Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-03 Thread Curtis Delzer
The voice is British Daniel.

Curtis Delzer
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From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


the voice is excellent too! this is another thing to dream about. this would
probably be better than a bar code reader.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Yeah, that's amazing that it has the processing power to do OCR on live
 video. I wonder how that even works?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:46 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi,
 these devices may be able to be made accessible with a new product that
 can
 read the screens on the boxes and menus on the boxes. go to
 www.itex.info for more ifnormation about SiRecogniser and what it can do.
 The best version of it costs about $6000.00 so the state would have to
 get
 it for most of us. but I think based on the demonstration that
 SiRecogniser
 can do so so much more than the KNFB reader can do.

 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skype: jkenn337
 - Original Message - 
 From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already
 is,
 situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not
 be
 accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other
 eye
 disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a
 private
 cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
 analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
 those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up
 in
 the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
 analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
 rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug
 a
 cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
 just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels,
 or
 how does that end up working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-02 Thread Curtis Delzer
What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already is, 
situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not be 
accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other eye 
disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

Curtis Delzer
- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a private
cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up in
the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug a
cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels, or
how does that end up working?

- Original Message - 
From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-02 Thread Josh
Hi,
these devices may be able to be made accessible with a new product that can 
read the screens on the boxes and menus on the boxes. go to
www.itex.info for more ifnormation about SiRecogniser and what it can do. 
The best version of it costs about $6000.00 so the state would have to get 
it for most of us. but I think based on the demonstration that SiRecogniser 
can do so so much more than the KNFB reader can do.

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msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype: jkenn337
- Original Message - 
From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already 
 is,
 situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not be
 accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other 
 eye
 disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a private
 cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
 analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
 those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up in
 the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
 analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
 rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug a
 cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
 just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels, or
 how does that end up working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-02 Thread Brent Harding
Yeah, that's amazing that it has the processing power to do OCR on live 
video. I wonder how that even works?

- Original Message - 
From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi,
 these devices may be able to be made accessible with a new product that 
 can
 read the screens on the boxes and menus on the boxes. go to
 www.itex.info for more ifnormation about SiRecogniser and what it can do.
 The best version of it costs about $6000.00 so the state would have to get
 it for most of us. but I think based on the demonstration that 
 SiRecogniser
 can do so so much more than the KNFB reader can do.

 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skype: jkenn337
 - Original Message - 
 From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already
 is,
 situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not be
 accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other
 eye
 disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a 
 private
 cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
 analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
 those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up in
 the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
 analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
 rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug a
 cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
 just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels, 
 or
 how does that end up working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-02 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Josh,
If you live in the state of Florida, then you're poop out of luck.
My state won't buy anything remotely that expensive an less you can prove 
you have a real need for it.
A way cheaper solution will have to be created for those of us that can't 
afford it.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi,
 these devices may be able to be made accessible with a new product that 
 can
 read the screens on the boxes and menus on the boxes. go to
 www.itex.info for more ifnormation about SiRecogniser and what it can do.
 The best version of it costs about $6000.00 so the state would have to get
 it for most of us. but I think based on the demonstration that 
 SiRecogniser
 can do so so much more than the KNFB reader can do.

 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skype: jkenn337
 - Original Message - 
 From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already
 is,
 situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not be
 accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other
 eye
 disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a 
 private
 cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
 analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
 those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up in
 the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
 analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
 rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug a
 cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
 just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels, 
 or
 how does that end up working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-02 Thread Gary Schindler
the voice is excellent too! this is another thing to dream about. this would 
probably be better than a bar code reader.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Yeah, that's amazing that it has the processing power to do OCR on live
 video. I wonder how that even works?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:46 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi,
 these devices may be able to be made accessible with a new product that
 can
 read the screens on the boxes and menus on the boxes. go to
 www.itex.info for more ifnormation about SiRecogniser and what it can do.
 The best version of it costs about $6000.00 so the state would have to 
 get
 it for most of us. but I think based on the demonstration that
 SiRecogniser
 can do so so much more than the KNFB reader can do.

 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skype: jkenn337
 - Original Message - 
 From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already
 is,
 situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not 
 be
 accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other
 eye
 disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a
 private
 cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
 analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
 those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up 
 in
 the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
 analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
 rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug 
 a
 cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
 just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels,
 or
 how does that end up working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-02 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Rick,
You are absolutely right about that.
A DTV converter is only used in this case, for entertainment purposes only.
  John.
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Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I highly doubt any state agency will buy such a device unless you have a
 job and you can demonstrate that it will make you much more productive.

 Rick
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 High Josh,
 If you live in the state of Florida, then you're poop out of luck.
 My state won't buy anything remotely that expensive an less you can prove
 you have a real need for it.
 A way cheaper solution will have to be created for those of us that can't
 afford it.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi,
 these devices may be able to be made accessible with a new product that
 can
 read the screens on the boxes and menus on the boxes. go to
 www.itex.info for more ifnormation about SiRecogniser and what it can do.
 The best version of it costs about $6000.00 so the state would have to 
 get
 it for most of us. but I think based on the demonstration that
 SiRecogniser
 can do so so much more than the KNFB reader can do.

 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skype: jkenn337
 - Original Message - 
 From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already
 is,
 situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not 
 be
 accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other
 eye
 disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a
 private
 cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
 analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
 those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up 
 in
 the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
 analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
 rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug 
 a
 cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
 just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels,
 or
 how does that end up working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-02 Thread Rick Harmon
 I highly doubt any state agency will buy such a device unless you have a 
job and you can demonstrate that it will make you much more productive.

Rick
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


High Josh,
If you live in the state of Florida, then you're poop out of luck.
My state won't buy anything remotely that expensive an less you can prove
you have a real need for it.
A way cheaper solution will have to be created for those of us that can't
afford it.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi,
 these devices may be able to be made accessible with a new product that
 can
 read the screens on the boxes and menus on the boxes. go to
 www.itex.info for more ifnormation about SiRecogniser and what it can do.
 The best version of it costs about $6000.00 so the state would have to get
 it for most of us. but I think based on the demonstration that
 SiRecogniser
 can do so so much more than the KNFB reader can do.

 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skype: jkenn337
 - Original Message - 
 From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already
 is,
 situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not be
 accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other
 eye
 disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a
 private
 cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
 analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
 those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up in
 the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
 analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
 rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug a
 cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
 just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels,
 or
 how does that end up working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-02 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi,

Sorry I was refering to the scanning device Josh sent us here.

Rick
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Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


High Rick,
You are absolutely right about that.
A DTV converter is only used in this case, for entertainment purposes only.
  John.
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I highly doubt any state agency will buy such a device unless you have a
 job and you can demonstrate that it will make you much more productive.

 Rick
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Josh,
 If you live in the state of Florida, then you're poop out of luck.
 My state won't buy anything remotely that expensive an less you can prove
 you have a real need for it.
 A way cheaper solution will have to be created for those of us that can't
 afford it.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi,
 these devices may be able to be made accessible with a new product that
 can
 read the screens on the boxes and menus on the boxes. go to
 www.itex.info for more ifnormation about SiRecogniser and what it can do.
 The best version of it costs about $6000.00 so the state would have to
 get
 it for most of us. but I think based on the demonstration that
 SiRecogniser
 can do so so much more than the KNFB reader can do.

 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skype: jkenn337
 - Original Message - 
 From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 What is fascinating, sad too, is that there is going to be, and already
 is,
 situations where these computer controlled, menu driven boxes will not
 be
 accessible to those retired with minimal vision, poor vision, and other
 eye
 disorders. I wonder how ... that will be dealt with? :)

 Curtis Delzer
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a
 private
 cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from
 analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert
 those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up
 in
 the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without
 analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the
 rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug
 a
 cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and
 just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels,
 or
 how does that end up working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello Brent,
In the back of your dish receiver, there are 2 coaxial cable jacks.
One of the jacks is the mane output which goes in to your TV.
The other cable jack is the antenna input jack.
This jack will let a signal pass directly to your TV, but you have to power 
down your dish receiver in order for the signal to pass through to your TV.
Where the cable line is, this is where you will put the converter.
Between the cable line and the dish receiver.
My best regards.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I'm wondering also how one might get both boxes hooked to a single TV? As 
 I
 see it, you're probably paying around $6.99 to Dish for the locals that 
 you
 do get without the one they don't carry for whatever reason, in adition to
 whatever package of other channels you would subscribe to. Apparently, I
 have the option of getting Dish at this place, they probably have it in 
 the
 wire with the free 25 analog channels or something. Next year, how can I
 hook up a converter box and the Dish receiver both to the same input on my
 TV, since it only has one coax in? Can I just use a splitter and set one 
 to
 channel 3 and the other to 4 to switch between them, since my TV has only
 one input? I find it odd to pay extra to add locals when cable always has
 them no matter what package you took.

 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:05 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Donald,
 I don't remember who it was, but someone said something about having a
 satellite and or a cable box, a DTV converter is not needed.
 The problem with this for me is, I have Dish Network.
 I get some loco channels, but it wont pick up WCJV.
 Here in Lake City Florida, you have to have either cable or an antenna to
 get that channel.
 I will check out the website you posted and see what they have.
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:29 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
 for $225 from a web site

 http://www.ecost.com

 Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
 unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
 than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
 it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
 and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
 didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
 $500.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread Marsha
Hi
  You really wouldn't need to power down the receiver if you wanted to use 
signals off of the air.  You could hit the tv/sat button.

Marsha


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From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


Hello Brent,
In the back of your dish receiver, there are 2 coaxial cable jacks.
One of the jacks is the mane output which goes in to your TV.
The other cable jack is the antenna input jack.
This jack will let a signal pass directly to your TV, but you have to power
down your dish receiver in order for the signal to pass through to your TV.
Where the cable line is, this is where you will put the converter.
Between the cable line and the dish receiver.
My best regards.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I'm wondering also how one might get both boxes hooked to a single TV? As
 I
 see it, you're probably paying around $6.99 to Dish for the locals that
 you
 do get without the one they don't carry for whatever reason, in adition to
 whatever package of other channels you would subscribe to. Apparently, I
 have the option of getting Dish at this place, they probably have it in
 the
 wire with the free 25 analog channels or something. Next year, how can I
 hook up a converter box and the Dish receiver both to the same input on my
 TV, since it only has one coax in? Can I just use a splitter and set one
 to
 channel 3 and the other to 4 to switch between them, since my TV has only
 one input? I find it odd to pay extra to add locals when cable always has
 them no matter what package you took.

 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:05 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Donald,
 I don't remember who it was, but someone said something about having a
 satellite and or a cable box, a DTV converter is not needed.
 The problem with this for me is, I have Dish Network.
 I get some loco channels, but it wont pick up WCJV.
 Here in Lake City Florida, you have to have either cable or an antenna to
 get that channel.
 I will check out the website you posted and see what they have.
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:29 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
 for $225 from a web site

 http://www.ecost.com

 Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
 unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
 than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
 it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
 and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
 didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
 $500.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread Marsha
Hi
   Perhaps someone can explain this to me in very simple terms.  Since 
satellite signals are digital.  Since The satellite receiver receives the 
digital signal and turns it into analog signals which can be used by the 
analog television.  Why do you need a converter for the analog televisions 
when the switch is made from analog to digital signals.  Thank you for your 
help.

Marsha


- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
for $225 from a web site

http://www.ecost.com

Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

Don Roberts

- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


High Tom,
That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
didn't know.
I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
But if I have to, I will.
But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
$500.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread Gary Schindler
you don't have to power down the dish receiver. on the remote there is a 
button that lets you select between over the air antenna and the signal from 
the dish satellite antenna.
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hello Brent,
 In the back of your dish receiver, there are 2 coaxial cable jacks.
 One of the jacks is the mane output which goes in to your TV.
 The other cable jack is the antenna input jack.
 This jack will let a signal pass directly to your TV, but you have to 
 power
 down your dish receiver in order for the signal to pass through to your 
 TV.
 Where the cable line is, this is where you will put the converter.
 Between the cable line and the dish receiver.
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:25 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I'm wondering also how one might get both boxes hooked to a single TV? As
 I
 see it, you're probably paying around $6.99 to Dish for the locals that
 you
 do get without the one they don't carry for whatever reason, in adition 
 to
 whatever package of other channels you would subscribe to. Apparently, I
 have the option of getting Dish at this place, they probably have it in
 the
 wire with the free 25 analog channels or something. Next year, how can I
 hook up a converter box and the Dish receiver both to the same input on 
 my
 TV, since it only has one coax in? Can I just use a splitter and set one
 to
 channel 3 and the other to 4 to switch between them, since my TV has only
 one input? I find it odd to pay extra to add locals when cable always has
 them no matter what package you took.

 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:05 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Donald,
 I don't remember who it was, but someone said something about having a
 satellite and or a cable box, a DTV converter is not needed.
 The problem with this for me is, I have Dish Network.
 I get some loco channels, but it wont pick up WCJV.
 Here in Lake City Florida, you have to have either cable or an antenna 
 to
 get that channel.
 I will check out the website you posted and see what they have.
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:29 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
 for $225 from a web site

 http://www.ecost.com

 Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
 unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
 than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
 it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
 and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
 didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
 $500.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Marsha,
I did explain that in an earlier post.
Some loco channels can't be picked up with satellite.
But that all depends on where you live.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Marsha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi
   Perhaps someone can explain this to me in very simple terms.  Since
 satellite signals are digital.  Since The satellite receiver receives the
 digital signal and turns it into analog signals which can be used by the
 analog television.  Why do you need a converter for the analog televisions
 when the switch is made from analog to digital signals.  Thank you for 
 your
 help.

 Marsha


 - Original Message - 
 From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:29 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
 for $225 from a web site

 http://www.ecost.com

 Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
 unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
 than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
 it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
 and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
 didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
 $500.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread Brent Harding
Wow, this is even better than I thought. I haven't had it put in yet, so I 
never knew there was another connection to take advantage of the locals that 
are on the analog channels with the Dish signal by just using a splitter off 
the main jack, going in to both inputs on the receiver. It seems this would 
work unless they have to filter out those to have the satellite signal, or 
switch the jack to be wired to it from the other end. Either way, next year, 
rabbit ears to the input of the HD converter box with its output hooked to 
this antenna pass-through should work, assuming the signal is good.


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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hello Brent,
 In the back of your dish receiver, there are 2 coaxial cable jacks.
 One of the jacks is the mane output which goes in to your TV.
 The other cable jack is the antenna input jack.
 This jack will let a signal pass directly to your TV, but you have to 
 power
 down your dish receiver in order for the signal to pass through to your 
 TV.
 Where the cable line is, this is where you will put the converter.
 Between the cable line and the dish receiver.
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:25 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I'm wondering also how one might get both boxes hooked to a single TV? As
 I
 see it, you're probably paying around $6.99 to Dish for the locals that
 you
 do get without the one they don't carry for whatever reason, in adition 
 to
 whatever package of other channels you would subscribe to. Apparently, I
 have the option of getting Dish at this place, they probably have it in
 the
 wire with the free 25 analog channels or something. Next year, how can I
 hook up a converter box and the Dish receiver both to the same input on 
 my
 TV, since it only has one coax in? Can I just use a splitter and set one
 to
 channel 3 and the other to 4 to switch between them, since my TV has only
 one input? I find it odd to pay extra to add locals when cable always has
 them no matter what package you took.

 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:05 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Donald,
 I don't remember who it was, but someone said something about having a
 satellite and or a cable box, a DTV converter is not needed.
 The problem with this for me is, I have Dish Network.
 I get some loco channels, but it wont pick up WCJV.
 Here in Lake City Florida, you have to have either cable or an antenna 
 to
 get that channel.
 I will check out the website you posted and see what they have.
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:29 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
 for $225 from a web site

 http://www.ecost.com

 Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
 unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
 than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
 it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
 and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
 didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
 $500.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something

Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread Tom
Hi Marsha,

The DTV converter boxes are needed only to receive local 
television stations directly over the air and only for older 
television sets that do not have a digital tuner in them.  
Part of the agreement to require television to turn off the 
analog and  transmit only digital signals by February 2009 
was that coupons would be provided to help people purchase 
two of these converter boxes so they would not have to buy a 
new television set.

The reason for the change from analog to digital television 
was done so there would be more spectrum available for cell 
phone companies, wireless devices etc.  The cost of providing 
the coupons was incurred by the companies that purchased the 
spectrum.  The companies paid the United States government 
over eighteen billion dollars for the new spectrum.

Hope this made sense.

Tom

** Original Message From: Marsha **
Hi
   Perhaps someone can explain this to me in very simple 
terms.  Since satellite signals are digital.  Since The 
satellite receiver receives the digital signal and turns it 
into analog signals which can be used by the analog 
television.  Why do you need a converter for the analog 
televisions when the switch is made from analog to digital 
signals.  Thank you for your help.

Marsha




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread Brent Harding
You would use the converter box for the local TV channels that for now are 
being received with a regular antenna. In many areas, satellite carries 
them, but you add $6.99 a month to your monthly package to have locals added 
to it. The box and a pair of rabbit ears sounds like a cheaper option to use 
with satellite than adding the $7 just to get what should be free broadcast 
TV.
- Original Message - 
From: Marsha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi
   Perhaps someone can explain this to me in very simple terms.  Since
 satellite signals are digital.  Since The satellite receiver receives the
 digital signal and turns it into analog signals which can be used by the
 analog television.  Why do you need a converter for the analog televisions
 when the switch is made from analog to digital signals.  Thank you for 
 your
 help.

 Marsha


 - Original Message - 
 From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:29 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
 for $225 from a web site

 http://www.ecost.com

 Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
 unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
 than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
 it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
 and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
 didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
 $500.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-05-01 Thread Brent Harding
I think it's mostly going to ATT and Verizon. I'm not sure if they would do 
anything real new with it, I would guess probably just to allow them to take 
more calls at a time or something.

- Original Message - 
From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hi Marsha,

 The DTV converter boxes are needed only to receive local
 television stations directly over the air and only for older
 television sets that do not have a digital tuner in them.
 Part of the agreement to require television to turn off the
 analog and  transmit only digital signals by February 2009
 was that coupons would be provided to help people purchase
 two of these converter boxes so they would not have to buy a
 new television set.

 The reason for the change from analog to digital television
 was done so there would be more spectrum available for cell
 phone companies, wireless devices etc.  The cost of providing
 the coupons was incurred by the companies that purchased the
 spectrum.  The companies paid the United States government
 over eighteen billion dollars for the new spectrum.

 Hope this made sense.

 Tom

 ** Original Message From: Marsha **
Hi
   Perhaps someone can explain this to me in very simple
terms.  Since satellite signals are digital.  Since The
satellite receiver receives the digital signal and turns it
into analog signals which can be used by the analog
television.  Why do you need a converter for the analog
televisions when the switch is made from analog to digital
signals.  Thank you for your help.

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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-30 Thread Gary Wood
It would be nice if someone could come up with an accessible system for the 
blind.
- Original Message - 
From: djc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hello Tom. I bought one of these just a few days ago for my tv here in the
 office. I was able to hook it up myself but when I turned on the tv after
 switching it to chanel 3 and turned on the box there was no sound and I
 pressed all the buttons on the remote and the box and I couldn't get it to
 scan the chanels. So I had to wait till a friend came over and he briefly
 glanced at the manual and pressed a couple of buttons on the remote and it
 took off. We have 10 regular chanels here in Sacramento and it found 5
 digital chanels. I bought my box at best buy and it's an Insignia. Radio
 shack, walmart and circuit city are also selling the boxes with the cupon
 program. I live on the first floor of an apartment building so an outside
 antenna is not an option. It works pretty well with my rabbit ears but I
 have noted some drop out on some of the chanels so I had to tweak the
 antenna to find the best signal. Lets say I am watching our chanel 10 here
 and I want their digital weather chanel. I just type 102 and that gives me
 the second chanel. All in all I am pleased with the box and it sounds 
 great
 although my tv here in the office is just a small 13 inch mono set that I
 bought when I first married my wife in 1990. Depending on the model of the
 box you buy you may be able to get it running yourself but this one here 
 is
 menus so be aware incase you do need sighted assistance. I was able to 
 find
 the insignia manual online so the manuals should be available online in 
 pdf
 format.

 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 4/29/2008 at 3:58 PM Tom wrote:

Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
available in the United States so an analog television set
can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
they all require a television set to be connected to them.
I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
want to buy a new television set.

The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
telecommunication and other companies for something in the
order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
are doing something similar to this?

Thanks,

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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-30 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Tom,
That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he didn't know.
I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
But if I have to, I will.
But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then $500.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are 
 available in the United States so an analog television set 
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like 
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.  
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used 
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.
 
 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission 
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two 
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two 
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't 
 want to buy a new television set.
 
 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to 
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the 
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries 
 are doing something similar to this?
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-30 Thread Cornell Ligon

Hello,
You ought to be able to buy at least a 30' model for $500 or less. also, I'm 
figuring as long as you can get a signal into the converter box and have 
something to play it back, TV ought not be necessary. I've ran vcr's with no TV 
set using connection via my stereo to pick up TV sound.
Last, if you have a cable or satellite set top box, no digital to analog 
converter box is needed, because the set top box does the conversion from the 
provider. I will say though, when getting a set top box, I alwaays verify audio 
out connections to run into my Home theater system.
 
More info can be found at antennaweb.com
HTH!Best Regards, Cornell From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org 
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:13:12 -0400  High 
Tom, That is something that I am wondering about too as well. I called and 
spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he didn't know. I don't really 
want to buy another TV set either. But if I have to, I will. But I wish that 
I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then $500. John. - Original 
Message -  From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org 
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: DTV Converter BoxesHas 
anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are   available in the 
United States so an analog television set   can be used with the new DTV 
system? So far, it seems like   they all require a television set to be 
connected to them.   I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be 
used   as a stand alone television audio only receiver.For those not 
aware of it, all analog television transmission   in the United States will 
be turned off next February. Two   forty dollar coupons can be obtained to 
help purchase two   analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or 
don't   want to buy a new television set.The original upper 
television channels were auctioned off to   telecommunication and other 
companies for something in the   order of eighteen billion dollars. Wonder if 
other countries   are doing something similar to this?Thanks,
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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-30 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm sure I'm straying off topic, but you shouldn't have any trouble 
getting a HD LCD TV for less than $500. For example, on woot.com today 
they have a 32 inch LCD HD TV for $459.99 plus $5 shipping. The brand is 
Digital Lifestyles, which I've never heard of before. It may be the case 
that 19 inch LCD HD TV's aren't any cheaper than the larger ones though. 
Good luck!

DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then $500.
   John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


   
 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are 
 available in the United States so an analog television set 
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like 
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.  
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used 
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission 
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two 
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two 
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't 
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to 
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the 
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries 
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-30 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV 
for $225 from a web site

http://www.ecost.com

Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished 
unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more 
than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also, 
it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input 
and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

Don Roberts

- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


High Tom,
That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he 
didn't know.
I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
But if I have to, I will.
But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then 
$500.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-30 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Donald,
I don't remember who it was, but someone said something about having a 
satellite and or a cable box, a DTV converter is not needed.
The problem with this for me is, I have Dish Network.
I get some loco channels, but it wont pick up WCJV.
Here in Lake City Florida, you have to have either cable or an antenna to 
get that channel.
I will check out the website you posted and see what they have.
My best regards.
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
 for $225 from a web site

 http://www.ecost.com

 Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
 unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
 than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
 it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
 and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
 didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
 $500.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-30 Thread Brent Harding
I'm wondering also how one might get both boxes hooked to a single TV? As I 
see it, you're probably paying around $6.99 to Dish for the locals that you 
do get without the one they don't carry for whatever reason, in adition to 
whatever package of other channels you would subscribe to. Apparently, I 
have the option of getting Dish at this place, they probably have it in the 
wire with the free 25 analog channels or something. Next year, how can I 
hook up a converter box and the Dish receiver both to the same input on my 
TV, since it only has one coax in? Can I just use a splitter and set one to 
channel 3 and the other to 4 to switch between them, since my TV has only 
one input? I find it odd to pay extra to add locals when cable always has 
them no matter what package you took.

Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Donald,
 I don't remember who it was, but someone said something about having a
 satellite and or a cable box, a DTV converter is not needed.
 The problem with this for me is, I have Dish Network.
 I get some loco channels, but it wont pick up WCJV.
 Here in Lake City Florida, you have to have either cable or an antenna to
 get that channel.
 I will check out the website you posted and see what they have.
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:29 PM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


I bought a refurbished 19-inch Westinghouse LCD flat panel HD TV
 for $225 from a web site

 http://www.ecost.com

 Understandably, some would be reluctant to buy a  refurbished
 unit.  But ours has worked flawlessly.  We have had it for more
 than two months.  It has both a digital and analog tuner.  Also,
 it can be used as a computer monitor and has all sorts of input
 and output connectors.  We are delighted with it.

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:13 AM
 Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 High Tom,
 That is something that I am wondering about too as well.
 I called and spoke to someone at RadioShack, but he said he
 didn't know.
 I don't really want to buy another TV set either.
 But if I have to, I will.
 But I wish that I could get a 19 inch HD LCD TV cheaper then
 $500.
  John.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
 Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-29 Thread Tom
Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are 
available in the United States so an analog television set 
can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like 
they all require a television set to be connected to them.  
I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used 
as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission 
in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two 
forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two 
analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't 
want to buy a new television set.

The original upper television channels were auctioned off to 
telecommunication and other companies for something in the 
order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries 
are doing something similar to this?

Thanks,

Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-29 Thread djc
Hello Tom. I bought one of these just a few days ago for my tv here in the
office. I was able to hook it up myself but when I turned on the tv after
switching it to chanel 3 and turned on the box there was no sound and I
pressed all the buttons on the remote and the box and I couldn't get it to
scan the chanels. So I had to wait till a friend came over and he briefly
glanced at the manual and pressed a couple of buttons on the remote and it
took off. We have 10 regular chanels here in Sacramento and it found 5
digital chanels. I bought my box at best buy and it's an Insignia. Radio
shack, walmart and circuit city are also selling the boxes with the cupon
program. I live on the first floor of an apartment building so an outside
antenna is not an option. It works pretty well with my rabbit ears but I
have noted some drop out on some of the chanels so I had to tweak the
antenna to find the best signal. Lets say I am watching our chanel 10 here
and I want their digital weather chanel. I just type 102 and that gives me
the second chanel. All in all I am pleased with the box and it sounds great
although my tv here in the office is just a small 13 inch mono set that I
bought when I first married my wife in 1990. Depending on the model of the
box you buy you may be able to get it running yourself but this one here is
menus so be aware incase you do need sighted assistance. I was able to find
the insignia manual online so the manuals should be available online in pdf
format.

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 4/29/2008 at 3:58 PM Tom wrote:

Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are 
available in the United States so an analog television set 
can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like 
they all require a television set to be connected to them.  
I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used 
as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission 
in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two 
forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two 
analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't 
want to buy a new television set.

The original upper television channels were auctioned off to 
telecommunication and other companies for something in the 
order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries 
are doing something similar to this?

Thanks,

Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-29 Thread Brent Harding
I wonder what kind I would end up using, assuming my complex has a private 
cable system where they've been just getting the local broadcasts from 
analog tuners? If they were to decide not to spend the money to convert 
those to analog (I suppose digital signals are going to have to end up in 
the lines too for people that will eventually have digital TV's without 
analog capability) how do I make it so I can watch local channels or the 
rest of the lineup they have since my TV has only one input? Can I plug a 
cord in from the wall jack in to a box that will convert the digital and 
just pass through the rest that they have on the other analog channels, or 
how does that end up working?

- Original Message - 
From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-29 Thread Gary Schindler
The converter boxes have to be connected to an RF input or a pair of stereo 
jacks along with the video input jack on a television set!
- Original Message - 
From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: DTV Converter Boxes


 Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
 available in the United States so an analog television set
 can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
 they all require a television set to be connected to them.
 I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
 as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

 For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
 in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
 forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
 analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
 want to buy a new television set.

 The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
 telecommunication and other companies for something in the
 order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
 are doing something similar to this?

 Thanks,

 Tom




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Re: DTV Converter Boxes

2008-04-29 Thread Gary Schindler
most of the converter boxes have a setup wizard. I have to wait for someone 
to help me with mine.

- Original Message - 
From: djc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: DTV Converter Boxes


 Hello Tom. I bought one of these just a few days ago for my tv here in the
 office. I was able to hook it up myself but when I turned on the tv after
 switching it to chanel 3 and turned on the box there was no sound and I
 pressed all the buttons on the remote and the box and I couldn't get it to
 scan the chanels. So I had to wait till a friend came over and he briefly
 glanced at the manual and pressed a couple of buttons on the remote and it
 took off. We have 10 regular chanels here in Sacramento and it found 5
 digital chanels. I bought my box at best buy and it's an Insignia. Radio
 shack, walmart and circuit city are also selling the boxes with the cupon
 program. I live on the first floor of an apartment building so an outside
 antenna is not an option. It works pretty well with my rabbit ears but I
 have noted some drop out on some of the chanels so I had to tweak the
 antenna to find the best signal. Lets say I am watching our chanel 10 here
 and I want their digital weather chanel. I just type 102 and that gives me
 the second chanel. All in all I am pleased with the box and it sounds 
 great
 although my tv here in the office is just a small 13 inch mono set that I
 bought when I first married my wife in 1990. Depending on the model of the
 box you buy you may be able to get it running yourself but this one here 
 is
 menus so be aware incase you do need sighted assistance. I was able to 
 find
 the insignia manual online so the manuals should be available online in 
 pdf
 format.

 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 4/29/2008 at 3:58 PM Tom wrote:

Has anyone purchased any of the DTV converter boxes that are
available in the United States so an analog television set
can be used with the new DTV system?  So far, it seems like
they all require a television set to be connected to them.
I'm hoping there might be, at least, a few that can be used
as a stand alone television audio only receiver.

For those not aware of it, all analog television transmission
in the United States will be turned off next February.  Two
forty dollar coupons can be obtained to help purchase two
analog to DTV converter boxes for those who can't or don't
want to buy a new television set.

The original upper television channels were auctioned off to
telecommunication and other companies for something in the
order of eighteen billion dollars.  Wonder if other countries
are doing something similar to this?

Thanks,

Tom




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