Winamp Pro Info
Hi! This is for the person who is trying to create MP3's with Winamp Pro to use in your work as a DJ. I'm about to be doing the same thing, and I was determined to figure out how to rip CD's with Winamp Pro, which is also the player that we're using for broadcasting. Happily, if you're using JFW 7 or later, there are some scripts at http://www.jfwlite.com that will help. The feature is located in the library, and without those scripts, you just won't get very far with Jaws. Smile I'm still getting familiar with the process, but if you try it and run into any trouble, let me know... I now know enough to be dangerous! Smile The process for figuring all this out has been a nightmare, so once it's over, I'm happy to help if I can. I wish you the best with your work... Take care! Jana --- Listen to Jana's new on-line radio show, The Living Room, featuring the best in contemporary Christian music! We've included at least one night for all your favorite genres: adult contemporary, praise and worship, and urban gospel! Monday-Friday, 6:00-8:00 P.M. CST http://www.mctmgradio.com Scheduled to begin March 5, 2007. See you there! --- For information about Jana's music ministry, visit her web site at http://www.janajackson.com/. ___ Need to plan a vacation or business trip? Jana's new on-line travel agency, JJM Travel, offers some of the best deals on the Internet for airfares, hotels, last-minute getaways, and more! For all of your travel needs, visit http://jjm.worldventures.biz. While you're there, find out how you, too, can save up to 90% on your travel through World Ventures! Jana is happy to answer any questions you might have concerning this exciting opportunity to work and have fun at the same time. If you have questions, feel free to e-mail her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making mp3s
under preferences i belive the sicth of seventh option down. hth At 12:23 AM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Hi! I'm trying to figure out where to even find the CD-ripping feature in Winamp. I have Winamp Pro, which is supposed to be very quick, and my understanding is that you can create MP3's of excellent quality. I'm going to try the CDDA Extractor, too. But if someone could tell me where to find the CD stuff in Winamp, I would really appreciate it. Jana - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Making mp3s does it do ID3 tags as well when encoding? Where do I get it? - Original Message - From: carl To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Making mp3s if you are blind i wud recomend cdx i hav been useing it for 2 days now and i'v riped 200 cd's into mp3 i love it man - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:37 PM Subject: Making mp3s Hi Guys, How is winamp for ripping cds to mp3s? does it do a good job? Also what do most people encode there mp3s at? I was thinking about going with 192 kbps, or do you think 256 is worth it? I am a d.j. and will be using the mp3s at gigs. I need them to sound as close to cds and records as possible. THANKS! Gian Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS GO METS Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
transcoding with winamp 5.33?
ello how do you transcode with winamp 5.33? I am using or trying to use the transcoding plugin thanks 73 hank smith amateur radio call sign: KE7IEF echo link node: 301027 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: hanksmith5 skype: hanksmith5 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IVocalize Scripts
Hi Jana, go to this site. ftp://ftp.compuconference.com/ - Original Message - From: Jana Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:24 AM Subject: IVocalize Scripts Hi again! Does anyone know where I can find scripts for JFW 8 and IVocalize? Thanks! Jana --- Listen to Jana's new on-line radio show, The Living Room, featuring the best in contemporary Christian music! We've included at least one night for all your favorite genres: adult contemporary, praise and worship, and urban gospel! Monday-Friday, 6:00-8:00 P.M. CST http://www.mctmgradio.com Scheduled to begin March 5, 2007. See you there! --- For information about Jana's music ministry, visit her web site at http://www.janajackson.com/. ___ Need to plan a vacation or business trip? Jana's new on-line travel agency, JJM Travel, offers some of the best deals on the Internet for airfares, hotels, last-minute getaways, and more! For all of your travel needs, visit http://jjm.worldventures.biz. While you're there, find out how you, too, can save up to 90% on your travel through World Ventures! Jana is happy to answer any questions you might have concerning this exciting opportunity to work and have fun at the same time. If you have questions, feel free to e-mail her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2080 (20070225) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bit rate quality question
Hi, this is Steve. I have a bit rate question. If I take a WAV file and convert it to a MP3 file, if I then later choose to further lower the bit rate, if I take the original WAV file and convert it to the desired lower bit rate, wouldn't the quality be better than lowering the already once compressed file, even though it is at a higher bit rate? My thinking is that an already compressed file, compressed further is using the first MP3 file as it's source. Hope this makes since. Am I correct or not? thank you Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ExpressTalk
What they do is give you all features until the demo period runs out. Then you have to buy the business edition if you want features like call recording. There are a few more features, too, but right now I don't remember what they are. I do remember that on their site there is a comparison between the business edition and the free version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Hicks Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:10 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: ExpressTalk Hello listers, I've got a quick question in reguards to ExpressTalk from NCH Swift Sound. The site says that it's a free program. However, yesterday I got a message notifying me that my demo has expired. Can anyone tell me what's up with this? Was there some other version I was supposed to download or something? I got the link for it on this list. Speaking of NCH, the same thing happened with their program Switch. There was some sort of limit on that too when I was informed it was free. Can anyone shed some light on this issue please? Thanks, Brandon Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2080 (20070225) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bit rate quality question
right you are. Rusty At 08:21 AM 2/26/2007, stever2525 spake thusly:- Hi, this is Steve. I have a bit rate question. If I take a WAV file and convert it to a MP3 file, if I then later choose to further lower the bit rate, if I take the original WAV file and convert it to the desired lower bit rate, wouldn't the quality be better than lowering the already once compressed file, even though it is at a higher bit rate? My thinking is that an already compressed file, compressed further is using the first MP3 file as it's source. Hope this makes since. Am I correct or not? thank you Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For everything that lives is holy, life delights in life. (William Blake) Check out my site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Studio Recorder
I just tried it. Seems to work on the file as is. - Original Message - From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:19 PM Subject: Studio Recorder When listening to an MP3 file in Studio Recorder can the speed and pitch of the file be increased or does the file have to be converted to .wav first? Thanks, Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mp3 bit rates
Hi, Does anyone have any info on the range of mp3s at different bit rates? For example is an mp3 at 192 30 Hz to 18 kHz? I heard mp3s at 128 only go up to 16 k, is that true? THANKS! Gian Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 bit rates
Actually, most mp3s that are at either 128k, 160k, and 192k and up to 320k, usually have a sampling rate of 44100 KHZ. That's cd quality. At 12:32 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any info on the range of mp3s at different bit rates? For example is an mp3 at 192 30 Hz to 18 kHz? I heard mp3s at 128 only go up to 16 k, is that true? THANKS! Gian Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2082 (20070226) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 bit rates
But is it not true that high bit rate and low frequency will degrade sound quality just as much? Compare a music file of let's say 192 KBS and 22 KHz with the same music at 64 KBS and 44.1 KHz. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Hi Chris. The sampling rate of 44.1 khz does not mean the music is CD quality. The bit rate will determine the frequency response of the music which is the real measure of quality. So, a bit rate of 128kbps will yield a frequency range that is much more limited than 320 kbps which means less low end and high treble frequency. Less dynamic frequency range, less quality... There was a great resource which gave a table of frequency range against bit rates but unfortunately I can't find it just yet. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Actually, most mp3s that are at either 128k, 160k, and 192k and up to 320k, usually have a sampling rate of 44100 KHZ. That's cd quality. At 12:32 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any info on the range of mp3s at different bit rates? For example is an mp3 at 192 30 Hz to 18 kHz? I heard mp3s at 128 only go up to 16 k, is that true? THANKS! Gian Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2082 (20070226) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 bit rates
Absolutely right... You'd never use less than a 44.1khz sampling rate for music. The sampling rate tells you how many times you're going to sample the data per second. The bit rate tells you how many bits will be used in each one second sample. So, the higher the sampling rate and the bit rate then the better the quality. Some nice explanations to be had at: http://www.mp3developments.com/article6.php Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rich De Steno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates But is it not true that high bit rate and low frequency will degrade sound quality just as much? Compare a music file of let's say 192 KBS and 22 KHz with the same music at 64 KBS and 44.1 KHz. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Hi Chris. The sampling rate of 44.1 khz does not mean the music is CD quality. The bit rate will determine the frequency response of the music which is the real measure of quality. So, a bit rate of 128kbps will yield a frequency range that is much more limited than 320 kbps which means less low end and high treble frequency. Less dynamic frequency range, less quality... There was a great resource which gave a table of frequency range against bit rates but unfortunately I can't find it just yet. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Actually, most mp3s that are at either 128k, 160k, and 192k and up to 320k, usually have a sampling rate of 44100 KHZ. That's cd quality. At 12:32 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any info on the range of mp3s at different bit rates? For example is an mp3 at 192 30 Hz to 18 kHz? I heard mp3s at 128 only go up to 16 k, is that true? THANKS! Gian Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2082 (20070226) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: transcoding with winamp 5.33?
Hello. When I use the transcoder, I select the file or files I want to transcode from the media library, use the right-click button on my keyboard, and selec the Send to submenu, then select Format Converter. When the window launches, I select the location I want the file to go to, the naming format, the bitrate and such, and hit the OK button...Then, it does the work for me, and I just wait until it says my last track is 100% done, click the Done button, and it closes. So far, I've done it successfully on converting several MP3's to slightly lower bitrates so I can fit them on my iPod...Haven't tried it with WMA files or other DRM-protected stuff. I'm using it with JAWS 8.0, with Windows XP Home. -- Visit me on Myspace! http://www.myspace.com -- Original message -- From: hank smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ello how do you transcode with winamp 5.33? I am using or trying to use the transcoding plugin thanks 73 hank smith amateur radio call sign: KE7IEF echo link node: 301027 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: hanksmith5 skype: hanksmith5 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [Blind Audio] Mozekty: The Talking Internet Radio Database
73 hank smith amateur radio call sign: KE7IEF echo link node: 301027 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: hanksmith5 skype: hanksmith5 - Original Message - From: MICHAEL MCCARTY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: [Blind Audio] Mozekty: The Talking Internet Radio Database I have lots of friends who ask me for accessible websites to find good links to internet radio stations. I usually send them to http://www.billsparks.org because Bill is visually impaired and understands how to create an online database of station listings that is screen reader friendly. Bill does a great job at keeping his website updated, but there's only so much one guy can do. Sometimes, you just want to try something new. Why can't there be a database of stations that is being checked by a handfull of people to insure that they are online and why can't that database be screen reader friendly? I was asking myself this question one day and did a Google search for internet radio database. The results weren't good. What I found were programs that were not accessible and tons of online resources that hadn't been updated in years. Well, I kept searching and eventually came to the InfraDrive Mozekty page at http://www.infradrive.com/mozekty.php . The description of the program said that Mozekty is a free fast tool to play your audio streams and radio stations, you can also get a list of the latest radio stations on the internet and save your favourite stations. Features include: Listen to hundreds of internet radio stations from around the world with this full-featured player. Add, edit or delete stations from your stations database. Check for latest stations found on the internet by connecting to Bitsnips.com. Get full info and statistics about the current playing stream. Full control from Mozekty system tray icon when the application is minimized. Friendly user interface. Great tool with a small size. I knew this was the program I was looking for. I went to the InfraDrive Download Page at http://www.infradrive.com/downloads.php and got a copy of Mozekty. The program worked great but had one problem with JAWS. As I tabbed through the various options, I noticed that JAWS wouldn't read the actual list of stations. This was an obvious problem. How was I going to know what station I had selected? I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and got an immediate email and Skype call from Ehab El-agizy. As we chatted, I discovered that this guy was really interested in my issue. He wanted to make this program accessible for blind and visually impaired users and to continue to offer it for free. We talked about JAWS and Window Eyes and how they read the screen to people who are blind or visually impaired. He downloaded a demo of each program and decided that the best way to bring accessibility to this program was to write his own Text to Speech interface. As you can imagine, I was floored. How many people do you know would take this kind of interest in making a program accessible? Well, a few days later, he was sending me the first beta. It worked well and I could use my default SAPI voice to access most of the program's menus and combo boxes. This was outstanding. A few days later the second beta arived. Now the entire program spoke and additional speech support was added. Now, I could choose any SAPI 4 or SAPI 5 voice and make it the default voice for the program. I could now access the program just as easily as any person with vision. I was so impressed by the work done that I promised to spread the word to as many blind and visually impaired people as possible. You are reading the result of that promise. If you are interested in internet radio, I'd like for you to give this program a download. If you know of good internet radio stations, please submit them so we can add them to the database for all to enjoy. The current version does not support streams by RealMedia because of their perprietary nature. This may be fixed in future releases. Ehab wants our feedback and has a forum for us to post suggestions and new internet radio listings. You can also send new listings to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . He did the programming and I did the testing. We made a great team and I hope we can continue to work together on the program's development. So, what are you waiting for? Click this direct link to download Mozekty. http://www.infradrive.com/downloads/Mozekty.exe If you have any questions about the program's speech output, feel free to contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael McCarty Fred's Head Database Coordinator American Printing House for the Blind Phone: 502 899-2396 Fax: 502
Re: transcoding with winamp 5.33?
how do you add stuff to the media library? thanks 73 hank smith amateur radio call sign: KE7IEF echo link node: 301027 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: hanksmith5 skype: hanksmith5 - Original Message - From: Wes Derby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:34 PM Subject: Re: transcoding with winamp 5.33? Hello. When I use the transcoder, I select the file or files I want to transcode from the media library, use the right-click button on my keyboard, and selec the Send to submenu, then select Format Converter. When the window launches, I select the location I want the file to go to, the naming format, the bitrate and such, and hit the OK button...Then, it does the work for me, and I just wait until it says my last track is 100% done, click the Done button, and it closes. So far, I've done it successfully on converting several MP3's to slightly lower bitrates so I can fit them on my iPod...Haven't tried it with WMA files or other DRM-protected stuff. I'm using it with JAWS 8.0, with Windows XP Home. -- Visit me on Myspace! http://www.myspace.com -- Original message -- From: hank smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ello how do you transcode with winamp 5.33? I am using or trying to use the transcoding plugin thanks 73 hank smith amateur radio call sign: KE7IEF echo link node: 301027 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: hanksmith5 skype: hanksmith5 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ExpressTalk
SJ Phone is another OK program to use. I've had it around awhile, but I just don't know what Voip service would let me use it, much less knowing people to talk to on such a service. I wonder if Vonage couldn't be done through this setup if one found out the necessary info some how? - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: RE: ExpressTalk What they do is give you all features until the demo period runs out. Then you have to buy the business edition if you want features like call recording. There are a few more features, too, but right now I don't remember what they are. I do remember that on their site there is a comparison between the business edition and the free version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Hicks Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:10 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: ExpressTalk Hello listers, I've got a quick question in reguards to ExpressTalk from NCH Swift Sound. The site says that it's a free program. However, yesterday I got a message notifying me that my demo has expired. Can anyone tell me what's up with this? Was there some other version I was supposed to download or something? I got the link for it on this list. Speaking of NCH, the same thing happened with their program Switch. There was some sort of limit on that too when I was informed it was free. Can anyone shed some light on this issue please? Thanks, Brandon Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2080 (20070225) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rockbox Question
Hi, This is Vicky from Pennsylvania. We talked in December, but we were unable to get Rockbox set up on my iPod Nanno. I tried your 888 number, but apparently, it's no longer in service. Would you either email me the instructions or call me tomorrow or Wednesday afternoons? My phone number is: 412 682 6552 Thanks for any help! Vicky Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ExpressTalk
Hi, Thanks for the info. That's an extremely weird way of doing software, and not even really mentioned on the site, but thanks for letting me know. I won't uninstall then. Thanks Brandon Tim Grady wrote: What they do is give you all features until the demo period runs out. Then you have to buy the business edition if you want features like call recording. There are a few more features, too, but right now I don't remember what they are. I do remember that on their site there is a comparison between the business edition and the free version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Hicks Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:10 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: ExpressTalk Hello listers, I've got a quick question in reguards to ExpressTalk from NCH Swift Sound. The site says that it's a free program. However, yesterday I got a message notifying me that my demo has expired. Can anyone tell me what's up with this? Was there some other version I was supposed to download or something? I got the link for it on this list. Speaking of NCH, the same thing happened with their program Switch. There was some sort of limit on that too when I was informed it was free. Can anyone shed some light on this issue please? Thanks, Brandon Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2080 (20070225) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rockbox Question
Hi Victoria, I'm not exactly sure who this message in regards to Rockbox was to, but I'd be glad to try and help you. You can Email me offlist with your question and I'll do my best to help, having installed Rockbox on two players. Brandon VICTORIA VAUGHAN wrote: Hi, This is Vicky from Pennsylvania. We talked in December, but we were unable to get Rockbox set up on my iPod Nanno. I tried your 888 number, but apparently, it's no longer in service. Would you either email me the instructions or call me tomorrow or Wednesday afternoons? My phone number is: 412 682 6552 Thanks for any help! Vicky Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I audio players
will rockbox work on all i audio players? 73 hank smith amateur radio call sign: KE7IEF echo link node: 301027 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: hanksmith5 skype: hanksmith5 - Original Message - From: Brandon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: I audio players Hi, I have an IAudio X5. I'm not sure how well navigation works in the default firmware, and IAudio has released newer players than the X5, but I installed Rockbox, which was extremely easy and I can now utilize all the functions of Rockbox. I'm not sure how many places actually still sell the X5, so I'll leave the rest of the comments on IAudio's players up to other list members. HTH Brandon Don Ball wrote: Mever mind about the xclef players I am use to the fact that they are no longer sold I want to know if any one is using the iaudio players and if they have been able to navigate from folder to folder. I am thinking about purchasing this player but if you can't move from track to track and folder to folder I don't want it. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ExpressTalk
At 23.50 26/02/2007, you wrote: Did I mention that Expresstalk has a little external driver that you can install called uplinkskype2sip? what is this driver? i would like to know more info about that, i use skype and express talk Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CDDA Extractor Problem
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:20:33 -0700, you wrote: I usually select all and then pres the space bar on the ones I don't want. But how do you even know which one you're highlighted on? By the way, I wrote to their support email address, and Jukka Poikolainen himself said that there will be a new version coming out soon where this accessibility issue will be resolved. Apparently I'm not the first to complain about it. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CDDA Extractor Problem
Are you not getting the file names? ** Let a smile be your lantern of joy robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net skype: talmidim msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Steve Matzura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Easy CDDA Extractor Problem On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:20:33 -0700, you wrote: I usually select all and then pres the space bar on the ones I don't want. But how do you even know which one you're highlighted on? By the way, I wrote to their support email address, and Jukka Poikolainen himself said that there will be a new version coming out soon where this accessibility issue will be resolved. Apparently I'm not the first to complain about it. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/702 - Release Date: 2/25/2007 3:16 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound editing and Marking Time Intervals
First, let me ask that you forgive my ignorance for using the incorrect editing terms. I've used Total Recorder for several years, mostly for very coarse editing. The other day I was attempting to clean up an interview trying to get rid of pauses and the all too many stumbles and realized that with Total recorder, it's only possible to move the editing markers by a tenth of a second gradations. So, as a result if I didn't by happen stance place a marker exactly between words, moving it to the left or right by a tenth of a second would make it too large of a leap. The result would be either to include the end of the last word of the phrase I whished to cut, or clip the first word of the portion I want to retain. My question is whether either Gold Wave or Sound Forge allows for much finer movements of editing markers? Any comments would be appreciated. Tony Swartz Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I audio players
Ok what is the proceedure for navigating folders with the rockbox software. I would assume that you could use the same key presses without using the software. - Original Message - From: Brandon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: I audio players Hi, I have an IAudio X5. I'm not sure how well navigation works in the default firmware, and IAudio has released newer players than the X5, but I installed Rockbox, which was extremely easy and I can now utilize all the functions of Rockbox. I'm not sure how many places actually still sell the X5, so I'll leave the rest of the comments on IAudio's players up to other list members. HTH Brandon Don Ball wrote: Mever mind about the xclef players I am use to the fact that they are no longer sold I want to know if any one is using the iaudio players and if they have been able to navigate from folder to folder. I am thinking about purchasing this player but if you can't move from track to track and folder to folder I don't want it. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I audio players
Hi, From reading the manual, I'm pretty sure this isn't the case. To pop up the file browser in Rockbox, with the X5 you press the center of the joystick. You're then placed on your current song, and you use the left arrow to move up levels, up and down to move in that level and right to open a folder or open a song. I'm pretty sure there are more keystrokes needed with the stock firmware. A blind person should be able to do it as long as they have someone figure it out with them the first time. If you have the X5, I can either attach and send or point you to a URL with lists of the menus in order with the latest stock firmware, to make it easier to use the features. Brandon Don Ball wrote: Ok what is the proceedure for navigating folders with the rockbox software. I would assume that you could use the same key presses without using the software. - Original Message - From: Brandon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: I audio players Hi, I have an IAudio X5. I'm not sure how well navigation works in the default firmware, and IAudio has released newer players than the X5, but I installed Rockbox, which was extremely easy and I can now utilize all the functions of Rockbox. I'm not sure how many places actually still sell the X5, so I'll leave the rest of the comments on IAudio's players up to other list members. HTH Brandon Don Ball wrote: Mever mind about the xclef players I am use to the fact that they are no longer sold I want to know if any one is using the iaudio players and if they have been able to navigate from folder to folder. I am thinking about purchasing this player but if you can't move from track to track and folder to folder I don't want it. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I audio players
Hi, As of right now, Rockbox only works on the X5. It can be ported by someone who knows how to code in whatever language Rockbox is in, to a few of the players as all the docs are there. But no one has done it yet. Most of the newer players aren't ported yet, because no one has taken them apart and figured out what sort of hardware they have inside, and the drivers to get them working with OpenSource. HTH Brandon hank smith wrote: will rockbox work on all i audio players? 73 hank smith amateur radio call sign: KE7IEF echo link node: 301027 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: hanksmith5 skype: hanksmith5 - Original Message - From: Brandon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: I audio players Hi, I have an IAudio X5. I'm not sure how well navigation works in the default firmware, and IAudio has released newer players than the X5, but I installed Rockbox, which was extremely easy and I can now utilize all the functions of Rockbox. I'm not sure how many places actually still sell the X5, so I'll leave the rest of the comments on IAudio's players up to other list members. HTH Brandon Don Ball wrote: Mever mind about the xclef players I am use to the fact that they are no longer sold I want to know if any one is using the iaudio players and if they have been able to navigate from folder to folder. I am thinking about purchasing this player but if you can't move from track to track and folder to folder I don't want it. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: transcoding with winamp 5.33?
Have you tried sending a protected *.WMA from your computer to a device such as a Windows Mobile 5 PDA using WinAmp. Does it work? I am not overly impressed with the way Windows Media Player 11 does this. I am not saying it won't do it, but I am not very impressed with how it does it. As we all know Windows Media Player is just the most accessible player in the world (smile). - Original Message - From: Wes Derby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: transcoding with winamp 5.33? : Hello. : : When I use the transcoder, I select the file or files I want to transcode from the media library, use the right-click button on my keyboard, and selec the Send to submenu, then select Format Converter. When the window launches, I select the location I want the file to go to, the naming format, the bitrate and such, and hit the OK button...Then, it does the work for me, and I just wait until it says my last track is 100% done, click the Done button, and it closes. So far, I've done it successfully on converting several MP3's to slightly lower bitrates so I can fit them on my iPod...Haven't tried it with WMA files or other DRM-protected stuff. : : I'm using it with JAWS 8.0, with Windows XP Home. : : : : -- : Visit me on Myspace! : : http://www.myspace.com : : -- Original message -- : From: hank smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] : ello how do you transcode with winamp 5.33? : I am using or trying to use the transcoding plugin : thanks : : 73 : hank smith : amateur radio call sign: : KE7IEF : echo link node: : 301027 : email: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : msn messenger: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : aim: : hanksmith5 : skype: : hanksmith5 : : : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... : http://www.pc-audio.org : : To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... : http://www.pc-audio.org : : To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : -- : Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. : Checked by AVG Free Edition. : Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.18.1/690 - Release Date: 2/16/2007 2:25 PM : : Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 bit rates
if you ever find that chart, please pass it on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Hi Chris. The sampling rate of 44.1 khz does not mean the music is CD quality. The bit rate will determine the frequency response of the music which is the real measure of quality. So, a bit rate of 128kbps will yield a frequency range that is much more limited than 320 kbps which means less low end and high treble frequency. Less dynamic frequency range, less quality... There was a great resource which gave a table of frequency range against bit rates but unfortunately I can't find it just yet. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Actually, most mp3s that are at either 128k, 160k, and 192k and up to 320k, usually have a sampling rate of 44100 KHZ. That's cd quality. At 12:32 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any info on the range of mp3s at different bit rates? For example is an mp3 at 192 30 Hz to 18 kHz? I heard mp3s at 128 only go up to 16 k, is that true? THANKS! Gian Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2082 (20070226) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 bit rates
minutes per song, 250 songs would take up about 1 gigabyte of space. This is a good equation to use when taking a look at your entire music collection to determine changing your bit rates or upgrading your music player. There are hundreds of MP3 software players out there. If you search in the preferences or options section, you'll most likely come across converting or an importing tab. In Apple's iTunesÓ on a PC it is located In Edit/Preferences/Advanced Tab/Importing Tab, and in iTunes Preferences Advanced Importing on the Mac. Now choose your encoder. If you choose MP3 encoder in the Import Using Field, it will let you choose a fixed rate from 16kbps to 320kbps by clicking the Custom option in the Setting Field. Your file will then be converted to the popular MP3 format. In the custom screen you can also choose your fixed bit rate or check the VBR box to make it a variable bit rate converter. If you choose VBR you can then change the spectrum of quality that the VBR converter will use from Lowest to Highest. Please note that these conversion settings do not apply to music downloaded from Apple's iTunesÓ, just music that you import from your own CD collection. You may also notice other converter options in the encoder tab like Apple Lossless, AAC MP4 and AIFF. These are just more options for converting your music to an MP3 like file. A format other than MP3 may not play on your player. Apple lossless, AAC, MP4 and AIFF formats are supported by Apple products but may not be supported by other manufacturers' players or software. If you are not sure if your player supports these file formats, stick with converting to MP3 files. For more info on AAC and AIFF files please click here. Hear for Yourself The test is to convert a few songs at different bit rates. Then listen carefully, and see what differences you notice between the different versions of the same song. Your ears will tell you what really matters. Of course, the type of earphones you use can also make a huge difference in the way you hear your music. Shure's goal is to create products that accurately capture or reproduce the sounds the way the artists intend them to sound. Many people who make the move to using higher quality earphones, such as the Shure E Series line , begin to download their music at higher bit rates because you will notice the defects and nuances that were not apparent before. Experiment with bit rates and songs to experience the difference Shure earphones can make. ** Let a smile be your lantern of joy robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net skype: talmidim msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates if you ever find that chart, please pass it on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Hi Chris. The sampling rate of 44.1 khz does not mean the music is CD quality. The bit rate will determine the frequency response of the music which is the real measure of quality. So, a bit rate of 128kbps will yield a frequency range that is much more limited than 320 kbps which means less low end and high treble frequency. Less dynamic frequency range, less quality... There was a great resource which gave a table of frequency range against bit rates but unfortunately I can't find it just yet. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Actually, most mp3s that are at either 128k, 160k, and 192k and up to 320k, usually have a sampling rate of 44100 KHZ. That's cd quality. At 12:32 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any info on the range of mp3s at different bit rates? For example is an mp3 at 192 30 Hz to 18 kHz? I heard mp3s at 128 only go up to 16 k, is that true? THANKS! Gian Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2082 (20070226) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org
Re: mp3 bit rates
I thought that since MP3 is a smaller file, that maybe you would lose more highs than lows. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:28 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Absolutely right... You'd never use less than a 44.1khz sampling rate for music. The sampling rate tells you how many times you're going to sample the data per second. The bit rate tells you how many bits will be used in each one second sample. So, the higher the sampling rate and the bit rate then the better the quality. Some nice explanations to be had at: http://www.mp3developments.com/article6.php Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rich De Steno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates But is it not true that high bit rate and low frequency will degrade sound quality just as much? Compare a music file of let's say 192 KBS and 22 KHz with the same music at 64 KBS and 44.1 KHz. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Hi Chris. The sampling rate of 44.1 khz does not mean the music is CD quality. The bit rate will determine the frequency response of the music which is the real measure of quality. So, a bit rate of 128kbps will yield a frequency range that is much more limited than 320 kbps which means less low end and high treble frequency. Less dynamic frequency range, less quality... There was a great resource which gave a table of frequency range against bit rates but unfortunately I can't find it just yet. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: mp3 bit rates Actually, most mp3s that are at either 128k, 160k, and 192k and up to 320k, usually have a sampling rate of 44100 KHZ. That's cd quality. At 12:32 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any info on the range of mp3s at different bit rates? For example is an mp3 at 192 30 Hz to 18 kHz? I heard mp3s at 128 only go up to 16 k, is that true? THANKS! Gian Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2082 (20070226) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
