Re: [P2P-F] Bauwens gmail account wiped clean, assistance requested

[Brent Shambaugh]

Michel, did you look in the trash?


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:

> my whole inbox is gone, i.e. all my current and to-do communications,
>
> Michel
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Brent Shambaugh <
> brent.shamba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Michel,
>>
>> I found a note about deleted messages. Could they be hiding somewhere?
>>
>>
>> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/9Dq957ChpeE[1-25-true]
>>
>> -Brent
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Michel Bauwens > > wrote:
>>
>>> My main gmail account was accessed from a belgian mobile just one hour
>>> ago and my whole account has been wiped out , i.e. from 300 backlogged
>>> emails to thousands of archived one, everything is gone.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know someone at Google that can help ?
>>>
>>>  Like <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/#> ·  · 
>>> Share<https://www.facebook.com/ajax/sharer/?s=37&appid=2309869772&p%5B0%5D=694166860627496&share_source_type=unknown>
>>>  · a few seconds 
>>> ago<https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/permalink/694166860627496/?stream_ref=2>
>>>
>>>-
>>>-  <https://www.facebook.com/mbauwens>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/#>
>>>Michel Bauwens <https://www.facebook.com/mbauwens> for info; the
>>>mobile account is Belgium (85.28.120.211)
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates:
>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
>>>
>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/
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Re: [P2P-F] Bauwens gmail account wiped clean, assistance requested

[Brent Shambaugh]

Michel,

I found a note about deleted messages. Could they be hiding somewhere?

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/9Dq957ChpeE[1-25-true]

-Brent


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:

> My main gmail account was accessed from a belgian mobile just one hour ago
> and my whole account has been wiped out , i.e. from 300 backlogged emails
> to thousands of archived one, everything is gone.
>
> Does anyone know someone at Google that can help ?
>
>  Like  ·  · 
> Share
>  · a few seconds 
> ago
>
>-
>-  
> 
>Michel Bauwens  for info; the
>mobile account is Belgium (85.28.120.211)
>
>
> --
> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
>
> Updates:
> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
>
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Re: [P2P-F] searching this list archives?

[Brent Shambaugh]

Could Lucene form an index?


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Patrick Anderson  wrote:

> A bit clunky, but you could download all the gzipped archives to your
> machine and then search on them locally.
> On Feb 5, 2014 2:27 PM, "☮ elf Pavlik ☮" 
> wrote:
>
>> hola o/
>>
>> how one can search through archives of this list without having copy of
>> them in one's own inbox?
>>
>> i can't use google with: site:lists.ourproject.org inurl:p2p-foundation
>> since archives stay protected
>>
>> suggestions appreciated :)
>>
>> thanks!
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Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Brent Shambaugh]

Hi All,

Since around mid-march or so I've spent time trying to refining the ideas
from my Distributed Economy blog (
http://www.adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/) into a proposal. I kind of
felt like I was teaching myself all of computer science. Even though I felt
I was learning quite a bit, it came at a considerable cost to myself. It is
hard to think in a peer-to-peer fashion while questioning the fabric of
academia and industry. I felt that I did not fit in anywhere and was unsure
build a business model around it. Physically, it seemed that way too. I
also became very cynical. I grew isolated, but thought I needed time for
self-study so what I was writing was credible, competitive and lucid enough
that I could put faith in it to be confident with others. Still, it's scope
was huge, enough to be not taken seriously by itself I guess. I felt I
basically was trying to change the operating system of the planet, and
everything else was built on top of that (businesses, academia, etc...).
Was the value network the business model? That, and maybe support? Do I
just try to start something like Linux and hope for the best? That's the
sort of scale I was envisioning. Fortunately, the web efforts have done a
lot of the groundwork. It's more of a use then. It's hard to say I did much
beyond understanding and some aggregation of connections that others might
not have seen. People tell you to hold on to some things in private, while
at the same time you want to integrate with the rest of the community.
Maybe what I have is significant, maybe it is not. It would be great to
share it. I believe enough in it to think it could help people. I'm almost
done with what seems to resemble a 20 page outline. I do not want to
fragment the community (or be fragmented from it), but at the same time I
need some sustainable way to survive. Paradoxically, it seems it needs the
support and the efforts and the ideas of the community to succeed. Are
there any solutions? I'm sorry if I come off as arrogant in any way.

-Brent


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Eric
>
> Yes, I'd be glad to follow up on the thinking and research you are doing
> around metacurrency, and participate in the scheduled hang out.
>
> further note :
> an interesting reply by June on this thread,
> also available on the public p2pf list archive
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/
>
>
>- [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
> !
> Dante-Gabryell Monson
>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
> !
>June Gorman
>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
> !
>Dante-Gabryell Monson
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Eric Harris-Braun 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It turns out that where the technical side of the MetaCurrency Project
>> has led us has lots to do with Semantic Data or rather, from our point of
>> view, Semantic Computing.  Ceptr, the computing stack we are designing to
>> build our tools out of, pushes Semantics down into the lowest levels of the
>> stack, in a way that we haven't seen with the approaches inherent embodied
>> in RDF/URI.
>>
>> For folks interested in our approach, I'm scheduling a tech hang-out in
>> the next week or two. If you want to be notified of it please drop me a
>> line.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *pre-note : I try to understand if we can , possibly collectively, *
>>> *write an article that could be published on the p2pfoundation blog,*
>>> *as to better explain, in words and with images / graphics , *
>>> *some of the potentials of building on, for example, Linked Data -
>>> and/or similar technologies enabling us to more easily redefine our
>>> realities collectively -*
>>>
>>>
>>> *If anyone wrote on these topics, or is interested in combining our
>>> efforts and research in writing about these topics, or if some can help in
>>> making such article in a enjoyable reading moment ( combining it with nice
>>> imagery and stories ? Like some science fiction authors manage to do - yet
>>> talking about the present ? ) it would be great.   I mean, not only about
>>> one specific application or project, but about the potential to work
>>> together on various applications based on common protocols. *
>>>
>>> *Some call it a "Global Brain" , or a "Web Operating System" , ... *
>>>
>>> *Below is what I want to say to open 

Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Brent Shambaugh]

Sure. Thanks Dante. Thanks Michel for the link!


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Brent,
>
> there is some convergence happening via
>
> http://bwcd.vdcn.org/doku.php
>
> *" Let's get some cool people together and live in a tribe / family / team
> / intentional community. Experiment with better ways to live, and make the
> world a cooler place. We'll work together to survive and look after each
> other. "*
>
> Email :
>
> http://bwcd.vdcn.org/doku.php/email_list
>
> ///
>
> Further approaches can be discussed there ?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Michel Bauwens  > wrote:
>
>> hi Brent, I have aggregated the wide variety of open business models at
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Business_Models
>>
>> not only are there solutions, but there are plenty of solutions, the key
>> question is of course finding the one that fits with your particular
>> project ...
>>
>> but the general scheme, building a community around a commons, and create
>> a market entity around it (such as a coop), works well
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Brent Shambaugh <
>> brent.shamba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Since around mid-march or so I've spent time trying to refining the
>>> ideas from my Distributed Economy blog (
>>> http://www.adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/) into a proposal. I kind
>>> of felt like I was teaching myself all of computer science. Even though I
>>> felt I was learning quite a bit, it came at a considerable cost to myself.
>>> It is hard to think in a peer-to-peer fashion while questioning the fabric
>>> of academia and industry. I felt that I did not fit in anywhere and was
>>> unsure build a business model around it. Physically, it seemed that way
>>> too. I also became very cynical. I grew isolated, but thought I needed time
>>> for self-study so what I was writing was credible, competitive and lucid
>>> enough that I could put faith in it to be confident with others. Still,
>>> it's scope was huge, enough to be not taken seriously by itself I guess. I
>>> felt I basically was trying to change the operating system of the planet,
>>> and everything else was built on top of that (businesses, academia,
>>> etc...). Was the value network the business model? That, and maybe support?
>>> Do I just try to start something like Linux and hope for the best? That's
>>> the sort of scale I was envisioning. Fortunately, the web efforts have done
>>> a lot of the groundwork. It's more of a use then. It's hard to say I did
>>> much beyond understanding and some aggregation of connections that others
>>> might not have seen. People tell you to hold on to some things in private,
>>> while at the same time you want to integrate with the rest of the
>>> community. Maybe what I have is significant, maybe it is not. It would be
>>> great to share it. I believe enough in it to think it could help people.
>>> I'm almost done with what seems to resemble a 20 page outline. I do not
>>> want to fragment the community (or be fragmented from it), but at the same
>>> time I need some sustainable way to survive. Paradoxically, it seems it
>>> needs the support and the efforts and the ideas of the community to
>>> succeed. Are there any solutions? I'm sorry if I come off as arrogant in
>>> any way.
>>>
>>> -Brent
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Eric
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I'd be glad to follow up on the thinking and research you are
>>>> doing around metacurrency, and participate in the scheduled hang out.
>>>>
>>>> further note :
>>>> an interesting reply by June on this thread,
>>>> also available on the public p2pf list archive
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>>>>understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
>>>> !<http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/msg01085.html>
>>>> Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>>>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested
>>>>

Re: [P2P-F] Pascal Jollivet : "Open Labs and Complex City"

[Brent Shambaugh]

Awesome, I like this. Keeping track of projects reminds me of what I
put in my blog awhile back.

http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/2012/03/knowledge-discovery-with-semantic-web.html

I hope it helps. I copied this thread over to Sensorica and the
Community I/O Community Group on the W3C site. They might like it too.

-Brent

2013/5/13 Dante-Gabryell Monson :
> 4 minute Interview in French
>
> https://soundcloud.com/hackyourphd/hyphd-au-quebec-pascal-jollivet-recherche-complex-city
>
> some keywords : "open labs" , "complex city" ,  ... "L'idée est de créer une
> ville participative et contributive. Le projet est de faire un jeu sérieux
> massif alterné. "
>
> ...
>
> ///
>
> Pascal Jollivet professeur à L'Université Technologique de Compiègne (UTC)
> et chercheur au Laboratoire COSTECH dans le groupe CRI (Coopération Risque
> Innovation)
>
> Présentation de Netgraph lors du colloque la révolution de la science
> ouverte
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbxUGP8ymzc
>
> Extraits :
> "Ce qui ne va pas dans la recherche aujourd'hui, c'est le conformisme et le
> formatage des chercheurs. Ils sont souvent sélectionnés sur le critère de
> leur conformisme."
> "La recherche doit être plus enchâssée dans la société, moins hors sol,
> moins en parallèle sans toucher les enjeux sociaux"
> "les open labs sont de belles initiatives. Par exemple, il y a le projet
> sino-européen que nous montons- complex city-
> L'idée est de créer une ville participative et contributive. Le projet est
> de faire un jeu sérieux massif alterné.
> Les bâtiments sont déjà modélisés en 3D. Avant d'être construits, les gens
> vont pouvoir vivre virtuellement dans la ville en réalité alternée"
> moodle.utc.fr/file.php/7/DD01_20…nd_cities-_1.2.pdf
>
> Note: science société/ chercheur (individu) / science participative
>
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Re: [P2P-F] open_udc - information

[Brent Shambaugh]

The reference is here?

http://wiki.creationmonetaire.info/index.php?title=Main_Page#Le_texte_de_la_TRM_2.718

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
 wrote:
> Where can I find information about it? I would like the original paper of
> TRM or a simple explanation of what it does.
> The three principles I have found are very vague, Time and space symmetry
> are vague as well.
>
> I wanted to review open_udc for a long time but I couldnt.
>
> It has nothing to do with bitcoin other than using encryption. Does it use
> block chain? I think not.
>
> I dont think it would be good to promote open_udc by invalidating bitcoin,
> except if open_udc can replace bitcoin in all its use cases.
>
> By the way, I found about it because of openpgp.js , an implementation of
> pgp in javascript.
>
> PGP is the future for identity authentication.
>
> --
>
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
>  Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
>
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[P2P-F] Seeking Job Opportunities embodying the P2P Philosophy

[Brent Shambaugh]

Dear all,

I promised someone I'd look for a job. Please forgive me if it is out of
place.

I'm looking for opportunities that would allow me to pursue a P2P
philosophy. This has been challenging. I have a MS in Chemical Engineering
with a focus on polymer processing.
I have a blog: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/ that I have been
working on. I am forcing myself to narrow things down. Right now I feel
visual interfaces (e.g. http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-694/) and Webpayments (e.g.
Payswarm and Ripple) are most important.

My LinkedIN profile is:

www.linkedin.com/pub/brent-shambaugh/9/125/9b9/

-- 
Brent Shambaugh

I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching how
to build better economies.
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Re: [P2P-F] Boon's Easter message

[Brent Shambaugh]

Boon,

Fortunately you are not alone. There are some things in the works such as
StratML<1>,<2> and the Provenance Incubator Group at the W3C <3>,<4> that
strive to iron out inefficiencies. There is also the EU's growth strategy
called Europe 2020 <5> to improve research, education and job growth. They
appear willing to think differently. And of course many other things. The
future should be interesting, to say the least.

<1> http://xml.fido.gov/stratml/
<2>  http://stratml.hyperbase.com/
<3> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Main_Page
<4>
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/images/0/02/Provenance-XG-Overview.pdf
<5> http://ec.europa.eu/europe2020/index_en.htm


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:

>
> Thanks for sharing Boon. I'm currently on the road. Like you, I'm hoping
> for forces and energies thqt will translate the p2p paradigm and solutions
> for the greater number. In the meantime, I do what I can to translate what
> is happening on the ground for the 30k people that visit us everyday and
> for the 22m that have used our wiki as reference site. My experience is
> that more and more people understand what it is about though. If you think
> how arcane religions like christianity and obtruse philosophies like
> marxism could be become world-forces, we can trust that this translation
> work will happen if humanity believes it needs it.
>
> Michel
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Re: [P2P-F] The Producism Manifesto - Sample Chapters

[Brent Shambaugh]

Kevin,

I noticed Producia. Having a site that allows people to use a time-based
currency to exchange in a system is an excellent idea to get people to work
together when they don't have a lot of money, but need experience. Thanks
for sharing.

-Brent

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Kevin Carson <
free.market.anticapital...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A lot of you will probably find Drew Little's producism alt economy
> model of interest:
>
> http://checkthis.com/producism
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