Re: [ozmidwifery] what happened in this birth..?

2006-12-29 Thread Heartlogic
Dear Kristin,

you said:

This woman is having a tough time postnatally trying to fill in the gaps 
herself without *offending* staff by asking too many questions.. 

What is giving this woman the impression she is at risk of 'offending' staff?  
This is very worrying. 

I would encourage her to make an appointment to see the doctor(s) and 
midwife(ves) who were looking after her and go through the notes step by step. 
She can make the appointment through the manager of the 'delivery suite/labour 
ward' or the service manager or the head staff specialist.  She has every right 
to get her questions answered in a way that make sense to her. She probably 
needs someone with her to support her and who can help her with asking the 
questions she wants answers to. 

As Andrea said, it is very difficult to make sense of what happens to women in 
labour unless you were there, and even then it can be hard to understand 
sometimes. 

warmly, Carolyn 


[ozmidwifery] New Grads

2006-12-31 Thread Heartlogic
Great words Suzi and so true.  
Sue is an amazing midwife and has done so much for birthing women and their 
families.  We are so privileged to have her in our profession. 
Happy New Year everyone. 
love, Carolyn 
  - Original Message - 
  From: suzi and brett 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] What happened with this birth?


  Congratulations Sue and all the other new graduates, well done!  I know its a 
big ask to become so called legitimised when you have already been a midwife 
for so long, its also great to have someone with your experience within the 
system too. You have so much wisdom to share.

  Love Suzi xx

Bipolar realities or two streams of thinking about Twins (very long)

2001-08-18 Thread Heartlogic Consultancy
 who want to see a movement towards
respect and support of the innate intelligence of birth and women's
processes need to join together to ensure a vibrant, healthy, powerful force
and safe, sane birth practices.We need to speak up, to end the silence
around the iatrogenic morbidity issues in birthing.   Women must claim their
right to be unmolested, both emotionally and physically in birthing.
Midwives must claim their role as guardians of the normal and protectors of
the birthing space. Medicine must realise the inappropriateness of a blanket
approach to birthing women.  They snuff out the fire of spirited birth.   If
medicine can recreate themselves as a safety net, that is much more helpful
and supportive for birthing women.

Joining and becoming active in Maternity Coalition is one such creative
pathway for safe change.  It is only when enough women (and their families),
midwives and medical men (and women) come together in true, consultative
partnership will we see the build up of enough momentum to change the focus
and direction of the current reality.

promoting and celebrating women's innate birthing intelligence,

Carolyn Hastie

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Re: Twin policies.LONG

2001-08-19 Thread Heartlogic Consultancy

Hi all, isn't this the most exciting and wonderful story?

 I had one night's sleep followed by a day that will be a highlight in
 my career - WATERBIRTH OF TWINS - Olivia and Brianna .  and guess
 where?
 in their LOCAL STATE HOSPITAL!!

Just shows what is possible when people respect women's plans and processes
and work to create an environment where it can happen with a safety net in
place.

Happily Celebrating women's innate birthing intelligence,

Carolyn



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Fw: I learn something every day (long)

2001-09-10 Thread Heartlogic Consultancy



Sheryl wrote:

That's one of the many things I love about this 
job.
Every birth I have ever attended has never been 
like any other.

ain't it the truth! :-)

she says to him , so can you tell what that is 
then and he looks between her legs and sees what looks like the baby's head. So 
that's when he calls us, on the cordless phone while Alison's in the shower. He 
hangs up the phone and she stands up to turn the shower off and out comes the 
baby!

Isn't this wonderful???!!! So funny. And what a 
testimony to the preparation that you two gave them that they were able to 
manage and stay calm and collected (even though bemused :-)

Loved Robin's story too of the woman who went from 2 cms to 
fullyquick smart - helps us to recognise the limitations of the findings 
of VE's - despite the myths around the need to do them. 

One labouring woman I cared for as a hospital midwife, was 
three cms and head -2 and as I withdrew my fingers, the baby followed - sure 
surprised me that day! Took me a while to integrate that one and 
provided me withfirm basis of skeptism about the 'need' for VE's - I do 
concede they are a useful tool on occasions - more so for the mother so she 
'knows' where she's at. 

Another amazing and delightful story is of the time when the 
husband of a (primigravida) woman I cared for as a private practitioner rang to 
say she was in labour and feeling pressure.This woman was booked to birth 
in hospital.  According to her husband, she refused to go to hospital until she 
was checked, she'd heard all about these false labours and was keen to be sure 
it was the real thing.I was out and about in the late evening and 
had no gear in the car or at her place. AsI drove to her place, 
thinking oh oh and what if there is meconium?? and what if there is...etc etc, I 
went through every possible disaster scenario with no equipment and thought, 
well, I'll just have to handle it whatever happens. When I arrived, I was 
shown into their bedroom. They had full length mirrors and an en -suite 
bathroom. She was kneeling and looking at herselfover her shoulder 
in the full length mirror. The baby's head was just about crowned. I 
said 'how are you feeling?' she said "I've been better!" and then "I'm 
glad you are here, I don't have to hold on anymore" and with that, out came the 
baby. The placenta followed in similar expedient fashion. Her perineum was 
intact. Her entire labour was 2 hours and 15 minutes. The next baby 
they chose to have a homebirth saying that it was just as well to have it 
planned this time. The birth of the second babywas also very 
efficient, neat and controlled.

Had the pleasure of assisting a woman last week who had a 
normal birth after a caesarian. She was stuck with an anterior lip 
forhours last time and finally went for a caesarian with the full spinal 
headache after. During the pregnancy we explored every possibility and the 
ins and outs of the physiology. She was well prepared and focused. 
Wanted the baby early, so as to avoid the being late issue so common with women 
wanting a VBAC. Went into labour at 38 weeks. progressed quickly. 
Had to do some mental gymnastics regarding pushing the baby out. Was 
telling herself she was tired (her contractions went off then) and had to change 
it to "Ihave energy and I can do it!" with passion and feeling. Her 
contractions came on in greater force and she pushed the baby out beautifully 
(he had a 37cm head and she's built like a wippet). We were just 
discussing the labour and her thinking tonight and she was relating how she had 
to get her head around birthing her baby andwhat an effort it was 
tostay focused. We talked about how at one point during second stage 
she was sitting on the toilet and we were in the bedroom having a chat and she 
yelled out "Shut up out there! Don't you know I'm having to focus on 
having a baby and I can't do it with you all talking!" We all sniggered 
quietly, but pleased she had claimed her space - women so often are so busy 
worrying and caring for others that they don't claim the environment they need 
tobirth in and when shedid that, we knew she would be fine. 


It's so true what Sherylsaid - learning all the time - 
the astonishing potentialand capabilities of birthing women. Thanks 
for telling us such a wonderful story Sheryl. Sharing the stories is so 
important - it's great that you have got us going again. 

Celebrating women's innate birthing intelligence,

Carolyn Hastie



A message from Deepak Chopra

2001-09-17 Thread Heartlogic Consultancy

Dear Friends,  a message from Deepak Chopra.  I thought you may find it
helpful.  I do.
love, Carolyn

From: prembuda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Deeper Wound

As fate would have it, I was leaving New York on a jet flight that took off
45 minutes before the unthinkable happened. By the time we landed in
Detroit, chaos had broken out. When I grasped the fact that American
security had broken down so tragically, I couldn't respond at first. My wife
and son were also in the air on separate flights, one to Los Angeles, one to
San Diego. My body went absolutely rigid with fear. All I could think about
was their safety, and it took several
hours before I found out that their flights had been diverted and both were
safe.

Strangely, when the good news came, my body still felt that it had been
hit by a truck.  Of its own accord it seemed to feel a far greater trauma
that reached out to the thousands who would not survive and the tens of
thousands who would survive only to live through months and years of hell.
And I asked myself, Why didn't I feel this way last week? Why didn't my
body go stiff during the bombing of Iraq or Bosnia?

Around the world my horror and worry are experienced every day. Mothers
weep over horrendous loss, civilians are bombed mercilessly, refugees are
ripped from any sense of home or homeland.  Why did I not feel their
anguish enough to call a halt to it?

As we hear the calls for tightened American security and a fierce military
response to terrorism, it is obvious that none of us has any answers.
However, we feel compelled to ask some questions.

Everything has a cause, so we have to ask, What was the root cause of this
evil? We must find out not superficially but at the deepest level. There is
no doubt that such evil is alive all around the world and is even
celebrated. Does this evil grow from the suffering and anguish felt by
people we don't know and therefore ignore? Have they lived in this condition
for a long time?
One assumes that whoever did this attack feels implacable hatred for
America. Why were we selected to be the focus of suffering around the world?
All this hatred and anguish seems to have religion at its basis. Isn't
something terribly wrong when jihads and wars develop in the name of God?
Isn't God invoked with hatred in Ireland, Sri Lanka, India,  Pakistan,
Israel, Palestine, and even among the intolerant sects of America? Can any
military response make the slightest difference in the underlying cause? Is
there not a deep wound at the heart of humanity?

If there is a deep wound, doesn't it affect everyone?

When generations of suffering respond with bombs, suicidal attacks, and
biological warfare, who first developed these weapons? Who sells them? Who
gave birth to the satanic technologies now being turned against us?
If all of us are wounded, will revenge work? Will punishment in any form
toward anyone solve the wound or aggravate it? Will an eye for an eye, a
tooth for a tooth, and limb for a limb, leave us all blind, toothless and
crippled?

Tribal warfare has been going on for two thousand years and has now been
magnified globally. Can tribal warfare be brought to an end? Is patriotism
and nationalism even relevant anymore, or is this another form of tribalism?

What are you and I as persons going to do about what is happening? Can we
afford to let the deeper wound fester any longer? Everyone is calling this
an attack on America, but is it not a rift in our collective soul? Isn't
this an attack on
civilization from without that is also from within?

When we have secured our safety once more and cared for the wounded, after
the period of shock and mourning is over, it will be time for soul
searching. I only hope that these questions are confronted with the deepest
spiritual intent. None of us will feel safe again behind the shield of
military might and stockpiled arsenals. There can be no safety until the
root cause is faced. In this moment of shock I don't
think anyone of us has the answers. It is imperative that we pray and offer
solace and help to each other.  But if you and I are  having a single
thought of violence or hatred against anyone in the world at this moment, we
are contributing to the wounding of the world.

Love,
Deepak Chopra
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Fw: A Call for Moral Creativity

2001-09-19 Thread Heartlogic Consultancy

Dear all, so wonderful to see so many people calling for a new way of
dealing with the horrors of terrorism.  I thought you may find this helpful.
love, Carolyn

Civilization is the intelligent management of human emotions  Jim Rohn

- Original Message -
From: Gwen Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: Fwd: A Call for Moral Creativity


Mary Hunt is known to many in Australia.
This excellent Call for Moral Creativity appeared on the Water list.
Gwen Benjamin


From: Mary E. Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: A Call for Moral Creativity
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:46:50 -0400
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A Call for Moral Creativity
Mary E. Hunt
Women's Alliance for Theology, Ethics and Ritual (WATER)
Silver Spring, Maryland
September 18, 2001


 New horrors require new moral creativity.  The tragic events of
 September
11, 2001, challenge people of good will, especially religious people, to
find new ways of handling conflict and dealing with difference.
Fortunately, feminist and other progressive thinkers have been working
along these lines for some time so we do not start from scratch.

 Moral creativity requires the deepest resources of our various
 religious
traditions and the most profound human insights we can muster.  It is a
process that prioritizes careful listening over reactive speech.  It may
not be enough to stem the tide of harsh words and plans for retribution.
But it is a step away from the dynamics that spawned this catastrophe. When
we engage in it together, it is a step toward peace.

 The first moral duty we have is to those whose lives have been
 lost, whose
bodies have been damaged.  We search, rescue, bury and mourn.  Their loved
ones and the rest of us in the human family live with the pain of their
deaths, the futility of their suffering.  We vow not vengeance, but an end
to such evil as the most appropriate way to honor their memory.

 Then the hard work continues as we discern morally appropriate
 steps to
bring about a new peace.  No one pretends this is easy. Anyone who has a
simple answer is mistaken.  But it is as essential and patriotic a task as
digging through rubble or donating blood.  It is an investment in the
market of love and ideas, not the market of money and profit.

 This ethical analysis cannot be carried on in the old, inadequate
 language
of just war and collateral damage.  It requires new categories like
global concern and life is precious if it is to be useful. Otherwise,
we act as if nuclear, biological, chemical and other weapons were not
capable of destroying all of us and the earth we inhabit.  This is a new
moment for which old words are outmoded.  Let them go that out of the
silence might come insight.

 The danger of responding to terrorism with military might, harming
innocent people even if it would eradicate terrorism, is simply too great.
The potential to unleash even more violence around the world is enormous.
Such violence will sanction, however implicitly, the many forms of
militarism and hatred that help to create the conditions for the
unspeakable acts in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.  This will be a
deadly failure of the moral imagination.

 Moral creativity is needed to produce responses that will stop the
terrorists without falling prey to their logic.  This is the task to which
we need to set our hearts and minds.  Let all people of good will,
especially religious people, exercise our moral imagination to create
sustainable, feasible alternatives to saber rattling and war.  If we can
send people into space and create the Internet, surely we can pool our
intelligence of many sorts and find a solution.  It will be not be easy or
obvious, but it can be done.

 Now is the time to ask critical questions of our countries and of
ourselves.  It is time to learn about religions and nations that, until
now, have simply been words to us.  For example, Islam no more teaches its
adherents to strive toward martyrdom by killing people than does
Christianity or Judaism.  It is time for a frank assessment of our place as
a rich, over-consuming nation in a world where so many have so little to
lose.  Only then can we begin to consider what strategies might get to the
roots of the problem.  Peace requires a certain humility.

 Ordinary U.S. citizens can engage in this process in very
 practical ways
by rethinking our own reactions even as we grieve and tremble.  Peace and
patriotism are intertwined. We can start with the common symbols people
rely on during this crisis.  Each time we sing the National Anthem, or God
Bless America, let us add a song for peace, such as Let there be Peace on
Earth, to remind ourselves that we are citizens of the world, not simply
U.S. citizens.  It will remind us that our goal is global well 

Interesting articles

2001-11-15 Thread Heartlogic Consultancy


Hi colleagues,

a couple of interesting articles, great to see the evidence mounting..

http://bmj.com/cgi/collection/pregnancy


Promoting normality in childbirth
 Richard Johanson and Mary Newburn
 BMJ 2001;323 1142-1143


http://bmj.com/cgi/collection/reproductive_medicine


Unwanted caesarean sections among public and private patients in Brazil:
prospective study
 Joseph E Potter, Elza Berquo, Ignez H O Perpetuo, Ondina Fachel Leal,
 Kristine Hopkins, Marta Rovery Souza, and Maria Celia de Carvalho
 Formiga
 BMJ 2001;323 1155-1158

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