Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

[Dane Trethowan]

The Echo Dot is the smaller unit right? Does it run on battery power too?

> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 6:58 am, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> I just got the Echo Dot to try it out as I already have a Hive home connected 
> system. I can control some lights and the central heating thermostat with it. 
> It's fairly rudimentary but has a lot of potential  that I hope will be 
> realised in the near future. I've found it handy for a quick news summary, 
> checking my local train service, and for simple questions and even a casual 
> dip into radio such as BBC radio 4. Overall, I like it enough to anticipate 
> getting its bigger brother for Xmas. 
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Noseworthy
> Sent: 25 November 2016 11:43
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
> 
> Hi:
> 
> In my opinion, if you're not wanting to use Audible, Google home wins the 
> vote; however, if Audible is important, then forget Google home.  I have 
> access to both devices.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:53 PM
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> Subject: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
> 
> All I can say is that Home and Echo are incredibly powerful tools as this 
> article demonstrates all too clearly.
> http://newatlas.com/amazon-echo-vs-google-home/46423/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers_campaign=4cc9032d68-UA-2235360-4_medium=email_term=0_65b67362bd-4cc9032d68-92350869
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RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

[John Gurd]

I just got the Echo Dot to try it out as I already have a Hive home connected 
system. I can control some lights and the central heating thermostat with it. 
It's fairly rudimentary but has a lot of potential  that I hope will be 
realised in the near future. I've found it handy for a quick news summary, 
checking my local train service, and for simple questions and even a casual dip 
into radio such as BBC radio 4. Overall, I like it enough to anticipate getting 
its bigger brother for Xmas. 

John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
Noseworthy
Sent: 25 November 2016 11:43
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

Hi:

In my opinion, if you're not wanting to use Audible, Google home wins the vote; 
however, if Audible is important, then forget Google home.  I have access to 
both devices.

Cheers.


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Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

All I can say is that Home and Echo are incredibly powerful tools as this 
article demonstrates all too clearly.
http://newatlas.com/amazon-echo-vs-google-home/46423/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers_campaign=4cc9032d68-UA-2235360-4_medium=email_term=0_65b67362bd-4cc9032d68-92350869

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Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!
Just changing subject slightly if I may.
You mentioned you had a cochlea implant so congratulations to you and I 
sincerely hope that the implant will serve you well for many hears.
I too have been undergoing an assessment and tests for an implant over the last 
6 months and I had to make the decision a fortnight ago as to whether to go 
ahead with the surgery, in my case I decided agains the implant for the time 
being, my music and my Hi-fi mean far too much to me at the moment, I can still 
hear my equipment, the hearing instruments I’m currently using sound great! and 
I can still hear people talk in a room though - in say 12 months will the 
status quo apply? We’ll see and I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it.
Anyway good luck and let us know how you find music with your implant.

> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 3:27 am, André van Deventer  
> wrote:
> 
> Dane
> 
> Thanx.  It's not impossible to use it but extremely irritating.  And I must 
> say I'm not impressed with the sound quality of Bluetooth at all!
> 
> Thanx
> 
> André
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone
> 
> That’s correct yes, the device turns power off when Bluetooth isn’t being 
> used in order to save battery.
> Remember that these adaptive devices are only meant to come into play when 
> the phone rings and there’s a steady stream of Bluetooth data being generated 
> thus the power stays on.
> 
>> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 2:33 am, John Covici  wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is controlled by your device, for my bluetooth
>> headphones, vo works fine without stuttering.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:06:43 -0500,
>> André van Deventer wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth
>>> connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection
>>> keeps switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.
>>> This means that I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when
>>> the connection starts up again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on
>>> the iphone which will allow you to keep the Bluetooth connection
>>> active for a longer period when it is inactive?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> André
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes, its useable but you’ve pointed out the problems.
First thing I would say is that your device is using an earlier version of 
Bluetooth, I’ve not seen Bluetooth 4.0 or later time out like this, what you’re 
describing is all to familiar to me and the quality factor you described would 
indicate to me that an earlier version of Bluetooth is being used.
The Samsung Galaxy S6 phone has a way around this problem, its rather an 
unusual way of tackling the problem but I have to say it works.
Okay, suppose you really want this device for taking phone calls when they come 
in or when you’re dialling out, you can set the Samsung to only use the device 
for the phone thus all your other speech and sound - until you’re on a call - 
comes out through the speakers or connected headphones.
Again, crude but I’ve found it very effective.
 
> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 3:27 am, André van Deventer  
> wrote:
> 
> Dane
> 
> Thanx.  It's not impossible to use it but extremely irritating.  And I must 
> say I'm not impressed with the sound quality of Bluetooth at all!
> 
> Thanx
> 
> André
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone
> 
> That’s correct yes, the device turns power off when Bluetooth isn’t being 
> used in order to save battery.
> Remember that these adaptive devices are only meant to come into play when 
> the phone rings and there’s a steady stream of Bluetooth data being generated 
> thus the power stays on.
> 
>> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 2:33 am, John Covici  wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is controlled by your device, for my bluetooth
>> headphones, vo works fine without stuttering.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:06:43 -0500,
>> André van Deventer wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth
>>> connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection
>>> keeps switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.
>>> This means that I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when
>>> the connection starts up again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on
>>> the iphone which will allow you to keep the Bluetooth connection
>>> active for a longer period when it is inactive?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> André
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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RE: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[André van Deventer]

Dane

Thanx.  It's not impossible to use it but extremely irritating.  And I must say 
I'm not impressed with the sound quality of Bluetooth at all!

Thanx

André

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:19 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

That’s correct yes, the device turns power off when Bluetooth isn’t being used 
in order to save battery.
Remember that these adaptive devices are only meant to come into play when the 
phone rings and there’s a steady stream of Bluetooth data being generated thus 
the power stays on.

> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 2:33 am, John Covici  wrote:
>
> I think this is controlled by your device, for my bluetooth
> headphones, vo works fine without stuttering.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:06:43 -0500,
> André van Deventer wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth
>> connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection
>> keeps switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.
>> This means that I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when
>> the connection starts up again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on
>> the iphone which will allow you to keep the Bluetooth connection
>> active for a longer period when it is inactive?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> André
>>
>>
>>
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RE: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[André van Deventer]

Tony

So this is quite possibly a problem with the device itself and cannot be
fixed on the phone?

The problem is worse here now.  |The Bluetooth must be enabled when the
system starts up again but also the wireless on my cochlear implant device
must be enabled also resulting in an even longer delay.
Regards

André


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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:17 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

This is a problem with all of the Bluetooth transmitters I have tried.  The
signal drops after an interval of no audio.  The delay varies from less than
a second to several seconds, depending on device.  The problem is when the
audio returns there is a delay while the Bluetooth devices go through their
handshake protocol.  This causes a loss of the beginning of the audio.  One
of my devices looses over 5 seconds every time although it is usually only a
second or so.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:05 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

Let us hope this is not the case.  This specific device can be compared to
Bluetooth headphones yes.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Cc: bl...@napsa.org.za; dbtech...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

I think this is controlled by your device, for my bluetooth headphones, vo
works fine without stuttering.

Hope this helps.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:06:43 -0500,
André van Deventer wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
>  
> 
> I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth 
> connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection 
> keeps switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.
> This means that I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when 
> the connection starts up again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on 
> the iphone which will allow you to keep the Bluetooth connection 
> active for a longer period when it is inactive?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> André
> 
> 
> 
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Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[Dane Trethowan]

That’s correct yes, the device turns power off when Bluetooth isn’t being used 
in order to save battery.
Remember that these adaptive devices are only meant to come into play when the 
phone rings and there’s a steady stream of Bluetooth data being generated thus 
the power stays on.

> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 2:33 am, John Covici  wrote:
> 
> I think this is controlled by your device, for my bluetooth
> headphones, vo works fine without stuttering.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:06:43 -0500,
> André van Deventer wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth
>> connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection keeps
>> switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.  This means that
>> I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when the connection starts up
>> again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on the iphone which will allow you
>> to keep the Bluetooth connection active for a longer period when it is
>> inactive?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> André
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[Tony]

This is a problem with all of the Bluetooth transmitters I have tried.  The
signal drops after an interval of no audio.  The delay varies from less than
a second to several seconds, depending on device.  The problem is when the
audio returns there is a delay while the Bluetooth devices go through their
handshake protocol.  This causes a loss of the beginning of the audio.  One
of my devices looses over 5 seconds every time although it is usually only a
second or so.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:05 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

Let us hope this is not the case.  This specific device can be compared to
Bluetooth headphones yes.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Cc: bl...@napsa.org.za; dbtech...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

I think this is controlled by your device, for my bluetooth headphones, vo
works fine without stuttering.

Hope this helps.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:06:43 -0500,
André van Deventer wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
>  
> 
> I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth 
> connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection 
> keeps switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.
> This means that I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when 
> the connection starts up again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on 
> the iphone which will allow you to keep the Bluetooth connection 
> active for a longer period when it is inactive?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> André
> 
> 
> 
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RE: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[André van Deventer]

Let us hope this is not the case.  This specific device can be compared to
Bluetooth headphones yes.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Cc: bl...@napsa.org.za; dbtech...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

I think this is controlled by your device, for my bluetooth headphones, vo
works fine without stuttering.

Hope this helps.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:06:43 -0500,
André van Deventer wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth
> connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection
> keeps switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.
> This means that I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when
> the connection starts up again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on
> the iphone which will allow you to keep the Bluetooth connection
> active for a longer period when it is inactive?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> André
>
>
>
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Re: keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[John Covici]

I think this is controlled by your device, for my bluetooth
headphones, vo works fine without stuttering.

Hope this helps.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:06:43 -0500,
André van Deventer wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
>  
> 
> I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth
> connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection keeps
> switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.  This means that
> I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when the connection starts up
> again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on the iphone which will allow you
> to keep the Bluetooth connection active for a longer period when it is
> inactive?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> André
> 
> 
> 
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keeping bluetooth running on the iphone

[André van Deventer]

Hi all



I am using an adaptive device on my iphone which requires a bluetooth
connection.  One problem I do have is that the Bluetooth connection keeps
switching off every 2 or 3 seconds if there is no activity.  This means that
I lose quite a bit of what voiceover is saying when the connection starts up
again.  I am wonder if there is a setting on the iphone which will allow you
to keep the Bluetooth connection active for a longer period when it is
inactive?



Regards



André



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