Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu
Jamie, Will this program be archived? I hope so, since I won't be available to hear the original. Thanks. Vinny - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that you will hear in the presentation. Hth - Original Message - From: hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu ill this play nls books - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010: This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March. Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit? Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus? How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most fascinating. Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time in the U.S. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Follow Main Menu on Twitter by visiting www.twitter.com/mainmenu ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu
Absolutely. I will let you know when the archive is up although I don't announce that on this list every week. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Vinny Samarco vin...@hughes.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu Jamie, Will this program be archived? I hope so, since I won't be available to hear the original. Thanks. Vinny - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that you will hear in the presentation. Hth - Original Message - From: hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu ill this play nls books - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010: This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March. Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit? Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus? How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most fascinating. Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time in the U.S. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Follow Main Menu on Twitter by visiting www.twitter.com/mainmenu ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu
ill this play nls books - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010: This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March. Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit? Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus? How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most fascinating. Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time in the U.S. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Follow Main Menu on Twitter by visiting www.twitter.com/mainmenu ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu
Greetings, I suggest listen to Main Menu and find out just as the rest of us will need to. No point in asking questions as the message clearly states the program will release information about this new device. From Colin Howard who lives near Southampton in Southern England. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu
It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that you will hear in the presentation. Hth - Original Message - From: hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu ill this play nls books - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010: This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March. Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit? Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus? How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most fascinating. Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time in the U.S. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Follow Main Menu on Twitter by visiting www.twitter.com/mainmenu ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu
I hope it is cheap - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that you will hear in the presentation. Hth - Original Message - From: hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu ill this play nls books - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010: This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March. Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit? Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus? How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most fascinating. Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time in the U.S. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Follow Main Menu on Twitter by visiting www.twitter.com/mainmenu ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu
In recent interviews Larry says they hope to price it in the mid 300s. - Original Message - From: hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu I hope it is cheap - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that you will hear in the presentation. Hth - Original Message - From: hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu ill this play nls books - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010: This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March. Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit? Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus? How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most fascinating. Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time in the U.S. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Follow Main Menu on Twitter by visiting www.twitter.com/mainmenu ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: the Book Port
When you listen to audible books, are you listening to the person reading them,or the computer voice? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. - Original Message - From: Aman Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:56 PM Subject: RE: the Book Port Hi. Jeff wrote You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Yes, this is what happens. You can resume at a specific spot (all files have a resume point held in memory for them), and you can put bookmarks in files at any point. The two are separate. That is, there is a temporary bookmark for each file where it's been stopped, as well as permanent bookmarks which can be put at specific places and removed. Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? No, the BP's firmware and software can be updated easily. When you start the program, it can check for updates automatically or you can hit the check updates button, as you wish. Both software and firmware updates are checked for and downloaded. I, too, wish there was a unit with Eloquence. However, if you're willing to put up with delay (I'm not), you can buy an MP3 player, convert your text files to MP3 with one of the converters, and have eloquence reading your texts to you. As I said, though, this process does take a few minutes per book, as well as resulting in files which take up more space than text files. Aman - Original Message - From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments. I do have a couple more questions about the BookPort. You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been contemplating it for quite some time. One of my reasons for doing so would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of players. However, I have read about the various formats and would probably want to use format 4 anyway. I am somewhat particular about quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this would not be an issue for me. If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other similar products I'd be interested. I really, really wish there was a unit like this with Eloquence. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the Book Port
the audible reader, but only in format 4. - Original Message - From: Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:42 AM Subject: Re: the Book Port When you listen to audible books, are you listening to the person reading them,or the computer voice? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. - Original Message - From: Aman Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:56 PM Subject: RE: the Book Port Hi. Jeff wrote You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Yes, this is what happens. You can resume at a specific spot (all files have a resume point held in memory for them), and you can put bookmarks in files at any point. The two are separate. That is, there is a temporary bookmark for each file where it's been stopped, as well as permanent bookmarks which can be put at specific places and removed. Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? No, the BP's firmware and software can be updated easily. When you start the program, it can check for updates automatically or you can hit the check updates button, as you wish. Both software and firmware updates are checked for and downloaded. I, too, wish there was a unit with Eloquence. However, if you're willing to put up with delay (I'm not), you can buy an MP3 player, convert your text files to MP3 with one of the converters, and have eloquence reading your texts to you. As I said, though, this process does take a few minutes per book, as well as resulting in files which take up more space than text files. Aman - Original Message - From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments. I do have a couple more questions about the BookPort. You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been contemplating it for quite some time. One of my reasons for doing so would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of players. However, I have read about the various formats and would probably want to use format 4 anyway. I am somewhat particular about quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this would not be an issue for me. If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other similar products I'd be interested. I really, really wish there was a unit like this with Eloquence. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the Book Port
Hi, When listening to Audible books on the Book Port, you are listening to the human narator who read the book for Audible. Robert Carter At 12:42 PM 7/18/2004, you wrote: When you listen to audible books, are you listening to the person reading them,or the computer voice? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. - Original Message - From: Aman Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:56 PM Subject: RE: the Book Port Hi. Jeff wrote You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Yes, this is what happens. You can resume at a specific spot (all files have a resume point held in memory for them), and you can put bookmarks in files at any point. The two are separate. That is, there is a temporary bookmark for each file where it's been stopped, as well as permanent bookmarks which can be put at specific places and removed. Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? No, the BP's firmware and software can be updated easily. When you start the program, it can check for updates automatically or you can hit the check updates button, as you wish. Both software and firmware updates are checked for and downloaded. I, too, wish there was a unit with Eloquence. However, if you're willing to put up with delay (I'm not), you can buy an MP3 player, convert your text files to MP3 with one of the converters, and have eloquence reading your texts to you. As I said, though, this process does take a few minutes per book, as well as resulting in files which take up more space than text files. Aman - Original Message - From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments. I do have a couple more questions about the BookPort. You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been contemplating it for quite some time. One of my reasons for doing so would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of players. However, I have read about the various formats and would probably want to use format 4 anyway. I am somewhat particular about quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this would not be an issue for me. If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other similar products I'd be interested. I really, really wish there was a unit like this with Eloquence. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the Book Port
Hi Are most of the books available in format 4? Marsha Anderson ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi. Jeff wrote You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Yes, this is what happens. You can resume at a specific spot (all files have a resume point held in memory for them), and you can put bookmarks in files at any point. The two are separate. That is, there is a temporary bookmark for each file where it's been stopped, as well as permanent bookmarks which can be put at specific places and removed. Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? No, the BP's firmware and software can be updated easily. When you start the program, it can check for updates automatically or you can hit the check updates button, as you wish. Both software and firmware updates are checked for and downloaded. I, too, wish there was a unit with Eloquence. However, if you're willing to put up with delay (I'm not), you can buy an MP3 player, convert your text files to MP3 with one of the converters, and have eloquence reading your texts to you. As I said, though, this process does take a few minutes per book, as well as resulting in files which take up more space than text files. Aman - Original Message - From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments. I do have a couple more questions about the BookPort. You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been contemplating it for quite some time. One of my reasons for doing so would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of players. However, I have read about the various formats and would probably want to use format 4 anyway. I am somewhat particular about quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this would not be an issue for me. If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other similar products I'd be interested. I really, really wish there was a unit like this with Eloquence. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You can stop an mp3 file on the book port and resume where you left off at any time. You can also place book marks on an mp3 I think. - Original Message - From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments. I do have a couple more questions about the BookPort. You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been contemplating it for quite some time. One of my reasons for doing so would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of players. However, I have read about the various formats and would probably want to use format 4 anyway. I am somewhat particular about quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this would not be an issue for me. If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other similar products I'd be interested. I really, really wish there was a unit like this with Eloquence. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi. Although you can use rechargeable batteries with the bookport, it is not recommended as you might not get a correct percentage of the battery life remaining. But I know some people who use rechargeables. I don't and get probably 60 hours or more. At 7/11/2004, you wrote: According to the manual for the Book Port, mp3 at 128 bit rate will play fine and in stereo. There is no A.C. plug adapter. Its recommended that you buy and use rechargeable batteries and recharge on a separate battery charger. The unit comes with a 64 mb flash card and you can buy additional flash cards from your local computer store. I understand that both the Book Port and the Book courier will accept storage/playback of Audible books from audible.com Hope this information helps you a little more to get a clear idea of the Book Port. Aloha, Milton M. Ota Associate Dealer, Hawaii Island Computer Access Now, I.C.A.N. 1318 Kanewai Street Honolulu, Hawaii 96816-1718 Phone: (808)734-0612 Cell: (808)295-2528 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.hgea.org/~mota -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff - The Ultra Guy Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 12:41 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: the Book Port Thanks, Milton, for the information in your message quoted below. If only there was a similar product which used Eloquence text to speech rather than Doubletalk I'd snap it up in a heartbeat. I read the article comparing the BookPort and BookCourier, but I felt it did an inadequate job of comparison. It really just listed the features of each product without much comparison. Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of these products. What bit rates do they support? More importantly, what bit rates do they *not* support? Can bookmarks be placed within mp3 files? I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the detailed differences between the two units in this regard. Are there other products which I should consider for listening to audio/audible.com books? Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors. Can either of these units be run off of AC? If not, it seems one would go through a lot of batteries. I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less expensive, it also includes twice the memory. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US - Original Message - From: Milton M. Ota [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:59 PM Allow me to answer two postings in one-- I believe that the firmware in the BookPort over the Book Courier will support Daisy format 3.0 where the Book Courier currently was only supporting Daisy format 2.2. Whether that makes any difference at this time is not that important as there are not many books available in Daisy 3.0. The BookPort is a product of the American Printing House for the Blind, Inc. information about the BookPort can be found at their website at: http://www.aph.org/ You can find a website on the Book courier at: http://www.bookcourier.com/ And for all interested parties, go to the web of the American Foundation for the Blind's Accessworld for July 2004 and read a comparison report of the two devices we are talking about here. http://www.afb.org/accessworld/ Aloha, Milton M. Ota ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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APH and it was $375 Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. - Original Message - From: doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Who carries this product and how much does it cost? Doc Wright http://wrightplaceinc.net When I've given all that I have to give Its just the least I can do for my neighbor. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi. There have been seven or eight upgrades, both to the firmware in the unit and to the transfer software on the PC. Have a look at http://sun1.aph.org/tech/bp_new.htm for a list up to march of this year. After march, the major additions are the ability to play Audible books and the ability to increase the speed of files before they're sent to the machine. Aman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Shaker Sent: July 11, 2004 1:15 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: the Book Port While I totally agree with Mr. Carter about the book port, and I purchased one at the very outset, I haven't heard of any upgrades. Can anyone tell me whether there have been any? Jim ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just bought oneand love it. My husband whois sighted also bought one for his audible and mp3 books. Very fine machine! - Original Message - From: Robert Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Hi, I would respectfully disagree with this. The Book Port was designed specifically for people who are blind. It will play contracted grade 2 files and the transfer software is much more designed to work well giving one audio feedback as transfers are happening. Both devices use the same basic hardware with some differences in the keypad and the user interface. Again, I put my vote in for the Book Port. The current public beta will even allow one to speed-up audio files compressing them without changing the pitch. It will play Audible files as well. Robert Carter At 04:54 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote: you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the same company for APH. -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey: At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do they think of the accessibility and the voice quality? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks, Milton, for the information in your message quoted below. If only there was a similar product which used Eloquence text to speech rather than Doubletalk I'd snap it up in a heartbeat. I read the article comparing the BookPort and BookCourier, but I felt it did an inadequate job of comparison. It really just listed the features of each product without much comparison. Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of these products. What bit rates do they support? More importantly, what bit rates do they *not* support? Can bookmarks be placed within mp3 files? I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the detailed differences between the two units in this regard. Are there other products which I should consider for listening to audio/audible.com books? Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors. Can either of these units be run off of AC? If not, it seems one would go through a lot of batteries. I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less expensive, it also includes twice the memory. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US - Original Message - From: Milton M. Ota [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:59 PM Allow me to answer two postings in one-- I believe that the firmware in the BookPort over the Book Courier will support Daisy format 3.0 where the Book Courier currently was only supporting Daisy format 2.2. Whether that makes any difference at this time is not that important as there are not many books available in Daisy 3.0. The BookPort is a product of the American Printing House for the Blind, Inc. information about the BookPort can be found at their website at: http://www.aph.org/ You can find a website on the Book courier at: http://www.bookcourier.com/ And for all interested parties, go to the web of the American Foundation for the Blind's Accessworld for July 2004 and read a comparison report of the two devices we are talking about here. http://www.afb.org/accessworld/ Aloha, Milton M. Ota ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi. I'd spend the extra money and get the bookport. It does more than the book courier. you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the same company for APH. -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey: At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do they think of the accessibility and the voice quality? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The courier has less functions and I think it cannot read as many file types. it is easier to learn because it doesn't do as much. So you need to decide if you want something that might take you a bit longer to learn how to use or not. What's the difference b/t the two? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. - Original Message - From: Gary G. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the same company for APH. -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey: At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do they think of the accessibility and the voice quality? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Jim. Aren't you on the bookport list? You might want to go to the aph web site and join the bookport e-mail list. There is quite a bit of beta testing going on for those who want to do so. While I totally agree with Mr. Carter about the book port, and I purchased one at the very outset, I haven't heard of any upgrades. Can anyone tell me whether there have been any? Jim ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Jeff and listers, I bought the BC when it first came out but my unit was buggy and ran through batteries at an alarming clip. I also lost a memory card to the device and had to send it in for service when it totally stopped working after a battery change. So when I finally got around to the APH web site and read about the Bookport, I kicked myself for not having gone that route. When I received a bonus from work, I bought the bookport. The Bookcourier sits in a drawer unused, and that is my backup device. As far as the bookport goes, we are inseparable! And I do mean inseparable! It lives in the pocket of whatever I'm wearing--it's in my robe pocket as I write this, and it travels with me everywhere. Battery changes take place about once a week. It handles a wider variety of formats more gracefully than does the BC. Here are my specific comments regarding the questions you pose: I read the article comparing the Bookport and BookCourier, but I felt it did an inadequate job of comparison. It really just listed the features of each product without much comparison. I agree. The one comment they made that was helpful was that it is far too easy to record a memo by accident on the bookport--you really need to establish the habit of locking it when it's not in use. Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of these products. What bit rates do they support? More importantly, what bit rates do they *not* support? I Haven't come across a bit rate which either device would not handle. I frequently record at very low bit rates for spoken word material and these do not present any problems. Can bookmarks be placed within mp3 files? Yes for the Bookport, no for the Bookcourier. The BP also has better navigation of .mp3 files--I.E. you can back up by phrases or longer pauses. In the case of music files, you can navigate by five or ten seconds or a minute at a time. There is also a way to do rapid jumps. On the BC, you are limited to jumping by 5 percent increments within the file and you cannot set bookmarks. I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the detailed differences between the two units in this regard. On the BP, the audible support is in beta-testing, for which you can download the beta firmwear and transfer software from the website. Audible works very well on both devices, but you are limited to format 4 on either one of them. This means your files are going to be huge and will take longer to download, although the audio quality almost makes it worth it. Are there other products which I should consider for listening to audio/audible.com books? In my opinion, either one of these devices is the most accessible audible-ready device, if you don't mind the extra time and overhead involved in using format 4. The Audible Otis, which is no longer sold, also worked well and supports formats 2 and 3 if you can get your hands on one of these, but it doesn't resume in normal .mp3 files and of course doesn't give you verbal feedback. Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors. Can either of these units be run off of AC? If not, it seems one would go through a lot of batteries. Neither comes with an adapter, nor is there a plug for one on the unit. I strongly recommend the use of NIMH rechargeables--there are chargers out now that will fully charge these in less than an hour. One hint: store charged spares in a baggy in your freezer--they retain the charge much longer that way. I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less expensive, it also includes twice the memory. True, but you can purchase compact flash I cards with up to 2GB memory that will work in either device. The 2GB guys are terribly expensive, but there are usually pretty good deals on 256MB and 512MB cards. Hope these comments are helpful. Debbie ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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According to the manual for the Book Port, mp3 at 128 bit rate will play fine and in stereo. There is no A.C. plug adapter. Its recommended that you buy and use rechargeable batteries and recharge on a separate battery charger. The unit comes with a 64 mb flash card and you can buy additional flash cards from your local computer store. I understand that both the Book Port and the Book courier will accept storage/playback of Audible books from audible.com Hope this information helps you a little more to get a clear idea of the Book Port. Aloha, Milton M. Ota Associate Dealer, Hawaii Island Computer Access Now, I.C.A.N. 1318 Kanewai Street Honolulu, Hawaii 96816-1718 Phone: (808)734-0612 Cell: (808)295-2528 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.hgea.org/~mota -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff - The Ultra Guy Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 12:41 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: the Book Port Thanks, Milton, for the information in your message quoted below. If only there was a similar product which used Eloquence text to speech rather than Doubletalk I'd snap it up in a heartbeat. I read the article comparing the BookPort and BookCourier, but I felt it did an inadequate job of comparison. It really just listed the features of each product without much comparison. Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of these products. What bit rates do they support? More importantly, what bit rates do they *not* support? Can bookmarks be placed within mp3 files? I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the detailed differences between the two units in this regard. Are there other products which I should consider for listening to audio/audible.com books? Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors. Can either of these units be run off of AC? If not, it seems one would go through a lot of batteries. I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less expensive, it also includes twice the memory. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US - Original Message - From: Milton M. Ota [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:59 PM Allow me to answer two postings in one-- I believe that the firmware in the BookPort over the Book Courier will support Daisy format 3.0 where the Book Courier currently was only supporting Daisy format 2.2. Whether that makes any difference at this time is not that important as there are not many books available in Daisy 3.0. The BookPort is a product of the American Printing House for the Blind, Inc. information about the BookPort can be found at their website at: http://www.aph.org/ You can find a website on the Book courier at: http://www.bookcourier.com/ And for all interested parties, go to the web of the American Foundation for the Blind's Accessworld for July 2004 and read a comparison report of the two devices we are talking about here. http://www.afb.org/accessworld/ Aloha, Milton M. Ota ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments. I do have a couple more questions about the BookPort. You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been contemplating it for quite some time. One of my reasons for doing so would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of players. However, I have read about the various formats and would probably want to use format 4 anyway. I am somewhat particular about quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this would not be an issue for me. If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other similar products I'd be interested. I really, really wish there was a unit like this with Eloquence. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jeff, Both the BC and BP have auto-resume for any file type. Also the update procedures are about the same for both--the Bookport transfer software automatically notifies you of updates and will download them automatically if you tell it to do so. The Doubletalk synthe really is not that bad--I lived with it on my PC for years, so it's like an old friend to me, although I agree with you that Eloquence would be superior. My only complaint--and this applies to either device--is that the volume at which it reads and the volume at which MP3 files are played is quite different. So if you've been reading text or .htm files and you want to listen to an .mp3 or Audible file, best turn the volume down a few notches first if you want to keep your ears from ringing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff - The Ultra Guy Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 8:32 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: the Book Port Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments. I do have a couple more questions about the BookPort. You mentioned resuming in mp3 files. Are you saying that the BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and start at that spot when you resume listening? Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the software. Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP, although I realize it can be done. Is it more difficult to update software/firmware on the BP than on the BC? Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been contemplating it for quite some time. One of my reasons for doing so would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of players. However, I have read about the various formats and would probably want to use format 4 anyway. I am somewhat particular about quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this would not be an issue for me. If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other similar products I'd be interested. I really, really wish there was a unit like this with Eloquence. Jeff, the Ultra guy http://www.UltraHost.US http://www.UltraRadio.US ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: the Book Port
You sold me on the book port! -- Debbie Crafts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jeff and listers, I bought the BC when it first came out but my unit was buggy and ran through batteries at an alarming clip. I also lost a memory card to the device and had to send it in for service when it totally stopped working after a battery change. So when I finally got around to the APH web site and read about the Bookport, I kicked myself for not having gone that route. When I received a bonus from work, I bought the bookport. The Bookcourier sits in a drawer unused, and that is my backup device. As far as the bookport goes, we are inseparable! And I do mean inseparable! It lives in the pocket of whatever I'm wearing--it's in my robe pocket as I write this, and it travels with me everywhere. Battery changes take place about once a week. It handles a wider variety of formats more gracefully than does the BC. Here are my specific comments regarding the questions you pose: I read the article comparing the Bookport and BookCourier, but I felt it did an inadequate job of comparison. It really just listed the features of each product without much comparison. I agree. The one comment they made that was helpful was that it is far too easy to record a memo by accident on the bookport--you really need to establish the habit of locking it when it's not in use. Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of these products. What bit rates do they support? More importantly, what bit rates do they *not* support? I Haven't come across a bit rate which either device would not handle. I frequently record at very low bit rates for spoken word material and these do not present any problems. Can bookmarks be placed within mp3 files? Yes for the Bookport, no for the Bookcourier. The BP also has better navigation of .mp3 files--I.E. you can back up by phrases or longer pauses. In the case of music files, you can navigate by five or ten seconds or a minute at a time. There is also a way to do rapid jumps. On the BC, you are limited to jumping by 5 percent increments within the file and you cannot set bookmarks. I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the detailed differences between the two units in this regard. On the BP, the audible support is in beta-testing, for which you can download the beta firmwear and transfer software from the website. Audible works very well on both devices, but you are limited to format 4 on either one of them. This means your files are going to be huge and will take longer to download, although the audio quality almost makes it worth it. Are there other products which I should consider for listening to audio/audible.com books? In my opinion, either one of these devices is the most accessible audible-ready device, if you don't mind the extra time and overhead involved in using format 4. The Audible Otis, which is no longer sold, also worked well and supports formats 2 and 3 if you can get your hands on one of these, but it doesn't resume in normal .mp3 files and of course doesn't give you verbal feedback. Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors. Can either of these units be run off of AC? If not, it seems one would go through a lot of batteries. Neither comes with an adapter, nor is there a plug for one on the unit. I strongly recommend the use of NIMH rechargeables--there are chargers out now that will fully charge these in less than an hour. One hint: store charged spares in a baggy in your freezer--they retain the charge much longer that way. I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less expensive, it also includes twice the memory. True, but you can purchase compact flash I cards with up to 2GB memory that will work in either device. The 2GB guys are terribly expensive, but there are usually pretty good deals on 256MB and 512MB cards. Hope these comments are helpful. Debbie ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the Book Port
Hi, I would respectfully disagree with this. The Book Port was designed specifically for people who are blind. It will play contracted grade 2 files and the transfer software is much more designed to work well giving one audio feedback as transfers are happening. Both devices use the same basic hardware with some differences in the keypad and the user interface. Again, I put my vote in for the Book Port. The current public beta will even allow one to speed-up audio files compressing them without changing the pitch. It will play Audible files as well. Robert Carter At 04:54 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote: you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the same company for APH. -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey: At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do they think of the accessibility and the voice quality? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the Book Port
What's the difference b/t the two? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. - Original Message - From: Gary G. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the same company for APH. -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey: At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do they think of the accessibility and the voice quality? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: the Book Port
Allow me to answer two postings in one-- I believe that the firmware in the BookPort over the Book Courier will support Daisy format 3.0 where the Book Courier currently was only supporting Daisy format 2.2. Whether that makes any difference at this time is not that important as there are not many books available in Daisy 3.0. The BookPort is a product of the American Printing House for the Blind, Inc. information about the BookPort can be found at their website at: http://www.aph.org/ You can find a website on the Book courier at: http://www.bookcourier.com/ And for all interested parties, go to the web of the American Foundation for the Blind's Accessworld for July 2004 and read a comparison report of the two devices we are talking about here. http://www.afb.org/accessworld/ Aloha, Milton M. Ota Associate Dealer, Hawaii Island Computer Access Now, I.C.A.N. 1318 Kanewai Street Honolulu, Hawaii 96816-1718 Phone: (808)734-0612 Cell: (808)295-2528 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.hgea.org/~mota -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:06 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: the Book Port and where do you find this program/ player? - Original Message - From: Robert Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 6:38 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Hi, I would respectfully disagree with this. The Book Port was designed specifically for people who are blind. It will play contracted grade 2 files and the transfer software is much more designed to work well giving one audio feedback as transfers are happening. Both devices use the same basic hardware with some differences in the keypad and the user interface. Again, I put my vote in for the Book Port. The current public beta will even allow one to speed-up audio files compressing them without changing the pitch. It will play Audible files as well. Robert Carter At 04:54 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote: you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the same company for APH. -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey: At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do they think of the accessibility and the voice quality? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the Book Port
Hi, The Book Port is sold by the American Printing House for the Blind. http://www.aph.org/tech Robert Carter At 07:05 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote: and where do you find this program/ player? - Original Message - From: Robert Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 6:38 PM Subject: Re: the Book Port Hi, I would respectfully disagree with this. The Book Port was designed specifically for people who are blind. It will play contracted grade 2 files and the transfer software is much more designed to work well giving one audio feedback as transfers are happening. Both devices use the same basic hardware with some differences in the keypad and the user interface. Again, I put my vote in for the Book Port. The current public beta will even allow one to speed-up audio files compressing them without changing the pitch. It will play Audible files as well. Robert Carter At 04:54 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote: you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the same company for APH. -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey: At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do they think of the accessibility and the voice quality? Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the Book Port
Who carries this product and how much does it cost? Doc Wright http://wrightplaceinc.net When I've given all that I have to give Its just the least I can do for my neighbor. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the Book Port
While I totally agree with Mr. Carter about the book port, and I purchased one at the very outset, I haven't heard of any upgrades. Can anyone tell me whether there have been any? Jim ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: the Book Port
The bookPort is from the american Printing House for the Blind and it cost around $399.00. Aloha, Milton M. Ota Associate Dealer, Hawaii Island Computer Access Now, I.C.A.N. 1318 Kanewai Street Honolulu, Hawaii 96816-1718 Phone: (808)734-0612 Cell: (808)295-2528 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.hgea.org/~mota -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doc Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 6:17 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: the Book Port Who carries this product and how much does it cost? Doc Wright http://wrightplaceinc.net When I've given all that I have to give Its just the least I can do for my neighbor. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
