RE: websitespark

[Jorke Odolphi]

Yep (hit send too early before) - btw this is all valid feedback which I will 
be following up on. For the moment, it is what it is!

Cheers
Jorke

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
Sent: Friday, 25 September 2009 5:16 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: websitespark

The hope is that with VS2010 developers will be able to do most things without 
Blend3? But certainly at the moment you're spot on, it would be better to see 3 
full expression licenses in there, but hey 1 is better then none :)
John.


Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:51:56 +0800
Subject: Re: websitespark
From: ola.e.karls...@gmail.com
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com

Hi Jorke,

As I mentioned to you earlier, I think this is a great idea and initiative.

However, and it will be interesting to hear what other people on this list have 
to say on this, I'm really surprised at the licencing of Expression Studio.

You get 3 Visual Studio licences, 8 server licences and a heap of other goodies 
but only 1 Expression Studio license (not counting Expression Web), also that 
single license is locked down to the "Primary contact" of the company 
(http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/Support.aspx#que8).

The issue with this is that, If you want to do Silverlight development (as most 
of us on this list), you pretty much need both VS and Blend to be efficient.

I guess you could say that there's not that many Silverlight developers around, 
so one license should be enough, which I guess is fair enough. But if Microsoft 
wants to increase adoption of Silverlight, shouldn't you make the tools easily 
available? Yes true you can do Silverlight development on just Visual Studio, 
but as soon as you want to do any animations or state transitions, you need 
Blend.

There's also the whole, locking it down to who in the company gets it, I assume 
that in most cases the "Primary contact" will be the owner of the company and 
how often will that person be the Silvelight dev?

Sorry for the rant, and please don't take this the wrong way, as I said, I 
think it's a great initiative!
And a lot of small web dev shops (including the one I work for) will benefit 
greatly from it.

I just think the licencing of the Expression should be different ;)

Cheers,
Ola


On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Jorke Odolphi  wrote:
As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)

I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark you'll see that the gu has already post about this.
[http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/i_safe.gif]
WebSiteSpark is aimed specifically at those who are developing in the web 
platform and we're giving them a jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft 
Platform.
The Australian launch of WebSiteSpark will be on the 8th of October at Web 
Directions South - Hope to see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft:
*3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition
*1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web)
*2 licenses of Expression Web 3
*4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2
*4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition
*DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers)
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  WebsiteSpark makes it easy to find hosters who 
are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to provide you 
with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your sites on.
In addition to software, WebsiteSpark provides partner opportunities to grow 
and build your business  through referrals and product support training.
Who can get WebSiteSpark?
This is really simple:
1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others.
2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees.
If you meet these requirements you can sign up today. As part of the enrollment 
process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster or enter a 
code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie. Once you have 
that code you can enrol and start downloading the software - If you're in 
Australia you can send an email to me: jor...@microsoft.com and i'll hook you 
up - otherwise websp...@microsoft.com .
After 3 years?
You have no obligation to continue using the software just a $100 fee for the 

RE: websitespark

[John OBrien]

The hope is that with VS2010 developers will be able to do most things without 
Blend3? But certainly at the moment you're spot on, it would be better to see 3 
full expression licenses in there, but hey 1 is better then none :)

John.
 


Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:51:56 +0800
Subject: Re: websitespark
From: ola.e.karls...@gmail.com
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com

Hi Jorke, 


As I mentioned to you earlier, I think this is a great idea and initiative.


However, and it will be interesting to hear what other people on this list have 
to say on this, I'm really surprised at the licencing of Expression Studio. 


You get 3 Visual Studio licences, 8 server licences and a heap of other goodies 
but only 1 Expression Studio license (not counting Expression Web), also that 
single license is locked down to the "Primary contact" of the company 
(http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/Support.aspx#que8).


The issue with this is that, If you want to do Silverlight development (as most 
of us on this list), you pretty much need both VS and Blend to be efficient. 


I guess you could say that there's not that many Silverlight developers around, 
so one license should be enough, which I guess is fair enough. But if Microsoft 
wants to increase adoption of Silverlight, shouldn't you make the tools easily 
available? Yes true you can do Silverlight development on just Visual Studio, 
but as soon as you want to do any animations or state transitions, you need 
Blend. 


There's also the whole, locking it down to who in the company gets it, I assume 
that in most cases the "Primary contact" will be the owner of the company and 
how often will that person be the Silvelight dev?


Sorry for the rant, and please don't take this the wrong way, as I said, I 
think it's a great initiative! 
And a lot of small web dev shops (including the one I work for) will benefit 
greatly from it. 


I just think the licencing of the Expression should be different ;)


Cheers,
Ola





On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Jorke Odolphi  wrote:



As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
 
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)
 
I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark you’ll see that the gu has already post about this.
 
WebSiteSpark is aimed specifically at those who are developing in the web 
platform and we’re giving them a jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft 
Platform.
The Australian launch of WebSiteSpark will be on the 8th of October at Web 
Directions South – Hope to see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft: 
•3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition 
•1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web) 
•2 licenses of Expression Web 3 
•4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2 
•4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition 
•DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers) 
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  WebsiteSpark makes it easy to find hosters who 
are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to provide you 
with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your sites on. 
In addition to software, WebsiteSpark provides partner opportunities to grow 
and build your business  through referrals and product support training.
Who can get WebSiteSpark?
This is really simple:
1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others. 
2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees. 
If you meet these requirements you can sign up today. As part of the enrollment 
process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster or enter a 
code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie. Once you have 
that code you can enrol and start downloading the software – If you’re in 
Australia you can send an email to me: jor...@microsoft.com and i’ll hook you 
up – otherwise websp...@microsoft.com .
After 3 years?
You have no obligation to continue using the software just a $100 fee for the 
use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a decision on 
whether you’re happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be part of the 
Microsoft Partner Network. 
What’s happening in Australia?
The official launch of WebSiteSpark in Australia will be at Web Directions 
South on the 8th of October and from the start we’ve partnered with two of 
Australia’s best hosting companies to provide the network services, Me

RE: websitespark

[Jorke Odolphi]

The numbers for what you get is based on typical usage and use cases that we've 
seen from a lot of web dev companies. I would say that if you find the software 
useful and you need more of it to support what you are doing - buy it. I can 
help you get a good deal if this is the case. WebSiteSpark is all about giving 
web professionals a jump start into using Microsoft tools.

I believe there is a lot of old school trust in this program, in that we're 
asking you how many employees you have without sending around a census, and I'm 
no licensing expert, but there is no real way for us to track who is actually 
using the software on which machine so we're trusting people to do the right 
thing by us and trusting the Primary contact to act responsibly.

Cheers
Jorke


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ola Karlsson
Sent: Friday, 25 September 2009 4:52 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Re: websitespark

Hi Jorke,

As I mentioned to you earlier, I think this is a great idea and initiative.

However, and it will be interesting to hear what other people on this list have 
to say on this, I'm really surprised at the licencing of Expression Studio.

You get 3 Visual Studio licences, 8 server licences and a heap of other goodies 
but only 1 Expression Studio license (not counting Expression Web), also that 
single license is locked down to the "Primary contact" of the company 
(http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/Support.aspx#que8).

The issue with this is that, If you want to do Silverlight development (as most 
of us on this list), you pretty much need both VS and Blend to be efficient.

I guess you could say that there's not that many Silverlight developers around, 
so one license should be enough, which I guess is fair enough. But if Microsoft 
wants to increase adoption of Silverlight, shouldn't you make the tools easily 
available? Yes true you can do Silverlight development on just Visual Studio, 
but as soon as you want to do any animations or state transitions, you need 
Blend.

There's also the whole, locking it down to who in the company gets it, I assume 
that in most cases the "Primary contact" will be the owner of the company and 
how often will that person be the Silvelight dev?

Sorry for the rant, and please don't take this the wrong way, as I said, I 
think it's a great initiative!
And a lot of small web dev shops (including the one I work for) will benefit 
greatly from it.

I just think the licencing of the Expression should be different ;)

Cheers,
Ola


On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Jorke Odolphi 
mailto:jor...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)

I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> you'll 
see that the gu has already post about 
this.<http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-the-websitespark-program.aspx>
<http://blogs.technet.com/blogfiles/jorke/WindowsLiveWriter/AnnouncingWebSiteSparkinAustralia_14250/WebsiteSpark_Banner_2.jpg>
WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> is aimed specifically 
at those who are developing in the web platform and we're giving them a 
jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft Platform.
The Australian launch of 
WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> will be on the 8th of 
October at Web Directions South<http://south09.webdirections.org/> - Hope to 
see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft:
*3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition
*1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web)
*2 licenses of Expression Web 3
*4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2
*4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition
*DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers)
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  
WebsiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> makes it easy to find 
hosters who are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to 
provide you with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your 
sites on.
In addition to software, 
WebsiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> provides partner 
opportunities to grow and build your business  thr

Re: websitespark

[Ola Karlsson]

Hi Jorke,
As I mentioned to you earlier, I think this is a great idea and initiative.

However, and it will be interesting to hear what other people on this list
have to say on this, I'm really surprised at the licencing of Expression
Studio.

You get 3 Visual Studio licences, 8 server licences and a heap of other
goodies but only 1 Expression Studio license (not counting Expression Web),
also that single license is locked down to the "Primary contact" of the
company (http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/Support.aspx#que8).

The issue with this is that, If you want to do Silverlight development (as
most of us on this list), you pretty much need both VS and Blend to be
efficient.

I guess you could say that there's not that many Silverlight developers
around, so one license should be enough, which I guess is fair enough. But
if Microsoft wants to increase adoption of Silverlight, shouldn't you make
the tools easily available? Yes true you can do Silverlight development on
just Visual Studio, but as soon as you want to do any animations or state
transitions, you need Blend.

There's also the whole, locking it down to who in the company gets it, I
assume that in most cases the "Primary contact" will be the owner of the
company and how often will that person be the Silvelight dev?

Sorry for the rant, and please don't take this the wrong way, as I said, I
think it's a great initiative!
And a lot of small web dev shops (including the one I work for) will benefit
greatly from it.

I just think the licencing of the Expression should be different ;)

Cheers,
Ola



On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Jorke Odolphi  wrote:

>  As per *
> http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
> *
> I would love to hear your comments.
> (apologies if duplicated)
> 
> I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at
> Microsoft for Australia; 
> *WebSiteSpark*you’ll see that the
> *gu has already post about 
> this.*
>
> 
> *WebSiteSpark*  is aimed
> specifically at those who are developing in the web platform and we’re
> giving them a jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft Platform.
> The Australian launch of 
> *WebSiteSpark*will be on the
> *8th of October* at *Web Directions 
> South*– Hope to see you there!
> So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
> *What to we give you?*
> Software licenses that you can use for *three years* *AT NO COST*.  Once
> enrolled, you can download and immediately use the following software from
> Microsoft:
> •3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition
> •1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend,
> Sketchflow, and Web)
> •2 licenses of Expression Web 3
> •4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2
> •4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition
> •DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your
> servers)
> The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development
> and production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your
> own, or use the licenses with a hoster.  
> *WebsiteSpark*makes it easy to 
> find hosters who are also enrolled in the program, and who
> can use your licenses to provide you with either dedicated or virtual
> dedicated servers to host your sites on.
> In addition to software, 
> *WebsiteSpark*provides partner 
> opportunities to grow and build your business  through
> referrals and product support training.
> *Who can get WebSiteSpark?*
> This is really simple:
> *1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others.
> **2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees. *
> If you meet these requirements *you can sign up today*. As part of the
> enrollment process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster
> or enter a code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie.
> Once you have that code you can enrol and start downloading the software –
> If you’re in Australia you can send an email to me: 
> *jor...@microsoft.com*and i’ll hook you up – otherwise
> *websp...@microsoft.com*  .
> *After 3 years?*
> You have no obligation to continue using the software just a *$100 fee*for 
> the use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a
> decision on whether you’re happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be
> part of the *Microsoft Partner 
> Network*

RE: websitespark

[Jorke Odolphi]

Dotnetpanel is designed as a web host control panel if you're going to 
self-host and manage the servers yourself.

I don't know why azure is not included at this stage - I'll speculate that its 
due to it not being a fully released product/service right now. That is valid 
feedback however and I'll make sure I ask that question.

Cheers
Jorke

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke
Sent: Friday, 25 September 2009 11:09 AM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: websitespark

Excellent initiative.  This is a massive step towards cleaning up software 
licensing issues.  As a budding MicroISV, this means that I can easily gain 
access to the tools that I need to develop and manage my software solutions.

I'd like to learn more about the DotNetPanel control panel and I'd like to know 
why this wasn't linked to Azure in any way.

Kind Regards,

Darren Neimke
darren.nei...@live.com<mailto:darren.nei...@live.com>





From: jor...@microsoft.com
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: websitespark
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:03:02 +
As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)

I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> you'll 
see that the gu has already post about 
this.<http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-the-websitespark-program.aspx>
<http://blogs.technet.com/blogfiles/jorke/WindowsLiveWriter/AnnouncingWebSiteSparkinAustralia_14250/WebsiteSpark_Banner_2.jpg>
WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> is aimed specifically 
at those who are developing in the web platform and we're giving them a 
jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft Platform.
The Australian launch of 
WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> will be on the 8th of 
October at Web Directions South<http://south09.webdirections.org/> - Hope to 
see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft:
*3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition
*1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web)
*2 licenses of Expression Web 3
*4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2
*4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition
*DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers)
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  
WebsiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> makes it easy to find 
hosters who are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to 
provide you with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your 
sites on.
In addition to software, 
WebsiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> provides partner 
opportunities to grow and build your business  through referrals and product 
support training.
Who can get WebSiteSpark?
This is really simple:
1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others.
2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees.
If you meet these requirements you can sign up today. As part of the enrollment 
process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster or enter a 
code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie. Once you have 
that code you can enrol and start downloading the software - If you're in 
Australia you can send an email to me: 
jor...@microsoft.com<mailto:jor...@microsoft.com> and i'll hook you up - 
otherwise websp...@microsoft.com<mailto:websp...@microsoft.com> .
After 3 years?
You have no obligation to continue using the software just a $100 fee for the 
use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a decision on 
whether you're happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be part of the 
Microsoft Partner Network<https://partner.microsoft.com/global/partner>.
What's happening in Australia?
The official launch of WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> 
in Australia will be at Web Directions South<http://south09.webdirections.org/> 
on the 8th of October and from the start we've partnered with two of 
Australia's best hosting companies to provide the network services, Melbourne 
IT<http://www.melbourneit.com.au/> (under 
WebCentral<http://www.webcentral.com.au/>) and 
Westnet<http://w

RE: websitespark

[Jorke Odolphi]

Thanks for the feedback.

The intent is that your primary business is development and design of web 
properties for your customers, also for you to tell us about that.. 
http://www.microsoft.com/web/WebSiteSpark/Support.aspx#que7  - so I guess that 
would come down to your interpretation of who your customers are..

It is possible that azure could be included - definitely will be having 
conversations around that, to figure out the feasibility.

Cheers
Jorke



From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu Tusnea
Sent: Friday, 25 September 2009 1:16 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: websitespark

Hi Jorke,

This is an awesome initiative. Any ideas
If I understand correctly from the agreements of this it only works if you host 
websites designed for customers and not for yourself so it does not apply for 
companies that do any type of software-as-a-service type of business or not 
"custom development for a customer type".
E.g. would this apply to a service like www.twitter.com<http://www.twitter.com> 
or www.saasu.com<http://www.saasu.com> or similar, websites that are open to 
the public or to a set of customers but not "developed for customers"?

Also, any idea if azure hosting will be included later down the track?

Am I right in my understanding?

Thanks,
Corneliu.




From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jorke Odolphi 
[jor...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Friday, 25 September 2009 11:03 AM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: websitespark
As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)

I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> you'll 
see that the gu has already post about 
this.<http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-the-websitespark-program.aspx>
<http://blogs.technet.com/blogfiles/jorke/WindowsLiveWriter/AnnouncingWebSiteSparkinAustralia_14250/WebsiteSpark_Banner_2.jpg>
WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> is aimed specifically 
at those who are developing in the web platform and we're giving them a 
jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft Platform.
The Australian launch of 
WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> will be on the 8th of 
October at Web Directions South<http://south09.webdirections.org/> - Hope to 
see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft:
*3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition
*1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web)
*2 licenses of Expression Web 3
*4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2
*4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition
*DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers)
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  
WebsiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> makes it easy to find 
hosters who are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to 
provide you with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your 
sites on.
In addition to software, 
WebsiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> provides partner 
opportunities to grow and build your business  through referrals and product 
support training.
Who can get WebSiteSpark?
This is really simple:
1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others.
2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees.
If you meet these requirements you can sign up today. As part of the enrollment 
process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster or enter a 
code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie. Once you have 
that code you can enrol and start downloading the software - If you're in 
Australia you can send an email to me: 
jor...@microsoft.com<mailto:jor...@microsoft.com> and i'll hook you up - 
otherwise websp...@microsoft.com<mailto:websp...@microsoft.com> .
After 3 years?
You have no obligation to continue using the software just a $100 fee for the 
use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a decision on 
whether you're happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be part of the 
Microsoft Partner Network<https://partner.microsoft.com/global/partner>.
What's hap

RE: websitespark

[Corneliu Tusnea]

Hi Jorke,

This is an awesome initiative. Any ideas
If I understand correctly from the agreements of this it only works if you host 
websites designed for customers and not for yourself so it does not apply for 
companies that do any type of software-as-a-service type of business or not 
"custom development for a customer type".
E.g. would this apply to a service like www.twitter.com 
or www.saasu.com or similar, websites that are open to 
the public or to a set of customers but not "developed for customers"?

Also, any idea if azure hosting will be included later down the track?

Am I right in my understanding?

Thanks,
Corneliu.




From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jorke Odolphi 
[jor...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Friday, 25 September 2009 11:03 AM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: websitespark

As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)

I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark you’ll 
see that the gu has already post about 
this.
[cid:82401fc7-8482-4b28-8967-60db2fec7367] 

WebSiteSpark is aimed specifically 
at those who are developing in the web platform and we’re giving them a 
jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft Platform.
The Australian launch of 
WebSiteSpark will be on the 8th of 
October at Web Directions South – Hope to 
see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft:
•3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition
•1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web)
•2 licenses of Expression Web 3
•4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2
•4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition
•DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers)
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  
WebsiteSpark makes it easy to find 
hosters who are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to 
provide you with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your 
sites on.
In addition to software, 
WebsiteSpark provides partner 
opportunities to grow and build your business  through referrals and product 
support training.
Who can get WebSiteSpark?
This is really simple:
1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others.
2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees.
If you meet these requirements you can sign up today. As part of the enrollment 
process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster or enter a 
code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie. Once you have 
that code you can enrol and start downloading the software – If you’re in 
Australia you can send an email to me: 
jor...@microsoft.com and i’ll hook you up – 
otherwise websp...@microsoft.com .
After 3 years?
You have no obligation to continue using the software just a $100 fee for the 
use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a decision on 
whether you’re happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be part of the 
Microsoft Partner Network.
What’s happening in Australia?
The official launch of WebSiteSpark 
in Australia will be at Web Directions South 
on the 8th of October and from the start we’ve partnered with two of 
Australia’s best hosting companies to provide the network services, Melbourne 
IT (under 
WebCentral) and 
Westnet – you’ll see more information around these 
guys as they give WebSiteSpark 
participants special offers.

So as you can see this is an AWESOME initiative – and I’m very excited to be a 
part of this. If you have any questions / comments – please email me: 
jor...@microsoft.com

RE: websitespark

[Scott Barnes]

I eat lunch with the architects behind this and they have their minds in the 
right place as to why this exist. It's one of those things that just makes 
sense :)

This is going to be a massive thing for us worldwide, and I expect many things 
will orbit around this initiative, so it's the start of what I hope is positive 
things for the web industry - especially kick starting the startup within us 
all - (More on my thoughts later hehe).

I'll also be doing an interview with the guy who designed Microsoft.com/web 
next week, as its probably one of the best designed sites we have in Microsoft 
at the moment.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:09 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: websitespark

Excellent initiative.  This is a massive step towards cleaning up software 
licensing issues.  As a budding MicroISV, this means that I can easily gain 
access to the tools that I need to develop and manage my software solutions.

I'd like to learn more about the DotNetPanel control panel and I'd like to know 
why this wasn't linked to Azure in any way.

Kind Regards,

Darren Neimke
darren.nei...@live.com<mailto:darren.nei...@live.com>





From: jor...@microsoft.com
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: websitespark
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:03:02 +
As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)

I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> you'll 
see that the gu has already post about 
this.<http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-the-websitespark-program.aspx>
<http://blogs.technet.com/blogfiles/jorke/WindowsLiveWriter/AnnouncingWebSiteSparkinAustralia_14250/WebsiteSpark_Banner_2.jpg>
WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> is aimed specifically 
at those who are developing in the web platform and we're giving them a 
jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft Platform.
The Australian launch of 
WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> will be on the 8th of 
October at Web Directions South<http://south09.webdirections.org/> - Hope to 
see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft:
*3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition
*1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web)
*2 licenses of Expression Web 3
*4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2
*4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition
*DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers)
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  
WebsiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> makes it easy to find 
hosters who are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to 
provide you with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your 
sites on.
In addition to software, 
WebsiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> provides partner 
opportunities to grow and build your business  through referrals and product 
support training.
Who can get WebSiteSpark?
This is really simple:
1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others.
2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees.
If you meet these requirements you can sign up today. As part of the enrollment 
process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster or enter a 
code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie. Once you have 
that code you can enrol and start downloading the software - If you're in 
Australia you can send an email to me: 
jor...@microsoft.com<mailto:jor...@microsoft.com> and i'll hook you up - 
otherwise websp...@microsoft.com<mailto:websp...@microsoft.com> .
After 3 years?
You have no obligation to continue using the software just a $100 fee for the 
use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a decision on 
whether you're happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be part of the 
Microsoft Partner Network<https://partner.microsoft.com/global/partner>.
What's happening in Australia?
The official launch of WebSiteSpark<http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark> 
in Australia will be at Web Directions South<http://south09.webdirections.org/> 
on the 8th o

RE: websitespark

[Darren Neimke]

Excellent initiative.  This is a massive step towards cleaning up software 
licensing issues.  As a budding MicroISV, this means that I can easily gain 
access to the tools that I need to develop and manage my software solutions.

 

I'd like to learn more about the DotNetPanel control panel and I'd like to know 
why this wasn't linked to Azure in any way.

Kind Regards,
 
Darren Neimke
darren.nei...@live.com 



 


From: jor...@microsoft.com
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: websitespark
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:03:02 +




As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
 
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)
 
I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark you’ll see that the gu has already post about this.
 
WebSiteSpark is aimed specifically at those who are developing in the web 
platform and we’re giving them a jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft 
Platform.
The Australian launch of WebSiteSpark will be on the 8th of October at Web 
Directions South – Hope to see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft: 
•3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition 
•1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web) 
•2 licenses of Expression Web 3 
•4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2 
•4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition 
•DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers) 
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  WebsiteSpark makes it easy to find hosters who 
are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to provide you 
with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your sites on. 
In addition to software, WebsiteSpark provides partner opportunities to grow 
and build your business  through referrals and product support training.
Who can get WebSiteSpark?
This is really simple:
1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others. 
2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees. 
If you meet these requirements you can sign up today. As part of the enrollment 
process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster or enter a 
code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie. Once you have 
that code you can enrol and start downloading the software – If you’re in 
Australia you can send an email to me: jor...@microsoft.com and i’ll hook you 
up – otherwise websp...@microsoft.com .
After 3 years?
You have no obligation to continue using the software just a $100 fee for the 
use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a decision on 
whether you’re happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be part of the 
Microsoft Partner Network. 
What’s happening in Australia?
The official launch of WebSiteSpark in Australia will be at Web Directions 
South on the 8th of October and from the start we’ve partnered with two of 
Australia’s best hosting companies to provide the network services, Melbourne 
IT (under WebCentral) and Westnet – you’ll see more information around these 
guys as they give WebSiteSpark participants special offers.
 
So as you can see this is an AWESOME initiative – and I’m very excited to be a 
part of this. If you have any questions / comments – please email me: 
jor...@microsoft.com – follow me on twitter: @jorke and follow the 
@websitespark twitter account.
you’ll see some press releases going out today all about this :)
- jorke
 
 
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http://blogs.technet.com/jorke 
Microsoft Australia | e: jor...@microsoft.com | im: jodol...@hotmail.com|  
twitter.com/jorke 
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Re: websitespark

[Stephen Price]

This is awesome!! Thanks to MS and whoever's idea this was. :)
cheers,
Stephen

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Jorke Odolphi  wrote:

>  As per *
> http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
> *
> I would love to hear your comments.
> (apologies if duplicated)
> 
> I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at
> Microsoft for Australia; 
> *WebSiteSpark*you’ll see that the
> *gu has already post about 
> this.*
>
> 
> *WebSiteSpark*  is aimed
> specifically at those who are developing in the web platform and we’re
> giving them a jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft Platform.
> The Australian launch of 
> *WebSiteSpark*will be on the
> *8th of October* at *Web Directions 
> South*– Hope to see you there!
> So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
> *What to we give you?*
> Software licenses that you can use for *three years* *AT NO COST*.  Once
> enrolled, you can download and immediately use the following software from
> Microsoft:
> •3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition
> •1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend,
> Sketchflow, and Web)
> •2 licenses of Expression Web 3
> •4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2
> •4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition
> •DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your
> servers)
> The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development
> and production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your
> own, or use the licenses with a hoster.  
> *WebsiteSpark*makes it easy to 
> find hosters who are also enrolled in the program, and who
> can use your licenses to provide you with either dedicated or virtual
> dedicated servers to host your sites on.
> In addition to software, 
> *WebsiteSpark*provides partner 
> opportunities to grow and build your business  through
> referrals and product support training.
> *Who can get WebSiteSpark?*
> This is really simple:
> *1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others.
> **2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees. *
> If you meet these requirements *you can sign up today*. As part of the
> enrollment process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster
> or enter a code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie.
> Once you have that code you can enrol and start downloading the software –
> If you’re in Australia you can send an email to me: 
> *jor...@microsoft.com*and i’ll hook you up – otherwise
> *websp...@microsoft.com*  .
> *After 3 years?*
> You have no obligation to continue using the software just a *$100 fee*for 
> the use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a
> decision on whether you’re happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be
> part of the *Microsoft Partner 
> Network*.
>
> *What’s happening in Australia?*
> The official launch of 
> *WebSiteSpark*in Australia will be 
> at
> *Web Directions South*  on the 8th of
> October and from the start we’ve partnered with two of Australia’s best
> hosting companies to provide the network services, *Melbourne 
> IT*(under
> *WebCentral* ) and 
> *Westnet*– you’ll see more information around 
> these guys as they give
> *WebSiteSpark*  participants
> special offers.
>
> So as you can see this is an *AWESOME* initiative – and I’m very excited
> to be a part of this. If you have any questions / comments – please email
> me: *jor...@microsoft.com*  – follow me on twitter:
> *...@jorke*  and follow the 
> *...@websitespark*twitter account.
> you’ll see some press releases going out today all about this :)
> - jorke
>
>
> *Jorke Odolphi*  | Web Platform Architect
> Evangelist | *http://blogs.technet.com/jorke*
> *Microsoft Australia*  | e: *
> jor...@microsoft.com*  | im: *jodol...@hotmail.com*|
> *twitter.com/jorke* 
> +61 2 8817 9126 | +61 488717714
>
>
>
>
> __