Re: microphone and stereo question

2011-06-18 Thread don ball
you should use the narrow setting. Plus there is a capsule rotator in side 
the mic. Rotate the capsules completely forwared and use the narrow mic 
setting by turning the on switch to the first setting. it is a verry good 
mic that you can use for many aplications. it is particularly good for 
recording in a car or a bus.

a Verry good mic.
t
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From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net

To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:20 AM
Subject: microphone and stereo question


hello friends, last year i was given a microphone as a  father's day 
present, my family wwent to a lot of trouble to make sure i got a good 
one, it's a sony ECM-MS957  and a beauty, however  when i do interviews 
with it the stereo seems really wide, i have two settings on the mike, and 
i've tried them both, but even then the person i'm interviewing sounds as 
though he was on the other side of the street, what i'm doing is when in 
sound forge seven i go to the process menu, and tab down to channel 
processor, and go to pan stereo, is there another way, or is that the way 
i should be going, as i say it's a brilliant mike, but getting the balance 
just right is bugging me, can anyone suggest anything else i should be 
doing, i'm using sound forge  seven, thanks for taking the time to read 
this, regards from ireland, joe.

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Re: microphone and stereo question

2011-06-18 Thread don ball
you should sit everyone in front of the 957 sense it is a directional mic. 
It hase two forward facing capsules.
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From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net

To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:05 PM
Subject: microphone and stereo question


hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk  recorder, 
place the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of 
the mike and i on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are 
quite wide apart, if i listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the 
finished piece has to go out on radio, so i want to have it just right, 
but i'm never happy with the end result, i'm a little finicky about audio, 
so i'd like to get it up to a high standard, thanks for taking the trouble 
joe to answer my question, take care, regards from ireland, joe.

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RE: microphone and stereo question

2011-06-18 Thread Hamit Campos
What does this mike sound like?

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you should sit everyone in front of the 957 sense it is a directional mic. 
It hase two forward facing capsules.
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From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:05 PM
Subject: microphone and stereo question


 hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk  recorder, 
 place the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of

 the mike and i on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are 
 quite wide apart, if i listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the

 finished piece has to go out on radio, so i want to have it just right, 
 but i'm never happy with the end result, i'm a little finicky about audio,

 so i'd like to get it up to a high standard, thanks for taking the trouble

 joe to answer my question, take care, regards from ireland, joe.
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Re: microphone and stereo question

2011-06-17 Thread Joe Giovanelli
Joe and all,

I use a recorder to do most live recording and that's what I know best.

I think we need to know how you're miking your subjects.  It also might be good 
to know how far the speakers are separated.  In fact, are you listening through 
speakers or with headphones?

Is there a setting on the microphone which could possibly widen the stereo 
image?

If your subject is very close to the mike, any movement can make a difference 
to the sound stage.  Have the subject stand a bit further away from the mike.

Is there quite a bit of reverb in the room used for recording.  Rev. can add to 
the stereo effect.

I use two mikes at 90 degrees , mounted on a single stand.  I wish I could say 
that my stereo is too wide!
I hope that helps somewhat.

Joe G.


- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc comaudio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Friday, Jun 17, 2011 11:20:50
Subject: microphone and stereo question



 hello friends, last year i was given a microphone as a  father's day present, 
 my family wwent to a lot of trouble to make sure i got a good one, it's a 
 sony ECM-MS957  and a beauty, however  when i do interviews with it the 
 stereo seems really wide, i have two settings on the mike, and i've tried 
 them both, but even then the person i'm interviewing sounds as though he was 
 on the other side of the street, what i'm doing is when in sound forge seven 
 i go to the process menu, and tab down to channel  processor, and go to pan 
 stereo, is there another way, or is that the way i should be going, as i say 
 it's a brilliant mike, but getting the balance just right is bugging me, can 
 anyone suggest anything else i should be doing, i'm using sound forge  seven, 
 thanks for taking the time to read this, regards from ireland, joe.
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Re: microphone and stereo question

2011-06-17 Thread Steve Jacobson
Joe,

What is the result that you want to achieve?  If I am understanding you 
correctly, what likely is happening is that you and the person you interview 
each is 
heard on one speaker or the other.  The result is if you are close to the 
speaker through which the person is speaking, the sound is all right, but if 
you are 
listening to speakers in a pattern that places you some distance from each 
speaker, the interview causes the individuals to sound as though they are 
sitting 
too far apart.  Am I understanding the problem?

If so, the first thing to consider is whether you need stereo for this 
interview at all.  If you do, then what you are already doing with panning, 
which probably 
means you are partly combining channels to bring both participants more into 
the middle of the sound stage, is one way to reduce the problem.  You might 
also be sure that your microphone is set to have the narrowest stereo sound 
stage which will bring channels together some.  You might also consider 
reducing the distance between you and the person you are interviewing, or even 
using two microphones, one for each of you.  Always be carful not to get 
microphones so close that you have troubles with popping P's.  

If a room is acoustically live, the echos of the person speaking can be picked 
up by the microphone used by the other person, even when it is the other half 
of a stereo microphone.  By each of you being closer to the microphone, you 
reduce the level that is required and the echo or ambiance of the room plays a 
smaller role.

Finally, some recorders have a conference mode which is intended to pick up 
all voices in a room.  While this can be useful when recording a meeting, it 
will increase the level of background sound and echos in a room.  Try using a 
mode other than conference.  If you have a choice, do not use automatic 
level controls as they can do the same thing as conference mode, depending 
upon their design.  

Experiment with the seating arrangement.  Instead of sitting across a table 
from each other, try sitting at right angles such as just around the corner of 
the 
table from each other with the microphone between you.

If you are able to get the results you want using Sound Forge, and if you don't 
mind spending the extra time, then just stick with that and don't worry about 
the above.  Recombining channels to narrow the stereo sound stage is certainly 
a way to deal with this.  In an interview, maximum stereo separation is not 
always a good thing.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:05:39 +0100, joe bollard wrote:

hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk  recorder, place 
the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike 
and i 
on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide apart, if i 
listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished piece has to go 
out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never happy with the end 
result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to get it up to a high 
standard, 
thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my question, take care, regards 
from ireland, joe.
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Re: microphone and stereo question

2011-06-17 Thread Joe Giovanelli
Joe,

Steve probably already hit this, but just to sum up,  sit where you are but 
move the mike so that you both are equidistant from the mike but further from 
it.  What we have is a triangle which is formed by the mike, you, and the 
person you're interviewing.

Joe G.

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From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc comaudio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Friday, Jun 17, 2011 14:05:34
Subject: microphone and stereo question



 hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk  recorder, place 
 the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike 
 and i on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide 
 apart, if i listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished 
 piece has to go out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never 
 happy with the end result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to 
 get it up to a high standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my 
 question, take care, regards from ireland, joe.
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Re: microphone and stereo question

2011-06-17 Thread tim cumings
,joe why not convert the finished file to mono? On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:05:39 
+0100, joe 
bollard wrote:


hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk  recorder, place 
the 
microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike and 
i 
on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide apart, if 
i 
listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished piece has to go 
out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never happy with the 
end 
result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to get it up to a high 
standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my question, take care, 
regards from ireland, joe.
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Re: microphone and stereo question

2011-06-17 Thread Joe Giovanelli
Tim, I think he wants some stereo; I wanted that when I had my radio show many 
years ago.

Of course, mixing to mono is the cure if Steve can't fix the problem in any 
other way.

Joe G.

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Date: Friday, Jun 17, 2011 19:29:26
Subject: Re: microphone and stereo question



 1joe why not convert the finished file to mono? On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:05:39 
 +0100, joe 
 bollard wrote:
 
 
 hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk  recorder, place 
 the 
 microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike 
 and i 
 on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide apart, 
 if i 
 listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished piece has to go 
 out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never happy with the 
 end 
 result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to get it up to a high 
 standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my question, take 
 care, 
 regards from ireland, joe.
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