Re: Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

2011-12-08 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dave,

What I was trying to get at is that it is possible that the silence he is 
observing between tracks may 
be part of the player's logic and not actual silence within the MP3 files.  
There may not really be 
anything to trim.  That was all I was trying to say.  In some CD creators, the 
gap is inserted by the 
creator software, and the gap length can be changed or even eliminated, and in 
that case the gaps are 
not part of the audio files that make up the tracks, but I suspect that this 
all can vary with how the 
files are created, what software is used to create the files, and what is being 
used to play the files.  

One concern I have is that some routines that eliminate silence can eliminate 
silence that is part of a 
recording that one may not wish to remove.  Also, silence itself can be defined 
as a minimum value, and 
if one is not careful, one can loose pauses or very quiet passages, 
particularly on classical music, or 
one could loose part of a fade-out ending.  As usual, things can get more 
complex than one might think.  
That is why I thought it might be worth trying to determin first if the gaps 
werebeing introduced by the 
player before trying to edit audio files.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:36:28 -0700, Dave Bahr wrote:

>that is true, it might remove that silence, but wouldn't the code just 
>call for looking at the beginning and ending of the file? As for cds, 
>yeah that's just assumed you want the gaps, itunes has this annoying 
>habit of trying to determine gapless playback information, which takes 
>forever and I haven't had a chance to figure out how to disable that check.


>Dave c. bahr


>On 12/7/2011 10:02 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:
>>  Check to be sure that the gaps are not being added by the player you
>>  are using. I know that when creating an audio CD, it is common
>>  practice to automatically insert silence between tracks that is not
>>  actually present in the individual files, and I believe I've seen
>>  this behavior when playing files from play lists but can't tell you
>>  for certain where to check. Clearly if the silences are part of the
>>  MP3 file, Dave's suggestion will work, although it might remove
>>  silence that you don't intend to remove.
>>
>>  Best regards,
>>
>>  Steve Jacobson
>>
>>  On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:49:24 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>>
>> > Got it thank you.
>>
>> > -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>> > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave bahr Sent:
>> > 07 December 2011 16:12 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re:
>> > Removing the Headings on an MP3 File
>>
>> > you can use the auto trim feature in goldwave to trim out the
>> > silences. Just specify how long you want things to be in seconds,
>> > then the db threshold of the silence, that takes some trial and
>> > error, and then wehther you want the leading or trailing silences
>> > to be removed, or both. Sounds complex but if you have audio from
>> > the same source, once you get the initial file set up you can just
>> > use those parameters on each one, or you can even do a batch run on
>> > the files with the parameters you set. Make sense?
>>
>>
>> > Dave C. Bahr
>>
>> > On 12/7/2011 8:59 AM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>> >> Hello everyone, how can I remove the ehaders of MP3 files so that
>> >> when playing them in a playlist there will be no gap between
>> >> them? Thank you.
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Re: Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

2011-12-07 Thread Dave Bahr
that is true, it might remove that silence, but wouldn't the code just 
call for looking at the beginning and ending of the file? As for cds, 
yeah that's just assumed you want the gaps, itunes has this annoying 
habit of trying to determine gapless playback information, which takes 
forever and I haven't had a chance to figure out how to disable that check.



Dave c. bahr


On 12/7/2011 10:02 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:

 Check to be sure that the gaps are not being added by the player you
 are using. I know that when creating an audio CD, it is common
 practice to automatically insert silence between tracks that is not
 actually present in the individual files, and I believe I've seen
 this behavior when playing files from play lists but can't tell you
 for certain where to check. Clearly if the silences are part of the
 MP3 file, Dave's suggestion will work, although it might remove
 silence that you don't intend to remove.

 Best regards,

 Steve Jacobson

 On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:49:24 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote:

> Got it thank you.

> -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave bahr Sent:
> 07 December 2011 16:12 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re:
> Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

> you can use the auto trim feature in goldwave to trim out the
> silences. Just specify how long you want things to be in seconds,
> then the db threshold of the silence, that takes some trial and
> error, and then wehther you want the leading or trailing silences
> to be removed, or both. Sounds complex but if you have audio from
> the same source, once you get the initial file set up you can just
> use those parameters on each one, or you can even do a batch run on
> the files with the parameters you set. Make sense?


> Dave C. Bahr

> On 12/7/2011 8:59 AM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>> Hello everyone, how can I remove the ehaders of MP3 files so that
>> when playing them in a playlist there will be no gap between
>> them? Thank you.
>>
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RE: Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

2011-12-07 Thread Steve Jacobson
Check to be sure that the gaps are not being added by the player you are using. 
 I know that when 
creating an audio CD, it is common practice to automatically insert silence 
between tracks that is not 
actually present in the individual files, and I believe I've seen this behavior 
when playing files from 
play lists but can't tell you for certain where to check.  Clearly if the 
silences are part of the MP3 
file, Dave's suggestion will work, although it might remove silence that you 
don't intend to remove.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:49:24 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote:

>Got it thank you. 

>-Original Message-
>From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>On Behalf Of Dave bahr
>Sent: 07 December 2011 16:12
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

>you can use the auto trim feature in goldwave to trim out the silences. 
>Just specify how long you want things to be in seconds, then the db 
>threshold of the silence, that takes some trial and error, and then 
>wehther you want the leading or trailing silences to be removed, or 
>both. Sounds complex but if you have audio from the same source, once 
>you get the initial file set up you can just use those parameters on 
>each one, or you can even do a batch run on the files with the 
>parameters you set. Make sense?


>Dave C. Bahr

>On 12/7/2011 8:59 AM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>> Hello everyone, how can I remove the ehaders of MP3 files so that when
>> playing them in a playlist there will be no gap between them? Thank you.
>>
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RE: Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

2011-12-07 Thread Samuel Wilkins
Got it thank you. 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Dave bahr
Sent: 07 December 2011 16:12
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

you can use the auto trim feature in goldwave to trim out the silences. 
Just specify how long you want things to be in seconds, then the db 
threshold of the silence, that takes some trial and error, and then 
wehther you want the leading or trailing silences to be removed, or 
both. Sounds complex but if you have audio from the same source, once 
you get the initial file set up you can just use those parameters on 
each one, or you can even do a batch run on the files with the 
parameters you set. Make sense? 


Dave C. Bahr

On 12/7/2011 8:59 AM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
> Hello everyone, how can I remove the ehaders of MP3 files so that when
> playing them in a playlist there will be no gap between them? Thank you.
>
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Re: Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

2011-12-07 Thread Dave bahr
you can use the auto trim feature in goldwave to trim out the silences. 
Just specify how long you want things to be in seconds, then the db 
threshold of the silence, that takes some trial and error, and then 
wehther you want the leading or trailing silences to be removed, or 
both. Sounds complex but if you have audio from the same source, once 
you get the initial file set up you can just use those parameters on 
each one, or you can even do a batch run on the files with the 
parameters you set. Make sense? 	



Dave C. Bahr

On 12/7/2011 8:59 AM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:

Hello everyone, how can I remove the ehaders of MP3 files so that when
playing them in a playlist there will be no gap between them? Thank you.


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Removing the Headings on an MP3 File

2011-12-07 Thread Samuel Wilkins
Hello everyone, how can I remove the ehaders of MP3 files so that when
playing them in a playlist there will be no gap between them? Thank you. 


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