Re: A DVD cost comparison question
The double layered ones are twice as expensive and also you need to make sure your burner can do that. Now all burners won't do double density so this is really important to check. If your manual says double you will be good to go but they are expensive so plan on that. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/13/2009 at 3:39 PM Donald L. Roberts wrote: I have been using 4-gig DVDs for backups of audio files. But lately I have begun to wonder if the double layer DVDs might be just about as economical. Additionally, can anyone point me to any articles comparing the long term reliability of single layer versus double layer DVDs? Thanks. Don Roberts Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Please Join Me from 9 to midnight Eastern Each Saturday for djc's Jukebox on either: http://ultrastreams.us:9660 Or http://sc8.spacialnet.com:22734/ Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Thanks for the info, Ray and Gary! I'll have a look! I don't use vinyl any more, but my brother asked me if I could somehow transfer a couple of his to CD. I hope that I can, and maybe grab a copy for myself! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:36 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Gary Wood wrote: I would like to know if there's such an animal as a cassette recorder or player with a built-in turntable. I would like to take some of my cassettes and maybe a vinal or two and put them on the harddrive, so I can burn them to CD's! Anyone know about this? - Original Message - From: Dave McElroy WA6BEF d...@drakelroy.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Bruce makes a good point. unless you have a recording that is so rare it is better to buy the album on disc or download the MP3 album and burn the disc. you're only out a couple bucks instead of buying equipment you'll use once or twice. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
what about the Teac 350-G which allows you to dub vinyl to compact disc. then rip the disc to the hard drive if you want. clean up the files and remake the disc. you are talking about a lot of money for just a couple of vinyl restorations though. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Convert avi to mpg.
Hello! The subject says it all. I want to convert avi files to mpg files. Any good freeware utility out there? /Anders. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
I have one of those TEAC units, not sure of model, that I'm not using. It has rca jacks in the back for plugging in an external source such as a cassette deck. If you would like to buy it, write me off list. earlier, Gary Schindler, wrote: what about the Teac 350-G which allows you to dub vinyl to compact disc. then rip the disc to the hard drive if you want. clean up the files and remake the disc. you are talking about a lot of money for just a couple of vinyl restorations though. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 02/13/09 18:29:00 John Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: A DVD cost comparison question
That might be, I'd imagine it could be since the technology is newer. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:15 AM Subject: Re: A DVD cost comparison question But what about DVDRW and DVD ram! I hear that DVD ram can be used many more times over than DVDRW's! - Original Message - From: Constantine tcwoo...@shaw.ca To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: Re: A DVD cost comparison question No, not all dvd players support duel layer discs. I did, however, find out some useful info: Dvd +r's are better than dvd -r. I'll try and dig up the article somewhere. I'd guess single layer would deteriate less since they'd have less of a chance of messing up when burning. Also, double layer cost nearly twice as much as single - so if storage is the answer, it sure would save space - and cost about the same as 2 of the same single layer discs. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Sylvia sylvia0...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: Re: A DVD cost comparison question I also have a question relating to burning with dvd's. Do all dvd writers support dual layer disks? - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts donald_roberts...@yahoo.com To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: A DVD cost comparison question I have been using 4-gig DVDs for backups of audio files. But lately I have begun to wonder if the double layer DVDs might be just about as economical. Additionally, can anyone point me to any articles comparing the long term reliability of single layer versus double layer DVDs? Thanks. Don Roberts Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray.
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Part of the problem with DBX was that if you listened to a DBX-recorded tape on a non-DBX system, it sounded absolutely horrible. bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Schindler wrote: I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never caught on with the general public for home recording. companies like Sony and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
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Now your talking, heheheh - Original Message - From: Keith Gillard kgill...@shaw.ca To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables 2 inch tape baby! You can't get that quality using home equipment. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never caught on with the general public for home recording. companies like Sony and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help,
Jaws Goldwave bonks and shutdowns ...
Dear PC Audio List Goldwave Tech Support: Whenever I run Goldwave on my laptop, I first get this bonking sound (like when you get to the end of a line of text). It continues repeatedly bonking for around 2 or 3 minutes. I then get a Jaws Application error message. I hit enter on the send error message button. It sends the message then repeats the error message. When I select send error message this time, it blows Jaws out and I have to restart the computer. This only happens when I start Goldwave, no other programs are affected at any time. I have the sounds settings in the control panel set to the built in sound card, SigmaTel Audio. The device, play, record settings in Goldwave are set to the same sound card. I am using Windows XP on a Dell Inspiron 5101 laptop. Very vanilla. The error message stated: Sz appName jfweve SZ appVer 905192 SZMODName NTCll cll SZ modver 5/2600 5512 offset 120e The Following files will be included in the error report: Docume 1\psmith\locals1\t emp\Wer5320 di 00 exe.mdmp Jfw.exe.mdmp The only red flag to me in that mass of letters and numbers is the jfw.exe.mdmp line. I am cc-ing a very nice fellow with customer service at Goldwave on this email. The folks at Freedom Scientific had little to say other than they have heard of Goldwave and that I should try a listserve called jfw-lite. They said that they had no idea what to do with that error message. I think the problem is a basic one , but I have yet to figure it out. Has anyone encountered this situation? I have tried removing Goldwave and adding a fresh new copy. I also tried using the Jaws default settings and the bonking and error messages continued. I have also tried variations on the Jaws 9.0 ini file entry. All with no luck. Help! Peter Smith Charleston, South Carolina -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:chris2...@goldwave.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:21 PM To: psmit...@post.harvard.edu Subject: Re: GWI - 5.25 bonking Peter Alan Smith wrote: The bonking and application error continues... What does the application error say? Chris Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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You got that right. Another example was the Sony bayta system. According to many people that I have spoken with it was far superior over the VHS system. - Original Message - From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never caught on with the general public for home recording. companies like Sony and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck. A good ear should be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. . . . . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I know here a brand called ION has seemingly cornered the market in three seperate units that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos. So I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go. Ray. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 2/13/2009 6:51 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
2 inch tape baby! You can't get that quality using home equipment. - Original Message - From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote: Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one! - Original Message - From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw, the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these turntables are very basic performers technically. I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good pre-amp. These cost! Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for service. After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about sound quality. I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know it is going to be time-consuming. Hope these thoughts are of some help. Ray. Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: In a word, awful. lol -Original Message- On Behalf Of André van Deventer Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be. -Original Message- On Behalf Of Ray Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs. Still we're talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the two. I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff. I
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
The water example is an excellent one, speaking as one who can't stand the taste of chlorine. Thanks for this very good message. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Bob Seed wrote: Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270
I do not know how to put it in English. Also, if you want, you can put rockbox on it. (www.rockbox.org) It enables the Sansa to read Micro SD-HC cards. Plus, it has the ability to talk as well. - Original Message - From: Max G. Swanson swand...@iphouse.com To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270 I recently bought a 4GB Sandisk player, the Sansa 270, for $30.00 delivered. Great price, but no manual; and no outboard charger, though the data cable works for that too. Bought it in part for my S.O. to enjoy the video screen and don't expect it to be fully accessible, but all the messages on said screen are in French. Quel domage! Any thoughts on tweaking the main menu back to English, which would make it a more inviting device? I must say the internal software seems quite good. Plug the darn thing in, and it starts finding your WMA files. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- I had a quote for y'all, but the clipboard fizzled again. All the best, Max. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Jaws Goldwave bonks and shutdowns ...
Hi Peter, I'm not a Jaws User myself, or not nowadays at least, however, I believe a friend of mine, Colin Howard, who has in the past been a member of this list, but is not currently a member, has had the problem you describe. I hope you don't mind, but I've forwarded him the message to which I'm now replying and when I spoke to him on the phone just now, he said he was intending to contact you privately with a solution to your problem. Alexander Shannon Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270
can that mp3 player talk? - Original Message - From: Timothy tmthywy...@aol.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270 I do not know how to put it in English. Also, if you want, you can put rockbox on it. (www.rockbox.org) It enables the Sansa to read Micro SD-HC cards. Plus, it has the ability to talk as well. - Original Message - From: Max G. Swanson swand...@iphouse.com To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270 I recently bought a 4GB Sandisk player, the Sansa 270, for $30.00 delivered. Great price, but no manual; and no outboard charger, though the data cable works for that too. Bought it in part for my S.O. to enjoy the video screen and don't expect it to be fully accessible, but all the messages on said screen are in French. Quel domage! Any thoughts on tweaking the main menu back to English, which would make it a more inviting device? I must say the internal software seems quite good. Plug the darn thing in, and it starts finding your WMA files. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- I had a quote for y'all, but the clipboard fizzled again. All the best, Max. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Seeking information on USB turntables
i would agree with the HD broadcasting audio spectrum cause that is a totally different horse of another color all together which i would be glad to see happen sooner then later . - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables The water example is an excellent one, speaking as one who can't stand the taste of chlorine. Thanks for this very good message. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: br...@ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Bob Seed wrote: Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the difference in audio playback quality between a home and professional unit on a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital broadcast audio. Original Message - From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal, tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could produce with home-grown equipment. Bruce Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270
Yes. I have a Sansa-E270 with rockbox 3.0 on it. The voice I have loaded for the menus and everything is Acapella Heather American English. I also have VW Kate for V 3.0. I can give you instructions on how to install rockbox, and to install the voice. HTH, Timothy - Original Message - From: Julio jmoro...@ca.rr.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270 can that mp3 player talk? - Original Message - From: Timothy tmthywy...@aol.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270 I do not know how to put it in English. Also, if you want, you can put rockbox on it. (www.rockbox.org) It enables the Sansa to read Micro SD-HC cards. Plus, it has the ability to talk as well. - Original Message - From: Max G. Swanson swand...@iphouse.com To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270 I recently bought a 4GB Sandisk player, the Sansa 270, for $30.00 delivered. Great price, but no manual; and no outboard charger, though the data cable works for that too. Bought it in part for my S.O. to enjoy the video screen and don't expect it to be fully accessible, but all the messages on said screen are in French. Quel domage! Any thoughts on tweaking the main menu back to English, which would make it a more inviting device? I must say the internal software seems quite good. Plug the darn thing in, and it starts finding your WMA files. Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- I had a quote for y'all, but the clipboard fizzled again. All the best, Max. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
recording device for telephone calls
Can anyone on the list suggest a recording device that will enable me to record telephone calls on a computer? I thought of possibly feeding the telephone into a mixer with hybrid telephone capability. I also checked with the source known as circuit city in the united states, and they said that they never had a request of this type before. Basically what I am looking for is a telephone patch device. Years ago there was a recording device that would fit over the telephone hand set that would enable one to record a telephone conversation. I have no idea what is out there for computers. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
