Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Miller Puckette via Pd-dev]

No idea.  I've been barely able to keep things afloat at all recently :)

M

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 05:53:46PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Hey, now that 0.53 is out, I gotta ask :) I was assuming a new version was
> planned for the end of the year, with things like multi channel
> connections. What are the plans now? Should we expect a 0.54 version in
> less than 12 months at least? :)
> 
> thanks
> Alex
> 
> Em sáb., 22 de out. de 2022 às 13:13, IOhannes m zmölnig 
> escreveu:
> 
> > On 10/21/22 22:18, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
> > > (In reply to Iohannes - I can't reply directly to the mail for some
> > reason) -
> > >
> > > I'm leaving for a 5-day trip Thursday - hoping to grind the
> > > release out Monday so I have time to fix whatever turns out to be broken
> >
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > i've updated the i18n branch to include some more (and more complete)
> > translations and also to actually build these translations (so they are
> > shipped with the release binaries).
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Hey, now that 0.53 is out, I gotta ask :) I was assuming a new version was
planned for the end of the year, with things like multi channel
connections. What are the plans now? Should we expect a 0.54 version in
less than 12 months at least? :)

thanks
Alex

Em sáb., 22 de out. de 2022 às 13:13, IOhannes m zmölnig 
escreveu:

> On 10/21/22 22:18, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
> > (In reply to Iohannes - I can't reply directly to the mail for some
> reason) -
> >
> > I'm leaving for a 5-day trip Thursday - hoping to grind the
> > release out Monday so I have time to fix whatever turns out to be broken
>
>
> thanks.
>
> i've updated the i18n branch to include some more (and more complete)
> translations and also to actually build these translations (so they are
> shipped with the release binaries).
>
> gfmds
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 10/21/22 22:18, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:

(In reply to Iohannes - I can't reply directly to the mail for some reason) -

I'm leaving for a 5-day trip Thursday - hoping to grind the
release out Monday so I have time to fix whatever turns out to be broken



thanks.

i've updated the i18n branch to include some more (and more complete) 
translations and also to actually build these translations (so they are 
shipped with the release binaries).


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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Miller Puckette via Pd-dev]

(In reply to Iohannes - I can't reply directly to the mail for some reason) -

I'm leaving for a 5-day trip Thursday - hoping to grind the
release out Monday so I have time to fix whatever turns out to be broken
before hitting the road.

cheers
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 10/16/22 16:58, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:

OK, I'm convinced.  Anyhow there are plenty of possible version numbers left :)



:-)

i see you have merged another round of PRs.

do you have an estimate on when the release is going to happen?
i'm mainly asking because of the translations, which currently have 
gained a bit of momentum (dutch, french, german, korean, brazilean 
portuguese and russion are now complete; spanish almost; canadian 
english, italian and hungarian have also considerable portions translated).

i thought about pushing the ukrainian translation a bit.


in any case, it would be great to have an approx schedule, so i can 
prepare an updated i18n branch in time.



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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Note that my documentation branch also has some new last commits for the
release as well. I don't have anything else in the horizon now to add here.
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1770

Em seg., 17 de out. de 2022 às 17:51, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Em sex., 14 de out. de 2022 às 01:21, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> I got a couple of simple PRs labeled as bug fixes sitting there
>> - https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1683
>> - https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1618
>>
>
> Both above had conflicts that I have now resolved so they're ready to
> merge. Would you consider merging them now Miller?
>
> Thanks
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em sex., 14 de out. de 2022 às 01:21, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> I got a couple of simple PRs labeled as bug fixes sitting there
> - https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1683
> - https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1618
>

Both above had conflicts that I have now resolved so they're ready to
merge. Would you consider merging them now Miller?

Thanks

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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em sex., 14 de out. de 2022 às 10:33, Antoine Rousseau 
escreveu:

> note that #1635 has conflicts; I think it has been made obsolete by the
> recent rework of the interface to GUI (probably should be closed).
>

I see objects are now moved via the "move" command, but not graphs as in my
PR. I may close it but will keep the issue opened or reboot it


>
> Antoine
>
>
>
> Le ven. 14 oct. 2022 à 06:23, Alexandre Torres Porres 
> a écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> Em qui., 13 de out. de 2022 às 23:26, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
>> pd-dev@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
>>
>>> Are there other updates that need to make
>>> their way into Pd 0.52-1?
>>>
>>
>> btw, I was checking, current version is 0.52-2, so the bugfix update
>> would be 0.52-3, right?
>>
>> cheers
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

I guess I don't understand the meaning of 'regression' actually.

Anyway, I see some of my help files updates were considering 0.53, like the
unification of sliders, so yeah, even though there's not much new, there it
is :)

Em dom., 16 de out. de 2022 às 13:47, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> What are the regressions? I could only see bug fixes.
>
> Em sáb., 15 de out. de 2022 às 17:01, IOhannes m zmölnig 
> escreveu:
>
>> Am 14. Oktober 2022 18:13:00 MESZ schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres
>> :
>> >Em sex., 14 de out. de 2022 às 12:12, IOhannes m zmölnig <
>> zmoel...@iem.at>
>> >escreveu:
>> >
>> >> Am 14. Oktober 2022 15:32:42 MESZ schrieb Antoine Rousseau <
>> >> anto...@metalu.net>:
>> >> >has been made obsolete by the
>> >> >recent rework of the interface to GUI
>> >>
>> >> Speaking of which: I think a bugfix release 0.52.3 should probably
>> *not*
>> >> contain the "rework of the interface to GUI", which is a rather big
>> >> change...
>> >>
>> >
>> >Why not? We're talking about things that had already been merged before,
>>
>> So what?
>>
>> i'm not really sure i understand what you mean exactly with "have been
>> merged before".
>> the fact that the PRs have already been merged into master?
>> how is that related to "bugfix release"?
>>
>>
>> >right? It seems to me most changes are "under the hood" and not proper
>> new
>> >features.
>>
>>
>> And all of them include regressions.
>>
>>
>> imho, a "bugfix release" is a promise to the user that says "nothing has
>> changed with respect to the previous release, except we fixed these
>> annoying bugs".
>> so i worry not about "features" but about "anything not a bugfix".
>>
>> and with 0.52-3, plenty of things have changed (and a few annoying bugs
>> have been fixed as well).
>> ~70 C-files have been modified, and 3 header files have been modified
>> (suggesting additions to the API)
>>
>> so i just fail to understand why we can't just call it "0.53-0", as this
>> clearly is beyond a "bugfix" release.
>>
>>
>> i'm probably highly influenced by semantic versioning [1], which is
>> targetting versioning for libraries (API/ABI compatibility) rather than
>> applications, but i think the model is so great that it can be applied
>> to any software (that is not released very frequently).
>>
>> in any case: i'm not the one who is deciding on the versioning.
>>
>>
>> gfmdsa
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Dan Wilcox]

(Whoops, sending again with correct subject line)

So far, we have been merging simple fixes into the develop branch, but another 
approach could be to have two develop branches:

* develop: merged things agreed upon for the next release, things which *may* 
need additional testing as we move forward
* develop-stable: bugfixes only, as applied to the current release version

For many projects which use git, the master/main branch would be a 
"develop-stable" and people would checkout releases based on tags. Then a 
develop branch would be stuff like new features and updates for the next 
version which would be merged to master/main later on.

We have stayed out of touching the master branch since it would have conflicted 
with the original sourceforge git repository and only Miller touches it. Maybe 
this is no longer a requirement?

> On Oct 15, 2022, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at 
>  wrote:
> 
> Even though it's not considered correct behavior, I still find it less
> problematic to fully commit to changes in the main branch than to try to
> maintain long twisted chains of duplicate bugfixes in both master and in some
> 0.52 branch - this didn't work out so well this time around (I cornered myself
> into taking the GUI updates into a minor release) but, ouch, we all just have 
> to
> deal with my 1970s-vintage coding skills :)


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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

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Em dom., 16 de out. de 2022 às 11:59, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
pd-dev@lists.iem.at> escreveu:

> OK, I'm convinced.  Anyhow there are plenty of possible version numbers
> left :)
>

Does this mean we're getting the same update now but as 0.53-0?


>
> Another reason could be that I'm unable to do as much testing myself as
> usual.
>
> A minor inconvenience is that the older-mac compiles will have to wait
> until I can
> get back to my usual lair.
>

I still can't see the new test compilations up in your website. What about
those? I think older mac versions (32 bits) are very rarely used these days.


>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 03:09:52PM +0200, Thomas Mayer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On 15.10.22 22:00, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> > > imho, a "bugfix release" is a promise to the user that says "nothing
> has
> > > changed with respect to the previous release, except we fixed these
> > > annoying bugs".
> > > so i worry not about "features" but about "anything not a bugfix".
> > >
> > > and with 0.52-3, plenty of things have changed (and a few annoying bugs
> > > have been fixed as well).
> > > ~70 C-files have been modified, and 3 header files have been modified
> > > (suggesting additions to the API)
> > >
> > > so i just fail to understand why we can't just call it "0.53-0", as
> this
> > > clearly is beyond a "bugfix" release.
> >
> > I fully agree with IOhannes. Someone may need a bugfix for their concert
> > next week and they are positively surprised by getting this bugfix just
> in
> > time, while being negatively surprised by the regression during their
> > performance. Signalling big changes by version number is a good thing.
> >
> > Not every user read the release info or changelog, as to most this is
> > unintelligable gibberish (What exactly does "rework of GUI code" mean to
> an
> > end user?)
> >
> > Just my 0,02€,
> > Thomas
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

What are the regressions? I could only see bug fixes.

Em sáb., 15 de out. de 2022 às 17:01, IOhannes m zmölnig 
escreveu:

> Am 14. Oktober 2022 18:13:00 MESZ schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres
> :
> >Em sex., 14 de out. de 2022 às 12:12, IOhannes m zmölnig  >
> >escreveu:
> >
> >> Am 14. Oktober 2022 15:32:42 MESZ schrieb Antoine Rousseau <
> >> anto...@metalu.net>:
> >> >has been made obsolete by the
> >> >recent rework of the interface to GUI
> >>
> >> Speaking of which: I think a bugfix release 0.52.3 should probably *not*
> >> contain the "rework of the interface to GUI", which is a rather big
> >> change...
> >>
> >
> >Why not? We're talking about things that had already been merged before,
>
> So what?
>
> i'm not really sure i understand what you mean exactly with "have been
> merged before".
> the fact that the PRs have already been merged into master?
> how is that related to "bugfix release"?
>
>
> >right? It seems to me most changes are "under the hood" and not proper new
> >features.
>
>
> And all of them include regressions.
>
>
> imho, a "bugfix release" is a promise to the user that says "nothing has
> changed with respect to the previous release, except we fixed these
> annoying bugs".
> so i worry not about "features" but about "anything not a bugfix".
>
> and with 0.52-3, plenty of things have changed (and a few annoying bugs
> have been fixed as well).
> ~70 C-files have been modified, and 3 header files have been modified
> (suggesting additions to the API)
>
> so i just fail to understand why we can't just call it "0.53-0", as this
> clearly is beyond a "bugfix" release.
>
>
> i'm probably highly influenced by semantic versioning [1], which is
> targetting versioning for libraries (API/ABI compatibility) rather than
> applications, but i think the model is so great that it can be applied
> to any software (that is not released very frequently).
>
> in any case: i'm not the one who is deciding on the versioning.
>
>
> gfmdsa
> IOhannes
>
>
> [1] https://semver.org/
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Miller Puckette via Pd-dev]

OK, I'm convinced.  Anyhow there are plenty of possible version numbers left :)

Another reason could be that I'm unable to do as much testing myself as usual.

A minor inconvenience is that the older-mac compiles will have to wait until I 
can
get back to my usual lair.

cheers
Miller

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 03:09:52PM +0200, Thomas Mayer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 15.10.22 22:00, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> > imho, a "bugfix release" is a promise to the user that says "nothing has
> > changed with respect to the previous release, except we fixed these
> > annoying bugs".
> > so i worry not about "features" but about "anything not a bugfix".
> > 
> > and with 0.52-3, plenty of things have changed (and a few annoying bugs
> > have been fixed as well).
> > ~70 C-files have been modified, and 3 header files have been modified
> > (suggesting additions to the API)
> > 
> > so i just fail to understand why we can't just call it "0.53-0", as this
> > clearly is beyond a "bugfix" release.
> 
> I fully agree with IOhannes. Someone may need a bugfix for their concert
> next week and they are positively surprised by getting this bugfix just in
> time, while being negatively surprised by the regression during their
> performance. Signalling big changes by version number is a good thing.
> 
> Not every user read the release info or changelog, as to most this is
> unintelligable gibberish (What exactly does "rework of GUI code" mean to an
> end user?)
> 
> Just my 0,02€,
> Thomas
> -- 
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> are effective. They're a kind of job insurance."
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Thomas Mayer]

Hello,

On 15.10.22 22:00, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
imho, a "bugfix release" is a promise to the user that says "nothing has 
changed with respect to the previous release, except we fixed these 
annoying bugs".

so i worry not about "features" but about "anything not a bugfix".

and with 0.52-3, plenty of things have changed (and a few annoying bugs 
have been fixed as well).
~70 C-files have been modified, and 3 header files have been modified 
(suggesting additions to the API)


so i just fail to understand why we can't just call it "0.53-0", as this 
clearly is beyond a "bugfix" release.


I fully agree with IOhannes. Someone may need a bugfix for their concert 
next week and they are positively surprised by getting this bugfix just 
in time, while being negatively surprised by the regression during their 
performance. Signalling big changes by version number is a good thing.


Not every user read the release info or changelog, as to most this is 
unintelligable gibberish (What exactly does "rework of GUI code" mean to 
an end user?)


Just my 0,02€,
Thomas
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 14. Oktober 2022 18:13:00 MESZ schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres 
:

Em sex., 14 de out. de 2022 às 12:12, IOhannes m zmölnig 
escreveu:


Am 14. Oktober 2022 15:32:42 MESZ schrieb Antoine Rousseau <
anto...@metalu.net>:
>has been made obsolete by the
>recent rework of the interface to GUI

Speaking of which: I think a bugfix release 0.52.3 should probably *not*
contain the "rework of the interface to GUI", which is a rather big
change...



Why not? We're talking about things that had already been merged before,


So what?

i'm not really sure i understand what you mean exactly with "have been 
merged before".

the fact that the PRs have already been merged into master?
how is that related to "bugfix release"?



right? It seems to me most changes are "under the hood" and not proper new
features.



And all of them include regressions.


imho, a "bugfix release" is a promise to the user that says "nothing has 
changed with respect to the previous release, except we fixed these 
annoying bugs".

so i worry not about "features" but about "anything not a bugfix".

and with 0.52-3, plenty of things have changed (and a few annoying bugs 
have been fixed as well).
~70 C-files have been modified, and 3 header files have been modified 
(suggesting additions to the API)


so i just fail to understand why we can't just call it "0.53-0", as this 
clearly is beyond a "bugfix" release.



i'm probably highly influenced by semantic versioning [1], which is 
targetting versioning for libraries (API/ABI compatibility) rather than 
applications, but i think the model is so great that it can be applied 
to any software (that is not released very frequently).


in any case: i'm not the one who is deciding on the versioning.


gfmdsa
IOhannes


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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Miller Puckette via Pd-dev]

I _think_ the deken update won't break anything (after all you don't have to 
use it to run Pd) - so I think it's worth the risk of updating it.

Also, the GUI changes would be hard to untangle from the other updates, so I
think the safer thing is to just leave them in.  As far as I can tell they're
adequately shaken down now.

Even though it's not considered correct behavior, I still find it less
problematic to fully commit to changes in the main branch than to try to
maintain long twisted chains of duplicate bugfixes in both master and in some
0.52 branch - this didn't work out so well this time around (I cornered myself
into taking the GUI updates into a minor release) but, ouch, we all just have to
deal with my 1970s-vintage coding skills :)

M

On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 05:18:58PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> Am 14. Oktober 2022 17:12:02 MESZ schrieb "IOhannes m zmölnig" 
> :
> >
> >Speaking of which: I think a bugfix release 0.52.3 should probably *not* 
> >contain the "rework of the interface to GUI", which is a rather big change...
> 
> 
> Also I see that my deken update branch has been merged, which is great. But 
> it includes mostly new features, rather than just bugfixes.
> 
> So are we aiming at 0.53.0 or at 0.52.3?
> 
> 
> mfg.sfg.jfd
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em sex., 14 de out. de 2022 às 12:12, IOhannes m zmölnig 
escreveu:

> Am 14. Oktober 2022 15:32:42 MESZ schrieb Antoine Rousseau <
> anto...@metalu.net>:
> >has been made obsolete by the
> >recent rework of the interface to GUI
>
> Speaking of which: I think a bugfix release 0.52.3 should probably *not*
> contain the "rework of the interface to GUI", which is a rather big
> change...
>

Why not? We're talking about things that had already been merged before,
right? It seems to me most changes are "under the hood" and not proper new
features. I also see that as numerous bug fixes. The only new feature is
the 'orientation' message to sliders/radio buttons. But yeah, I think I
might be missing your point/reasons to assume this should be considered a
new version instead.

cheers



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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em sex., 14 de out. de 2022 às 10:33, Antoine Rousseau 
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> note that #1635 has conflicts; I think it has been made obsolete by the
> recent rework of the interface to GUI (probably should be closed).
>

Hmm, I'll have a look, thanks


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> Le ven. 14 oct. 2022 à 06:23, Alexandre Torres Porres 
> a écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> Em qui., 13 de out. de 2022 às 23:26, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
>> pd-dev@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
>>
>>> Are there other updates that need to make
>>> their way into Pd 0.52-1?
>>>
>>
>> btw, I was checking, current version is 0.52-2, so the bugfix update
>> would be 0.52-3, right?
>>
>> cheers
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 14. Oktober 2022 17:12:02 MESZ schrieb "IOhannes m zmölnig" 
:
>
>Speaking of which: I think a bugfix release 0.52.3 should probably *not* 
>contain the "rework of the interface to GUI", which is a rather big change...


Also I see that my deken update branch has been merged, which is great. But it 
includes mostly new features, rather than just bugfixes.

So are we aiming at 0.53.0 or at 0.52.3?


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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 14. Oktober 2022 15:32:42 MESZ schrieb Antoine Rousseau :
>has been made obsolete by the
>recent rework of the interface to GUI 

Speaking of which: I think a bugfix release 0.52.3 should probably *not* 
contain the "rework of the interface to GUI", which is a rather big change...


mfg.sfg.jfd
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Antoine Rousseau]

note that #1635 has conflicts; I think it has been made obsolete by the
recent rework of the interface to GUI (probably should be closed).

Antoine



Le ven. 14 oct. 2022 à 06:23, Alexandre Torres Porres  a
écrit :

>
>
> Em qui., 13 de out. de 2022 às 23:26, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
> pd-dev@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
>
>> Are there other updates that need to make
>> their way into Pd 0.52-1?
>>
>
> btw, I was checking, current version is 0.52-2, so the bugfix update would
> be 0.52-3, right?
>
> cheers
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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em qui., 13 de out. de 2022 às 23:26, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
pd-dev@lists.iem.at> escreveu:

> Are there other updates that need to make
> their way into Pd 0.52-1?
>

btw, I was checking, current version is 0.52-2, so the bugfix update would
be 0.52-3, right?

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Re: [PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Hey, cool!

Em qui., 13 de out. de 2022 às 23:26, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
pd-dev@lists.iem.at> escreveu:

> My plan then would be to merge the latest running updates and some of
> Alexandre's documentation updates


why not all? :)


> and then release a testing version this weekend.  Are there other updates
> that need to make their way into Pd 0.52-1?  (No improvements please, just
> bug fixes :)
>

I got a couple of simple PRs labeled as bug fixes sitting there
- https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1683
- https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1618

I also see things labeled as "improvement", one is the latest deken
version, which I guess must be included
- https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1736

I also have some PRs of mine marked as improvements, and I consider this
one to be actually a bug fix
- https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1581

Although these two are also marked as improvements, they seem like no
brainers and things that could have been part of the "development" branch,
so please consider them.
- https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1635
- https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1034

Thanks!
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[PD-dev] release pd 0.52 update?

[Miller Puckette via Pd-dev]

I just realized from the list that there's a pretty serious bug that's
already fixed in git but not in Pd 0.52-0 ... I think it's worth putting
out a bugfix version.  My plan then would be to merge the latest running
updates and some of Alexandre's documentation updates and then release
a testing version this weekend.  Are there other updates that need to make
their way into Pd 0.52-1?  (No improvements please, just bug fixes :)

Miller



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