Re: WinScreenLock help
As you saw I am effectively handling the case where null is returned and I still get a lockup. This is madening as I don't know any other way to avoir flickering when the os is drawing the form (FrmDrawForm). Also as it was Ben Combee who initially see: http://news.palmos.com/read/messages?id=175569#175569 I think this is supposed to be working. Best regards Benoit PS: by the way in the code posted above you should replace WinScreenLockPadict by WinScreenLock and WinScreenUnlockPadict by WinScreenUnlock. Seeing the above mentioned problem I am trying (unsuccessfully) to replace those APIs by another version. the lockup occurs with the standard APIs -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Interview with PalmSource CEO
It's for porn filtering. You're not going to be able to sell a phone without porn filtering if all the ninny groups pressure the FCC into rules about it. Unfortunate victim will be indie developers huh. Drag. :( Gary Douglas --- Cory Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you might find this interview with David Nagel interesting: http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/02/14/HNpalmsourceceo_1.html He remarks on future plans for Linux and Cobalt. If I understand correctly, Cobalt will be there (probably as a translation between the API's and the Linux kernel), but the apps are being ported to Linux (probably for the improved driver support). It would be interesting to see some sample code. He also goes on to say that smartphone apps will have to be signed by the wireless carrier to be able to load them. As a developer and a user I think this stinks. Even if it stops piracy, it still stinks. How does this make the OS more secure? Any exploit anywhere in the system can still infect any app with a virus. This could also be used to censor naughty apps or any apps that compete with the carrier's services (i.e. VOIP). This looks like just another money grab for the carriers. Do you have to get every last update signed? What happens when someone buys from PalmGear but can't load it, etc. I'm outraged at the extent to which PalmSource is doing the carrier's bidding at the expense of the consumer. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Palm Library SQL
Miguel Fernandes wrote: Does anyone knows if there is a library with SQL commands to connect to a remote DataBase. Found this for MySql: http://solutions.mysql.com/software/?item=145 -- Find my ResToXrd converter at one of these sites http://www.shoplagom.com/developer_all.asp?devid=2 http://www.trelje.nu/palm/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
VFS block size?
I'm implementing an n-ary tree stored on VFS. The algorithm's performance is optimized when n is the max number of nodes that fit into the file system's block size. With a reader, I've checked the properties of a couple small files: my 128 MByte SD card has a block size of 2 KByte and my 256 MByte SD card has a block size of 4 KByte. With PalmOS 5, is there a way to determine block size programmatically? Cheers, Greg -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Memory Segmentation
Hi, I am looking for some documentation on memory segmentation, specifically the .text, .data , and .bss sections. I am wondering what goes into those sections and how to control that. I have not been able to find anything on that in my books or the Palm Doc's. Thanks Jeff -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Palm os limited source
Hi, I'm almost sure there used to be a place where a limited portion of the palmos source could be downloaded for members of the developer program. I cannot find it anymore. Is it still possible? Best regards Benoit Cerrina -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Palm Library SQL
Thank you, I have already that one for MySql but what I am looking for is for SQL Server. Do you known any? On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:55:29 +0100, Per Trelje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miguel Fernandes wrote: Does anyone knows if there is a library with SQL commands to connect to a remote DataBase. Found this for MySql: http://solutions.mysql.com/software/?item=145 -- Find my ResToXrd converter at one of these sites http://www.shoplagom.com/developer_all.asp?devid=2 http://www.trelje.nu/palm/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Send and receive data over the USB port
Hi, I am developing an application that requires me to send and recieve data from a server. I know that it is possible to do this via the serial port but i have a PDA with USB port. How do I go about this in the PDA? Is there a USB driver software package or example code somewhere? Thanking in advance, Kieran -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
about palmos and linux
I can use palm desktop and conduit on Windows platform to synchronize between PC and Palm device. Now I want to do it on Linux platform.Who can give me a good solution?How do I develop it? Thanks. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Resizing Tables
Hello everybody, currently I'm adding DIA-Support to an Legacy-Application. I've managed the first part with the resize-Lib from palmresize.sourceforge.net . But now i have a strange Problem with resizing Tables. There is no Problem to change the width in Landscape-Mode. But the Table won't work correctly if i assing a new Height with TblSetBounds. It still draws the old amount of Rows. How do I say that it should draw more Rows? Best regards Stefan Stolz -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
How Do I Detect Tungsten T3 or T5 button bar at bottom
Is there a way to detect whether a device has a palmOne status bar? I know that I can detect for a T3 or a T5 but I want to make it more generic. Also, is there a way to detect where the status bar is, i.e. bottom left or right? Thanks, Mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Interview with PalmSource CEO
Logan Shaw wrote: I didn't quite get that out of the interview. It seems to me that he just badly phrased that one part that makes it sound like the apps will target Linux specifically, and instead he meant that they are porting the whole shebang (Cobalt plus apps) as a unit to Linux. That is, that the apps will run on top of Linux but not directly on top of Linux and instead on top of Linux via Cobalt. I agree that would make the most sense but, who knows, maybe HotSync needs direct access to /dev/usb or something. It may just be another money grab for carriers. But, bottom line is, Palm(Source|One) NEEDS to get into the smartphone market, and not just with $600 niche devices that the average joe will never buy. The smartphone market is slowly eating away at the PDA market. Yes, but in five years we could be forever locked into this system as traditional PDAs disappear and smartphones prolificate. Anyway, carriers like to tightly control software installation on their customer's phones. It saves them from dealing with lots of support calls, and in addition to that, if something goes wrong with I understand their need to reduce problems with incompatible software and their right to design their product as they see fit, but there has to be a better way. Why should we trust the carriers not to abuse this power to eliminate competitive products like VOIP or WiFi? Why should anyone get to say what I can and can't load on MY device? A better solution would be to have an independent third party sign the apps. Furthermore, what will become of freeware? Surely, there will be some developers that can't afford to get signed and others who will refuse on principal (such as free open-source software developers). Afterall, I can't name a single freeware title for Xbox, Nintendo, or PlayStation (exempting Xbox Linux which required an exploitable 007 Goldeneye disc or an illegal chip). HOPEFULLY what the PalmSource CEO said really translates to, we support a method whereby BY DEFAULT only signed apps can be installed, although the user can choose to install unsigned apps as well. I believe the Tapwave Zodiac has a system similar to that, where they have signed apps but you can also install regular plain Palm OS as well if you want to. Hopefully. But if you're wrong, the time to act is now - before devices start to ship. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Resizing Tables
Stefan Stolz wrote: Hello everybody, currently I'm adding DIA-Support to an Legacy-Application. I've managed the first part with the resize-Lib from palmresize.sourceforge.net . But now i have a strange Problem with resizing Tables. There is no Problem to change the width in Landscape-Mode. But the Table won't work correctly if i assing a new Height with TblSetBounds. It still draws the old amount of Rows. How do I say that it should draw more Rows? IIRC, you have to define more rows in the resource file. The table will display only the neccessary number of rows to fill its space. -- - Henk Jonas Palm OS ® certified developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.metaviewsoft.de - -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Interview with PalmSource CEO
Craig Likes wrote: Didn't get this out of the article. In the article it states a supported capability, it mentions nothing that I can find on a requirement but I could have missed something Nagel: We support a capability for signed code True. And that IS an important distinction. But it's a capability the carriers would be crazy to pass up. Heck, they were probably the impetus for it to begin with. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: about palmos and linux
Armada.li wrote: I can use palm desktop and conduit on Windows platform to synchronize between PC and Palm device. Now I want to do it on Linux platform.Who can give me a good solution?How do I develop it? Thanks. I've used JPilot for years. If you are a developer, you probably want pilot-link too for quickly installing apps on a device. In fact I even put it in my makefile: .PHONY install install: export PILOTRATE=H115200 ; pilot-xfer --port /dev/pilot --install file.prc Of course your device may be /dev/ttyS0 (for the first serial port) or /dev/usb, or something else. I just created a symbolic link in the /dev directory from /dev/ttyS0 to /dev/pilot. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Memory Segmentation
Jeff Collett wrote: Hi, I am looking for some documentation on memory segmentation, specifically the .text, .data , and .bss sections. I am wondering what goes into those sections and how to control that. I have not been able to find anything on that in my books or the Palm Doc's. Thanks Jeff It's been a long time, but I think this is documented in the Motorola 68K family assembly manual. Basically, .text is constant code (strings, code, etc.), .data is for non-const variables, and .bss stands for Block Started by Symbol and contains uninitialized variables. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
get phone number for Treo600 CDMA
Hi guys, I know this question was asked and answered here before. But my login is not working so I could not access the forum messages. Can any one help me with the API call to access the phone number for CDNA Treo600 phone. Actually, I am trying to access the ESN number using, PhnLibCardInfo (refrnceNum,0,0,version,serial); but as it is not working, as an alternative I am trying to grab the phone number. Please help, Keyur -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: How to store a program selection (like in Prefs button assignments)?
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:13:19 -, Luc Le Blanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the quickest way to get the name of the application that has this creatorID (to display it in the popup trigger when displaying my pref form)? DmGetNextDatabaseByTypeCreator followed by DmDatabaseInfo? Or is there a better option? Actually, Luc, that is the *quickest* way, and the easiest to code, but I'd probably open each in turn and load the 'tAIN' resource from each, to display the name that the user is used to seeing in the Launcher. I know it's slower that way, but it would be a little more user-friendly. I write exclusively for newer devices, though, and if I were targetting a Palm III, I might reconsider this approach. Just figured I'd present you with the option. Well, for the sake of completing this thread, here's the final result of my readings: the simple solution is to create the list of applications with SysCreateDatabaseList, setting its last (loopupName) parameter to true, which then forces the automatic lookup of a tAIN resource, thus returning the names that get displayed in the Launcher. This is the list I use to associate with my popup trigger. Using the tAIN resource does make a difference in some cases (e.g. the built-in app Welcome would otherwise appear as Setup). When I first initialize the popup trigger text, I call DmGetNextDatabaseByCreator with the stored creatorID, open the DB, get its tAIN 1000 resource (if any) and use that string (or the DB name if the tAIN resource is missing). Am I right to assume that if a tAIN resource is present, it must be numbered 1000? -- Luc Le Blanc -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Memory Segmentation
Thanks. I will see if I can find some Motorola info. Thought it might be contained in Palm Doc's somewhere. I did find a file in Falch that was somewhat helpfull. Jeff Cory Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] vealgorithms.com To Sent by: Palm Developer Forum bounce-405685-773 palm-dev-forum@news.palmos.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc m Subject Re: Memory Segmentation 02/17/2005 10:26 AM Please respond to Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] ews.palmos.com Jeff Collett wrote: Hi, I am looking for some documentation on memory segmentation, specifically the .text, .data , and .bss sections. I am wondering what goes into those sections and how to control that. I have not been able to find anything on that in my books or the Palm Doc's. Thanks Jeff It's been a long time, but I think this is documented in the Motorola 68K family assembly manual. Basically, .text is constant code (strings, code, etc.), .data is for non-const variables, and .bss stands for Block Started by Symbol and contains uninitialized variables. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ Although this e-mail and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect which might affect any computer system, it is the responsibility of the recipient to check that it is virus-free and the sender accepts no responsibility or liability for any loss, injury, damage, cost or expense arising in any way from receipt or use thereof by the recipient. The information contained in this electronic mail message is confidential information and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above, and may be privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately, delete this material from your computer and destroy all related paper media. Please note that the documents transmitted are not intended to be binding until a hard copy has been manually signed by all parties. Thank you. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: How to store a program selection (like in Prefs button assignments)?
Am I right to assume that if a tAIN resource is present, it must be numbered 1000? It also could be numbered with 'tAIN' ID 1. ID 1000 has priority if an application has both resources. -- Ben Combee, Senior Software Engineer, palmOne, Inc. Combee on Palm OS weblog: http://palmos.combee.net/ Developer Forum Archives: http://news.palmos.com/read/all_forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
fonts txt
hi hi! i searched the forum and i noticed that i need txt files for custom forms, where do i get the txt file for pilrc fonts? i found a 5x11.txt in the examples, where can i get others? -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
RE: get phone/IMEI/ESM/IMSI number for Treo6xx
This is what we've encountered while looking for
phone identity on Treo 6xx:
1. If the phone is type hsAttrPhoneTypeCDMA (see
HsAttrGet(hsAttrPhoneType)):
// Treo 600 returns ESN
// Treo 650 crashes!
char *pEsn;
PhnLibCardInfoEx(telRefNum,0,0,0,pEsn,0,0,0,0);
2. If the phone is type hsAttrPhoneTypeGSM:
// Treo 600 returns IMEI and IMSI
// Treo 650 - don't know what happens (don't have one)
char *pImei,*pImsi;
PhnLibCardInfo(telRefNum,0,0,0,pImei);
PhnLibSIMInfo(telRefNum,pImsi);
Code to retrieve phone number:
// The own phone number is the first in the own numbers list.
// NOTE: The phone number is not always available right away.
// For example, a GSM phone number is not available until the SIM
// is queried, as much as 30-60 seconds after the phone is powered.
{
PhnAddressList list;
PhnAddressHandle address;
UInt16 count;
UInt32 phoneType;
Char *pPhoneNumber = 0;
// Get number list
if (PhnLibGetOwnNumbers(telRefNum,list) == 0)
{
// How many entries in the list?
if (PhnLibCount(telRefNum, list, count) == 0 count 0)
{
// Need the phone type, as it changes the API
HsAttrGet(hsAttrPhoneType,0,phoneType);
// Retrieve the 1st entry from the list
if (phoneType == hsAttrPhoneTypeCDMA)
err = PhnLibAPGetNth(telRefNum, list, 1, address);
else
err = PhnLibGetNth(telRefNum, list, 1, address);
if (err == 0)
{
// Extract the phone number from the entry.
// The returned phone number is a pointer to
// a malloc'd piece of memory which must
// be free'd after use.
if (phoneType == hsAttrPhoneTypeCDMA)
pPhoneNumber = PhnLibAPGetField(telRefNum,
address, phnAddrFldPhone);
else
pPhoneNumber = PhnLibGetField(telRefNum,
address, phnAddrFldPhone);
// Free the address handle
MemHandleFree(address);
}
}
// Deallocate the list
PhnLibDisposeAddressList(telRefNum,list);
}
return pPhoneNumber;
}
Jeff Loucks
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-Original Message-
From: Keyur Patwa
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:00 AM
To: Palm Developer Forum
Subject: get phone number for Treo600 CDMA
Hi guys,
I know this question was asked and answered here before.
But my login is not working so I could not access the forum messages.
Can any one help me with the API call to access the phone number for CDNA
Treo600 phone.
Actually, I am trying to access the ESN number using,
PhnLibCardInfo (refrnceNum,0,0,version,serial);
but as it is not working, as an alternative I am trying to grab the phone
number.
Please help,
Keyur
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Re: Display pics on Palm OS
Stefan Stolz wrote: For Jpeg have a look at http://www.bin-people.de/pnoJpegLib/ Wow, that looks great, thanks! I've added that to the Palm OS Development Tools List: http://flippinbits.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentToolsList at the Palm OS Development FAQ TWiki site: http://flippinbits.com/twiki/bin/view/FAQ/WebHome I also realized that it was really hard (for me at least) to locate the Development Tools List page from other pages on the FAQ site, so I added it to the root DevelopmentTools page: http://flippinbits.com/twiki/bin/view/FAQ/RootIDevelopmentTools -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Form must be full width - why?
On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:15 AM, Ben Combee wrote: At 11:52 PM 2/15/2005, Curtis Cameron wrote: I'm relatively new to Palm programming, and one of the projects I've done is a little utility used by me and maybe a couple of other people. It displays a modal dialog in the middle of the display, about 3/4 the width and the height of the full diplay. Also, it's a 68000 app if that matters. It runs fine on a real device, but the emulator is always telling me that the modal dialog must be full width. I can't say that I understand the reason for this. Can someone educate me? The Palm OS UI model says that dialogs are always the full width of the screen and bottom justified. This makes it simpler to redraw the screen if dialogs are stacked on top of each other, and it keeps the displays consistent. For what it's worth... One of the original reasons for this UI guideline (which dates back to Palm OS 1.0 in 1996) is that by having all dialogs stacked at the bottom edge of the display and occupying the full-width, the only buttons that are visible and therefore available to the user will be for the top-most dialog. If the top-most dialog isn't sitting at the bottom edge, or isn't full-width, then there's a chance that other (currently unavailable) buttons may be visible (from the base form or other dialogs) and that could be confusing to the user, or at least visually distracting. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Display pics on Palm OS
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:31:13 -0800, Steve Lemke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Stolz wrote: For Jpeg have a look at http://www.bin-people.de/pnoJpegLib/ Wow, that looks great, thanks! Where can I sign this? ;) Esp. a very good performance! (though I'd also like to thank Yves for his initial release) -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Signature2 quality
Any way to increase the quality of the signature of the 1-bit bitmap in the example for signature for OS = 5.2? Curves get straightened, so I'm not sure if they pass for a legal document. I tried increasing pixel depth and density, using a V3 bit map, but I that seem to have any effect. Thanks, Ian Baxter. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Signature2 quality
Ian, Have you tried averaging the pen position over a number of steps? I found with my drawing program, it gave much smoother lines than just taking the absolute position each time. Chris. - Protected by: http://mail.spaminspector.com - Original Message - From: IanB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: palm-dev-forum To: Palm Developer Forum palm-dev-forum@news.palmos.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:32 PM Subject: Signature2 quality Any way to increase the quality of the signature of the 1-bit bitmap in the example for signature for OS = 5.2? Curves get straightened, so I'm not sure if they pass for a legal document. I tried increasing pixel depth and density, using a V3 bit map, but I that seem to have any effect. Thanks, Ian Baxter. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Signature2 quality
Chris Brooks wrote: Have you tried averaging the pen position over a number of steps? I'm not sure, but it sounds like he's not getting enough resolution. Ian, although I've never tried this myself, maybe you could try a curve fitting algorithm (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CurveFitting.html) like least squares (esp. the polynomial version). -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Signature2 quality
At 04:32 PM 2/17/2005, you wrote: Any way to increase the quality of the signature of the 1-bit bitmap in the example for signature for OS = 5.2? Curves get straightened, so I'm not sure if they pass for a legal document. I tried increasing pixel depth and density, using a V3 bit map, but I that seem to have any effect. The curve straightening may be a result of the code taking too long to run. All drawing is done to an off-screen buffer which is then blitted back to the screen, and on some devices that takes long enough to add a bit of delay between pen readings. I originally just drew lines both to the screen and to the buffer on each pen move, but that was problematic, as the on-screen lines were being drawn at double-density, while the off-screen buffer was single-density, so the on-screen image didn't match up. But, you've got full code there. Try things out and see what works for you. -- Ben Combee, Senior Software Engineer, palmOne, Inc. Combee on Palm OS weblog: http://palmos.combee.net/ Developer Forum Archives: http://news.palmos.com/read/all_forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: VFS block size?
I'll assume block size = capacity / 2**16 Cheers, Greg Greg Sepesi wrote: I'm implementing an n-ary tree stored on VFS. The algorithm's performance is optimized when n is the max number of nodes that fit into the file system's block size. With a reader, I've checked the properties of a couple small files: my 128 MByte SD card has a block size of 2 KByte and my 256 MByte SD card has a block size of 4 KByte. With PalmOS 5, is there a way to determine block size programmatically? Cheers, Greg -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
re: skins
What you need to do is go to the Palm developer site, and follow the download links as if you're going to download the Emulator (which of course, you already have). This will eventually take you to a page that offers a .zip file filled with skins. This does not include the Handspring skins. I got these from Handspring when they were a separate company, but don't know where someone would get them today. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
PNOlet question
Its my understanding that legacy Palm apps (m68k) are limited to jumps of 32767 bytes or less, as a signed 16-bit integer is used to represent the jump offset in the compiled code, limiting code resources to roughly 32k, more if you're careful about what order your functions are stored in. Is native ARM code handled the same way, or are 32-bit values used for jump offsets? I'm using the Metrowerks PNOLoader library to patch together a half-meg of THUMB code, and I just wanted to make sure that I should be able to call functions freely within it. I've seen this technique used for PNOlets several megs in size, and I have a hard time imagining that the author went through and structured everything such that no piece of code ever called another piece of code more than 32767 bytes away. Just hoping someone can either verify that this is correct, or perhaps point me in the right direction if I've got it all wrong. Thanks all, Brandon -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: Writing my Own WinScreenLock
Sorry but I don't see the difference between Damir's and Mike's solution. The problem in the case of Mike is that FrmDrawForm is changing the draw window (at least this is how it looks like when I use it on the emulator and simulator). I think that this is not the correct behavior for this API (or at least it should be documented. But there is not much to do to go around it. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: PNOlet question
Brandon Roberson wrote: Its my understanding that legacy Palm apps (m68k) are limited to jumps of 32767 bytes or less, as a signed 16-bit integer is used to represent the jump offset in the compiled code, limiting code resources to roughly 32k, more if you're careful about what order your functions are stored in. I think this is true only if you use the Small code model rather than the Smart code model. The Smart code model should make larger jumps possible, although because of the 64K limitation, in practice you just think of it as 64K even if you have Smart mode turned on. Is native ARM code handled the same way, or are 32-bit values used for jump offsets? I'm using the Metrowerks PNOLoader library to patch together a half-meg of THUMB code, and I just wanted to make sure that I should be able to call functions freely within it. I've seen this technique used for PNOlets several megs in size, and I have a hard time imagining that the author went through and structured everything such that no piece of code ever called another piece of code more than 32767 bytes away. You can find some documentation at www.arm.com. They have a quick reference guide to the Thumb instruction set (available at http://www.arm.com/pdfs/QRC0001H_rvct_v2.1_thumb.pdf ), and it shows 6 different conditional and unconditional branch instructions. Branches are either relative or to the address in a given register. I assume all compilers that produce PNOs use relative branches exclusively within the PNO. There are four relative branch Thumb instructions, and the ranges they use are: [-252,+258] for conditional short branch, [-2kB,+2kB] for unconditional short branch, and [-4MB,+4MB] for the two types of long relative branches. Therefore, it seems safe to assume that if a PNO with a 3K branch is OK, then a PNO with a 3.99MB branch is also OK, since they would have to use the same mechanism. (At least, barring some weird compiler behavior like computing its own branch destinations and then loading that into a register, but that seems costly and pointless given what instructions are available within Thumb.) - Logan -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: PNOlet question
Thanks a bunch, Logan. That means the problems I'm seeing in my app might actually be caused by something I can fix; always a Good Thing. Brandon On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:55:13 -0600, Logan Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brandon Roberson wrote: Its my understanding that legacy Palm apps (m68k) are limited to jumps of 32767 bytes or less, as a signed 16-bit integer is used to represent the jump offset in the compiled code, limiting code resources to roughly 32k, more if you're careful about what order your functions are stored in. I think this is true only if you use the Small code model rather than the Smart code model. The Smart code model should make larger jumps possible, although because of the 64K limitation, in practice you just think of it as 64K even if you have Smart mode turned on. Is native ARM code handled the same way, or are 32-bit values used for jump offsets? I'm using the Metrowerks PNOLoader library to patch together a half-meg of THUMB code, and I just wanted to make sure that I should be able to call functions freely within it. I've seen this technique used for PNOlets several megs in size, and I have a hard time imagining that the author went through and structured everything such that no piece of code ever called another piece of code more than 32767 bytes away. You can find some documentation at www.arm.com. They have a quick reference guide to the Thumb instruction set (available at http://www.arm.com/pdfs/QRC0001H_rvct_v2.1_thumb.pdf ), and it shows 6 different conditional and unconditional branch instructions. Branches are either relative or to the address in a given register. I assume all compilers that produce PNOs use relative branches exclusively within the PNO. There are four relative branch Thumb instructions, and the ranges they use are: [-252,+258] for conditional short branch, [-2kB,+2kB] for unconditional short branch, and [-4MB,+4MB] for the two types of long relative branches. Therefore, it seems safe to assume that if a PNO with a 3K branch is OK, then a PNO with a 3.99MB branch is also OK, since they would have to use the same mechanism. (At least, barring some weird compiler behavior like computing its own branch destinations and then loading that into a register, but that seems costly and pointless given what instructions are available within Thumb.) - Logan -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: fonts txt
Use PiFont which is part of the PiBuilder program to create your Palm Font txt files (traditionally the text files have an extension of (*.pfn)). You can download it from http://pibuilder.sourceforge.net/ LionScribe Yuen Kwee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] hi hi! i searched the forum and i noticed that i need txt files for custom forms, where do i get the txt file for pilrc fonts? i found a 5x11.txt in the examples, where can i get others? -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
problem in WCA
Hi, I have created a link in my web page for a URl . When i click on this URl i get an error nonexistant DNS name (Net 123E) I think proxy server is not working fine thats why i m getting this error. Plz help. Thanx and regards, Priya Gupta Disclaimer :- This e-mail message including any attachment may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. It should not be used by who is not the original intended recipient. If you have erroneously received this message, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited from using, coping, altering or disclosing the content of this message. Please delete it immediately and notify the sender. Newgen Software Technologies Ltd and / or its subsidiary Companies accept no responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of the information transmitted by this email including damage from virus and further acknowledges that any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and no binding nature of the message shall be implied or assumed unless the sender does so expressly with due authority of Newgen Software Technologies Ltd and / or its subsidiary Companies, as applicable. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
Re: problem in WCA
Palm.net service is no longer working. You can't use WCA online.( WCA with only off line contents may work.) At 13:02 05/02/18 +0530, priya wrote: Hi, I have created a link in my web page for a URl . When i click on this URl i get an error nonexistant DNS name (Net 123E) I think proxy server is not working fine thats why i m getting this error. Plz help. Thanx and regards, Priya Gupta Disclaimer :- This e-mail message including any attachment may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. It should not be used by who is not the original intended recipient. If you have erroneously received this message, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited from using, coping, altering or disclosing the content of this message. Please delete it immediately and notify the sender. Newgen Software Technologies Ltd and / or its subsidiary Companies accept no responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of the information transmitted by this email including damage from virus and further acknowledges that any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and no binding nature of the message shall be implied or assumed unless the sender does so expressly with due authority of Newgen Software Technologies Ltd and / or its subsidiary Companies, as applicable. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ YAMADA Tatsushi Hacker Dude-san http://simple-palm.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/
