RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
I found this on the internet (a herbal tea company website, specialising in pregnancy) - which might be of interest; I have passed it onto the woman as well: Alfalfa, with its deep root system, contains many essential nutrients including trace minerals, chlorophyll and vitamin K, a nutrient necessary for blood clotting. Many midwives advise drinking mild tasting alfalfa tea or taking alfalfa tablets during the last trimester of pregnancy to decrease postpartum bleeding or chance of hemorrhaging. Alfalfa also increases breast milk, as alfalfa hay is fed daily to milking goats and other dairy animals. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Honey Acharya Sent: Monday, 3 April 2006 10:03 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Its all about what she wants and is prepared to do to get it. very true I say this a lot lately! - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S the things is that if her babies are that big imagine how big her placentas are, probably the size of a dinner plate instead of a bread and butter plate. It makes sense that a large placental site will bleed more than a little one but its whether the woman is symptomatic or not that matters. If she does not cope with the amount of blood she lost then it is an issue and she needs to look at alternatives rather than go inyo it and just let the same thing happen again like the proverbial ostrich. If it is just that the doctor is uncomfortable with the blood loss but she is physiologically fine then find another care giver and save him the grey hair. Its all about what she wants and is prepared to do to get it. Andrea Quanchi On 03/04/2006, at 10:14 AM, Robyn Dempsey wrote: I feel that if this woman has had such large babies, what a wonderful pelvis she must have! Good on her! Rather than promoting a c-section, perhaps look at her diet...does she just grow big bubs, or does she over indulge in the sugary foods? If PPH is the worry, perhaps a discussion around a managed 3rd stage, or syntocinon if there are any signs of excessive bleeding. I've had many women with large babies, doesn't mean they will have a PPH, simply that they grow bigger bubs, and have a pelvis to fit them thru. Cheers Robyn D - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: 01 April, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
We have just recently had 2 women have hysterectomy's following LCSC for control of bleeding. In both cases the lower segment was very thin and suturing was almost impossible. So LSCS do not necessarily save women from PPH and it is known that women who have LSCS have a greater blood loss anyway. Initially anyway. Katy. - Original Message - From: Melissa Singer To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Maybe the thinking is should she have another large PPH there is already direct access to the uterus to clamp hemorrhaging vessels? It seems Obs are always suggesting a C/S for one reason or another. I think it is OK for her to say no, there are protocols and procedures to follow for anyone with high risk of PPH and usually if they are followed and she is birthing in a place where there is 24hr theatre immediately available it should be reasonable. But that said I don't know how large her previous pph's were, if she was compromise etc Melissa - Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Women also have PPH's at caesarean. Not sure if c/s would be safer. Perhaps she should see another ob for a second opinion. Nicole. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:27 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support __ NOD32 1.1467 (20060402) Information __This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
I feel that if this woman has had such large babies, what a wonderful pelvis she must have! Good on her! Rather than promoting a c-section, perhaps look at her diet...does she just grow big bubs, or does she over indulge in the sugary foods? If PPH is the worry, perhaps a discussion around a managed 3rd stage, or syntocinon if there are any signs of excessive bleeding. I've had many women with large babies, doesn't mean they will have a PPH, simply that they grow bigger bubs, and have a pelvis to fit them thru. Cheers Robyn D - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: 01 April, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
the things is that if her babies are that big imagine how big her placentas are, probably the size of a dinner plate instead of a bread and butter plate. It makes sense that a large placental site will bleed more than a little one but its whether the woman is symptomatic or not that matters. If she does not cope with the amount of blood she lost then it is an issue and she needs to look at alternatives rather than go inyo it and just let the same thing happen again like the proverbial ostrich. If it is just that the doctor is uncomfortable with the blood loss but she is physiologically fine then find another care giver and save him the grey hair.Its all about what she wants and is prepared to do to get it. Andrea QuanchiOn 03/04/2006, at 10:14 AM, Robyn Dempsey wrote:I feel that if this woman has had such large babies, what a wonderful pelvis she must have! Good on her! Rather than promoting a c-section, perhaps look at her diet...does she just grow big bubs, or does she over indulge in the sugary foods? If PPH is the worry, perhaps a discussion around a managed 3rd stage, or syntocinon if there are any signs of excessive bleeding. I've had many women with large babies, doesn't mean they will have a PPH, simply that they grow bigger bubs, and have a pelvis to fit them thru. CheersRobyn D- Original Message -From: Kelly @ BellyBellyTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: 01 April, 2006 4:26 PMSubject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/SHello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies – 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth – is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH?Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
"Its all about what she wants and is prepared to do to get it." very true I say this a lot lately! - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S the things is that if her babies are that big imagine how big her placentas are, probably the size of a dinner plate instead of a bread and butter plate. It makes sense that a large placental site will bleed more than a little one but its whether the woman is symptomatic or not that matters. If she does not cope with the amount of blood she lost then it is an issue and she needs to look at alternatives rather than go inyo it and just let the same thing happen again like the proverbial ostrich. If it is just that the doctor is uncomfortable with the blood loss but she is physiologically fine then find another care giver and save him the grey hair. Its all about what she wants and is prepared to do to get it. Andrea Quanchi On 03/04/2006, at 10:14 AM, Robyn Dempsey wrote: I feel that if this woman has had such large babies, what a wonderful pelvis she must have! Good on her! Rather than promoting a c-section, perhaps look at her diet...does she just grow big bubs, or does she over indulge in the sugary foods? If PPH is the worry, perhaps a discussion around a managed 3rd stage, or syntocinon if there are any signs of excessive bleeding. I've had many women with large babies, doesn't mean they will have a PPH, simply that they grow bigger bubs, and have a pelvis to fit them thru. Cheers Robyn D - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: 01 April, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies – 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth – is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
Maybe the thinking is should she have another large PPH there is already direct access to the uterus to clamp hemorrhaging vessels? It seems Obs are always suggesting a C/S for one reason or another. I think it is OK for her to say no, there are protocols and procedures to follow for anyone with high risk of PPH and usually if they are followed and she is birthing in a place where there is 24hr theatre immediately available it should be reasonable. But that said I don't know how large her previous pph's were, if she was compromise etc Melissa - Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Women also have PPH's at caesarean. Not sure if c/s would be safer. Perhaps she should see another ob for a second opinion. Nicole. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:27 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
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Kelly @ BellyBelly wrote: Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support She would be better advised to follow a gestational diabetic diet. Gloria in Vancouver, BC
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Dear Kelly Re PPH: It would be interesting to find out if this woman was induced or had active management in last 2 births. Her body may not repond well to the syntoIf she can get onto a good homeopath 'Ustilago Maidus' is excellent for prevention of pph but must havedosage determinedby qualified homeopath. Have seen this used very effectively in a small number of women for abt 10 yrs wherewoman has hada previous pph and none with remedy. It is not one of the regular homeopathics used. Newtons Pharmacy in Sydney stock it and will do postal orders if her homeopath does not stock it. Re ? G.D Diet sounds good as Gloria has suggested and if she has G.D and is doing her BSL's and they are high . the Australian Bush Flower essence Peach Flowered Tea Tree is excellent. I have seen a number of women over the years who are on insulin (sliding scale used to determine dose) for G.D use the essence and within 2-5 days have reduced BSL's and have not required andmore insulin for the remainder of the pregnancy. It could be this womanis tall and a little longer herself and hasbig bubs one woman I know all her bubs are 11-13 pounds and she has never had GD, always normal vaginal births and peri intact everytime. Kind Regards Sally-Anne - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
Thanks Sally-Anne, I will pose this to her and let you know J Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Sally-Anne Brown Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2006 9:00 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Dear Kelly Re PPH: It would be interesting to find out if this woman was induced or had active management in last 2 births. Her body may not repond well to the syntoIf she can get onto a good homeopath 'Ustilago Maidus' is excellent for prevention of pph but must havedosage determinedby qualified homeopath. Have seen this used very effectively in a small number of women for abt 10 yrs wherewoman has hada previous pph and none with remedy. It is not one of the regular homeopathics used. Newtons Pharmacy in Sydney stock it and will do postal orders if her homeopath does not stock it. Re ? G.D Diet sounds good as Gloria has suggested and if she has G.D and is doing her BSL's and they are high . the Australian Bush Flower essence Peach Flowered Tea Tree is excellent. I have seen a number of women over the years who are on insulin (sliding scale used to determine dose) for G.D use the essence and within 2-5 days have reduced BSL's and have not required andmore insulin for the remainder of the pregnancy. It could be this womanis tall and a little longer herself and hasbig bubs one woman I know all her bubs are 11-13 pounds and she has never had GD, always normal vaginal births and peri intact everytime. Kind Regards Sally-Anne - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006
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I have heard that a standard 100mls is lost with every c/s. Howbig was this womenspph.Its strange (or typical) howat a vaginal birth a women can loose 600mls and thats a considered pph but at a c/s 100mls is not. Lyn - Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Women also have PPH's at caesarean. Not sure if c/s would be safer. Perhaps she should see another ob for a second opinion. Nicole. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:27 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
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Who is doing the caesars to get such a huge loss? The usual blood loss for uncomplicated c/s where I work is 3-400mls, I think that is pretty well par for the course. Monica - Original Message - From: lyn lyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S I have heard that a standard 100mls is lost with every c/s. How big was this womens pph. Its strange (or typical) how at a vaginal birth a women can loose 600mls and thats a considered pph but at a c/s 100mls is not. Lyn - Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Women also have PPH's at caesarean. Not sure if c/s would be safer. Perhaps she should see another ob for a second opinion. Nicole. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:27 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies - 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth - is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
I think it's because allthe liquor is measured in with the blood loss in the suction bottles at a C/S. It totals 1000mls but 50% of it is probably not blood, that isjust the ETBL documented as total fluid loss. It's difficult/impossible to differentiate theblood from liquor/body fluidso theyall get totalled in. The women aren't all symptomatic of a PPh post C/S are they ? Then you'd worry. With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Mh To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Who is doing the caesars to get such a huge loss? The usual blood loss for uncomplicated c/s where I work is 3-400mls, I think that is pretty well par for the course.Monica- Original Message - From: "lyn lyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:28 AMSubject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/SI have heard that a standard 100mls is lost with every c/s. How big was this womens pph. Its strange (or typical) how at a vaginal birth a women can loose 600mls and thats a considered pph but at a c/s 100mls is not.Lyn- Original Message - From: Nicole CarverTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 6:44 PMSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/SWomen also have PPH's at caesarean. Not sure if c/s would be safer. Perhaps she should see another ob for a second opinion.Nicole. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:27 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies - 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth - is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
There is liquor mixed in the blood at a vaginal birth too. Estimating/weighing blood loss is always going to be inaccurate. I have never seen anyone weight the abdominal packs after a C/S Is this usual practice? mm From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2006 2:46 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S I think it's because allthe liquor is measured in with the blood loss in the suction bottles at a C/S. It totals 1000mls but 50% of it is probably not blood, that isjust the ETBL documented as total fluid loss. It's difficult/impossible to differentiate theblood from liquor/body fluidso theyall get totalled in. The women aren't all symptomatic of a PPh post C/S are they ? Then you'd worry. With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Mh To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Who is doing the caesars to get such a huge loss? The usual blood loss for uncomplicated c/s where I work is 3-400mls, I think that is pretty well par for the course. Monica - Original Message - From: lyn lyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S I have heard that a standard 100mls is lost with every c/s. How big was this womens pph. Its strange (or typical) how at a vaginal birth a women can loose 600mls and thats a considered pph but at a c/s 100mls is not. Lyn - Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Women also have PPH's at caesarean. Not sure if c/s would be safer. Perhaps she should see another ob for a second opinion. Nicole. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:27 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies - 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth - is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
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She CAN always say no. How bad were the other PPH's? Enough to really comprimise her? She is probably at risk of another but it might still happen if she has a CS. Cheers Judy --- Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies - 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth - is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support On yahoo!7 Avatars: Dress up like your Dancing with the Stars favourites! http://au.avatars.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Title: Message In Effective Care there is some information about how active management can actually contribute to PPH. 2001 edition. It could be something she would like to consider. I think her biggest battles will lie in the VBA2C and big babies. There have been two recent studies which support vbac in both instancesI will see if I can find them. Jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:57 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies – 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth – is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 3/30/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 3/30/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S
Women also have PPH's at caesarean. Not sure if c/s would be safer. Perhaps she should see another ob for a second opinion. Nicole. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:27 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] PPH C/S Hello all, A woman on my forums has had two normal births of big babies 11lb3oz and 13lb5oz and had a PPH with both. Her Ob is now recommending a c/s with her third bub and wants a scan at 34 weeks as a deciding factor of this. She wants a normal birth is it okay just for her to say no without too much risk with PPH? Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
