Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-04 Thread Gary Wood
This has been a good thread, I think; but I heard that Yamaha has a compact 
surround sound that's 5.1, but it all comes out of one speaker.  That's hard 
to believe, unless all those chanels get wrapped inside the equipment?  It 
has all the settings it has on mine, and I believe it costs $1400.  I 
probably paid $11 or $1200 for mine,  and the total wattage is 100.  Now 
Bose has something called Accustomass receiver.  That's supposed to have 
surround sound too.  I heard it once, and I thought it sounded pretty good 
for it's size.  It costs $1400.   It has the array in the middle front with 
speakers in it, I assume, and they said on t their website that the sides 
are Gemstone speakers.  I'm not sure what they are.  Beelieve it or not.
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Yeah, he's right from what I've heard too. Don't forget though I'm talking
channals. So, how would one pan al of these and assign them to all these
speakers? Until that's figured out, I don't get the point of having so 
many
speakers. I mean, there already are disagreements about 7.1 being done 
right

or at all, there are no 9.2 movies yet. But yeah any ways, I'm just
wandering is all.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Well I think I heard once that in a recording studio, there's at least 16
tracks that are recorded.  I talked to a fellow I know who makes music 
from
time to time, and he said that there's no limits to how many tracks that 
can

be recorded in a piece.  I think it makes sense to me.
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Well, to be honest, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that to really
replicate your hearing you would have to do 13.1. In other words, have
high frunts like you do, high sides, and high rears. I mean, you hear
things from above too right? But they would have to figure out how to
pan things vertically straight up or down. Which would also mean more
audio tracks as well. I don't know does this sound right or what?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and rear
center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is
dependent upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison
dvd called black white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from
every speaker/channel, the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just
beyond amazing. if you love that type of music thats a must to have.
Cd/Dvd Duplication  Custom Printing

Customer Service

Les Gordon
Phone: (866)356-2602
Fax: (866)873-2694
Email: mr...@comcast.net
Web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com




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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Interesting. I'll have to listen to it my self I guess. We'll see.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:30 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned
portions, it still gives a slightly more immersive sound.

They are now offering 7.2 channels with some receivers.  I think the
second speaker in back sits up higher to again give more depth and
location signature.  I haven't heard such a set up to tell though.

Even with my old 5.1 disks, the sound seems fuller even if it's not
really.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:07 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of
what those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an
example. We all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there
are only 5 different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They
didn't really add anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I
guess what they are saying even with your example is you are hearing
the same thing

RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-04 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah yeah, sound bars. I don't really believe in thoughs. You nead all 5
speakers or 7 speakers there's no way out of it if you want the true thing.
Even the companion 5 ones I'm using are just 2 speakers and supposedly they
are 5.1. Fake 5.1 is what they are, exaggerated stereo is what it is. Nop,
sorry, you need all the speakers if you want the true experience. So you
have to choose, a pretty living room whith no wires every ware, or the true
theater experience. Maybe it's just me, but that's why I think they came out
with these kinds of things to start with. But anyways. That's for another
thread. That's beyond the point of this one.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 4:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

This has been a good thread, I think; but I heard that Yamaha has a compact
surround sound that's 5.1, but it all comes out of one speaker.  That's hard
to believe, unless all those chanels get wrapped inside the equipment?  It
has all the settings it has on mine, and I believe it costs $1400.  I
probably paid $11 or $1200 for mine,  and the total wattage is 100.  Now
Bose has something called Accustomass receiver.  That's supposed to have
surround sound too.  I heard it once, and I thought it sounded pretty good 
for it's size.  It costs $1400.   It has the array in the middle front with 
speakers in it, I assume, and they said on t their website that the sides
are Gemstone speakers.  I'm not sure what they are.  Beelieve it or not.
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Yeah, he's right from what I've heard too. Don't forget though I'm 
 talking channals. So, how would one pan al of these and assign them to 
 all these speakers? Until that's figured out, I don't get the point of 
 having so many speakers. I mean, there already are disagreements about 
 7.1 being done right or at all, there are no 9.2 movies yet. But yeah 
 any ways, I'm just wandering is all.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Gary Wood
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:45 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Well I think I heard once that in a recording studio, there's at least 
 16 tracks that are recorded.  I talked to a fellow I know who makes 
 music from time to time, and he said that there's no limits to how 
 many tracks that can be recorded in a piece.  I think it makes sense 
 to me.
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Well, to be honest, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that to really 
 replicate your hearing you would have to do 13.1. In other words, 
 have high frunts like you do, high sides, and high rears. I mean, you 
 hear things from above too right? But they would have to figure out 
 how to pan things vertically straight up or down. Which would also 
 mean more audio tracks as well. I don't know does this sound right or
what?

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Les Gordon
 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:35 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and 
 rear center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is 
 dependent upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison 
 dvd called black white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from 
 every speaker/channel, the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just 
 beyond amazing. if you love that type of music thats a must to have.
 Cd/Dvd Duplication  Custom Printing

 Customer Service

 Les Gordon
 Phone: (866)356-2602
 Fax: (866)873-2694
 Email: mr...@comcast.net
 Web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com




 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:26 PM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Interesting. I'll have to listen to it my self I guess. We'll see.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:30 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned 
 portions, it still gives a slightly more immersive sound

Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-04 Thread Les Gordon
i am researching the dennon receivers right now. so i'll post once i have 
more info. they make 2 that are very interesting one is in the $2,000 range 
and the other is in the $3,000 range.


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- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Ah yeah, sound bars. I don't really believe in thoughs. You nead all 5
speakers or 7 speakers there's no way out of it if you want the true 
thing.
Even the companion 5 ones I'm using are just 2 speakers and supposedly 
they

are 5.1. Fake 5.1 is what they are, exaggerated stereo is what it is. Nop,
sorry, you need all the speakers if you want the true experience. So you
have to choose, a pretty living room whith no wires every ware, or the 
true
theater experience. Maybe it's just me, but that's why I think they came 
out

with these kinds of things to start with. But anyways. That's for another
thread. That's beyond the point of this one.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 4:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

This has been a good thread, I think; but I heard that Yamaha has a 
compact
surround sound that's 5.1, but it all comes out of one speaker.  That's 
hard

to believe, unless all those chanels get wrapped inside the equipment?  It
has all the settings it has on mine, and I believe it costs $1400.  I
probably paid $11 or $1200 for mine,  and the total wattage is 100.  Now
Bose has something called Accustomass receiver.  That's supposed to have
surround sound too.  I heard it once, and I thought it sounded pretty good
for it's size.  It costs $1400.   It has the array in the middle front 
with

speakers in it, I assume, and they said on t their website that the sides
are Gemstone speakers.  I'm not sure what they are.  Beelieve it or not.
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Yeah, he's right from what I've heard too. Don't forget though I'm
talking channals. So, how would one pan al of these and assign them to
all these speakers? Until that's figured out, I don't get the point of
having so many speakers. I mean, there already are disagreements about
7.1 being done right or at all, there are no 9.2 movies yet. But yeah
any ways, I'm just wandering is all.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Well I think I heard once that in a recording studio, there's at least
16 tracks that are recorded.  I talked to a fellow I know who makes
music from time to time, and he said that there's no limits to how
many tracks that can be recorded in a piece.  I think it makes sense
to me.
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Well, to be honest, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that to really
replicate your hearing you would have to do 13.1. In other words,
have high frunts like you do, high sides, and high rears. I mean, you
hear things from above too right? But they would have to figure out
how to pan things vertically straight up or down. Which would also
mean more audio tracks as well. I don't know does this sound right or

what?


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and
rear center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is
dependent upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison
dvd called black white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from
every speaker/channel, the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just
beyond amazing. if you love that type of music thats a must to have.
Cd/Dvd Duplication  Custom Printing

Customer Service

Les Gordon
Phone: (866)356-2602
Fax: (866)873-2694
Email: mr...@comcast.net
Web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com




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From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: RE

RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-04 Thread Hamit Campos
Well I wanted a $3000 surround sound system already anyways.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 12:22 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

i am researching the dennon receivers right now. so i'll post once i have
more info. they make 2 that are very interesting one is in the $2,000 range
and the other is in the $3,000 range.

Cd/Dvd Duplication  Custom Printing

Customer Service

Les Gordon
Phone: (866)356-2602
Fax: (866)873-2694
Email: mr...@comcast.net
Web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com




- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Ah yeah, sound bars. I don't really believe in thoughs. You nead all 5
 speakers or 7 speakers there's no way out of it if you want the true 
 thing.
 Even the companion 5 ones I'm using are just 2 speakers and supposedly 
 they
 are 5.1. Fake 5.1 is what they are, exaggerated stereo is what it is. Nop,
 sorry, you need all the speakers if you want the true experience. So you
 have to choose, a pretty living room whith no wires every ware, or the 
 true
 theater experience. Maybe it's just me, but that's why I think they came 
 out
 with these kinds of things to start with. But anyways. That's for another
 thread. That's beyond the point of this one.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Gary Wood
 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 4:04 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 This has been a good thread, I think; but I heard that Yamaha has a 
 compact
 surround sound that's 5.1, but it all comes out of one speaker.  That's 
 hard
 to believe, unless all those chanels get wrapped inside the equipment?  It
 has all the settings it has on mine, and I believe it costs $1400.  I
 probably paid $11 or $1200 for mine,  and the total wattage is 100.  Now
 Bose has something called Accustomass receiver.  That's supposed to have
 surround sound too.  I heard it once, and I thought it sounded pretty good
 for it's size.  It costs $1400.   It has the array in the middle front 
 with
 speakers in it, I assume, and they said on t their website that the sides
 are Gemstone speakers.  I'm not sure what they are.  Beelieve it or not.
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:25 AM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Yeah, he's right from what I've heard too. Don't forget though I'm
 talking channals. So, how would one pan al of these and assign them to
 all these speakers? Until that's figured out, I don't get the point of
 having so many speakers. I mean, there already are disagreements about
 7.1 being done right or at all, there are no 9.2 movies yet. But yeah
 any ways, I'm just wandering is all.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Gary Wood
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:45 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Well I think I heard once that in a recording studio, there's at least
 16 tracks that are recorded.  I talked to a fellow I know who makes
 music from time to time, and he said that there's no limits to how
 many tracks that can be recorded in a piece.  I think it makes sense
 to me.
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Well, to be honest, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that to really
 replicate your hearing you would have to do 13.1. In other words,
 have high frunts like you do, high sides, and high rears. I mean, you
 hear things from above too right? But they would have to figure out
 how to pan things vertically straight up or down. Which would also
 mean more audio tracks as well. I don't know does this sound right or
 what?

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Les Gordon
 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:35 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and
 rear center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is
 dependent upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison
 dvd called black white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from
 every speaker/channel, the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just
 beyond amazing. if you love

Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-03 Thread Gary Wood
Well I think I heard once that in a recording studio, there's at least 16 
tracks that are recorded.  I talked to a fellow I know who makes music from 
time to time, and he said that there's no limits to how many tracks that can 
be recorded in a piece.  I think it makes sense to me.
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Well, to be honest, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that to really replicate
your hearing you would have to do 13.1. In other words, have high frunts
like you do, high sides, and high rears. I mean, you hear things from 
above

too right? But they would have to figure out how to pan things vertically
straight up or down. Which would also mean more audio tracks as well. I
don't know does this sound right or what?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and rear
center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is dependent
upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison dvd called 
black

white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from every speaker/channel,
the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just beyond amazing. if you love
that type of music thats a must to have.
Cd/Dvd Duplication  Custom Printing

Customer Service

Les Gordon
Phone: (866)356-2602
Fax: (866)873-2694
Email: mr...@comcast.net
Web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com




- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Interesting. I'll have to listen to it my self I guess. We'll see.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:30 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned
portions,
it still gives a slightly more immersive sound.

They are now offering 7.2 channels with some receivers.  I think the
second
speaker in back sits up higher to again give more depth and location
signature.  I haven't heard such a set up to tell though.

Even with my old 5.1 disks, the sound seems fuller even if it's not
really.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:07 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of 
what

those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an example. We
all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there are only 5
different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They didn't really
add
anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess what they are saying
even with your example is you are hearing the same thing you've always
heard
out of the 2 side speakers I guess it would be, but now from the back 
too?



I
don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self.
My
friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over to
Tims
and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I don't know,
maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and then I do miss 
out

on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 7.1 movie, please let
me
know either here or off list if it really true, or if it's just marketing
hipe like those guys say.

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even
though I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and
Yamaha have and what others

Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-03 Thread Gary Wood
Well in my humble opinion, I could say thqat there might be, but you'd need 
to ask someone who is a professional in this field.  Sounds good anyway.
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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


Interesting. Yeah, I'm not saying it's not good, what I'm saying is if 
there

really is something to the whole 7.1 thing. Are there 2 more audio tracks
that weren't there before on the Blu-rays? That's what I have to find out.

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On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:29 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

I think all this stuff is great, but I once heard some audiophile say that
the more speakers you add, the quality goes down, but I hope not.  I have 
an

Onchio AV Receiver that's a 7.1, but I have five speakers; but I set my
receiver on the 7.1 position, even though it has only five speakers.  I 
only
know that it still sounds great to me.  I use it for great music, as well 
as

TV and movies.  I think it's great!
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From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of
what those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an
example. We all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there
are only 5 different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They
didn't really add anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess
what they are saying even with your example is you are hearing the
same thing you've always heard out of the 2 side speakers I guess it
would be, but now from the back too?
I
don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self.
My
friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over
to Tims and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I
don't know, maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and
then I do miss out on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a
7.1 movie, please let me know either here or off list if it really
true, or if it's just marketing hipe like those guys say.

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On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers
are clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers
can convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely

amazing.

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even
though I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and
Yamaha have and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1
surround sound. As you may or may not know, there are a lot of
Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled.
Now
some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true
7.1 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if
it is fake or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people
wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really
mean like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying
2 more speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and
Onkyo but will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah, I'm sure they do. As for the 7.1 thing, yeah I could ask a Pro, but I
could so check it out my self. See here is the thing, if it is true, then
when you watch the 7.1 version of Jurrasic park then you should hear 2 more
sets of sounds out of the 2 back speakers that you never heard before. If it
is not, then like I figured I guess you'll hear everything you are use to in
5.1, but just out of 2 more speakers. But it would be the same things you've
always heard on speeakers 5 and 6.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:48 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Well in my humble opinion, I could say thqat there might be, but you'd need
to ask someone who is a professional in this field.  Sounds good anyway.
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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Interesting. Yeah, I'm not saying it's not good, what I'm saying is if 
 there really is something to the whole 7.1 thing. Are there 2 more 
 audio tracks that weren't there before on the Blu-rays? That's what I 
 have to find out.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Gary Wood
 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:29 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 I think all this stuff is great, but I once heard some audiophile say 
 that the more speakers you add, the quality goes down, but I hope not.  
 I have an Onchio AV Receiver that's a 7.1, but I have five speakers; 
 but I set my receiver on the 7.1 position, even though it has only 
 five speakers.  I only know that it still sounds great to me.  I use 
 it for great music, as well as TV and movies.  I think it's great!
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:06 AM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of 
 what those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an 
 example. We all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there 
 are only 5 different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They 
 didn't really add anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I 
 guess what they are saying even with your example is you are hearing 
 the same thing you've always heard out of the 2 side speakers I guess 
 it would be, but now from the back too?
 I
 don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self.
 My
 friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over 
 to Tims and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I 
 don't know, maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and 
 then I do miss out on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a
 7.1 movie, please let me know either here or off list if it really 
 true, or if it's just marketing hipe like those guys say.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Les Gordon
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers 
 are clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the 
 receivers can convert to whatever format your running. the sound is 
 absolutely
 amazing.
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 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because 
 even though I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what 
 Onkyo and Yamaha have and what others may have because Bose doesn't 
 do 7.1 surround sound. As you may or may not know, there are a lot 
 of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled.
 Now
 some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no 
 true
 7.1 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure 
 if it is fake or not. I would also think that if it were fake, 
 people wouldn't hav it.
 Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really 
 mean like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying
 2 more speakers for nothing.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf

RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah, he's right from what I've heard too. Don't forget though I'm talking
channals. So, how would one pan al of these and assign them to all these
speakers? Until that's figured out, I don't get the point of having so many
speakers. I mean, there already are disagreements about 7.1 being done right
or at all, there are no 9.2 movies yet. But yeah any ways, I'm just
wandering is all.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Well I think I heard once that in a recording studio, there's at least 16
tracks that are recorded.  I talked to a fellow I know who makes music from
time to time, and he said that there's no limits to how many tracks that can
be recorded in a piece.  I think it makes sense to me.
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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
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 Well, to be honest, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that to really 
 replicate your hearing you would have to do 13.1. In other words, have 
 high frunts like you do, high sides, and high rears. I mean, you hear 
 things from above too right? But they would have to figure out how to 
 pan things vertically straight up or down. Which would also mean more 
 audio tracks as well. I don't know does this sound right or what?

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 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Les Gordon
 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:35 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and rear 
 center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is 
 dependent upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison 
 dvd called black white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from 
 every speaker/channel, the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just 
 beyond amazing. if you love that type of music thats a must to have.
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 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:26 PM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Interesting. I'll have to listen to it my self I guess. We'll see.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:30 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned 
 portions, it still gives a slightly more immersive sound.

 They are now offering 7.2 channels with some receivers.  I think the 
 second speaker in back sits up higher to again give more depth and 
 location signature.  I haven't heard such a set up to tell though.

 Even with my old 5.1 disks, the sound seems fuller even if it's not 
 really.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:07 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of 
 what those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an 
 example. We all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there 
 are only 5 different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They 
 didn't really add anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I 
 guess what they are saying even with your example is you are hearing 
 the same thing you've always heard out of the 2 side speakers I guess 
 it would be, but now from the back too?

 I
 don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self.
 My
 friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over 
 to Tims and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I 
 don't know, maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and 
 then I do miss out on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 
 7.1 movie, please let me know either here or off list if it really 
 true, or if it's just marketing hipe like those guys say.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Les Gordon
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system

Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-02 Thread Gary Wood
In the future, maybe there could be no limit to how many speakers you could 
have, providing you have the room!
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From: Les Gordon mr...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are 
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can 
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.

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From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
though

I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
Now

some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
fake

or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
but

will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-02 Thread Gary Wood
I think all this stuff is great, but I once heard some audiophile say that 
the more speakers you add, the quality goes down, but I hope not.  I have an 
Onchio AV Receiver that's a 7.1, but I have five speakers; but I set my 
receiver on the 7.1 position, even though it has only five speakers.  I only 
know that it still sounds great to me.  I use it for great music, as well as 
TV and movies.  I think it's great!
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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of what
those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an example. We
all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there are only 5
different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They didn't really 
add

anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess what they are saying
even with your example is you are hearing the same thing you've always 
heard
out of the 2 side speakers I guess it would be, but now from the back too? 
I
don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self. 
My
friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over to 
Tims

and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I don't know,
maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and then I do miss out
on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 7.1 movie, please let 
me

know either here or off list if it really true, or if it's just marketing
hipe like those guys say.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even
though
I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As
you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled.
Now
some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is
fake
or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo
but
will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-02 Thread Gary Wood
Hey Les!  I hope that other receiver manufacturers get on board with 9.2, 
then.
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Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


what i'd suggest is take 2 or 3 of your favorite movies if you have bluray 
and go to a store that has 7.1 or higher receivers setup and listen for 
yourself. i am super picky with quality of the sound, and i'm super glad i 
made the upgrade.


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So did they add 2 more tracks I guess it would be for the 2 extra 
speakers

then? I mean, what I keep hearing on youtube is like I just posted in
response to another E-mail is that these guys just spliced the 
assignments
that were already there to the 2 other speakers and so it's not true real 
3D

surround sound. You are still hearing what you've always heard in the 5.1
version of Jurrasic Park for instance, just out of 2 more speakers. So
you're saying that's not true then? You are saying that there really are 
2

more channals? If so, then Bose had better get on with it and make a 7.1
system chop chop, and I guess I was right then. There really is something 
to

it.

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On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:08 AM
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Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

I have a 7.1 set up and it does work.  The effects are subtle but 
noticeable

as an enhancement to the general ambient sound.

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:44 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
though

I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
Now

some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
fake

or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
but

will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-02 Thread Les Gordon
there making room for more speakers so you can have multi room setups with 
speakers plus still enjoy the same suround sound features.


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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


In the future, maybe there could be no limit to how many speakers you 
could have, providing you have the room!
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From: Les Gordon mr...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are 
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can 
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.

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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
though
I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha 
have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
Now
some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 
7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
fake

or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really 
mean

like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
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Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
but

will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-02 Thread Les Gordon

most manufactors have 9.2 options, i think dennon has a 9.3 now.

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Hey Les!  I hope that other receiver manufacturers get on board with 9.2, 
then.
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what i'd suggest is take 2 or 3 of your favorite movies if you have 
bluray and go to a store that has 7.1 or higher receivers setup and 
listen for yourself. i am super picky with quality of the sound, and i'm 
super glad i made the upgrade.


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So did they add 2 more tracks I guess it would be for the 2 extra 
speakers

then? I mean, what I keep hearing on youtube is like I just posted in
response to another E-mail is that these guys just spliced the 
assignments
that were already there to the 2 other speakers and so it's not true 
real 3D
surround sound. You are still hearing what you've always heard in the 
5.1

version of Jurrasic Park for instance, just out of 2 more speakers. So
you're saying that's not true then? You are saying that there really are 
2

more channals? If so, then Bose had better get on with it and make a 7.1
system chop chop, and I guess I was right then. There really is 
something to

it.

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Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

I have a 7.1 set up and it does work.  The effects are subtle but 
noticeable

as an enhancement to the general ambient sound.

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On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:44 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
though
I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha 
have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
Now
some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 
7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
fake

or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really 
mean

like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
but

will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-02 Thread Hamit Campos
Well, to be honest, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that to really replicate
your hearing you would have to do 13.1. In other words, have high frunts
like you do, high sides, and high rears. I mean, you hear things from above
too right? But they would have to figure out how to pan things vertically
straight up or down. Which would also mean more audio tracks as well. I
don't know does this sound right or what?

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Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and rear
center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is dependent
upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison dvd called black
white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from every speaker/channel,
the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just beyond amazing. if you love
that type of music thats a must to have.
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Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Interesting. I'll have to listen to it my self I guess. We'll see.

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 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:30 PM
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 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned 
 portions,
 it still gives a slightly more immersive sound.

 They are now offering 7.2 channels with some receivers.  I think the 
 second
 speaker in back sits up higher to again give more depth and location
 signature.  I haven't heard such a set up to tell though.

 Even with my old 5.1 disks, the sound seems fuller even if it's not 
 really.

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 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:07 AM
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 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of what
 those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an example. We
 all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there are only 5
 different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They didn't really 
 add
 anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess what they are saying
 even with your example is you are hearing the same thing you've always 
 heard
 out of the 2 side speakers I guess it would be, but now from the back too?

 I
 don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self. 
 My
 friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over to 
 Tims
 and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I don't know,
 maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and then I do miss out
 on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 7.1 movie, please let 
 me
 know either here or off list if it really true, or if it's just marketing
 hipe like those guys say.

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 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are
 clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can
 convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.
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 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even
 though I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and
 Yamaha have and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1
 surround sound. As you may or may not know, there are a lot of
 Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled.
 Now
 some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true
 7.1 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if
 it is fake or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people
 wouldn't hav it.
 Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really
 mean like

RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-02 Thread Hamit Campos
Interesting. Yeah, I'm not saying it's not good, what I'm saying is if there
really is something to the whole 7.1 thing. Are there 2 more audio tracks
that weren't there before on the Blu-rays? That's what I have to find out.

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On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:29 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

I think all this stuff is great, but I once heard some audiophile say that
the more speakers you add, the quality goes down, but I hope not.  I have an
Onchio AV Receiver that's a 7.1, but I have five speakers; but I set my
receiver on the 7.1 position, even though it has only five speakers.  I only
know that it still sounds great to me.  I use it for great music, as well as
TV and movies.  I think it's great!
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 Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of 
 what those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an 
 example. We all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there 
 are only 5 different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They 
 didn't really add anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess 
 what they are saying even with your example is you are hearing the 
 same thing you've always heard out of the 2 side speakers I guess it 
 would be, but now from the back too?
 I
 don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self. 
 My
 friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over 
 to Tims and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I 
 don't know, maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and 
 then I do miss out on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 
 7.1 movie, please let me know either here or off list if it really 
 true, or if it's just marketing hipe like those guys say.

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 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Les Gordon
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers 
 are clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers 
 can convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely
amazing.
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 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
 though I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and 
 Yamaha have and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 
 surround sound. As you may or may not know, there are a lot of 
 Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled.
 Now
 some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 
 7.1 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if 
 it is fake or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people 
 wouldn't hav it.
 Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really 
 mean like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 
 2 more speakers for nothing.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Hi Dane,

 Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and 
 Onkyo but will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

 Best,
 Norma



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AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Norma A. Boge
Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo but
will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even though
I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. Now
some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is fake
or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

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On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo but
will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Les Gordon
hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are 
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can 
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.

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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
though

I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
Now

some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
fake

or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
but

will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
I have a 7.1 set up and it does work.  The effects are subtle but noticeable as 
an enhancement to the general ambient sound.

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Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:44 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even though
I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. Now
some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is fake
or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo but
will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of what
those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an example. We
all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there are only 5
different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They didn't really add
anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess what they are saying
even with your example is you are hearing the same thing you've always heard
out of the 2 side speakers I guess it would be, but now from the back too? I
don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self. My
friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over to Tims
and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I don't know,
maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and then I do miss out
on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 7.1 movie, please let me
know either here or off list if it really true, or if it's just marketing
hipe like those guys say.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
 though
 I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
 and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
 you
 may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
 Now
 some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
 fake
 or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
 Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
 like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
 speakers for nothing.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Hi Dane,

 Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
 but
 will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

 Best,
 Norma



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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Hamit Campos
So did they add 2 more tracks I guess it would be for the 2 extra speakers
then? I mean, what I keep hearing on youtube is like I just posted in
response to another E-mail is that these guys just spliced the assignments
that were already there to the 2 other speakers and so it's not true real 3D
surround sound. You are still hearing what you've always heard in the 5.1
version of Jurrasic Park for instance, just out of 2 more speakers. So
you're saying that's not true then? You are saying that there really are 2
more channals? If so, then Bose had better get on with it and make a 7.1
system chop chop, and I guess I was right then. There really is something to
it.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:08 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

I have a 7.1 set up and it does work.  The effects are subtle but noticeable
as an enhancement to the general ambient sound.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:44 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even though
I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. Now
some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is fake
or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
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Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo but
will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Les Gordon
what i'd suggest is take 2 or 3 of your favorite movies if you have bluray 
and go to a store that has 7.1 or higher receivers setup and listen for 
yourself. i am super picky with quality of the sound, and i'm super glad i 
made the upgrade.


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So did they add 2 more tracks I guess it would be for the 2 extra speakers
then? I mean, what I keep hearing on youtube is like I just posted in
response to another E-mail is that these guys just spliced the assignments
that were already there to the 2 other speakers and so it's not true real 
3D

surround sound. You are still hearing what you've always heard in the 5.1
version of Jurrasic Park for instance, just out of 2 more speakers. So
you're saying that's not true then? You are saying that there really are 2
more channals? If so, then Bose had better get on with it and make a 7.1
system chop chop, and I guess I was right then. There really is something 
to

it.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:08 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

I have a 7.1 set up and it does work.  The effects are subtle but 
noticeable

as an enhancement to the general ambient sound.

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On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:44 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
though

I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
you
may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
Now

some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
fake

or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
but

will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned portions, it 
still gives a slightly more immersive sound.

They are now offering 7.2 channels with some receivers.  I think the second 
speaker in back sits up higher to again give more depth and location signature. 
 I haven't heard such a set up to tell though.

Even with my old 5.1 disks, the sound seems fuller even if it's not really.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:07 AM
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Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of what
those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an example. We
all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there are only 5
different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They didn't really add
anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess what they are saying
even with your example is you are hearing the same thing you've always heard
out of the 2 side speakers I guess it would be, but now from the back too? I
don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self. My
friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over to Tims
and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I don't know,
maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and then I do miss out
on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 7.1 movie, please let me
know either here or off list if it really true, or if it's just marketing
hipe like those guys say.

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On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
 though
 I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
 and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
 you
 may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
 Now
 some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
 fake
 or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
 Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
 like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
 speakers for nothing.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Hi Dane,

 Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
 but
 will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

 Best,
 Norma



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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Hamit Campos
That's what I thought. Now, to find a store that has them hooked up I guess.
Thanks. Too bad Tim lives so far.

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:10 AM
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Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

what i'd suggest is take 2 or 3 of your favorite movies if you have bluray
and go to a store that has 7.1 or higher receivers setup and listen for
yourself. i am super picky with quality of the sound, and i'm super glad i
made the upgrade.

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 So did they add 2 more tracks I guess it would be for the 2 extra speakers
 then? I mean, what I keep hearing on youtube is like I just posted in
 response to another E-mail is that these guys just spliced the assignments
 that were already there to the 2 other speakers and so it's not true real 
 3D
 surround sound. You are still hearing what you've always heard in the 5.1
 version of Jurrasic Park for instance, just out of 2 more speakers. So
 you're saying that's not true then? You are saying that there really are 2
 more channals? If so, then Bose had better get on with it and make a 7.1
 system chop chop, and I guess I was right then. There really is something 
 to
 it.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:08 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 I have a 7.1 set up and it does work.  The effects are subtle but 
 noticeable
 as an enhancement to the general ambient sound.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:44 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
 though
 I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and Yamaha have
 and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 surround sound. As 
 you
 may or may not know, there are a lot of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled. 
 Now
 some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 7.1
 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if it is 
 fake
 or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people wouldn't hav it.
 Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really mean
 like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 more
 speakers for nothing.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Hi Dane,

 Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and Onkyo 
 but
 will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

 Best,
 Norma



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RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Interesting. I'll have to listen to it my self I guess. We'll see.

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:30 PM
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Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned portions,
it still gives a slightly more immersive sound.

They are now offering 7.2 channels with some receivers.  I think the second
speaker in back sits up higher to again give more depth and location
signature.  I haven't heard such a set up to tell though.

Even with my old 5.1 disks, the sound seems fuller even if it's not really.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:07 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of what
those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an example. We
all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there are only 5
different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They didn't really add
anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess what they are saying
even with your example is you are hearing the same thing you've always heard
out of the 2 side speakers I guess it would be, but now from the back too? I
don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self. My
friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over to Tims
and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I don't know,
maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and then I do miss out
on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 7.1 movie, please let me
know either here or off list if it really true, or if it's just marketing
hipe like those guys say.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface


 Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even 
 though I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and 
 Yamaha have and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1 
 surround sound. As you may or may not know, there are a lot of 
 Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled.
 Now
 some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true 
 7.1 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if 
 it is fake or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people 
 wouldn't hav it.
 Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really 
 mean like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2 
 more speakers for nothing.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

 Hi Dane,

 Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and 
 Onkyo but will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

 Best,
 Norma



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Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-03-01 Thread Les Gordon
right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and rear 
center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is dependent 
upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison dvd called black 
white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from every speaker/channel, 
the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just beyond amazing. if you love 
that type of music thats a must to have.

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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Interesting. I'll have to listen to it my self I guess. We'll see.

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On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:30 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned 
portions,

it still gives a slightly more immersive sound.

They are now offering 7.2 channels with some receivers.  I think the 
second

speaker in back sits up higher to again give more depth and location
signature.  I haven't heard such a set up to tell though.

Even with my old 5.1 disks, the sound seems fuller even if it's not 
really.


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:07 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point of what
those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for an example. We
all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore there are only 5
different files assigned to the 5 different speakers. They didn't really 
add

anything new assignments for the 2 extra, so I guess what they are saying
even with your example is you are hearing the same thing you've always 
heard
out of the 2 side speakers I guess it would be, but now from the back too? 
I
don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my self. 
My
friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over to 
Tims

and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is, I don't know,
maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true and then I do miss out
on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have heard a 7.1 movie, please let 
me

know either here or off list if it really true, or if it's just marketing
hipe like those guys say.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers are
clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the receivers can
convert to whatever format your running. the sound is absolutely amazing.
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface



Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because even
though I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what Onkyo and
Yamaha have and what others may have because Bose doesn't do 7.1
surround sound. As you may or may not know, there are a lot of
Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled.
Now
some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no true
7.1 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure if
it is fake or not. I would also think that if it were fake, people
wouldn't hav it.
Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would really
mean like those people that insist it's fake say, that you're buying 2
more speakers for nothing.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

Hi Dane,

Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and
Onkyo but will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.

Best,
Norma



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AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-02-27 Thread Norma A. Boge
Hi guys,

Wow, it's great to be back on the list.  I need to find out if anyone knows
how accessible the web interfaces are on home AV receivers.  I know there
are also smart phone apps, but I don't have a smart phone so need to use a
regular PC.  Any and all information would be very much appreciated.

Have a good one...
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Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

2012-02-27 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

I don't have a top of the line Denon AV receiver yet but I know someone who 
does and I've played with it through the web interface without any problem.

As far as accessibility goes with Smartphone apps? That's very problmatic in my 
experience.


On 28/02/2012, at 9:13 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 Wow, it's great to be back on the list.  I need to find out if anyone knows
 how accessible the web interfaces are on home AV receivers.  I know there
 are also smart phone apps, but I don't have a smart phone so need to use a
 regular PC.  Any and all information would be very much appreciated.
 
 Have a good one...
 Norma
 
 
 
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