RE: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-15 Thread Rick Alfaro
Sarai,

Did you ever get your Archos recorder going with RockBox?  Within the last
week or so I purchased a 20gb recorder model and the voice system works
great.  I was curious to know if you ever got it working and if so, what the
problem was to begin with?

Best regards,
 
Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sarai and Rosie
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:35 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: MP3 Ipod


awesome! Keep us updated! Which Ipod do you have? They just came out with an
ipod many. Let me know if it works. Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust
in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


 Hello,
 Good news on the Audible front: there is a plug-in for Anapod which 
 has to be downloaded and installed separately which allows Anapod to 
 support Audible files--any format!  The Ipod remembers your place in 
 an Audible
file
 so even if you go skipping around the Ipod it will start playback 
 where
you
 left off.  I have not figured out how to navigate from section to 
 section
or
 how to set bookmarks.  I don't believe you can use the Itunes store
without
 the Itunes software installed but I don't know that for sure as I have 
 had no interest in getting it to that area.

 Debbie

 -Original Message-
 From: Sarai and Rosie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 12:03 AM
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: MP3 Ipod


 Also, what about books from audible.com? I know that the do play the 
 books on the ipods, but what about with out the itunes software? Sarai 
 and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
   And lean not on your own understanding;
   In all your ways acknowledge Him,
   And He shall direct your paths.


 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Henrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:50 PM
 Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


  Yes. That was nice to hear about that separate program, but does it
still
  allow for downloading or purchsing books from the itunes site as 
  itunes
 does?
  At 6/13/2004, you wrote:
  Hi.
   Have you thought of writing a text file or doing a main 
  menu
 review
  of the Ipod from a blind person's perspective? I think your ideas 
  would
 be
  excellent. I had no idea that the Ipod could be made even somewhat
usable
  and, with the popularity of the machines, some blind people might 
  want
to
  use them.
  Aman
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Debbie Crafts
  Sent: June 12, 2004 1:23 PM
  To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
  Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod
  
  Hello,
  I won an Ipod at work and have been able to get it somewhat 
  functional.
 The
  first step was to ditch the Itunes software, which I found totally
 unusable.
  There is a peace of software called Anapod Explorer put out by 
  RedChair software which works like a dream.  The URL is 
  www.redchairsoftware.com
 and
  It organizes the Ipod in to folders and puts an icon on your 
  desktop
 which
  you basically access like just another folder in My Computer.  You 
  can either copy/paste or send-to files to this window just like you 
  can a
 folder
  on your hard drive, and Anapod even lets you manipulate playlists 
  in an intuitive manner.  It doesn't insist on synchronizing the 
  Ipod with a library on your computer as Itunes apparently does.  
  The documentation
is
  called the Omnitome and is on their website.
  
In terms of using the device itself, I found that the remote
 control is
  far the easiest interface.  There are definite buttons for 
  play/pause, previous and next.  You press down on the prev. and 
  next buttons to
fast
  forward or rewind through a selection.  I have had limited success 
  in
 using
  the unit itself by counting the audible clicks emitted by the Ipod 
  when
 you
  access the touch wheel.  The second selection on the menu is
playlists
 and
  then you touch the middle button for enter.  If you numerically
sequence
  your playlists in Anapod, you can then count clicks to the playlist 
  you want, enter, then either touch the top of the wheel to play or 
  use the
 play
  button on the remote.  Not the easiest interface in the world to 
  use,
but
  with a little elbow grease, it can be made to cooperate a little.  
  I
 highly
  recommend that anyone interested in using an Ipod check out Anapod
 explorer.
  I also found it essential to sit with a sighted person enough

Re: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-15 Thread Sarai and Rosie
Nope, never got it working. I have no idea what the problem was. Its
annoying! LOL
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


Sarai,

Did you ever get your Archos recorder going with RockBox?  Within the last
week or so I purchased a 20gb recorder model and the voice system works
great.  I was curious to know if you ever got it working and if so, what the
problem was to begin with?

Best regards,

Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sarai and Rosie
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:35 AM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: MP3 Ipod


awesome! Keep us updated! Which Ipod do you have? They just came out with an
ipod many. Let me know if it works. Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust
in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


 Hello,
 Good news on the Audible front: there is a plug-in for Anapod which
 has to be downloaded and installed separately which allows Anapod to
 support Audible files--any format!  The Ipod remembers your place in
 an Audible
file
 so even if you go skipping around the Ipod it will start playback
 where
you
 left off.  I have not figured out how to navigate from section to
 section
or
 how to set bookmarks.  I don't believe you can use the Itunes store
without
 the Itunes software installed but I don't know that for sure as I have
 had no interest in getting it to that area.

 Debbie

 -Original Message-
 From: Sarai and Rosie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 12:03 AM
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: MP3 Ipod


 Also, what about books from audible.com? I know that the do play the
 books on the ipods, but what about with out the itunes software? Sarai
 and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
   And lean not on your own understanding;
   In all your ways acknowledge Him,
   And He shall direct your paths.


 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Henrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:50 PM
 Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


  Yes. That was nice to hear about that separate program, but does it
still
  allow for downloading or purchsing books from the itunes site as
  itunes
 does?
  At 6/13/2004, you wrote:
  Hi.
   Have you thought of writing a text file or doing a main
  menu
 review
  of the Ipod from a blind person's perspective? I think your ideas
  would
 be
  excellent. I had no idea that the Ipod could be made even somewhat
usable
  and, with the popularity of the machines, some blind people might
  want
to
  use them.
  Aman
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Debbie Crafts
  Sent: June 12, 2004 1:23 PM
  To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
  Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod
  
  Hello,
  I won an Ipod at work and have been able to get it somewhat
  functional.
 The
  first step was to ditch the Itunes software, which I found totally
 unusable.
  There is a peace of software called Anapod Explorer put out by
  RedChair software which works like a dream.  The URL is
  www.redchairsoftware.com
 and
  It organizes the Ipod in to folders and puts an icon on your
  desktop
 which
  you basically access like just another folder in My Computer.  You
  can either copy/paste or send-to files to this window just like you
  can a
 folder
  on your hard drive, and Anapod even lets you manipulate playlists
  in an intuitive manner.  It doesn't insist on synchronizing the
  Ipod with a library on your computer as Itunes apparently does.
  The documentation
is
  called the Omnitome and is on their website.
  
In terms of using the device itself, I found that the remote
 control is
  far the easiest interface.  There are definite buttons for
  play/pause, previous and next.  You press down on the prev. and
  next buttons to
fast
  forward or rewind through a selection.  I have had limited success
  in
 using
  the unit itself by counting the audible clicks emitted by the Ipod
  when
 you
  access the touch wheel.  The second selection on the menu is
playlists
 and
  then you touch the middle button for enter.  If you

Re: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-14 Thread Sarai and Rosie
Also, what about books from audible.com? I know that the do play the books
on the ipods, but what about with out the itunes software?
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Henrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


 Yes. That was nice to hear about that separate program, but does it still
 allow for downloading or purchsing books from the itunes site as itunes
does?
 At 6/13/2004, you wrote:
 Hi.
  Have you thought of writing a text file or doing a main menu
review
 of the Ipod from a blind person's perspective? I think your ideas would
be
 excellent. I had no idea that the Ipod could be made even somewhat usable
 and, with the popularity of the machines, some blind people might want to
 use them.
 Aman
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Debbie Crafts
 Sent: June 12, 2004 1:23 PM
 To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
 Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod
 
 Hello,
 I won an Ipod at work and have been able to get it somewhat functional.
The
 first step was to ditch the Itunes software, which I found totally
unusable.
 There is a peace of software called Anapod Explorer put out by RedChair
 software which works like a dream.  The URL is www.redchairsoftware.com
and
 It organizes the Ipod in to folders and puts an icon on your desktop
which
 you basically access like just another folder in My Computer.  You can
 either copy/paste or send-to files to this window just like you can a
folder
 on your hard drive, and Anapod even lets you manipulate playlists in an
 intuitive manner.  It doesn't insist on synchronizing the Ipod with a
 library on your computer as Itunes apparently does.  The documentation is
 called the Omnitome and is on their website.
 
   In terms of using the device itself, I found that the remote
control is
 far the easiest interface.  There are definite buttons for play/pause,
 previous and next.  You press down on the prev. and next buttons to fast
 forward or rewind through a selection.  I have had limited success in
using
 the unit itself by counting the audible clicks emitted by the Ipod when
you
 access the touch wheel.  The second selection on the menu is playlists
and
 then you touch the middle button for enter.  If you numerically sequence
 your playlists in Anapod, you can then count clicks to the playlist you
 want, enter, then either touch the top of the wheel to play or use the
play
 button on the remote.  Not the easiest interface in the world to use, but
 with a little elbow grease, it can be made to cooperate a little.  I
highly
 recommend that anyone interested in using an Ipod check out Anapod
explorer.
 I also found it essential to sit with a sighted person enough to get some
 guidance in figuring out the interface.  Hope these remarks are helpful.
 
 Debbie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aman Singer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:17 PM
 To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
 Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod
 
 
  Hi.
  Unfortunately, the Ipod isn't very accessible. All the buttons
on
 the newer units are touch-sensitive, and provide no tactile feedback.
This
 might not be insurmountable, but the unit will not speak. The only sounds
 that'll be coming out of it will be those of the mp3, once you play it.
 Further, the software isn't very accessible. To the best of my knowledge,
 you must use the Itunes software (someone correct me if I'm wrong on
this,
 as I heard some rumblings about Apple switching to a less proprietary
 interface, but am not sure if that happened or is going to). There are
 better and more accessible players. If accessibility is important to you,
 and you want to play only MP3 files, try some of the units from Archos.
 These units, with the help of an alternative firmware called Rockbox
  http://rockbox.haxx.se
  speak their menus, as well as spelling file names and speaking
the
 names of folders. If you want to play more formats, like OGG and WMA,
your
 best bet is to go with one of the Iriver units
  http://www.iriveramerica.com
  which, though they do not speak their menus or file/folder
names,
 are good players and will play more formats than the Archos units. Both
 units come in the same capacities as the Ipod and, as a side benefit, are
 usually far cheaper.
  Aman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Sharon Lash
 Sent: June 10, 2004 11:42 AM
 To: pc-audio
 Subject: MP3 Ipod
 
 Does anyone out there have this player?  Is it accessible?  Can you use
 folders or do you just add files?  Thanks

RE: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-14 Thread dcrafts
Hello,
Good news on the Audible front: there is a plug-in for Anapod which has to
be downloaded and installed separately which allows Anapod to support
Audible files--any format!  The Ipod remembers your place in an Audible file
so even if you go skipping around the Ipod it will start playback where you
left off.  I have not figured out how to navigate from section to section or
how to set bookmarks.  I don't believe you can use the Itunes store without
the Itunes software installed but I don't know that for sure as I have had
no interest in getting it to that area.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: Sarai and Rosie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 12:03 AM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: MP3 Ipod


Also, what about books from audible.com? I know that the do play the books
on the ipods, but what about with out the itunes software?
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


- Original Message -
From: Paul Henrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


 Yes. That was nice to hear about that separate program, but does it still
 allow for downloading or purchsing books from the itunes site as itunes
does?
 At 6/13/2004, you wrote:
 Hi.
  Have you thought of writing a text file or doing a main menu
review
 of the Ipod from a blind person's perspective? I think your ideas would
be
 excellent. I had no idea that the Ipod could be made even somewhat usable
 and, with the popularity of the machines, some blind people might want to
 use them.
 Aman
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Debbie Crafts
 Sent: June 12, 2004 1:23 PM
 To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
 Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod
 
 Hello,
 I won an Ipod at work and have been able to get it somewhat functional.
The
 first step was to ditch the Itunes software, which I found totally
unusable.
 There is a peace of software called Anapod Explorer put out by RedChair
 software which works like a dream.  The URL is www.redchairsoftware.com
and
 It organizes the Ipod in to folders and puts an icon on your desktop
which
 you basically access like just another folder in My Computer.  You can
 either copy/paste or send-to files to this window just like you can a
folder
 on your hard drive, and Anapod even lets you manipulate playlists in an
 intuitive manner.  It doesn't insist on synchronizing the Ipod with a
 library on your computer as Itunes apparently does.  The documentation is
 called the Omnitome and is on their website.
 
   In terms of using the device itself, I found that the remote
control is
 far the easiest interface.  There are definite buttons for play/pause,
 previous and next.  You press down on the prev. and next buttons to fast
 forward or rewind through a selection.  I have had limited success in
using
 the unit itself by counting the audible clicks emitted by the Ipod when
you
 access the touch wheel.  The second selection on the menu is playlists
and
 then you touch the middle button for enter.  If you numerically sequence
 your playlists in Anapod, you can then count clicks to the playlist you
 want, enter, then either touch the top of the wheel to play or use the
play
 button on the remote.  Not the easiest interface in the world to use, but
 with a little elbow grease, it can be made to cooperate a little.  I
highly
 recommend that anyone interested in using an Ipod check out Anapod
explorer.
 I also found it essential to sit with a sighted person enough to get some
 guidance in figuring out the interface.  Hope these remarks are helpful.
 
 Debbie


___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-14 Thread Sarai and Rosie
awesome! Keep us updated! Which Ipod do you have? They just came out with an
ipod many. Let me know if it works.
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


 Hello,
 Good news on the Audible front: there is a plug-in for Anapod which has to
 be downloaded and installed separately which allows Anapod to support
 Audible files--any format!  The Ipod remembers your place in an Audible
file
 so even if you go skipping around the Ipod it will start playback where
you
 left off.  I have not figured out how to navigate from section to section
or
 how to set bookmarks.  I don't believe you can use the Itunes store
without
 the Itunes software installed but I don't know that for sure as I have had
 no interest in getting it to that area.

 Debbie

 -Original Message-
 From: Sarai and Rosie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 12:03 AM
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: MP3 Ipod


 Also, what about books from audible.com? I know that the do play the books
 on the ipods, but what about with out the itunes software?
 Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
   And lean not on your own understanding;
   In all your ways acknowledge Him,
   And He shall direct your paths.


 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Henrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:50 PM
 Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


  Yes. That was nice to hear about that separate program, but does it
still
  allow for downloading or purchsing books from the itunes site as itunes
 does?
  At 6/13/2004, you wrote:
  Hi.
   Have you thought of writing a text file or doing a main menu
 review
  of the Ipod from a blind person's perspective? I think your ideas would
 be
  excellent. I had no idea that the Ipod could be made even somewhat
usable
  and, with the popularity of the machines, some blind people might want
to
  use them.
  Aman
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Debbie Crafts
  Sent: June 12, 2004 1:23 PM
  To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
  Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod
  
  Hello,
  I won an Ipod at work and have been able to get it somewhat functional.
 The
  first step was to ditch the Itunes software, which I found totally
 unusable.
  There is a peace of software called Anapod Explorer put out by RedChair
  software which works like a dream.  The URL is www.redchairsoftware.com
 and
  It organizes the Ipod in to folders and puts an icon on your desktop
 which
  you basically access like just another folder in My Computer.  You can
  either copy/paste or send-to files to this window just like you can a
 folder
  on your hard drive, and Anapod even lets you manipulate playlists in an
  intuitive manner.  It doesn't insist on synchronizing the Ipod with a
  library on your computer as Itunes apparently does.  The documentation
is
  called the Omnitome and is on their website.
  
In terms of using the device itself, I found that the remote
 control is
  far the easiest interface.  There are definite buttons for play/pause,
  previous and next.  You press down on the prev. and next buttons to
fast
  forward or rewind through a selection.  I have had limited success in
 using
  the unit itself by counting the audible clicks emitted by the Ipod when
 you
  access the touch wheel.  The second selection on the menu is
playlists
 and
  then you touch the middle button for enter.  If you numerically
sequence
  your playlists in Anapod, you can then count clicks to the playlist you
  want, enter, then either touch the top of the wheel to play or use the
 play
  button on the remote.  Not the easiest interface in the world to use,
but
  with a little elbow grease, it can be made to cooperate a little.  I
 highly
  recommend that anyone interested in using an Ipod check out Anapod
 explorer.
  I also found it essential to sit with a sighted person enough to get
some
  guidance in figuring out the interface.  Hope these remarks are
helpful.
  
  Debbie


 ___
 PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
 http://www.pc-audio.org

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-13 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Yes. That was nice to hear about that separate program, but does it still 
allow for downloading or purchsing books from the itunes site as itunes does?
At 6/13/2004, you wrote:
Hi.
Have you thought of writing a text file or doing a main menu review
of the Ipod from a blind person's perspective? I think your ideas would be
excellent. I had no idea that the Ipod could be made even somewhat usable
and, with the popularity of the machines, some blind people might want to
use them.
Aman
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Debbie Crafts
Sent: June 12, 2004 1:23 PM
To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod
Hello,
I won an Ipod at work and have been able to get it somewhat functional.  The
first step was to ditch the Itunes software, which I found totally unusable.
There is a peace of software called Anapod Explorer put out by RedChair
software which works like a dream.  The URL is www.redchairsoftware.com and
It organizes the Ipod in to folders and puts an icon on your desktop which
you basically access like just another folder in My Computer.  You can
either copy/paste or send-to files to this window just like you can a folder
on your hard drive, and Anapod even lets you manipulate playlists in an
intuitive manner.  It doesn't insist on synchronizing the Ipod with a
library on your computer as Itunes apparently does.  The documentation is
called the Omnitome and is on their website.
 In terms of using the device itself, I found that the remote control is
far the easiest interface.  There are definite buttons for play/pause,
previous and next.  You press down on the prev. and next buttons to fast
forward or rewind through a selection.  I have had limited success in using
the unit itself by counting the audible clicks emitted by the Ipod when you
access the touch wheel.  The second selection on the menu is playlists and
then you touch the middle button for enter.  If you numerically sequence
your playlists in Anapod, you can then count clicks to the playlist you
want, enter, then either touch the top of the wheel to play or use the play
button on the remote.  Not the easiest interface in the world to use, but
with a little elbow grease, it can be made to cooperate a little.  I highly
recommend that anyone interested in using an Ipod check out Anapod explorer.
I also found it essential to sit with a sighted person enough to get some
guidance in figuring out the interface.  Hope these remarks are helpful.
Debbie
-Original Message-
From: Aman Singer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:17 PM
To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod
Hi.
Unfortunately, the Ipod isn't very accessible. All the buttons on
the newer units are touch-sensitive, and provide no tactile feedback. This
might not be insurmountable, but the unit will not speak. The only sounds
that'll be coming out of it will be those of the mp3, once you play it.
Further, the software isn't very accessible. To the best of my knowledge,
you must use the Itunes software (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this,
as I heard some rumblings about Apple switching to a less proprietary
interface, but am not sure if that happened or is going to). There are
better and more accessible players. If accessibility is important to you,
and you want to play only MP3 files, try some of the units from Archos.
These units, with the help of an alternative firmware called Rockbox
http://rockbox.haxx.se
speak their menus, as well as spelling file names and speaking the
names of folders. If you want to play more formats, like OGG and WMA, your
best bet is to go with one of the Iriver units
http://www.iriveramerica.com
which, though they do not speak their menus or file/folder names,
are good players and will play more formats than the Archos units. Both
units come in the same capacities as the Ipod and, as a side benefit, are
usually far cheaper.
Aman
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sharon Lash
Sent: June 10, 2004 11:42 AM
To: pc-audio
Subject: MP3 Ipod
Does anyone out there have this player?  Is it accessible?  Can you use
folders or do you just add files?  Thanks
___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
http://www.pc-audio.org
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
http://www.pc-audio.org
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
http://www.pc-audio.org
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
http

RE: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-10 Thread Aman Singer
Hi.
Unfortunately, the Ipod isn't very accessible. All the buttons on
the newer units are touch-sensitive, and provide no tactile feedback. This
might not be insurmountable, but the unit will not speak. The only sounds
that'll be coming out of it will be those of the mp3, once you play it.
Further, the software isn't very accessible. To the best of my knowledge,
you must use the Itunes software (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this,
as I heard some rumblings about Apple switching to a less proprietary
interface, but am not sure if that happened or is going to). There are
better and more accessible players. If accessibility is important to you,
and you want to play only MP3 files, try some of the units from Archos.
These units, with the help of an alternative firmware called Rockbox
http://rockbox.haxx.se 
speak their menus, as well as spelling file names and speaking the
names of folders. If you want to play more formats, like OGG and WMA, your
best bet is to go with one of the Iriver units
http://www.iriveramerica.com 
which, though they do not speak their menus or file/folder names,
are good players and will play more formats than the Archos units. Both
units come in the same capacities as the Ipod and, as a side benefit, are
usually far cheaper.
Aman  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sharon Lash
Sent: June 10, 2004 11:42 AM
To: pc-audio
Subject: MP3 Ipod

Does anyone out there have this player?  Is it accessible?  Can you use
folders or do you just add files?  Thanks


___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-10 Thread Sharon Lash
But I thought it was mentioned on either this list or another list that
Archos isn't making the player that is accessible with the rockbox anymore.
- Original Message - 
From: Aman Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


 Hi.
 Unfortunately, the Ipod isn't very accessible. All the buttons on
 the newer units are touch-sensitive, and provide no tactile feedback. This
 might not be insurmountable, but the unit will not speak. The only sounds
 that'll be coming out of it will be those of the mp3, once you play it.
 Further, the software isn't very accessible. To the best of my knowledge,
 you must use the Itunes software (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this,
 as I heard some rumblings about Apple switching to a less proprietary
 interface, but am not sure if that happened or is going to). There are
 better and more accessible players. If accessibility is important to you,
 and you want to play only MP3 files, try some of the units from Archos.
 These units, with the help of an alternative firmware called Rockbox
 http://rockbox.haxx.se
 speak their menus, as well as spelling file names and speaking the
 names of folders. If you want to play more formats, like OGG and WMA, your
 best bet is to go with one of the Iriver units
 http://www.iriveramerica.com
 which, though they do not speak their menus or file/folder names,
 are good players and will play more formats than the Archos units. Both
 units come in the same capacities as the Ipod and, as a side benefit, are
 usually far cheaper.
 Aman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Sharon Lash
 Sent: June 10, 2004 11:42 AM
 To: pc-audio
 Subject: MP3 Ipod

 Does anyone out there have this player?  Is it accessible?  Can you use
 folders or do you just add files?  Thanks


 ___
 PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
 http://www.pc-audio.org

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 ___
 PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
 http://www.pc-audio.org

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-10 Thread rinty
Correct, but they're still available, either on ebay, or certainly for
those in the UK, www.theupgradestore.com.

Rob


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004


___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-10 Thread Aman Singer
Hi.
It is true that Archos is no longer producing the players that work
with the accessible rockbox firmware. However, many of these are available
both used and new from Ebay. I've also heard of a few people in the UK
buying them new from there and am sure that, with persistence, American
online suppliers may be found.
Aman   

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sharon Lash
Sent: June 10, 2004 1:25 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: MP3 Ipod

But I thought it was mentioned on either this list or another list that
Archos isn't making the player that is accessible with the rockbox anymore.
- Original Message - 
From: Aman Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: MP3 Ipod


 Hi.
 Unfortunately, the Ipod isn't very accessible. All the buttons on
 the newer units are touch-sensitive, and provide no tactile feedback. This
 might not be insurmountable, but the unit will not speak. The only sounds
 that'll be coming out of it will be those of the mp3, once you play it.
 Further, the software isn't very accessible. To the best of my knowledge,
 you must use the Itunes software (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this,
 as I heard some rumblings about Apple switching to a less proprietary
 interface, but am not sure if that happened or is going to). There are
 better and more accessible players. If accessibility is important to you,
 and you want to play only MP3 files, try some of the units from Archos.
 These units, with the help of an alternative firmware called Rockbox
 http://rockbox.haxx.se
 speak their menus, as well as spelling file names and speaking the
 names of folders. If you want to play more formats, like OGG and WMA, your
 best bet is to go with one of the Iriver units
 http://www.iriveramerica.com
 which, though they do not speak their menus or file/folder names,
 are good players and will play more formats than the Archos units. Both
 units come in the same capacities as the Ipod and, as a side benefit, are
 usually far cheaper.
 Aman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Sharon Lash
 Sent: June 10, 2004 11:42 AM
 To: pc-audio
 Subject: MP3 Ipod

 Does anyone out there have this player?  Is it accessible?  Can you use
 folders or do you just add files?  Thanks


 ___
 PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
 http://www.pc-audio.org

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 ___
 PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
 http://www.pc-audio.org

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: MP3 Ipod

2004-06-10 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi. Is not accessible and itunes, which is the software for sending to the 
ipod is not accessible either.
At 6/10/2004, you wrote:
Does anyone out there have this player?  Is it accessible?  Can you use
folders or do you just add files?  Thanks
___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
http://www.pc-audio.org
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

___
PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
http://www.pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]