planted the plant and placenta at the same time but the Camellia was originally in the ground. I gave the placenta a fair bit of space below the root ball of the plant. I am a keen gardener (yet dont know too much) and I would think as a rule anything that likes blood and bone should do fine. A native (like a Grevillea) should be an exception. I think Marys advice re staged planting is very sound. Perhaps ask what plants like rich soil and blood and bone type additions. Justine 6 HB babes all with/to have planted placentas (and I said placenta planting was hippy when first introduced to HB rituals, Ah how we eat our words!)
RE: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Hi I had two placentas (or are they placentae) in my freezer at one stage. The first thing to be sure of, is to thaw the placenta properly! I have to admit that the significance of placing your placenta under a tree is marred when the tree dies, due to having frozen placenta under it. Unfortunately that was what happened to me. However I had many friends in NZ who 'planted' their placentas under roses and fruit trees and kauri and the like. Choose a 'hardy' plant... my personal preference is fruit trees because I like the idea that my placenta is bearing fruit of it's own. Cheers Lindsay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Monday, 20 February 2006 6:47 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening How about a grafted fruit tree Justine? Like a lemon/lime, or a lime/mandarine? You get two different fruits off the same tree, and fruit trees love the organic stuff On this topic, I think I may hold the current world record for keeping a placenta in the freezer, my second son is 5 this July, and due to moving house, and then doing some pretty major earthworks, we have not yet grounded his placenta. Im thinking hell be old enough to be not only mildly curious, but probably completely grossed out by the whole thing. We were actually talking about it at the dinner table tonight, (good midwives children, talk about anything while they are eating) and my oldest who has just turned 7 commented so were going to put a body part in the garden cool!. Its going to go next to our lovely walnut tree eventually, which is 20 ft high, and will not be affected like a new plant, Im thinking. Tania Xx (who actually has 2 placentae in her freezer, but one is from a birth last week where the woman didnt want it, but wanted it to go to a good homeJ) -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 10/02/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 10/02/2006
[ozmidwifery] placental gardening
thanks everyone for your great advice- I also had a few laughs, I didn't expect such a great response. I feel totally inspired to go and plant it now, and I'm sure I'll make it thrive! I suppose in a months time the weather will be good for planting also. I think I might get the mothers love rosebush- my mum actually said before I had my baby she was going to get us one (she must have forgotton??) Do you Yahoo!? Never miss an Instant Message - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: diabetes incipidus and breastfeeding
Hi Barbara, This is a very interesting question. I have not come across diabetes insipidus in a breast feeding woman before. I have looked up my books and surfed the internet. It will be a very delicate balancing act, as diabetes insipidus is a lack of anti-diuretic hormone (nothing to do with diabetes mellitus, except you pee a lot), resulting in problems with fluid balance. Fluid balance obviously is important for milk production (and many other things).It appears safe to take vasopressin and breast feed. Vasopressin (antidiurectic hormone) is apparently similar in some ways to oxytocin, with each sometimes producing effects on the other. I think it may be helpful to contact the Lactation Resource Centre to get some quality information to guide the mother and her care givers. There may be a small fee. I will paste their link into this email. Good luck. I would be very interested to hear what information you find. http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/default.htm Regards, Nicole IBCLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barbara H Stokes Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:26 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: diabetes incipidus and breastfeeding Dear Lactational Consultants, Can anyone help with lactation establishment for Gravida 2 Para 1 coming in for induction tomorrow. Has diabetes incipidus, did not lactate last time, takes demopressin nasal sprays? Thankyou, Barbara Stokes, Parkes -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Ooh Yes, Tania, how nice different fruit from the same tree! Just lovely. Sold! JC xx
Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI
Just for clarification. This FDA warning is for the new 4D color ultrasounds. There is no problem with having an ordinary ultrasound and getting a print. The warning is because they are new and basically they don't know if they are as safe as the traditional scan. Good article at http://www.southflorida.com/sfparenting/sfe-sfp-fetalimage,0,5283379.story rgds mike On 2/20/06, leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Source: http://www.medicinenet.com Health Tip: Avoid Needless Ultrasounds of Fetus (HealthDay News) -- The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has warned against taking a picture of a developing fetus merely as a keepsake. These images can show facial features, hair and even the developing baby's sex. But the FDA says while ultrasounds are generally safe, they can affect developing tissues and may cause a rise in fetal temperature. Also, prenatal images being marketed for non-medical reasons are often done by less-experienced personnel and may expose a fetus to a longer period of imaging than one performed by a medical technician. The FDA recommends that women limit ultrasounds to those done for medical reasons only. -- Deborah DiSesa Hirsch Copyright (c) 2006 ScoutNews LLC. All rights reserved. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nz My Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_Photographers New Photo site@ Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.com Lindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.com Life is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: diabetes incipidus and breastfeeding
Thankyou Nicole. Apologies for my spelling mistakes. I have membership to the lactation resource so will continue a search through them. I am off duty now, so if the induction works should see her on Thursday. Barbara (also IBCLC) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole Carver Sent: Monday, 20 February 2006 11:34 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: diabetes incipidus and breastfeeding Hi Barbara, This is a very interesting question. I have not come across diabetes insipidus in a breast feeding woman before. I have looked up my books and surfed the internet. It will be a very delicate balancing act, as diabetes insipidus is a lack of anti-diuretic hormone (nothing to do with diabetes mellitus, except you pee a lot), resulting in problems with fluid balance. Fluid balance obviously is important for milk production (and many other things).It appears safe to take vasopressin and breast feed. Vasopressin (antidiurectic hormone) is apparently similar in some ways to oxytocin, with each sometimes producing effects on the other. I think it may be helpful to contact the Lactation Resource Centre to get some quality information to guide the mother and her care givers. There may be a small fee. I will paste their link into this email. Good luck. I would be very interested to hear what information you find. http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/default.htm Regards, Nicole IBCLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barbara H Stokes Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:26 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: diabetes incipidus and breastfeeding Dear Lactational Consultants, Can anyone help with lactation establishment for Gravida 2 Para 1 coming in for induction tomorrow. Has diabetes incipidus, did not lactate last time, takes demopressin nasal sprays? Thankyou, Barbara Stokes, Parkes -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
grrr, didn't get your original email Vicky but I get the gist of the conversation. All 3 of our placentas went first into the freezer. 1st one was defrosted about 2 months after baby's birth (near Christmas) and planted with a 'Christmas' tree (confier type) that we'd received in honour of her birth from a local nursery.The tree is huge now 14 years later. It was planted directly in the ground with the tree with no thought given to composting first! 2nd one stayed in the freezer for numerous months and then was placed in compost bin and compost was used in spring veggie garden. Beautiful veggies and even though the veggie garden has been moved to another area, the area where the compost was originally used has a lush garden growing. 3rd one was put straight into a huge pot after being defrosted within a couple of weeks of birth with a largish plant and it did fine. We eventually planted the (now) tree in to the garden because it became too big for the pot. Your mother's love rose idea sounds beautiful :) You could put the placenta into the pot now with some decent potting mix so that it composts before you add the rose. Roses are fairly forgiving anyway. Justine, have you heard of a plumcot? Beautiful tasting fruit which is a graft of plum/apricot. Has the best of the plum and apricot taste. Should grow nicely in your area. Regards Jayne - Original Message - From: Vicky Gotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening thanks everyone for your great advice- I also had a few laughs, I didn't expect such a great response. I feel totally inspired to go and plant it now, and I'm sure I'll make it thrive! I suppose in a months time the weather will be good for planting also. I think I might get the mothers love rosebush- my mum actually said before I had my baby she was going to get us one (she must have forgotton??) Do you Yahoo!? Never miss an Instant Message - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI
Just for clarification. This FDA warning is for the new 4D color ultrasounds. There is no problem with having an ordinary ultrasound and getting a print. The warning is because they are new and basically they don't know if they are as safe as the traditional scan. Yes But who knows if traditional ultrasound is safe anyway. There have been no studies to prove safety. We also have no idea of emissions from machine to machine because they are not regulated. Why no studies? Well no commercial interest. I suspect this outburst is more about Drs loosing control to non-medicos cashing in on the 'entertainment ultrasound'. Bring the rellies and the popcorn... I weep for the future JC -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI
Yes...brings to mind the reports of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes with their own personal ultrasound machine. - Original Message - From: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OzMid List ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI Just for clarification. This FDA warning is for the new 4D color ultrasounds. There is no problem with having an ordinary ultrasound and getting a print. The warning is because they are new and basically they don't know if they are as safe as the traditional scan. Yes But who knows if traditional ultrasound is safe anyway. There have been no studies to prove safety. We also have no idea of emissions from machine to machine because they are not regulated. Why no studies? Well no commercial interest. I suspect this outburst is more about Drs loosing control to non-medicos cashing in on the 'entertainment ultrasound'. Bring the rellies and the popcorn... I weep for the future JC -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Online meeting places for Australian Doulas / Birth Attendants
Hey all, I hope this post is appropriate! I love reading your discussions, however I do feel out of place not being a midwife and am keen to discuss some issues which I dont think will be of interest to some of you, like the ones over the last few days!!! Just wanted to send out an email to let everyone know about the Australian Doulas email list, as I know there are some doulas and birth attendants amongst us. I love chatting with other Doulas / Birth Attendants but there doesnt seem to be something busy enough about the place. If you know any doulas or birth attendants or are one yourself, you can join the Australian Doulas mailing list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Australian-doulas/ - hopefully we can get some serious conversations going, rather than one email every six months or so! Come on guys, lets get together and chat about birth!!! Please join and introduce yourselves. Please feel free to pass on and circulate to others I didnt start Australian Doulas at all; I am just a Birth Attendant dying to have a place on the web to chat to other doulas and birth attendants. I am also going to start a section in my forums for us to chat, women to ask us questions etc so keep an eye on www.bellybelly.com.au/forums and I will set it up this evening down the bottom of the forums be sure to be registered and get chatting please I feel all alone here!!! Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support
