Re: ARm was Re: [ozmidwifery] VE
I suggested that perhaps that was one of the hazards of her profession? Grr!!! Jo x HOMEBIRTH! HOMEBIRTH!HOMEBIRTH! Do you think there will come a day when the majority of women will stop putting up with medical professionals bullshit and start trusting themselves? I cringe when I hear some of the things that are said to women. Aren't bodily fluids a big part of labour? Isn't it about serving women not keeping yourself clean? I can understand the risks of infection, disease etc nowadaysso wear a eye shield, but don't stuff around with the natural process. I so believe that there is hardly ever a time, like probably 1%, when there is a real need for intervention and not necessarily medical. Sometimes all it takes is a change in position. I find it very unnerving that the traditional, natural methods are not taught to most aspiring midwives. It is scary, I don't know why women think they are so safe in hospitals??? (disclaimer: this comment is about hospitals and midwifery training in general, I am sure there are some amazing midwives in hospitals that are really with women and I am sure there are aspiring midwives that take it on themselves to learn from the wise ways of women.) Love Abby ~ who is a little shocked about some midwives opinions towards unnatural interventions. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: ARm was Re: [ozmidwifery] VE
Abby, AROM is a 'tool' of active management and like many other obstetric interventions it has been used as a normal practice by o mnay. I am not sure why it would be used as a Midwife tool but as I am not one (a midwife) I ont want to make a blanket statement. I agree that your list o things an AROM can cause as I did a great deal of reading about it when trying to work out why I had my cs for my first. You might like to add increase chance of fetal distress to your list next to baby's head being in the wrong position. All in all it seems like once again there are MANY reasons why not to do this to women but as far as I can tell, ambivulent reasons why to use it. But like you, I stand ready for correction as I said, I am not a midwife and I am always open for further learning! lol love Jo PS LOVE being in Bendigo for my week stayhave been able to have brunch with some great people and I have read TWO yes TWO books! This no children, husband or house work thing has some rewards! Unfortunatley the little one whom I am actually here for is snuggled up inside mum really with no intentions of coming out to suit my schedule! I am sure she will birthher baby when i am flying home! lol mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: ARm was Re: [ozmidwifery] VE
The midwife said she could not guarantee this as she had a women last year whose waters hadn't broken by second stage - the woman was on a birth stool and as she pushed the waters broke with a huge gush and her face was splattered with amniotic fluid, so if my clients waters hadn't broken by second stage she'd want to break them. Dear Jo and all I suggest the midwife gets out of the business end of proceedings! Before I had my children I went to a friends birth (was awful total cascade) but the midwife wore splatter glasses! There was not a pair within cooee of my births though. My waters broke to a huge pop with number 1 (so much so I first thought it was the baby, how much did I have to learn!!) and took out a husband, and a bookcase, midwife was experienced enough to jump away! Number 2 I had a huge 'shower' after babe (felt just like a shower) and hubby (as he caught babe) and midwife got a gush of watery vernix that required scratching off and hair washing - oh dear!! Number 3 was uneventful Number 4 I had a wacky (but lovely) midwife and doula extraordinaire rubbing vernix in their crows feet on their face (sorry is this too much info?) Unlike the other babes their was huge blobs of vernix (looked like it just came from a tub of moisturiser!!) So instead of face lifts the wise women thought they'd check out the wonders of vernix!! Babe still had heaps. Ah humour amongst the beauty, more reasons for homebirth I say!! JC -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
