Re: [ozmidwifery] re: goodbyes
well said Tania, I have been trying to think about all of this and what to say but am a bit fragile due to a difficult birth this week...talk about the politics and consequences of blood gases int hospital system for a baby transferred in! I would have Lisa's straight talking and advocacy in my corner any time...I do think it is a skill that we have to acknowledge some people are better at than others...I am not great on the in your face stuff, I wish I was, I am not good at confrontation and I really wish i was... I do what I believe I need to do and refuse to do what I don't think is needed but i take the stress with me and I find the fights eat up my energy which is definitely flagging Lisa reminds me that we need to support and embrace and argue and challenge - not to be afraid of our individuality or difference, I wish I had her energy and ability to speak out regardless of how we would see things I am a glass half full kinda person, I try to be anyway, if unsure assume the positive aspect rather than negative so that what is a debate does not get seen as personal, I often see people getting upset and am surprised because I didn't read it that way maybe we are so used to being out on a limb alone and always defending ourselves we struggle to see that difference in debate or practice or context is not a personal attack? Belinda Tania Smallwood wrote: I’d like to add to the current conversation about cord blood gases… I’ve been lurking just lately, as many of you know, I’ve had to make a difficult decision to stop practicing independently due to family commitments…and so, when the bloke I’m married to is actually here, I don’t spend as much time as I used to reading and contributing to Ozmid. Just yesterday I had a few moments to catch up, and when I read the thread on blood gases, I was sure that I’d missed some mails (perhaps I have, there seems to be a few problems with mails doubling up, or getting temporarily lost in cyberspace!). Halfway through the mails, it seemed to go from a lively and informative debate, (something that’s been missing from this list for a while IMHO) to a slinging match, with people getting upset that others are honest and up front about their views. Can I just say that I know Lisa B, and if there is a midwife who has walked in the shoes of every midwife torn between hospital policy, threat of losing her job, and what’s best for the women, it’s Lisa. She’s worked in a position of authority for over 2 years at one of Adelaide’s esteemed private hospitals, and I’m sure the conversations we’ve had about what she had to fight for there are only a small portion of what actually goes on. She’s well aware as we all are, of what a battle it can be in the system, and along with me, and all the IPM’s I know, has utter respect and admiration for those attempting to change things one birth at a time. I also see Lisa as a straight talker, and sometimes even I find it confronting to hear what she has to say, and I know her better than most on this list! But that doesn’t mean that I pack my bags and go away, I may not agree, or I might think hey, that’s a bit blunt, but I also think that she’s made me think about things that I’d otherwise just go along merrily with, and not look at in a truly critical light. I actually think that along with */everyone/* on this list, she has oodles of knowledge and skill, and heaps to contribute. I know I will never be a strong enough midwife to do what most of you do, go in every day and beat my head against that wall and hope to Goddess that a woman gets away with a good birth. But please, don’t stop contributing because it’s hard. Being a midwife is a hard road, no matter where you decide to direct your skill and passion. We’re a downtrodden minority group, with ideals about women that are not shared by most of the people in power. Refusing to keep the dialogue going is never going to be productive, all it will do is stagnate us where we are, and I think we all want midwifery and provision of evidence based maternity services to improve and become stronger in this country. That’s all from me for now, Tania x -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] re: goodbyes
Hugs to you Belinda, call me anytime, you know where I am :) and I make a mean coffee... Tania x -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 16 October 2006 9:29 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: goodbyes well said Tania, I have been trying to think about all of this and what to say but am a bit fragile due to a difficult birth this week...talk about the politics and consequences of blood gases int hospital system for a baby transferred in! I would have Lisa's straight talking and advocacy in my corner any time...I do think it is a skill that we have to acknowledge some people are better at than others...I am not great on the in your face stuff, I wish I was, I am not good at confrontation and I really wish i was... I do what I believe I need to do and refuse to do what I don't think is needed but i take the stress with me and I find the fights eat up my energy which is definitely flagging Lisa reminds me that we need to support and embrace and argue and challenge - not to be afraid of our individuality or difference, I wish I had her energy and ability to speak out regardless of how we would see things I am a glass half full kinda person, I try to be anyway, if unsure assume the positive aspect rather than negative so that what is a debate does not get seen as personal, I often see people getting upset and am surprised because I didn't read it that way maybe we are so used to being out on a limb alone and always defending ourselves we struggle to see that difference in debate or practice or context is not a personal attack? Belinda Tania Smallwood wrote: I’d like to add to the current conversation about cord blood gases… I’ve been lurking just lately, as many of you know, I’ve had to make a difficult decision to stop practicing independently due to family commitments…and so, when the bloke I’m married to is actually here, I don’t spend as much time as I used to reading and contributing to Ozmid. Just yesterday I had a few moments to catch up, and when I read the thread on blood gases, I was sure that I’d missed some mails (perhaps I have, there seems to be a few problems with mails doubling up, or getting temporarily lost in cyberspace!). Halfway through the mails, it seemed to go from a lively and informative debate, (something that’s been missing from this list for a while IMHO) to a slinging match, with people getting upset that others are honest and up front about their views. Can I just say that I know Lisa B, and if there is a midwife who has walked in the shoes of every midwife torn between hospital policy, threat of losing her job, and what’s best for the women, it’s Lisa. She’s worked in a position of authority for over 2 years at one of Adelaide’s esteemed private hospitals, and I’m sure the conversations we’ve had about what she had to fight for there are only a small portion of what actually goes on. She’s well aware as we all are, of what a battle it can be in the system, and along with me, and all the IPM’s I know, has utter respect and admiration for those attempting to change things one birth at a time. I also see Lisa as a straight talker, and sometimes even I find it confronting to hear what she has to say, and I know her better than most on this list! But that doesn’t mean that I pack my bags and go away, I may not agree, or I might think hey, that’s a bit blunt, but I also think that she’s made me think about things that I’d otherwise just go along merrily with, and not look at in a truly critical light. I actually think that along with */everyone/* on this list, she has oodles of knowledge and skill, and heaps to contribute. I know I will never be a strong enough midwife to do what most of you do, go in every day and beat my head against that wall and hope to Goddess that a woman gets away with a good birth. But please, don’t stop contributing because it’s hard. Being a midwife is a hard road, no matter where you decide to direct your skill and passion. We’re a downtrodden minority group, with ideals about women that are not shared by most of the people in power. Refusing to keep the dialogue going is never going to be productive, all it will do is stagnate us where we are, and I think we all want midwifery and provision of evidence based maternity services to improve and become stronger in this country. That’s all from me for now, Tania x -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] re: goodbyes
Title: Message Tania, The easiest way to avoid conflict is to walk away. The bravest and strongest battle everyday, unfortunately people often don't see these battles and nobody pins a medal on their chest! Unfortunately, I personally feel this, those in management positions are put there by others to keep the waters still and they do generally turn their cheeks the other way in conflict. Midwives need to be supportive of each other, respect individuality and differing views and just keep moving forward in the hope one day we will all be working in an environment that supports our work. In the hope your daughter, grand daughter will have birth space respected.In achieving our goals don't forget family, they are important for grounding us and providing the shoulders we cry on. Sorry about you having to make that choice Tania but keep your dream. Cheers Barb -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania SmallwoodSent: Sunday, 15 October 2006 10:52 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] re: goodbyes Id like to add to the current conversation about cord blood gases Ive been lurking just lately, as many of you know, Ive had to make a difficult decision to stop practicing independently due to family commitmentsand so, when the bloke Im married to is actually here, I dont spend as much time as I used to reading and contributing to Ozmid. Just yesterday I had a few moments to catch up, and when I read the thread on blood gases, I was sure that Id missed some mails (perhaps I have, there seems to be a few problems with mails doubling up, or getting temporarily lost in cyberspace!). Halfway through the mails, it seemed to go from a lively and informative debate, (something thats been missing from this list for a while IMHO) to a slinging match, with people getting upset that others are honest and up front about their views. Can I just say that I know Lisa B, and if there is a midwife who has walked in the shoes of every midwife torn between hospital policy, threat of losing her job, and whats best for the women, its Lisa. Shes worked in a position of authority for over 2 years at one of Adelaides esteemed private hospitals, and Im sure the conversations weve had about what she had to fight for there are only a small portion of what actually goes on. Shes well aware as we all are, of what a battle it can be in the system, and along with me, and all the IPMs I know, has utter respect and admiration for those attempting to change things one birth at a time. I also see Lisa as a straight talker, and sometimes even I find it confronting to hear what she has to say, and I know her better than most on this list! But that doesnt mean that I pack my bags and go away, I may not agree, or I might think hey, thats a bit blunt, but I also think that shes made me think about things that Id otherwise just go along merrily with, and not look at in a truly critical light. I actually think that along with everyone on this list, she has oodles of knowledge and skill, and heaps to contribute. I know I will never be a strong enough midwife to do what most of you do, go in every day and beat my head against that wall and hope to Goddess that a woman gets away with a good birth. But please, dont stop contributing because its hard. Being a midwife is a hard road, no matter where you decide to direct your skill and passion. Were a downtrodden minority group, with ideals about women that are not shared by most of the people in power. Refusing to keep the dialogue going is never going to be productive, all it will do is stagnate us where we are, and I think we all want midwifery and provision of evidence based maternity services to improve and become stronger in this country. Thats all from me for now, Tania x --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006
[ozmidwifery] re: goodbyes
Id like to add to the current conversation about cord blood gases Ive been lurking just lately, as many of you know, Ive had to make a difficult decision to stop practicing independently due to family commitmentsand so, when the bloke Im married to is actually here, I dont spend as much time as I used to reading and contributing to Ozmid. Just yesterday I had a few moments to catch up, and when I read the thread on blood gases, I was sure that Id missed some mails (perhaps I have, there seems to be a few problems with mails doubling up, or getting temporarily lost in cyberspace!). Halfway through the mails, it seemed to go from a lively and informative debate, (something thats been missing from this list for a while IMHO) to a slinging match, with people getting upset that others are honest and up front about their views. Can I just say that I know Lisa B, and if there is a midwife who has walked in the shoes of every midwife torn between hospital policy, threat of losing her job, and whats best for the women, its Lisa. Shes worked in a position of authority for over 2 years at one of Adelaides esteemed private hospitals, and Im sure the conversations weve had about what she had to fight for there are only a small portion of what actually goes on. Shes well aware as we all are, of what a battle it can be in the system, and along with me, and all the IPMs I know, has utter respect and admiration for those attempting to change things one birth at a time. I also see Lisa as a straight talker, and sometimes even I find it confronting to hear what she has to say, and I know her better than most on this list! But that doesnt mean that I pack my bags and go away, I may not agree, or I might think hey, thats a bit blunt, but I also think that shes made me think about things that Id otherwise just go along merrily with, and not look at in a truly critical light. I actually think that along with everyone on this list, she has oodles of knowledge and skill, and heaps to contribute. I know I will never be a strong enough midwife to do what most of you do, go in every day and beat my head against that wall and hope to Goddess that a woman gets away with a good birth. But please, dont stop contributing because its hard. Being a midwife is a hard road, no matter where you decide to direct your skill and passion. Were a downtrodden minority group, with ideals about women that are not shared by most of the people in power. Refusing to keep the dialogue going is never going to be productive, all it will do is stagnate us where we are, and I think we all want midwifery and provision of evidence based maternity services to improve and become stronger in this country. Thats all from me for now, Tania x -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006
