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Cde Ndebele, Seroke and Nkrumah Thami ka plaatjie penned an open letter to Julias Malema wherein he pleaded with him not to form a new rival political formation against the ANC. In his letter he wrote Angry with the ANC and disgusted by the extent to which the communists had infiltrated its ranks, a crop of youth leaguers based in Orlando broke ranks with the ANC in 1958. Before they could finalise their decision they approached AP Mda, one of the founders of the ANC Youth League and a close alter-ego of Anton Lembede, for counsel. Mda advised that the youth should work within the ranks of the ANC and systematically advocate their views' Their leader, Robert Sobukwe, challenged the advice and argued that: Mda's ideas are no longer sacrosanct. He wrote this letter in his counsel to Malema to learn from historical antecedent that rival formations against the ANC would always fail. Strangely, if you follow his argument from the above cited passage, he ends his narrative of the so called 'crop of youth leaguers based in Orlando' without saying that the PAC did not succeed because Mda had advised that youth should work within the ranks of the ANC and systematically advocate their views'. As he points out that Sobukwe didn't believe in the sacrosanctity of the views of Mda. One would have expected the letter to tell us that the challenge of the infiltration of the communist within the ranks of the ANC in the 1950's was misguided. This is a point which Thami is eluding if not glossing over it. I have learned that he is writing a biography of Sobukwe, some of the findings of his research should be taken with the pinch of the salt. For instance, in the documentary of Sobuwe which was screened by SABC: he says there were some attempts to get Sobukwe escaped to exile, which Sobuwe rejected. Had he derided Sobukwe, I would have waited with keen interest to read his biography of Sobukwe. Some few years ago, I spoke to him about disbanding PAM and coming back to the PAC, he said to me: ' the wounds of our division are so deep, they need some time to heal he continued we should always venerate Sobuwe It seems that he is at pains to enter the fray of the community of PAC detractors. It is one thing to cherish certain ethos, and another thing to join the ranks of those with antithetical views of what you have believed in. some years before 1994, Dr Ziba Jiyane who was the secretary general of the IFP said: the IFP believes that there is only one race and the race is the human race. This plagiarism of the PAC values was indicative of an embedded PAC's philosophy within himself Jiyane.Thami is no different to other dissidents, I believe he has some emotional conflict between Charterism and Pan Africanism. This may be covert, but the man himself knows what he believes in. this draws me to one Biblical Jonah who was sent to Nineveh but decided to change his trip. The tempest did not give him rest. As a writer and a researcher, Thami will always find difficulties in reconciling Charterism and Pan Africanism, unless he has discarded Pan Africanism completely. Perhaps the fact that we are not in government wherein people can reap from the state's accruals such as lucrative government positions and tenders, people see that staying within the PAC is a waste of their talents. I could be wrong in my assessment, please give me your views. kind regards Mduduzi Sibeko Distribution Customer Service Coordinator [cid:image001.png@01CE74A9.5A37E270] T +27-11-724-9300/01 C +27-71-101-2595 F 086-754-2176 E msib...@randwater.co.za www.randwater.co.za This email and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information. This information is private and protected by law and, accordingly, if you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to delete this entire communication immediately and are notified that any disclosure, copying or distribution of or taking any action based on this information is prohibited. Emails cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. The sender does not accept any liability or responsibility for any interception, corruption, destruction, loss, late arrival or incompleteness of or tampering or interference with any of the information contained in this email or for its incorrect delivery or non-delivery for whatsoever reason or for its effect on any electronic device of the recipient. Views and opinions expressed or implied in this email are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of Rand Water. If verification of this email or any attachment is required, please request a hard-copy version. Report illegal or suspicious activities! Use the Anti-Corruption Hotline - phone toll free 0800 212 364 -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco
Re: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo
M'Afrika Maleka You are correct and 100% correct, the state of conditions in the PAC is seriously painful, no sane leader and person can be boostful. The current leadership should rise above mediocrity in the best interests of the image of PAC, party members should equally rise above mediocrity to defend and advance the Pan Africanist Agenda. Secondly, as members and branches as we continue in building the party amd consolidating gains made we should aslo seriously review methods we use when considering party leadership. Parachuting people into leadership should be a thing of the past, party leadership across all party structures should emerge from the active party members who have undertaken to perform PAC political work without taking leave and comfort days from the struggles. Above all, as members and branches we must keep the PAC boat floating and moving forward! Shango lashu! Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi On 28 Jun 2013 20:13, a.r.mal...@gmail.com wrote: MOAFRICA I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR QUITE SOMETIME,IT IS SO PAINFULL TO SEE MY BELOVED ORGANISATION IN THIS STATE.WHY CAN'T THOSE GUYS AT NEC BURRY THEIR DIFERENCES AND WORK FOR THE PARTY.WE ONLY HAVE ONE SEAT IN PARLIAMENT BUT EVERYTIME ITS PAC NEC WANT THIS AND THAT.MY FELLOW AFRICANS LET STOP BEING LIKE THE CHARTERISTS.SOME OF ARE IN THE PAC WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY WE DONT KNOW OTHER PARTY THAN PAC OF AZANIA.COME ON CHILDREN OF THE SOIL.IZWE LETHU -- Sent via Nokia Email --Original message-- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com To: i...@bataufc.com,d...@pac.org.za,bennet_j...@yahoo.com, isa...@diplomatsa.co.za,paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, rammymfulw...@gmail.com,rateb...@webmail.co.za,smiz...@hotmail.com, smollozo...@gmail.com,bassiekam...@facebook.com,mphah...@eskom.co.za ,mvakalijust...@gmail.com,vakele mkandawire mvak...@gmail.com, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com,rako...@tut.ac.za,Andiswa Mjali mja...@pac.org.za,wgaj...@gmail.com,bulang...@gmail.com, mabitselada...@gmail.com,emadzu...@yahoo.com,Malinge Plaatjie malingeplaat...@yahoo.com,makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com, patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za,milesndl...@yahoo.com, montja...@yahoo.com,takalaniligeg...@gmail.com,tamulau...@hotmail.com ,apap...@webmail.co.za,angwa...@webmail.co.za, anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za,Lehlohonolo Shale lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com,lennox.maqw...@gmail.com, leon...@mpi.metropolitan.co.za,sibusiso.x...@gmail.com, tob...@yahoo.com,phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za,APLAMVA LIMPOMPO aplamval...@gmail.com, aplamvanatio...@gmail.com,kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za, luyand...@gmail.com,jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com, kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za,kub...@telkomsa.net,vumilemof...@yahoo.com ,payco@googlegroups.com,samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za, baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za,hoteli...@iburst.co.za,headoff...@sacwu.org.za ,mnyhon...@yahoo.com,nrkgag...@gmail.com,maiv...@pac.org.za, digashuma...@gmail.com,samrad...@upd.co.za,dannymonar...@gmail.com, khoi.so...@gmail.com,a...@a-aprp-gc.org,a...@joburg.org.za, frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za,drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com, victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za,ntsiemohl...@gmail.com, mphash...@webmail.co.za,ckoms...@yahoo.com,leratolepha...@ymail.com, ju-...@webmail.co.za,solomoncontrac...@gmail.com, nancykob...@webmail.co.za,znd...@hotmail.com, crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za,ndhlo...@pac.org.za,ikeyisa...@gmail.com ,oscarfelit...@gmail.com,gordon.mpi...@gmail.com, sibekowill...@yahoo.com,Vusi Mahlangu vemahla...@gmail.com, rakwe...@yahoo.com,tyamza...@yahoo.com,jabumakha...@yahoo.com, yolisamazo...@gmail.com,rmse...@gmail.com Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:52:13 AM GMT+0200 Subject: [PAYCO] FW: internal Memo The Internal Memorandum dated 27th June 2013 signed by Narius Moloto Secretary General, paragraph 5 states the following: The members are encouraged to have reference to Rule 49 of the Uniform Rules of Court, read with the Supreme Court Act 59 of 59 states the following :- Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal against or to rescind, correct, review or vary an order of a court has been made, the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended. Noting that Rule 49 is incomplete as it can be seen above (the operation and execution of the order in question shall be suspended.!). I then complied with the memo as it instructs, below it is the complete Section 49 Sub-Titled Civil Appeals from the High Court. Legislation updated to: 26 June 2009 UNIFORM RULES OF COURT1* RULES REGULATING THE CONDUCT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE SEVERAL PROVINCIAL AND LOCAL DIVISIONS OF THE HIGH COURT OF SOUTH AFRICA 49 Civil Appeals from the High Court (1) (a) When leave to appeal is required, it may on a statement of the grounds therefor be requested at the time of the judgment or order. Section (11) States that Where an appeal has been noted or an application for leave to appeal
