Re: [ozmidwifery] GP's and OB's selling Elevit Vitamin Supplement
Hi Deidre, Elevit(spelt without the 'e') is asupplement of 'vitamins minerals for pregnancy lactation' (so printed on the package). Produced by Roche.The starter packconsists of5 tablets, one for each day.I believe the drug companies distribute free samples to GPs and Obstetricians as a mean of marketing. Each tablet contains: 11 Vitamins Thiamine nitrate (Vitamin B1) 1.55 mg Riboflavine (Vitamin B2) 1.8 mg Nicotinamide (Vitamin B3) 19 mg Calcium pantothenate (Vitamin B5) 10 mg Pyridoxine hydrochloride (Vitamin B6)2.6 mg Cynocobalamin (Vitamin B12) 4.0 microgram Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) 100 mg Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3) 12.5 microgram dl-a-Tocopherol acetate (Vitamin E)15 mg Biofin (Vitamin H) 200 microgram Folic acid 800 mircogram 7 Minerals and trace elements Calcium 125 mg Iron 60 mg Magnesium 100 mg Phosphorus 125 mg Copper 1 mg Manganese 1 mg Zinc 7.5 mg Some of our mothers take it because it has all the vitamins, especially vitamin C, whichhelps iron absorption. Usually recommended by GPs. I believe it is a little bit more expensive than the ordinary iron supplements. The tablet itself is actually huge. May be off puttingfor mothers who have difficulty with taking tablets You can contact Roche Consumer Health on its free call 1800 023 884 for further details. I only know all these because I picked upa sample when I was in NACE conference in Sydney. : --)) Hope the above info helps. Ping B. - Original Message - From: Dierdre Bowman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] GP's and OB's selling Elevit Vitamin Supplement What are elevit samples, excuse my ignorance Dierdre B. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 16/06/2003
Re: [ozmidwifery] JLY1 outcry!
Dear Denise, Yes, the AMA is obviously got a Nation wide campagin going on this matter. As far as the media is concerned (as well as the pollies) here in Brisbane - and in other States too - we write, call the media and local and State pollies, ask for meetings. The ACMI is certainly trying to bring to it to the attention at the National Level at least to the pollies and the media that Midwifery care is the cost effective go. The Maternity Coalition is doing all it can to maintain a profile with the media and government about this issue, and the inequity of choice for maternity care for women and that there is no need to 'rescue' obs from anything. Regards, Anne Clarke Brisbane Dear All The WA branch President of AMA was on the radio and TV (ABC) today trying togetthe govt to contribute to the increase in PI of priv Obs saying the women will have to pay and are already paying between $100 to $500 per pregnancy and will get higher!! Otherwise we wil not have enough doctors to deliver babies!! Mins of Health says the govt has covered the Obs in Public health and the country! Is this happening in all states? How do we get the media to acknowledge the savings of contracting private midwives for the government , health funds and community?? Denise Hynd
Re: [ozmidwifery] GP's and OB's selling Elevit Vitamin Supplement
Thanks for that Ping.
Re: [ozmidwifery] JLY1 outcry!
As part of Birth Action Group and Maternity Coalition Qld. we have gone out of our way to make sure the media never grows cold on birthing and midwifery issues. Every week we have someone writing in or answering comments to the editor about different articles. Probably one of the most effective tools we have found is to get some media on side. We have a terrific women working for our major paper who attended a birth with me and was enthrawled by what she has been privaledged to see. She is very happy to write for us and to be of influence in getting articles in the paper. I urge you all to write now. Ring up tell them you want a story done. Offer to speak about the issues. Get a few midwives and mums to gether and tell your stories. New is powerful. And one of things we are doing this week is meeting to discuss how we can make the media work for us. The other thing we are doing is going for a grant to educate the public through the media. There is plenty you can do as individuals. You just have to be diligent. Don't let sleeping dogs lie. Get up and biteem!!! Blessings Dierde B.
[ozmidwifery] Fw: Breast Feeding
I guess this is a somewhat disturbing joke in afew ways. Rhonda. BREAST FEEDINGA woman and a baby were in the doctor's examining room, waiting for the doctorto come in. The doctor arrived, examined the baby, checked his weight, found it somewhat below normal, and asked if the baby was breast fed or bottle fed."Breast fed", she replied."Well, strip down to your waist", the doctor ordered. So she did.He pressed, kneaded, rolled, cupped and pinched both breasts for a while in a detailed, rigorously thorough examination. Motioning her to get dressed, he said, "No wonder this baby is underweight. You don't have any milk.""I know", she said, "I'm his Grandma, but I'm glad I came." IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[ozmidwifery] blank emails
Hello Listers,I seem to be having a bit of difficulty with some of the e-mails that are posted to these lists and also birthnews.Some e-mails come through totally blank, they are mainly from certain people. I don't know if all these people are using the same ISP such as bigpond, optusnet or whatever.I am looking into opening a new yahoo email account as I like to keep my 'mid' things separately which is what this address was for, but am experiencing these blank emails. I might point out that sometimes when a reply has been sent with the original message that appeared blank to me is then visible. I would just like to ask some of the main people that I receive the emails blank what e-mail they are sending with if you could reply to me off list that would be appreciated, if it is possible could you please send the reply to both address' below, so I can see if it is still blank when you e-mail me directly or if it just via the list that they appear blank.The main listers that I receive the e-mails as blank are:Julie ClarkeMarilyn Kleidon (although every now and again I do get ones to read)Graham KellyLarry Megan there are a few others, but had not written them down, if I am able to find out that it is the same e-mail program, I might be able to fix the problem from my own ISP email account. If not then I will set about creating a new email address via yahoo as I also had problems with the lists when I used my hotmail address. That is what made me create this email primarily for mid related lists and yahoo groups.The two emails I would like those mentioned above to email me their e-mail that they use to post are this href="">deliverywoman @ dodo.com.au and I would appreciate a cc going to deliverywoman_aus @ yahoo.com( I have added spaces only due to the fact that occassionally the email address is not printed out in full so the gaps will hopefully allow you to see the full address.My current e-mail that I am using at dodo, so if someone might be able to suggest what the problem may be I would appreciate any input to help.My apologies for this inconvenience but desperately want to be able to read the posts.Thanking you in advance--Yours in Childbirth and with the Love of FriendshipRita«¤¤ÐÈ£ÏVÊR¥·WÓMÄѤ¤»Mother of David 13, Haydie 11, Alysha 10 and Tyler - 1Registered Nurse, Student Midwife (currently in hiatus due to injury), Birth Attendant/Doula/Montrice and aspiring CBE -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] The baby born in the shower - mum not knowing she was pregnant.
Hi everyone,I haven't seen any emails from these lists in regard to the recent birth of the baby in the shower where the mother did not know she was pregnant.I think that this scenario is a perfect example of how society and the medical community has instilled the fear of birth and the fact that it can only be done safely with doctors and interventions etc. and reinforcing to the pregnant woman that 'maybe I can't give birth "normally"'The fact that this woman did not know she was pregnant allowed her to have no current expectations of labour or fear etc. (How different would her labour and birth would have been if it was a known pregnancy).She was totally able to react inately to what pain she was feeling because she did not know they were contractions. Her instinct sent her to a warm shower to reduce the pain.I am sure (although it was not stated) that she tried tolay down, move as desired to help reduce the pain she was experiencing.She didn't describe the 'excruciating pain' until the babe's head was crowning and the father was able to see that there was a baby coming Only then did it become an 'emergency' with him dialling 000 to get the ambulance there pronto as my 'wife' is having a baby right now in the shower. The 000 operator talked him through the final steps of 2nd stage.It also shows that our body's ability to birth alone is certainly there, as this woman's contractions were increasing in strength, whilst she was able to tell they were getting worse her bodies normal endorphins were not inhibited by any adrenaline released due to the fear of the pain of labour and birth and any other fears that she might have experienced due to an unplanned pregnancy etc.Whata wonderful and beautiful story that so totally reinforces that our bodies are able to do this without any intervention and so naturally. To the point that I am 'envious' of this woman who escaped the telling of horror stories of birth and being told what to do and not to do.Mind you I am certainly aware that this could have had a totally different ending if there were any serious complications, but even then she and her partner would have known with the increase in pain etc. and have called 000 more than likely in time to prevent any serious problems or the extreme the loss of a life.Anyone else hear feel the same when hearing the news.--Yours in Childbirth and with the Love of FriendshipRita«¤¤ÐÈ£ÏVÊR¥·WÓMÄѤ¤»Mother of David 13, Haydie 11, Alysha 10 and Tyler - 1Registered Nurse, Student Midwife (currently in hiatus due to injury), Birth Attendant/Doula/Montrice and aspiring CBE -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] blank emails
Rita That has been my experience too. I thought it was probably me, but maybe it is not. I am only experiencing the problem with birthnews, not with ozmid. I emailed Jan about this, but she couldn't explain it. At first, all the birthnews emails I received were blank. Now, I receive some and not others. There is no consistency between them - for example, I have received both blank and usual emails from the same people. Debbie Slater Perth, WA Deliverywoman wrote: Hello Listers, I seem to be having a bit of difficulty with some of the e-mails that are posted to these lists and also birthnews. Some e-mails come through totally blank, they are mainly from certain people. I don't know if all these people are using the same ISP such as bigpond, optusnet or whatever. I am looking into opening a new yahoo email account as I like to keep my 'mid' things separately which is what this address was for, but am experiencing these blank emails. I might point out that sometimes when a reply has been sent with the original message that appeared blank to me is then visible. I would just like to ask some of the main people that I receive the emails blank what e-mail they are sending with if you could reply to me off list that would be appreciated, if it is possible could you please send the reply to both address' below, so I can see if it is still blank when you e-mail me directly or if it just via the list that they appear blank. The main listers that I receive the e-mails as blank are: Julie Clarke Marilyn Kleidon (although every now and again I do get ones to read) Graham Kelly Larry Megan there are a few others, but had not written them down, if I am able to find out that it is the same e-mail program, I might be able to fix the problem from my own ISP email account. If not then I will set about creating a new email address via yahoo as I also had problems with the lists when I used my hotmail address. That is what made me create this email primarily for mid related lists and yahoo groups. The two emails I would like those mentioned above to email me their e-mail that they use to post are this one = deliverywoman @ dodo.com.au mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I would appreciate a cc going to deliverywoman_aus @ yahoo.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( I have added spaces only due to the fact that occassionally the email address is not printed out in full so the gaps will hopefully allow you to see the full address. My current e-mail that I am using at dodo, so if someone might be able to suggest what the problem may be I would appreciate any input to help. My apologies for this inconvenience but desperately want to be able to read the posts. Thanking you in advance -- Yours in Childbirth and with the Love of Friendship Rita VRWM Mother of David 13, Haydie 11, Alysha 10 and Tyler - 1 Registered Nurse, Student Midwife (currently in hiatus due to injury), Birth Attendant/Doula/Montrice and aspiring CBE -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] JLY1 outcry!
Dear All The WA branch President of AMA was on the radio and TV (ABC) today trying togetthe govt to contribute to the increase in PI of priv Obs saying the women will have to pay and are already paying between $100 to $500 per pregnancy and will get higher!! Otherwise we wil not have enough doctors to deliver babies!! Mins of Health says the govt has covered the Obs in Public health and the country! Is this happening in all states? How do we get the media to acknowledge the savings of contracting private midwives for the government , health funds and community?? Denise Hynd
