Re: Sony Android TV Was Apple TV 4th Gen
Oh by the way, you'll know a Sony Android Smart TV as the TV - at least in Australia anyway - has something like "Sony Android Smart TV" advertised/stamped on it. On 17/02/2016 4:15 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I'm on a very high traffic android list, and there has lately been discussion of android tv boxes, but not an actual tv set, on that list. People have had issues making certain services that are not directly from google, such as Netflix, work at all with talkback. Devices discussed include the nexus, Shield and another one that is something like metracom, but I'm sure I've got that spelled wrong. How much did this Sony android set set you back? No pun intended. Mary -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Sony Android TV Was Apple TV 4th Gen
Great Pun Mary, enjoyed it . I don't want to sound difficult but I'd rather not mention a price given the Australian Dollar is very low compared to the U.S. dollar and also for the fact that their may be far more Android TV'S available in the U.S. than in Australia - in fact I'm very sure of that -. The model I'm getting is a 50 inch model and it has multiple inputs/outputs, an audio line-out for example plus digital out and HDMI. You can also use a Bluetooth keyboard, Mouse or Airpad depending on your preference, personally I like to have all 3 devices on hand depending on what App I'm running obviously. I don't know of the other boxes you've mentioned though I am interested, do these boxes come wiht Tuners to receive FTA TV built-in? Obviously the Sony set does along with a couple of USB ports and 4 HDMI input ports - how many damn HDMI ports does none need - Installing Apps is easy enough it seems, you can't get too far without having a Google account and thus access to the Google Play Store. If you'd rather not install Apps that way and download them yourself then you can place them on a USB stick and use a File Browser App to find the downloaded Apps and install that way. On 17/02/2016 4:15 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I'm on a very high traffic android list, and there has lately been discussion of android tv boxes, but not an actual tv set, on that list. People have had issues making certain services that are not directly from google, such as Netflix, work at all with talkback. Devices discussed include the nexus, Shield and another one that is something like metracom, but I'm sure I've got that spelled wrong. How much did this Sony android set set you back? No pun intended. Mary -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Sony Android TV Was Apple TV 4th Gen
I'm on a very high traffic android list, and there has lately been discussion of android tv boxes, but not an actual tv set, on that list. People have had issues making certain services that are not directly from google, such as Netflix, work at all with talkback. Devices discussed include the nexus, Shield and another one that is something like metracom, but I'm sure I've got that spelled wrong. How much did this Sony android set set you back? No pun intended. Mary
Re: Apple TV 4th Gen
BT Keyboard support has nothing whatever to do with BT Speakers . You can of course connect an AirPlay device to the Apple TV right out of the box, you don’t even need to have the Apple TV connected to an existing Home Network. > On 17 Feb 2016, at 9:13 AM, Stephanie Mitchell> wrote: > > I also got appletv last week. I'm debating if I get netflix, foxtell, or > some other service. I'd like to connect a bt speaker to the tv and cant wait > for bt keyboard support. > Steph > > - Original Message - > From: Robert Williams > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:52 am > Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen > >> >> >> >> I have the both the 3rd and the 4th generation apple tvs and you do not >> need to have the tv on. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I >>> think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant >>> learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type >>> something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding >>> out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the >>> next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the >>> mainstream Apple-oriented press. >>> >>> That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd >>> generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we >>> experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our >>> tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound >>> bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem >>> completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the >>> sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. >>> Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results >>> with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I >>> haven't a clue why. >>> >>> I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and >>> use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an >>> example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch >>> netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. >>> There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically >>> remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be >>> physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> >> > > Mitchell Piano Studio > Phone: 0450354342 > Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Sony Android TV Was Apple TV 4th Gen
As far as I’m concerned the Apple Forth Generation TV means absolutely nothing whatever to me any longer now that I’ve decided to get my Sony Android Smart TV and I’m very glad I did the more I read about the Apple TV. I do appreciate of course that a Sony Android Smart TV won’t be for everyone though it does have some clear advantages over its Apple TV and other competition in the market place. Yes, there are blind people using these things so I know a fair deal about them already without having to have bought one and also the fact that I’m an Android user too with my Samsung Galaxy S6 and Android 5.11 Lollypop so I know of what to expect. As far as I know Sony are the only company to manufacturing Android TV sets and I’m hoping this will change in time given that Google has released its Android TV Operating System which the Sony sets are using. I can understand why other company’s such as Samsung are reluctant to go down that road right now having invested a huge amount in their own TV Hibred operating systems so full marks to Sony for jumping onto the Google Band wagon and giving us some accessible competition. > On 17 Feb 2016, at 7:50 AM, Mary Ottenwrote: > > Hi John, > > Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I > think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant > learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type > something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding > out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the > next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the > mainstream Apple-oriented press. > > That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd > generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we > experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our > tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound > bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem > completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the > sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. > Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results > with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I > haven't a clue why. > > I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and > use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an > example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch > netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. > There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically > remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be > physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. > > Mary > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Apple TV 4th Gen
That's right. If the TV has ARC audio return channel you can have the audio go from the tv strangelyto the HDMI out of the AV that is sending the vid to the TV. Odd right? But it works. Yeah HDCP this ticks off Leo Laporte and he always ends any discussion of this kind of thing by saying thanks a lot Holly Wood. He says they're paranoid. Same opinion applys for Microsoft. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 6:16 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'Subject: RE: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi Mary. Funny you should mention the speech dropout issue as I recently ran into this myself but not with the Apple TV. It was with a mini pc that I had connected to an HDMI port on my receiver. It was really annoying and totally ruined the whole experience of using the PC. Like you, the problem was solved when I connected the PC to one of the HDMI ports on the TV. In my case however, sound continued to be routed to my home theater system because the TV was connected to the receiver via HDMI as well. Regarding what you experienced with Netflix not playing when your TV wasn't plugged in, unfortunately, that's the way it is due to the HDCP (hd copy protection) present on any of these media streamers which is required by any of the services that offer movies and copy protected music. Best regards, Rick Alfaro -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
RE: a helping hand in starting up..or working on an internet radio station?
If you haven't tried broadcasting I would say that there are a lot of internet radio stations out there. Some of them are really good. The rest, in my opinion, mediocre. The reason I'm telling you this is because some of these stations will actualy train you while others just give you time on there server and they really don't care what you do with it. Like I said I'm not sure if you're a broadcaster looking to start a new station or if you're just looking in to getting in to broadcasting. If you've never broadcasted before I can offer you some resources for training yourself. I help run a couple of stations. The most recent one is the VIP Lounge. http://www.theviploungeradio.com It's a music based community radio station out of the U.K. but we have broadcasters from different parts of the world. We also provide training and support for our presenters. I also help run Panoramic Radio. http://www.panoramicradio.com That station is more of a whatever goes type station. It's very hands-off and we pretty much just give you your time on the station and you can do with it what you please. Feel free to contact me off-list if you want some guidance and/or resources. Take care bb -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of randy tijerina Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:01 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: a helping hand in starting up..or working on an internet radio station? hi friendsI'm asking all the dj's out thereif it's possible...if they could give me a novice.such as myself..a hand in the rops of internet broadcasting? I'm wanting to get my feet wet..but I don't know where to start...any dj's out there care to help?
RE: Apple TV 4th Gen
Hi Mary. Funny you should mention the speech dropout issue as I recently ran into this myself but not with the Apple TV. It was with a mini pc that I had connected to an HDMI port on my receiver. It was really annoying and totally ruined the whole experience of using the PC. Like you, the problem was solved when I connected the PC to one of the HDMI ports on the TV. In my case however, sound continued to be routed to my home theater system because the TV was connected to the receiver via HDMI as well. Regarding what you experienced with Netflix not playing when your TV wasn't plugged in, unfortunately, that's the way it is due to the HDCP (hd copy protection) present on any of these media streamers which is required by any of the services that offer movies and copy protected music. Best regards, Rick Alfaro -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion ListSubject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
Re: Apple TV 4th Gen
I also got appletv last week. I'm debating if I get netflix, foxtell, or some other service. I'd like to connect a bt speaker to the tv and cant wait for bt keyboard support. Steph - Original Message - From: Robert WilliamsTo: PC Audio Discussion List Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:52 am Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen > > > > I have the both the 3rd and the 4th generation apple tvs and you do not need > to have the tv on. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > > > Hi John, > > > > Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I > > think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant > > learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type > > something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding > > out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the > > next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the > > mainstream Apple-oriented press. > > > > That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd > > generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we > > experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our > > tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound > > bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem > > completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the > > sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. > > Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results > > with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I > > haven't a clue why. > > > > I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and > > use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an > > example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch > > netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. > > There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically > > remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be > > physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. > > > > Mary > > > > > Mitchell Piano Studio Phone: 0450354342 Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com
Re: Apple TV 4th Gen
I have the both the 3rd and the 4th generation apple tvs and you do not need to have the tv on. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Mary Ottenwrote: > > Hi John, > > Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I > think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant > learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type > something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding > out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the > next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the > mainstream Apple-oriented press. > > That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd > generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we > experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our > tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound > bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem > completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the > sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. > Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results > with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I > haven't a clue why. > > I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and > use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an > example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch > netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. > There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically > remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be > physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. > > Mary > >
RE: a helping hand in starting up..or working on an internet radio station?
Hello Randy: To start up a radio station is not that difficult, most people use either Shoutcast or Icecast as the software generating the stream. You would choose whether to contract a streaming service or do it yourself in your own dedicated or PVS server. To be a DJ with pre-recorded talk programs is the easiest and most flexible way. To make them live is much more demanding, has to be done at exact times and the quality depends then not only of your server, but also of your internet connection and transmission to the server. Being an actual DJ, that is presenting music programs, has the difficulty of having to pay royalties, something that on Jan 1, 2016 became much more expensive, prohibitive for amateur enthusiasts. I have run an internet radio station for years that has become very successful with presenters from 24 countries and listeners from 108 countries, but is all in Spanish, it is called http://radiogeneral.com and soon, I will be starting another one totally in English and consisting entirely of pre-recorded talk shows or Old Time Radio programs, that will be called "Radio Broadcast Training Service of the US" whose domain will be www.rbts.us and if you are interested in doing a weekly pre-recorded talk show, get in touch with me. You would have to record it, edit the audio and upload it to the server using FTP. If anyone on the list is interested in doing a weekly pre-recorded talk show in Spanish for Radio General, please contact me also. It does not matter if your Spanish isn't perfect, is accented or grammatically flawed, as long as it is understandable and pleasing to the ear, it is fine. Regards, Humberto Humberto Rodriguez Fort White, Florida -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of randy tijerina Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:01 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: a helping hand in starting up..or working on an internet radio station? hi friendsI'm asking all the dj's out thereif it's possible...if they could give me a novice.such as myself..a hand in the rops of internet broadcasting? I'm wanting to get my feet wet..but I don't know where to start...any dj's out there care to help?
Re: Apple TV 4th Gen
mary, with the new apple tv you can use the hdmi and if connected to a surround sound receiver you do not need to have your tv on. you can just listen to the audio through the receiver. also the problem with voice over cutting out. the software could be corrupted and might need a fresh install of software. a full factory reset can sometimes fix those problems. i have the apple tv 3rd gen and also 4th gen and never any problems with voiceover cutting out. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten"To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
Re: Apple TV 4th Gen
Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
a helping hand in starting up..or working on an internet radio station?
hi friendsI'm asking all the dj's out thereif it's possible...if they could give me a novice.such as myself..a hand in the rops of internet broadcasting? I'm wanting to get my feet wet..but I don't know where to start...any dj's out there care to help?
Apple TV 4th Gen
I got the Apple TV 4th gen last week. I had been resisting because the 3rd Gen audio was so poor. I have to say the 4th gen sounds much better. This is based exclusively on my use of the Apple Music service. Maybe it's just down to the better WIFI capacity, I don't know, but the audio sound is full and more detailed and much more acceptable. I haven't tried any movies yet. One thing I noticed with the 3rd gen TV (especially since the last few updates) and that is that Voice Over was terrible. I don't mean the audio quality. I mean much of the time the beginning of any menu or selection was cut off to the point where it was unintelligible. The speech was delayed and had weird pitch-altering effects. I assumed (probably correctly) that the hardware could not handle the extra work of Voice Over. Well, it's a lot better in the 4th gen, but it's still present at times. If you pause and then flick to another selection the first bit of the spoken item can get truncated. Sometimes you have to flick away and back again to hear it properly. I'm using the UK Voice which is Daniel so maybe it doesn't happen with other voices. The remote is quite easy to use and because it's based on swiping it is a lot like using any other IOS device. If I discover anything else of note I'll let you know. John
SV: another pair of headphones to consider
Hi, Nope. I've just board the y50 which actually are super clear although scenheiser has a little bit more top end. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten Sendt: 16. februar 2016 00:10 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: another pair of headphones to consider Has anybody tried the AKG k712? They apparently came out around the same time as the B P7. I only ran across them today on the amazon.com site. Apparently, they are not unlike the q701, in that they are open back. So you won't make friends if listening in a public place. Comparison between these and the 701 was generally favorable, with people prefering the k712 headband and material the ear cups are padded with. There is a substancial price difference, $350 versus $179 if memory serves. That's on the U.S. Amazon site. I'd love to try these, since I have and really like the Q701 already. One commenter said he thought the q701 sound stage was exagerated. I didsgree, but beauty is in the ear of the beholder. Mary