[ozmidwifery] Fw: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site Feedback

2006-11-09 Thread Helen and Graham



This is the reply I got after sending a letter 
of complaint to BubHub re advertising bottles on their website.
I haven't investigated whether bottle 
advertising per se is against the WHO Code but I think they are splitting hairs 
on this and if they are truly pro breastfeeding as recommended by WHO they 
wouldn't be advertising them anyway!

Helen

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To: Helen Cahill @ Bub Hub Community 
Forums 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site 
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Hi Helen

As you are probably aware, our site is endorsed 
by the ACMI and the breastfeeding pages are endorsed by ALCA. We have an 
agreement with both of those organisations that we will voluntarily abide by the 
WHO code. We have also agreed with both of those organisations that we 
will have NO advertising for formula (including toddler follow-on formula) on 
the site, or ads for pacifiers. However, it has been agreed that we may 
include ads for bottles on the site.

These discussion have also been continued with 
the Maternity Coalition who have agreed with this approach.

We will not include ads for any organisation that 
breaches the WHO code, however, as far as we are aware, Dr Browns do not breach 
the WHO code. If they do, we will be more than happy to remove any future 
advertising by this organisation from our site. Please note that the Dr 
Browns ad was due to run for one week only and this is now over. The 
offending ad has been removed from our site already.

with kind regards
Hilary

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  Helen Cahill @ Bub Hub Community 
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  Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:14 
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  Us Form - Site Feedback
  The following message was sent to you via the Bub Hub Community 
  Forums Contact Us form by Helen 
  Cahill.Very disappointing to 
  see you advertising a type of bottle teat right next to your section 
  advertising Pinky's breastfeeding forum. It is well known that breast is 
  best so advertising bottle feeding parafenalia goes against the principles of 
  encouraging 
  breastfeeding.Referring Page: 
  http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=41867IP 
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[ozmidwifery] Fw: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site Feedback

2006-11-09 Thread Helen and Graham




- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Helen and Graham 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Bub Hub Community Forums Contact Us Form - Site 
Feedback

OK - but itstates thatunethical 
marketing of bottles and teats would be inbreach of the Code- not 
that bottles and teats can't be advertised at all. It's advertising 
promoting bottlefeeding over breastfeeding that breaches the code - but the Dr 
Brown's ad doesn't promote bottlefeeding over breastfeeding. It's says 
that if you need to use a bottle, they (Dr Brown's) believe that their's is a 
good bottle to use.

We are aware of the code - ALCA provided us with 
a newsletter article on just this topic a couple of months ago. And we 
have discussed the advertising of bottles on the site with ALCA - as far as we 
are aware we are permitted to advertise bottles on the site providing the 
company concerned doesn't breach the WHO code. 

We are more than happy to refuse advertising from 
Dr Browns if anybody can substantiate to me exactly how Dr Browns breach the WHO 
code.

As stated previously, as far as we are aware, we 
are the only mainstream parenting site in Australia that strictly monitors our 
advertising in this regard and will not accept advertising regarding formula or 
pacifiers (who will see Nestle follow-on formula and S26 ads, for example, 
regularly on other sites).

We are keen to clarify this matter as soon as 
possible and I have just got off the telephone to the ACMI.We are 
working with them to work through this.

with kind regards
Hilary

Hilary LauderWebsite 
Managerph: 07 
3862 4491Mob: 0404 898 832Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: www.bubhub.com.auThis email and any accompanying attachments is intended 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Helen and Graham 
  To: ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:21 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Bub Hub Community Forums 
  Contact Us Form - Site Feedback
  
  
  
  'We will not include 
  ads for any organisation that breaches the WHO code, however, as far as we are 
  aware, Dr Browns do not breach the WHO code. If they do, we will be more 
  than happy to remove any future advertising by this organisation from our 
  site."
  
  The WHO Codequite plainly states it does 
  breach the code - see link to "scope of the Code"
  
  Helen
  www.who.int/nutrition/publications/code_english.pdf
  
Article 2. 
Scope of the Code
The Code applies to the 
marketing, and practices related thereto, of the following products: 
breastmilk substitutes, including infant formula; other milk products, foods 
and beverages, including bottle-fed complementary foods, when marketed or 
otherwise represented to be suitable, with or without modification, for use 
as a partial or total replacement of breast-milk; feeding bottles and teats. 
It also applies to their quality and availability, and to information 
concerning their use.
  
Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Helen Cahill @ Bub Hub Community 
Forums 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:42 
AM
Subject: Re: Bub Hub Community Forums 
Contact Us Form - Site Feedback


Hi Helen

As you are probably aware, our site is 
endorsed by the ACMI and the breastfeeding pages are endorsed by ALCA. 
We have an agreement with both of those organisations that we will 
voluntarily abide by the WHO code. We have also agreed with both of 
those organisations that we will have NO advertising for formula (including 
toddler follow-on formula) on the site, or ads for pacifiers. However, 
it has been agreed that we may include ads for bottles on the 
site.

These discussion have also been continued 
with the Maternity Coalition who have agreed with this 
approach.

We will not include ads for any organisation 
that breaches the WHO code, however, as far as we are aware, Dr Browns do 
not breach the WHO code. If they do, we will be more than happy to 
remove any future advertising by this organisation from our site. 
Please note that the Dr Browns ad was due to run for one week only and this 
is now over. The offending ad has been removed from our site 
already.

with kind regards
Hilary

Hilary LauderWebsite 
Managerph: 07 3862 4491Mob: 
0404 898 832Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: www.bubhub.com.auThis email and any accompanying attachments is 
intended for the use of the named individual or entity and may contain 
confidential and privileged information. Any dissemination, distribution or 
copying by anyone