Re: Rescue Remedy

2001-10-29 Thread Mary Murphy

Re the use of Australian flower Essence and W.A. Wildflower Essence, I have
been told by practitioners that they are better for those of us who live
down under. cheers, MM
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From: Christina  Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Rescue Remedy


 I don't know a lot about Bach flower remedies except that I have used
 Emergency Essence, and it has worked for me. (I think this is the same as
 rescue remedy, different name.)  My naturopath claims that Bach Flower
 Essences work well for those of British/ European origin, but  those who
 have lived in Australia for many years that Australian
Wildflower/Bushflower
 essences are more appropriate. Has anyone heard of this point of view?
 Christina.
 -Original Message-
 From: Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sunday, 28 October 2001 10:25
 Subject: RE: Rescue Remedy


 Dear Lieve
 Your messages to this list are always good.  And your kind words about
 Australian midwives are appreciated.  I think Belgian midwives are pretty
 special people too.
 I want to thank all who have shared their knowledge and beliefs about the
 flower 'remedies'.  There are many things about which my knowledge is
 limited, and I see many midwives claiming knowledge in the fields of
 alternative therapies and other modes of healing.
 
 I constantly struggle with our society's *need* to have treatments and
 therapies - and hence my sceptical response.  I know this human body is
 imperfect, and can be very easily put into a cycle of illness and
 destruction.  I think we feel compelled to interfere if we believe that
by
 not interfering the outcome is likely to be bad, and that we can make it
 better.  That's what a rescue is all about.
 In learning to be a midwife I have been learning about a woman's
 empowerment from within. By this I mean that I (the midwife) don't
usually
 do the 'empowering' (or healing or treating or therapies).  My presence
 should enable the woman's own inner knowledge to become freed up, and
 healing comes with that empowerment.  I am constantly amazed and in awe
 when I see that this has happened.  Sometimes the woman uses medicines of
 one sort or the other in her process of healing, but in the end there's a
 sense of (to quote Tao Te Ching): the mother will rightly say, 'we did
it
 ourselves'.
 
 Joy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lieve Huybrechts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Rescue Remedy
 
 Hello Jenny,
 
 I work for a few years with the Bach Flower Remedys, for myself and my
 clients. They helped me a lot in the growing we all have to do and let me
 understand why we meet challenges.
 In childbirth I use them , but not standard at every pregnancy or birth,
 only when something unexpected happens, extreme fear with the mother,to
 heal
 a bad experience in previous birth, or to help a baby after a difficult
 birth.
 I had once a nice story. A single mother had a very difficult delivery in
 the hospital.  The birth ended horribly with a difficult ventousse, that
 got
 of the head for three times. The baby's head was in asyncletisme and the
 gyn
 didn't allow it to turn. The baby needed oxygen after birth, the skin of
 the
 head was damaged and she had a large hematoom. We succeded to get the
baby
 with us for a couple off minutes without anyone else. She was still so
 shocked she didn't try to drink at the breast. I gave her some rescue and
 also did some drops on the head (I hoped they wouldn't smell the cognac
 that
 is in) and massaged it softly into the damaged skin. Then the baby was
 taken
 away to the neonatal ward. Next morning the pediatrician (who also
attended
 the birth ) came in with the baby and sayd: I have never seen a baby
 recover so quickly after such an horrible birth. We could go home the
same
 day.
 
 Dear Joy, I also read your comment and I agree  what we say can have
great
 power. But the flower remedys do work, the proof is easely given when you
 use it on young children, people that have Alzheimer and animals, often
 with
 great results.
 
 I attended the Paris conference off Midwifery Today. I met  midwifes from
 over the world, also your collegues of Australia. I loved to be with
them,
 to share storys, to learn from experiences. It was warm and beautifull to
 see that worldwide midwifes are standing up and struggle for their
 profession. We still have a long way to go and Belgium is just at the
start
 of growth.
 
 Warm greetings
 Lieve
 
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RE: Rescue Remedy

2001-10-28 Thread Johnston

Dear Lieve
Your messages to this list are always good.  And your kind words about 
Australian midwives are appreciated.  I think Belgian midwives are pretty 
special people too.
I want to thank all who have shared their knowledge and beliefs about the 
flower 'remedies'.  There are many things about which my knowledge is 
limited, and I see many midwives claiming knowledge in the fields of 
alternative therapies and other modes of healing.

I constantly struggle with our society's *need* to have treatments and 
therapies - and hence my sceptical response.  I know this human body is 
imperfect, and can be very easily put into a cycle of illness and 
destruction.  I think we feel compelled to interfere if we believe that by 
not interfering the outcome is likely to be bad, and that we can make it 
better.  That's what a rescue is all about.
In learning to be a midwife I have been learning about a woman's 
empowerment from within. By this I mean that I (the midwife) don't usually 
do the 'empowering' (or healing or treating or therapies).  My presence 
should enable the woman's own inner knowledge to become freed up, and 
healing comes with that empowerment.  I am constantly amazed and in awe 
when I see that this has happened.  Sometimes the woman uses medicines of 
one sort or the other in her process of healing, but in the end there's a 
sense of (to quote Tao Te Ching): the mother will rightly say, 'we did it 
ourselves'.

Joy


-Original Message-
From:   Lieve Huybrechts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Rescue Remedy

Hello Jenny,

I work for a few years with the Bach Flower Remedys, for myself and my
clients. They helped me a lot in the growing we all have to do and let me
understand why we meet challenges.
In childbirth I use them , but not standard at every pregnancy or birth,
only when something unexpected happens, extreme fear with the mother,to 
heal
a bad experience in previous birth, or to help a baby after a difficult
birth.
I had once a nice story. A single mother had a very difficult delivery in
the hospital.  The birth ended horribly with a difficult ventousse, that 
got
of the head for three times. The baby's head was in asyncletisme and the 
gyn
didn't allow it to turn. The baby needed oxygen after birth, the skin of 
the
head was damaged and she had a large hematoom. We succeded to get the baby
with us for a couple off minutes without anyone else. She was still so
shocked she didn't try to drink at the breast. I gave her some rescue and
also did some drops on the head (I hoped they wouldn't smell the cognac 
that
is in) and massaged it softly into the damaged skin. Then the baby was 
taken
away to the neonatal ward. Next morning the pediatrician (who also attended
the birth ) came in with the baby and sayd: I have never seen a baby
recover so quickly after such an horrible birth. We could go home the same
day.

Dear Joy, I also read your comment and I agree  what we say can have great
power. But the flower remedys do work, the proof is easely given when you
use it on young children, people that have Alzheimer and animals, often 
with
great results.

I attended the Paris conference off Midwifery Today. I met  midwifes from
over the world, also your collegues of Australia. I loved to be with them,
to share storys, to learn from experiences. It was warm and beautifull to
see that worldwide midwifes are standing up and struggle for their
profession. We still have a long way to go and Belgium is just at the start
of growth.

Warm greetings
Lieve

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Re: Rescue Remedy

2001-10-28 Thread Christina Damien

I don't know a lot about Bach flower remedies except that I have used
Emergency Essence, and it has worked for me. (I think this is the same as
rescue remedy, different name.)  My naturopath claims that Bach Flower
Essences work well for those of British/ European origin, but  those who
have lived in Australia for many years that Australian Wildflower/Bushflower
essences are more appropriate. Has anyone heard of this point of view?
Christina.
-Original Message-
From: Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, 28 October 2001 10:25
Subject: RE: Rescue Remedy


Dear Lieve
Your messages to this list are always good.  And your kind words about
Australian midwives are appreciated.  I think Belgian midwives are pretty
special people too.
I want to thank all who have shared their knowledge and beliefs about the
flower 'remedies'.  There are many things about which my knowledge is
limited, and I see many midwives claiming knowledge in the fields of
alternative therapies and other modes of healing.

I constantly struggle with our society's *need* to have treatments and
therapies - and hence my sceptical response.  I know this human body is
imperfect, and can be very easily put into a cycle of illness and
destruction.  I think we feel compelled to interfere if we believe that by
not interfering the outcome is likely to be bad, and that we can make it
better.  That's what a rescue is all about.
In learning to be a midwife I have been learning about a woman's
empowerment from within. By this I mean that I (the midwife) don't usually
do the 'empowering' (or healing or treating or therapies).  My presence
should enable the woman's own inner knowledge to become freed up, and
healing comes with that empowerment.  I am constantly amazed and in awe
when I see that this has happened.  Sometimes the woman uses medicines of
one sort or the other in her process of healing, but in the end there's a
sense of (to quote Tao Te Ching): the mother will rightly say, 'we did it
ourselves'.

Joy


-Original Message-
From: Lieve Huybrechts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Rescue Remedy

Hello Jenny,

I work for a few years with the Bach Flower Remedys, for myself and my
clients. They helped me a lot in the growing we all have to do and let me
understand why we meet challenges.
In childbirth I use them , but not standard at every pregnancy or birth,
only when something unexpected happens, extreme fear with the mother,to
heal
a bad experience in previous birth, or to help a baby after a difficult
birth.
I had once a nice story. A single mother had a very difficult delivery in
the hospital.  The birth ended horribly with a difficult ventousse, that
got
of the head for three times. The baby's head was in asyncletisme and the
gyn
didn't allow it to turn. The baby needed oxygen after birth, the skin of
the
head was damaged and she had a large hematoom. We succeded to get the baby
with us for a couple off minutes without anyone else. She was still so
shocked she didn't try to drink at the breast. I gave her some rescue and
also did some drops on the head (I hoped they wouldn't smell the cognac
that
is in) and massaged it softly into the damaged skin. Then the baby was
taken
away to the neonatal ward. Next morning the pediatrician (who also attended
the birth ) came in with the baby and sayd: I have never seen a baby
recover so quickly after such an horrible birth. We could go home the same
day.

Dear Joy, I also read your comment and I agree  what we say can have great
power. But the flower remedys do work, the proof is easely given when you
use it on young children, people that have Alzheimer and animals, often
with
great results.

I attended the Paris conference off Midwifery Today. I met  midwifes from
over the world, also your collegues of Australia. I loved to be with them,
to share storys, to learn from experiences. It was warm and beautifull to
see that worldwide midwifes are standing up and struggle for their
profession. We still have a long way to go and Belgium is just at the start
of growth.

Warm greetings
Lieve

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Re: Rescue Remedy

2001-10-23 Thread klevine



The only reference on our midwifery database which specifically mentions rescue
remedy is:

 van der Mey C. Bach flower essences: part 2. Birthplace, no 64, Spring
1998, pp 22-23

Kathy Levine
Information Officer
MIDIRS (Midwives Information and Resource Service)
9 Elmdale Road
Bristol BS8 1SL
England

Tel: 0117 925 1791
Fax: 0117 925 1792
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