Re: [ozmidwifery] opposition (was 'info required)
Be my guest! I like quotes as you may have noticed Bullying is right - it is very hard to stand up against it. Sally Westbury said something interesting at a recent ACMI meeting - if you see a colleague being bullied, just go and stand next to them, don't buy into the arguement, just stand by your colleaugue. Am waiting for the chance to do this - trouble is they often bully when you are alone or looking after your labouring woman - doesn't give you much chance to speak up. I find they tend to make a crass statement then flounce off leaving you unable to follow! Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Synnes To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] opposition (was 'info required") What a brilliant quote we can take from you Sue!! "At the bedside is not a good time to be arguing policy". I'm amazed at how much bullying occurs and how much is gotten away with even now! Amanda - Original Message - From: Susan Cudlipp To: midwifery list Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] opposition (was 'info required") One of my favorite quotes is Gandhi First the ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you and then you win. Similar to a quote I read on JB "All truth goes through 3 stages: Firstly it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, thirdly it is held to be self-evident" Well done for advocating for this woman Joy. We were discussing the National competancy standards at work recently and I held that it is not possible to uphold these in the truest sense whilst working within an obstetric model of care. We cannot truly be women's advocates and work within hospital blanket policies. I was attending a very nice normal birth recently with absolutely no adverse factors and had discussed with the woman leaving the third stage to happen naturally unless otherwise indicated. All was well untill Ob comes in uninvited, unrequested, sees synto drawn up but not given, babe in mum's arms placenta already pushed out by mum (next contraction post baby) and in kidney dish, still attached to baby. Ob goes ballistic and insists on synto being given,saying "there are no medals for haemorrhaging" even though the blood loss was minimal and well within norm, and placenta already out. (so what exactly do we give synto for again) My point being that within the obstetric model- the 'boys' hold the power, the management backs them up. At the bedside is not a good time to be arguing policy. I tried to discuss with my cnm the fact that I was responsible for giving a drug that was not necessary, so if the woman had an adverse reaction and we were sued, I would be wrong for giving the drug that was not medically indicated. Was just told that I am covered under hosp policy and have to work within them - this does not fit with what I hear about court procedings. Sorry this is a bit rambling - but wanted to add my support to you Joy for holding up under pressure and I agree that perhaps YOU should instigate a meeting to discuss this. Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 8/18/2006 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: Help end the deception
Okay, so it's ok for the government to fund thousands of abortions each year and there to be very many pro-abortionist counselling, but there must be no pro-choice views voiced. Get yourself into some of the internet sites on abortion and read stories from BOTH sides. There are very many women out there who do regret their decision. I donot want to discuss this further. We are all entitled to our views. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2006 9:29 AM To: OZ Midwifery list Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: Help end the deception Hi everyone on the list, I just recieved this today, and thought some of you might be interested signing it. No offense is intended to anyone else. Regards, Astra. - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:43:14 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Help end the deception To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Ive just taken part in a national campaign to help stop the deception of Australian women. http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/StopDeceivingWomen Right now there are no laws to stop anti-choice activists from setting up counselling services that actively mislead women - telling them that abortion increases the risk of breast cancer, infertility and mental illness. These groups also deceive women in their advertising, posing as unbiased advisors. What is worse - the Australian government is funding some of these organisations, providing $300,000 to the Australian Federation of Pregnancy Support Services (formerly the Australian Federation of Pro Life Pregnancy Support Services) last year. There is now a Senate inquiry into this issue, and they need to hear what Australians think about this! Can you add your name to a petition today? http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/StopDeceivingWomen Come-on Thanks for being a part of this important campaign! -- This email has been generated through GetUp's Tell Your Friends function. Your name and email address have not been stored or added to any mailing list, and you will not receive any further communications unless you sign up to receive our campaign alerts. To sign up, click here. - End forwarded message - -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] midiwfe in Vic
I have a client in midwifery group practice who would like to birth in Melb with her family, she is over 34 weeks so i am assuming she wont get into birth centers?? She is close to Monash, is there anyone who could talk to her regarding her options there?? Belinda SA -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Insurance for midwives
Thanks Tania, I looked also and couldn't find it. Thought it may be my ineptitude. Lisa - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Insurance for midwives Hi Joanne, Where exactly are we meant to be looking on the ACMI website for this information? I’ve searched, and can’t put a finger on it… Tania From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Joanne and Steve FisherSent: Friday, 18 August 2006 5:27 PMTo: OzmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] Insurance for midwives Hi all, If you are interested in the Insurance situation being proposed by Barb Vernon (ACMI) – see their website for further info on this possible proposal, for midwives providing any antenatal care, classes, birth or postnatal care in an independent fashion. You need to pass on your name to her and indicate your interest. Saying you are interested does not lock you in to anything and just means that your name and email will potentially be included in the list that Barb Vernon is trying to gather. There are not enough midwives Australia wide who have indicated their interest yet. There may have been other emails but they clearly need to state whether they wish to be placed on the list as registering interest. Please consider this as we do need at least 200 midwives to go ahead. If you are on the list and do not practice independently for some time it will not cost anything until you are practicing. Thanks everyone. Cheers, Joanne. --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.2/422 - Release Date: 17/08/2006 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] midiwfe in Vic
Casey hospital in Berwick appears to be a low risk low intervention hospital.On 8/22/06, Belinda Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have a client in midwifery group practice who would like to birth in Melb with her family, she is over 34 weeks so i am assuming she wont getinto birth centers?? She is close to Monash, is there anyone who couldtalk to her regarding her options there??Belinda SA--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.-- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nzMy Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_PhotographersNew Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.comLife is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown
RE: [ozmidwifery] midiwfe in Vic
We have several home birth midwives, all on the internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Maier Sent: Tuesday, 22 August 2006 12:07 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] midiwfe in Vic I have a client in midwifery group practice who would like to birth in Melb with her family, she is over 34 weeks so i am assuming she wont get into birth centers?? She is close to Monash, is there anyone who could talk to her regarding her options there?? Belinda SA -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] midiwfe in Vic
The list of MIPP is available at http://www.maternitycoalition.org.au/mipps/mipps.html Andrea Quanchi On 21/08/2006, at 10:23 PM, Ken Ward wrote: We have several home birth midwives, all on the internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Maier Sent: Tuesday, 22 August 2006 12:07 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] midiwfe in Vic I have a client in midwifery group practice who would like to birth in Melb with her family, she is over 34 weeks so i am assuming she wont get into birth centers?? She is close to Monash, is there anyone who could talk to her regarding her options there?? Belinda SA -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Question about midwifery in Australia
Hi Mia, I'm an independent midwife in South Australia but am from Wales and worked as a midwife in England for 14 years before coming here. If you like I'd be happy to email you off list. What part of Australia are you thinking of coming to? Lisa Barrett -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Question about midwifery in Australia
You're very welcome to email me off list, thanks! I'm thinking about Sydney, mainly because I've been there and liked it, have some contacts there and think that the opportunities for work are probably greater in a big city - plus I'm used to living in London so I might feel a bit isolated if I went anywhere too quiet. Where are you based? Mia - Original Message - From: Lisa Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Question about midwifery in Australia Hi Mia, I'm an independent midwife in South Australia but am from Wales and worked as a midwife in England for 14 years before coming here. If you like I'd be happy to email you off list. What part of Australia are you thinking of coming to? Lisa Barrett -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] birth dvd?
I am desperately searching for a good dvd of birth for CBE, and I'm unable to find an appropriate dvd. I wonder if any of you wise women have a recommendation that fits my criteria: Normal birth (preferably without analgesia) Midwifery led care Woman NOT birthing on her back/semi supine Not a waterbirth (unfortunately) Midwife NOT 'directing' the second stage - chin on your chest and push etc Midwife NOT fiddling about with baby's head when it is on the perineum Peferably filmed in the last few years Perhaps I am being a bit unrealistic - but it would be nice. I can't bring myself to show the group the hospital videos because they go against everything I discuss with the group. Thanks Rachel _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] midiwfe in Vic
Yes, I work at Casey Hospital, have been since it opened last year. We provide midwifery led care to women who are 'low-risk'. It is a lovely hospital (as hospitals go) and the midwives are great!! Sally - Original Message - From: Mike Lindsay Kennedy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] midiwfe in Vic Casey hospital in Berwick appears to be a low risk low intervention hospital. On 8/22/06, Belinda Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a client in midwifery group practice who would like to birth in Melb with her family, she is over 34 weeks so i am assuming she wont getinto birth centers?? She is close to Monash, is there anyone who couldtalk to her regarding her options there??Belinda SA--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.-- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nzMy Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_PhotographersNew Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.com"Life is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets." Unknown No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] birth dvd?
Hi Rachael I purchased Giving Birth Being Bornfor antenatal classes and get a lot of positive feedback it features women naturally giving birth (in a birth clinic in Austria) in a wonderful birth room, and is accompanied by gentle music and the natural sounds of labour. Very empowering Natalie ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 08/22/06 07:35:05 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] birth dvd? I am desperately searching for a good dvd of birth for CBE, and I'm unable to find an appropriate dvd. I wonder if any of you wise women have a recommendation that fits my criteria: Normal birth (preferably without analgesia) Midwifery led care Woman NOT birthing on her back/semi supine Not a waterbirth (unfortunately) Midwife NOT 'directing' the second stage - "chin on your chest and push" etc Midwife NOT fiddling about with baby's head when it is on the perineum Peferably filmed in the last few years Perhaps I am being a bit unrealistic - but it would be nice. I can't bring myself to show the group the hospital videos because they go against everything I discuss with the group. Thanks Rachel _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] birth dvd?
Inner Strength (birth centre in Austria) is one of my top 3 - along with Giving Birth, Being Born and The Birth of Neko Pilara (NZ) and a good Australian one is Aiming for a Natural Birth... From: "Natalie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birth dvd?Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:01:10 +0800 Hi Rachael I purchased Giving Birth Being Bornfor antenatal classes and get a lot of positive feedback it features women naturally giving birth (in a birth clinic in Austria) in a wonderful birth room, and is accompanied by gentle music and the natural sounds of labour. Very empowering Natalie ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 08/22/06 07:35:05 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] birth dvd? I am desperately searching for a good dvd of birth for CBE, and I'm unable to find an appropriate dvd. I wonder if any of you wise women have a recommendation that fits my criteria: Normal birth (preferably without analgesia) Midwifery led care Woman NOT birthing on her back/semi supine Not a waterbirth (unfortunately) Midwife NOT 'directing' the second stage - "chin on your chest and push" etc Midwife NOT fiddling about with baby's head when it is on the perineum Peferably filmed in the last few years Perhaps I am being a bit unrealistic - but it would be nice. I can't bring myself to show the group the hospital videos because they go against everything I discuss with the group. Thanks Rachel _ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
