RE: SACD'S

2015-03-29 Thread John Gurd
Hi Dane,

I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay 
audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they 
sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if they 
were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings around but 
there seem to be very few even for contempory output. 

I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and 
slow. Which Dennon player did you get?

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: SACD'S

Hi!

Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection 
of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them however 
that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own so SACD'S 
had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player.

The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 
weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and listen 
again.

There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was 
certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now digitally 
delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being delivered 
via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do the same 
job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each speaker but 
in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference.

The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound receiver 
by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each channel and the 
connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer had a Digital out 
connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming of standard Audio or 
Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD.

The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one 
HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available - 
and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly makes 
life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing things 
the traditional way with RCA and other cords.

I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can only 
play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the multi 
channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo mode quite 
happily in a standard CD Player.

Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The worlds, 
the classic double album from 1978.


-- 

**
Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves





RE: SACD'S

2015-03-29 Thread Brett Boyer
Hey. I recall reading a review that said the Eagles Hell Freezes Over has a 
SACD version. And, in this concert mix you are placed center stage instead of 
being in the audience. For example, drums behind you, and the band all around 
you! Whereas most concerts place you in the audience with the band mostly in 
the front speakers and sometimes a little enhancement in the rear speakers. I 
thought about buying some expensive equipment just to hear if all of that is 
true. Because it sounded amazing! But not enough to go and buy several hundred 
dollars of equipment.
bb


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 9:27 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: SACD'S

Hi Dane,

I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay 
audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they 
sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if they 
were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings around but 
there seem to be very few even for contempory output. 

I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and 
slow. Which Dennon player did you get?

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: SACD'S

Hi!

Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection 
of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them however 
that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own so SACD'S 
had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player.

The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 
weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and listen 
again.

There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was 
certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now digitally 
delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being delivered 
via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do the same 
job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each speaker but 
in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference.

The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound receiver 
by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each channel and the 
connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer had a Digital out 
connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming of standard Audio or 
Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD.

The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one 
HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available - 
and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly makes 
life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing things 
the traditional way with RCA and other cords.

I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can only 
play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the multi 
channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo mode quite 
happily in a standard CD Player.

Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The worlds, 
the classic double album from 1978.


-- 

**
Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves







Re: SACD'S

2015-03-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, there aren’t too many SACD’S around though they haven’t died out yet which 
is probably due to the fact that to play a SACD is a cheaper option now than it 
ever has been, I refer to my notes on the first SACD capable player I bought.


 On 30 Mar 2015, at 3:27 am, John Gurd j.g...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dane,
 
 I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay 
 audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they 
 sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if 
 they were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings 
 around but there seem to be very few even for contempory output. 
 
 I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and 
 slow. Which Dennon player did you get?
 
 John
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
 Trethowan
 Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: SACD'S
 
 Hi!
 
 Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection 
 of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them 
 however that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own 
 so SACD'S had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player.
 
 The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 
 weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and 
 listen again.
 
 There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was 
 certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now 
 digitally delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being 
 delivered via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do 
 the same job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each 
 speaker but in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference.
 
 The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound 
 receiver by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each 
 channel and the connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer 
 had a Digital out connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming 
 of standard Audio or Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD.
 
 The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one 
 HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available 
 - and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly 
 makes life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing 
 things the traditional way with RCA and other cords.
 
 I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can 
 only play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the 
 multi channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo 
 mode quite happily in a standard CD Player.
 
 Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The 
 worlds, the classic double album from 1978.
 
 
 -- 
 
 **
 Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
 
 
 




Re: SACD'S

2015-03-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
You don’t need to access any menu system, just put the SACD into your player 
and press the play button, a lot of Blu-Ray players will play SACD’S without a 
problem, the sony player I mentioned in a SACD player though I should warn you 
that at $99 I don’t know how good it would be, I am thinking of buying 
something cheap for the den to do the job where quality isn’t an issue with 
that sort of thing as I already have quality components, I have the DAC and so 
on.


 On 30 Mar 2015, at 3:27 am, John Gurd j.g...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dane,
 
 I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay 
 audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they 
 sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if 
 they were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings 
 around but there seem to be very few even for contempory output. 
 
 I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and 
 slow. Which Dennon player did you get?
 
 John
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
 Trethowan
 Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: SACD'S
 
 Hi!
 
 Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection 
 of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them 
 however that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own 
 so SACD'S had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player.
 
 The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 
 weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and 
 listen again.
 
 There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was 
 certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now 
 digitally delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being 
 delivered via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do 
 the same job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each 
 speaker but in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference.
 
 The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound 
 receiver by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each 
 channel and the connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer 
 had a Digital out connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming 
 of standard Audio or Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD.
 
 The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one 
 HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available 
 - and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly 
 makes life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing 
 things the traditional way with RCA and other cords.
 
 I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can 
 only play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the 
 multi channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo 
 mode quite happily in a standard CD Player.
 
 Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The 
 worlds, the classic double album from 1978.
 
 
 -- 
 
 **
 Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves