RE: mp3 player that plays wma's
I don't know how useful this will be but I found this on sale at a best buy store. If you go to www.motorola.com you should be able to find info on their mp3 players. As far as ff and rw in files goes there's no audio feedback, so I just had to get used to the time I held the joystick in the ff or rw position. There's a bookmark feature for multiple bookmarks but if all you want the player to do is remember where you left off in a file it does that without you doing anything. It is audible ready, but I only use it for netlibrary or overdrive audio books. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:56 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Tim, Do you have a link for more info on this Motorola unit? Can you rewind and fast forward through a large NetLibrary book with no issues? Also, what did you mean by if you have a good memory you can bookmark more than one file.. Appreciate the info. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:08 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's No you don't. I bought a Motorola M25 for $29 that works great with the net library books as long as it stops before the battery runs completely down. If you have a good memory you can bookmark more than 1 file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:11 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Rick! Sorry for my delayed response to your post. At the moment, I don't know of any good accessible player that will bookmark your net library books. I'm not saying there isn't something, but I haven't found it yet. Maybe some IRiver product might do it? I don't know. I've been going for the cheap stuff for folks who don't have much money but want to access these Net Library books. I think you have to go to high-end players to get that bookmarking capability. Really annoying, I know. Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: mp3 player that plays wma's
Thanks for the responses folks. I did find info on the Motorola players. If I can find one of the m25 units for a good price, I may try one. One thing that was not mentioned on the Motorola site was whether it appeared as another drive in Windows Explorer when plugged into USB. It sounded like you had to use their own software to transfer files to the device. Although I know you have to use Windows Media Player to transfer the protected WMA files from NetLibrary, I am wondering if the device supports Windows Explorer as well. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:31 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's I don't know how useful this will be but I found this on sale at a best buy store. If you go to www.motorola.com you should be able to find info on their mp3 players. As far as ff and rw in files goes there's no audio feedback, so I just had to get used to the time I held the joystick in the ff or rw position. There's a bookmark feature for multiple bookmarks but if all you want the player to do is remember where you left off in a file it does that without you doing anything. It is audible ready, but I only use it for netlibrary or overdrive audio books. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:56 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Tim, Do you have a link for more info on this Motorola unit? Can you rewind and fast forward through a large NetLibrary book with no issues? Also, what did you mean by if you have a good memory you can bookmark more than one file.. Appreciate the info. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:08 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's No you don't. I bought a Motorola M25 for $29 that works great with the net library books as long as it stops before the battery runs completely down. If you have a good memory you can bookmark more than 1 file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:11 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Rick! Sorry for my delayed response to your post. At the moment, I don't know of any good accessible player that will bookmark your net library books. I'm not saying there isn't something, but I haven't found it yet. Maybe some IRiver product might do it? I don't know. I've been going for the cheap stuff for folks who don't have much money but want to access these Net Library books. I think you have to go to high-end players to get that bookmarking capability. Really annoying, I know. Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know
RE: mp3 player that plays wma's
I know it sounds like that but you don't. The player's internal memory appears as one drive and if you get a mc card it appears as another. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:24 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Thanks for the responses folks. I did find info on the Motorola players. If I can find one of the m25 units for a good price, I may try one. One thing that was not mentioned on the Motorola site was whether it appeared as another drive in Windows Explorer when plugged into USB. It sounded like you had to use their own software to transfer files to the device. Although I know you have to use Windows Media Player to transfer the protected WMA files from NetLibrary, I am wondering if the device supports Windows Explorer as well. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:31 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's I don't know how useful this will be but I found this on sale at a best buy store. If you go to www.motorola.com you should be able to find info on their mp3 players. As far as ff and rw in files goes there's no audio feedback, so I just had to get used to the time I held the joystick in the ff or rw position. There's a bookmark feature for multiple bookmarks but if all you want the player to do is remember where you left off in a file it does that without you doing anything. It is audible ready, but I only use it for netlibrary or overdrive audio books. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:56 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Tim, Do you have a link for more info on this Motorola unit? Can you rewind and fast forward through a large NetLibrary book with no issues? Also, what did you mean by if you have a good memory you can bookmark more than one file.. Appreciate the info. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:08 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's No you don't. I bought a Motorola M25 for $29 that works great with the net library books as long as it stops before the battery runs completely down. If you have a good memory you can bookmark more than 1 file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:11 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Rick! Sorry for my delayed response to your post. At the moment, I don't know of any good accessible player that will bookmark your net library books. I'm not saying there isn't something, but I haven't found it yet. Maybe some IRiver product might do it? I don't know. I've been going for the cheap stuff for folks who don't have much money but want to access these Net Library books. I think you have to go to high-end players to get that bookmarking capability. Really annoying, I know. Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message
Re: mp3 player that plays wma's
Smaller files would certainly be the appropriate solution and I have suggested this to the Vancouver Public Library and my local Fraser Valley Library but they say they only purchase distribution rights from Net Library and have no input as to the format and file structure they use. I find this difficult to believe and possibly if someone like the Canadian Institute for the Blind and similar agencies in the U.S. took up the challenge, well, then maybe we could get this issue resolved. Net Library is making it easy for themselves without proper regard for its patrons--well, that is my opinion anyway. Or, it might cost borrowing libraries more for the services if more effort went into compiling the books in the smaller file format. Technology is changing rapidly hence the engineering wizards might find a solution long before the bureaucratic barons of the various library systems are able to reach consensus. - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Rob, Thanks for the suggestion. I guess if there is no other way, I will have to bite the bullet and listen to the low bitrate version. I wish they would just make the much nicer sounding high bitrate version available in a series of smaller files. I believe this is what OverDrive does and users of that service don't have this issue. Thanks again for the advice. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hebert Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:51 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's With Net Library, there two options: The first option is to download radio quality. This file is roughly one tfifth of the CD quality file which is the second option. So, if your file was 135 megs the other should be about 30 megs. I had the same problem on a Iriver t 30 where the cd quality file was too large for the unit--not in terms of its size--the T 30 is 1 gig but the unit did not play such a large file properly--played about 2/3 of the file then stopped. The smaller (radio quality) worked fine. - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
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Hi Robert, The libraries are partially correct, but, as part of their contract with NetLibrary, they should be entitled to technical support. Through that channel, the IT dpeartment of your library should be contacting NetLibrary to see about fixing it in a future update of the service, at a minimum. Just like most people, it sounds like the library folks just want to take the easy way out and get away with doing nothing. Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! A+, CSSA, Network+! Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another person. Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Sign the ProTools accessibility petition at http://protoolspetition.org today! - Original Message - From: Robert Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Smaller files would certainly be the appropriate solution and I have suggested this to the Vancouver Public Library and my local Fraser Valley Library but they say they only purchase distribution rights from Net Library and have no input as to the format and file structure they use. I find this difficult to believe and possibly if someone like the Canadian Institute for the Blind and similar agencies in the U.S. took up the challenge, well, then maybe we could get this issue resolved. Net Library is making it easy for themselves without proper regard for its patrons--well, that is my opinion anyway. Or, it might cost borrowing libraries more for the services if more effort went into compiling the books in the smaller file format. Technology is changing rapidly hence the engineering wizards might find a solution long before the bureaucratic barons of the various library systems are able to reach consensus. - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Rob, Thanks for the suggestion. I guess if there is no other way, I will have to bite the bullet and listen to the low bitrate version. I wish they would just make the much nicer sounding high bitrate version available in a series of smaller files. I believe this is what OverDrive does and users of that service don't have this issue. Thanks again for the advice. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hebert Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:51 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's With Net Library, there two options: The first option is to download radio quality. This file is roughly one tfifth of the CD quality file which is the second option. So, if your file was 135 megs the other should be about 30 megs. I had the same problem on a Iriver t 30 where the cd quality file was too large for the unit--not in terms of its size--the T 30 is 1 gig but the unit did not play such a large file properly--played about 2/3 of the file then stopped. The smaller (radio quality) worked fine. - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion
Re: mp3 player that plays wma's
With Net Library, there two options: The first option is to download radio quality. This file is roughly one tfifth of the CD quality file which is the second option. So, if your file was 135 megs the other should be about 30 megs. I had the same problem on a Iriver t 30 where the cd quality file was too large for the unit--not in terms of its size--the T 30 is 1 gig but the unit did not play such a large file properly--played about 2/3 of the file then stopped. The smaller (radio quality) worked fine. - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database
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Hi, Rick! Sorry for my delayed response to your post. At the moment, I don't know of any good accessible player that will bookmark your net library books. I'm not saying there isn't something, but I haven't found it yet. Maybe some IRiver product might do it? I don't know. I've been going for the cheap stuff for folks who don't have much money but want to access these Net Library books. I think you have to go to high-end players to get that bookmarking capability. Really annoying, I know. Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date
RE: mp3 player that plays wma's
No you don't. I bought a Motorola M25 for $29 that works great with the net library books as long as it stops before the battery runs completely down. If you have a good memory you can bookmark more than 1 file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:11 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Rick! Sorry for my delayed response to your post. At the moment, I don't know of any good accessible player that will bookmark your net library books. I'm not saying there isn't something, but I haven't found it yet. Maybe some IRiver product might do it? I don't know. I've been going for the cheap stuff for folks who don't have much money but want to access these Net Library books. I think you have to go to high-end players to get that bookmarking capability. Really annoying, I know. Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Rob, Thanks for the suggestion. I guess if there is no other way, I will have to bite the bullet and listen to the low bitrate version. I wish they would just make the much nicer sounding high bitrate version available in a series of smaller files. I believe this is what OverDrive does and users of that service don't have this issue. Thanks again for the advice. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hebert Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:51 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's With Net Library, there two options: The first option is to download radio quality. This file is roughly one tfifth of the CD quality file which is the second option. So, if your file was 135 megs the other should be about 30 megs. I had the same problem on a Iriver t 30 where the cd quality file was too large for the unit--not in terms of its size--the T 30 is 1 gig but the unit did not play such a large file properly--played about 2/3 of the file then stopped. The smaller (radio quality) worked fine. - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more
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Tim, Do you have a link for more info on this Motorola unit? Can you rewind and fast forward through a large NetLibrary book with no issues? Also, what did you mean by if you have a good memory you can bookmark more than one file.. Appreciate the info. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:08 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's No you don't. I bought a Motorola M25 for $29 that works great with the net library books as long as it stops before the battery runs completely down. If you have a good memory you can bookmark more than 1 file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:11 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Rick! Sorry for my delayed response to your post. At the moment, I don't know of any good accessible player that will bookmark your net library books. I'm not saying there isn't something, but I haven't found it yet. Maybe some IRiver product might do it? I don't know. I've been going for the cheap stuff for folks who don't have much money but want to access these Net Library books. I think you have to go to high-end players to get that bookmarking capability. Really annoying, I know. Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org
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Yeah, that is how the Overdrive service works. There's also the MuVo line of MP3 players from Creative. I know they've been mentioned here before. There's the Nomad MuVo's which come in 64M and 128M sizes and then the MoVo Mix's which come in 256M and 512M sizes. I have a Nomad MuVo myself, the 128M size, and it works well with MP3's, WMA's and Audible's format. It does support picking up where you left off. I find that it does OK with large files, but you do lose the audio feedback when you're fast forwarding at the end of a large file. I bought the Nomad MuVo a while ago, so my facts above may be a bit off. I also had to upgrade the firmware to get it to support the Audible file format and the pick up where you stopped feature. Rick Alfaro wrote: Rob, Thanks for the suggestion. I guess if there is no other way, I will have to bite the bullet and listen to the low bitrate version. I wish they would just make the much nicer sounding high bitrate version available in a series of smaller files. I believe this is what OverDrive does and users of that service don't have this issue. Thanks again for the advice. --Warmest regards, --Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hebert Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:51 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's With Net Library, there two options: The first option is to download radio quality. This file is roughly one tfifth of the CD quality file which is the second option. So, if your file was 135 megs the other should be about 30 megs. I had the same problem on a Iriver t 30 where the cd quality file was too large for the unit--not in terms of its size--the T 30 is 1 gig but the unit did not play such a large file properly--played about 2/3 of the file then stopped. The smaller (radio quality) worked fine. - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind
Re: mp3 player that plays wma's
Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: mp3 player that plays wma's
Is the ilo easy to lern? I like what I read about it. Wood you please tell us more about it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: mp3 player that plays wma's
Well, tate, I haven't really studied it in deatail. It does have several menus, including an FM radio. But the first thing that does come up is the mp3 player. It has one of those little displays where you can find play, stop, backward and forward and I think an enter button, all arranged in that standard little square you see a lot on displays now. As with all the cheaper mp3 players, you can't mark where you've left off in a book like you can with a bookport, but if you just want to get at those wma-drm files and you don't mind forwarding to find your place, the Ilo is a way to go. It uses a standard maybe tripple A battery, I think. I haven't messed with it for awhile, like I said. The Disney products (the Disnye Mix Stick) is easier to use and cheaper yet, and you can buy an SD card for it, which you'd probably want to do since it only comes with 128 meg memory. The Ilo comes with a gig emory. I don't think it has a place for an SD card, if I remember correctly. hth Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tate Luck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Is the ilo easy to lern? I like what I read about it. Wood you please tell us more about it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe
RE: mp3 player that plays wma's
Kathy, Thank you for the help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:49 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Well, tate, I haven't really studied it in deatail. It does have several menus, including an FM radio. But the first thing that does come up is the mp3 player. It has one of those little displays where you can find play, stop, backward and forward and I think an enter button, all arranged in that standard little square you see a lot on displays now. As with all the cheaper mp3 players, you can't mark where you've left off in a book like you can with a bookport, but if you just want to get at those wma-drm files and you don't mind forwarding to find your place, the Ilo is a way to go. It uses a standard maybe tripple A battery, I think. I haven't messed with it for awhile, like I said. The Disney products (the Disnye Mix Stick) is easier to use and cheaper yet, and you can buy an SD card for it, which you'd probably want to do since it only comes with 128 meg memory. The Ilo comes with a gig emory. I don't think it has a place for an SD card, if I remember correctly. hth Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tate Luck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: RE: mp3 player that plays wma's Is the ilo easy to lern? I like what I read about it. Wood you please tell us more about it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message
RE: mp3 player that plays wma's
Kathy, My local library uses net library for downloadable books and I have signed up to use the service. The big problem I have encountered is that the books from Net Library are given to you for download as on huge file. The last book I downloaded was 135 megs. I am on a very high speed connection, so that is not a problem. The problem for was with the player I purchased to read these books. It is a Sandisk Sansa M240. Even though the player has 1 gb of memory, and can take the whole book with no problem, attempting to use either fast forward or rewind looses your place and brings you back to the beginning of the book. I called Sandisk about this and was told that this behavior is due to the size of the file. It simply can't handle the indexing for that size of a book. That was $75 down the drain unfortunately, because that was the only reason I had purchased the player. Can you recommend a player that will work with the huge files available from net library? The ability to simply play the file with DRM isn't the only thing needed for net library books, it also has to be able to allow you to rewind or fast forward through a book without totally loosing your place. Any suggestions much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:26 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi, Londa! I work at our public library which also now has access to free downloadable books that are in wma-drm (digital rights management) format, so I know the search for such an mp3 player quite well. I have found two players that are more or less accessible. one is the Ilo for about $99; you can get it from Walmoart on-line but not in their stores. I got mine on ebay for about $50, I think. The other you can find just about anywhere. It's called the Disney Mix Stick, I think. It's for little kids, but it's pretty accessible and costs about $40. I'll be happy to talk more about them and tell you what I know about advantages and disadvantages of each if you want to write me off-list. There is also a player, the name of which escapese me, that has pre-loaded books on them, one book per player. I'll see if I can find it. So give me a holler if you like! Cheers, Kathy Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Londa Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: mp3 player that plays wma's Hi All, I'm looking for an accessible mp3 player that also plays WMA files. Our library system is getting downloadable audio books and wants to be able to provide some suggestions for blind patrons. they'd also like to be able to purchase players and loan them with books preloaded on them to blind patrons. I've looked at the book port, but it's a bit expensive. I'm also not sure it will do the job. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
