Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia
Hi Janet, In Ina May Gaskin's latest book she has their stats for pre-eclampsia. just off the top of my head I think it was something like 0.2%. She believed this was largely due to the healthy diet of the women, many of them vegans. I think it's facinating and since then have taken more notice of PE and diet and there does seem to be a link. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Janet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, 27 December, 2006 5:19:51 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia Lea said: Even though they are referring to new ways of treating with drugs, I think both these articles actually point to nutrition having a huge effect. If they are finding that Evidence suggests that the disorder is triggered when the fetus is not able to absorb sufficient amounts of oxygen from the placental blood supply... then what is it that would enable better ability to absorb oxygen from the placental blood supply?...good nutrition - which allows a healthy placenta to develop. So Dr Tom Brewer's idea that pre-eclampsia can be avoided by excellent nutrition during pregnancy still holds true as we find out more and more about the condition from studies. Well that's what I think but fans of this doctor stuff keep telling me that all it proves is that nutrition is absolutely nothing to do with PE and Brewer is a crank. I don't see many women whose surgeons tell them how to eat to avoid PE but I see a lot of midwifery input in this. Very interesting and ta for the articles!! J Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia
Interestingly Lea and Janet, women who are relaxed, given plenty of opportunity to talk about their lives and what pregnancy and parenting mean to them as part of relationship based midwifery care also seem to avoid pre eclampsia - it could be nutritionally mediated as well, as we spend time talking to women about what they eat. Out of all the women we have looked after through Belmont, we have had 2 women out of the 280 who have given birth so far through the service, who got pre eclampsia in pregnancy and one whose BP went up after giving birth. Several women whose legs have been oedematous, (they had no signs of pre eclampsia), had great results from lymphatic drainage aka reflexology. It is easy to see the huge difference after the massage/reflexology session and the women sure feel different in themselves. Sitting down, massaging women's feet gives a great opportunity to talk about what is going on in their lives and it is ALWAYS a lot. Once the tension dissipates, so does the oedema. all fascinating. only anecdotal :-) but fascinating (dis)stress and tension have a lot to answer for I reckon. warmly, Carolyn - Original Message - From: Lea Mason To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia Hi Janet, I haven't heard of this man's work but here are a couple of interesting articles about pre-eclampsia if you are looking into current studies by doctors. Even though they are referring to new ways of treating with drugs, I think both these articles actually point to nutrition having a huge effect. If they are finding that Evidence suggests that the disorder is triggered when the fetus is not able to absorb sufficient amounts of oxygen from the placental blood supply... then what is it that would enable better ability to absorb oxygen from the placental blood supply?...good nutrition - which allows a healthy placenta to develop. So Dr Tom Brewer's idea that pre-eclampsia can be avoided by excellent nutrition during pregnancy still holds true as we find out more and more about the condition from studies. http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060724fa_fact http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/1123568331.html?dids=1123568331:1123568331FMT=ABSFMTS=ABS:FTtype=currentdate=Sep+7%2C+2006author=Thomas+H.+Maugh+IIpub=Los+Angeles+Timesedition=startpage=A.19desc=The+Nation (I've emailed you privately the full text of this one) Cheers, Lea Mason, AAHCC Certified Bradley® Natural Childbirth Educator Labour Support Professional http://www.birthsteps.com.au - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:07 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia Hi, I'm looking online for this man's work and can't find anything much but a mention at the US patent office. This makes me suspicious but anyway... Apparently the thrust of his work is that nutrition has no effect on pre-eclampsia, something with which I cannot agree. But I can't find his work to read! The preeclampsiafoundation.org people like him but their site is solely surgeon-driven and that too I don't like! Anyone help me? Very grateful : ) J For home birth information go to: Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums. http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia
Hi Janet, I haven't heard of this man's work but here are a couple of interesting articles about pre-eclampsia if you are looking into current studies by doctors. Even though they are referring to new ways of treating with drugs, I think both these articles actually point to nutrition having a huge effect. If they are finding that Evidence suggests that the disorder is triggered when the fetus is not able to absorb sufficient amounts of oxygen from the placental blood supply... then what is it that would enable better ability to absorb oxygen from the placental blood supply?...good nutrition - which allows a healthy placenta to develop. So Dr Tom Brewer's idea that pre-eclampsia can be avoided by excellent nutrition during pregnancy still holds true as we find out more and more about the condition from studies. http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060724fa_fact http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/1123568331.html?dids=1123568331:1123568331FMT=ABSFMTS=ABS:FTtype=currentdate=Sep+7%2C+2006author=Thomas+H.+Maugh+IIpub=Los+Angeles+Timesedition=startpage=A.19desc=The+Nation (I've emailed you privately the full text of this one) Cheers, Lea Mason, AAHCC Certified Bradley® Natural Childbirth Educator Labour Support Professional http://www.birthsteps.com.au - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:07 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia Hi, I'm looking online for this man's work and can't find anything much but a mention at the US patent office. This makes me suspicious but anyway... Apparently the thrust of his work is that nutrition has no effect on pre-eclampsia, something with which I cannot agree. But I can't find his work to read! The preeclampsiafoundation.org people like him but their site is solely surgeon-driven and that too I don't like! Anyone help me? Very grateful : ) J For home birth information go to: Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums. http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia
Lea said: Even though they are referring to new ways of treating with drugs, I think both these articles actually point to nutrition having a huge effect. If they are finding that Evidence suggests that the disorder is triggered when the fetus is not able to absorb sufficient amounts of oxygen from the placental blood supply... then what is it that would enable better ability to absorb oxygen from the placental blood supply?...good nutrition - which allows a healthy placenta to develop. So Dr Tom Brewer's idea that pre-eclampsia can be avoided by excellent nutrition during pregnancy still holds true as we find out more and more about the condition from studies. Well that's what I think but fans of this doctor stuff keep telling me that all it proves is that nutrition is absolutely nothing to do with PE and Brewer is a crank. I don't see many women whose surgeons tell them how to eat to avoid PE but I see a lot of midwifery input in this. Very interesting and ta for the articles!! J
[ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia
Hi, I'm looking online for this man's work and can't find anything much but a mention at the US patent office. This makes me suspicious but anyway... Apparently the thrust of his work is that nutrition has no effect on pre-eclampsia, something with which I cannot agree. But I can't find his work to read! The preeclampsiafoundation.org people like him but their site is solely surgeon-driven and that too I don't like! Anyone help me? Very grateful : ) J For home birth information go to: Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums. http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
