Re: [PD] GEM / pix objects : limiting colours
chris clepper wrote: On 3/11/07, *Sciss* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mac intel. however the pix_offset help file says When adding an offset to each color-channel, no clipping is done. Thus you can wrap around the color-space, so probably it behaves right, only in my case i want to prevent wrapping ... The PPC code does not wrap around since Altivec has saturating addition. Maybe MMX lacks that. I'll check when I have the time. yes i think the mmx/sse2 code does overwrap. however, i also think that there is a switch to turn that onwait...no ehm there is only a switch in the [pix_gain] object to turn this on/off: it is [saturate 1/0( though saturation is the logical usage, i would like to provide both ways, for legacy reasons and for freedom of choice. mfa.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] noisy soundcard
Hi all, I've had an annoying hum coming from my edirol FA-101 when I hook it up to PA systems and have finally figured out that it occurs only when my laptop is plugged in and not running on batteries. The FA-101 is also plugged in (boo 4-pin 1394 connections...) and then the amps I run into are also 3-pin plugs and leads me to believe that this is probably a ground loop issue. Can anyone suggest possible solutions? Is there a power bar that isolates grounds? -martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Patch Crashed Durring Development and Will Not Reopen
Chris McCormick wrote: Does anybody know of a versioning system that runs on a native PC and doesn't require a server? I think bzr might actually do this. well, the grandfather of revision control systems RCS does not need a server. RCS is the backend of CVS (which needs the server only for accessing the RCS system) it is probably not the most uptodate revision control system. mfga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] python 2.4 on OSX
Hi Marius, you could also rebuild py/pyext using flext and py from cvs. In this case using the install_name_tool could also work, which allows you to change references to dynamic libraries. greetings, Thomas Am 12.03.2007 um 05:45 schrieb marius schebella: shit, I upgraded my python version, but py seems to be hardcoded to 2.3 and does not load anymore. /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7.app/Contents/Resources/ Scripts/../extra/py.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7.app/Contents/ Resources/Scripts/../extra/py.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/Python Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7.app/Contents/Resources/ Scripts/../extra/py.pd_darwin Reason: image not found can I just make a symlink/alias to fix this??? marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM / pix objects : limiting colours
ok, but let me know if there's any kind of work around ... i guess internally everything is int8 not float32? because if float32 (-- i don't want to degrade the bit-resolution... --), i could do pix_gain 0.5 before the colourization, then afterwards a pix_gain 2.0 with saturation ... ciao, -sciss- Am 12.03.2007 um 09:00 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: chris clepper wrote: On 3/11/07, *Sciss* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mac intel. however the pix_offset help file says When adding an offset to each color-channel, no clipping is done. Thus you can wrap around the color-space, so probably it behaves right, only in my case i want to prevent wrapping ... The PPC code does not wrap around since Altivec has saturating addition. Maybe MMX lacks that. I'll check when I have the time. yes i think the mmx/sse2 code does overwrap. however, i also think that there is a switch to turn that onwait...no ehm there is only a switch in the [pix_gain] object to turn this on/off: it is [saturate 1/0( though saturation is the logical usage, i would like to provide both ways, for legacy reasons and for freedom of choice. mfa.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Patch Crashed Durring Development and Will Not Reopen
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: Does anybody know of a versioning system that runs on a native PC and doesn't require a server? I think bzr might actually do this. RCS runs about anywhere. Another popular versioning system, that is not CVS or Subversion is Darcs: http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM / pix objects : limiting colours
Sciss wrote: ok, but let me know if there's any kind of work around ... i guess internally everything is int8 not float32? because if float32 (-- i don't want to degrade the bit-resolution... --), i could do pix_gain 0.5 before the colourization, then afterwards a pix_gain 2.0 with saturation ... right, gem handles colors as 8bit integer values, so you are out of luck here. however, i just added the changes for saturated maths in [pix_offset] to the CVS, so check it out recompile and report whether it works as expected. mfga.-sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] apt get for abstractions
Hallo, adam armfield hat gesagt: // adam armfield wrote: following on from the ongoing debate about bundles for patches with many abstractions, I had the idea for an apt-get style system, where someone who wants a patch can enter a command get all necessary abstractions at the same time... cvs update? Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] oldschool rave synths
have you made a good oldschool pd synth? anything i make sounds like some roland groovebox from the 90's. anyone got any cool old rave sounds? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] oldschool rave synths
On 12/03/2007, at 11.56, hard off wrote: have you made a good oldschool pd synth? anything i make sounds like some roland groovebox from the 90's. Frank's got a 303 thingy, http://footils.org/cms/show/19 I'd be surprised if Andy doesn't have some oldtech sounding stuff about. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] oldschool rave synths
andy's tokyo techno one is cool. but i want hoovers. i keep try to make them and they always suck. there must have been a secret ingredient that i am forgetting. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] apt get for abstractions
what if you could refer to abstractions using URLs? a caching system could take care of reducing the need to be connected at all times. something like ZeroInstall for example. or perhaps using Java-style class paths, especially if URLs could be included in the class path. would this lead to very long abstraction names? we could solve this by providing an alias object, so that any abstractions mentioned in a patch that are prepended by the given alias are replaced with the alias' URL. Then the alias could be used as the base address for the abstraction names. Steve On 3/11/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this would be very useful. It should be as easy to set up as possible, some kind of minimal setup based on HTTP like basic apt-get repositories. Eclipse's repository format is worth checking out. I think we should build it in Pd for maximum portability and maintainability. Pd programmers will always be able to write in Pd. But that's not always the case for C or other programming languages. .hc On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote: Sure, But such a system should be as portable as Pd. Such a system should be in C, I guess, for maximum portability. Like APT, I find the pear package system very nice too. It would be very easy to adapt, but it is in PHP. It uses XML to store informations about the files hierarchy. Marc Lavallée told me about a simple package system that would be easy to adapt, but I forgot its name. Marc ? Such a topic might fit better in the pd-dev list. Alex 2007/3/11, adam armfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: following on from the ongoing debate about bundles for patches with many abstractions, I had the idea for an apt-get style system, where someone who wants a patch can enter a command get all necessary abstractions at the same time... ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Alexandre Quessy http://alexandre.quessy.net ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] apt get for abstractions
I haven't used Net-Pd that much, but doesn't it use a sort of system to keep patches up to date? ~Kyle On 3/12/07, Stephen Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what if you could refer to abstractions using URLs? a caching system could take care of reducing the need to be connected at all times. something like ZeroInstall for example. or perhaps using Java-style class paths, especially if URLs could be included in the class path. would this lead to very long abstraction names? we could solve this by providing an alias object, so that any abstractions mentioned in a patch that are prepended by the given alias are replaced with the alias' URL. Then the alias could be used as the base address for the abstraction names. Steve On 3/11/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this would be very useful. It should be as easy to set up as possible, some kind of minimal setup based on HTTP like basic apt-get repositories. Eclipse's repository format is worth checking out. I think we should build it in Pd for maximum portability and maintainability. Pd programmers will always be able to write in Pd. But that's not always the case for C or other programming languages. .hc On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote: Sure, But such a system should be as portable as Pd. Such a system should be in C, I guess, for maximum portability. Like APT, I find the pear package system very nice too. It would be very easy to adapt, but it is in PHP. It uses XML to store informations about the files hierarchy. Marc Lavallée told me about a simple package system that would be easy to adapt, but I forgot its name. Marc ? Such a topic might fit better in the pd-dev list. Alex 2007/3/11, adam armfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: following on from the ongoing debate about bundles for patches with many abstractions, I had the idea for an apt-get style system, where someone who wants a patch can enter a command get all necessary abstractions at the same time... ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Alexandre Quessy http://alexandre.quessy.net ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] oldschool rave synths
Dunno if you can make this into anything useful. It's very nasty. twin vari-slope triangle - chebyshev waveshaper - formant ^ | |_ FM feedback | I was trying to get something like a virus sound for a mate who is into jungle. This is the weaponised version with no anti-aliasing whatsoever (apparently that makes it sound better). Careful, it's already claimed one set of speakers. You might want to put some filters on the output to tame it a bit. But it's not classic hoover. You want lots of detuned triangles for that. Somewhere there's one called Edgar.pd I made which does that quite nicely, but just rip the dual slope triangle out of this one, dupe it a few times and give them a spread of about 3%, that's the secret ingredient. On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:34:01 +0900 hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andy's tokyo techno one is cool. but i want hoovers. i keep try to make them and they always suck. there must have been a secret ingredient that i am forgetting. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list parasite-synth.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Summer of Code orgs?
Did anyone apply to the Google Summer of Code as Pure Data? That's how most of the mentoring organizations are structured. I am currently applying as IDMI/Polytechnic, which will allow students to work on Pd projects. But it seems that it would make sense to have someone apply as Pure Data. Maybe someone from IEM did that already, or someone else? .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] noisy soundcard
hi, maybe reading this will help you finding the solution: http://www.davidemorelli.it/doku.php?id=other:ground_loops patrick ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] noisy soundcard
one solution i heard of is to use a psuedo balanced cable, a normal audio cable with a resistor soldered into one lead (iirc) all the best adam ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Summer of Code orgs?
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 12:30 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Did anyone apply to the Google Summer of Code as Pure Data? That's how most of the mentoring organizations are structured. I am currently applying as IDMI/Polytechnic, which will allow students to work on Pd projects. would that be exclusive? or would it allow students to apply for related projects? if it's open to related projects, i might apply with pnpd/nova ... tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 96771783 http://tim.klingt.org Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer. William S. Burroughs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Summer of Code orgs?
On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 12:30 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Did anyone apply to the Google Summer of Code as Pure Data? That's how most of the mentoring organizations are structured. I am currently applying as IDMI/Polytechnic, which will allow students to work on Pd projects. would that be exclusive? or would it allow students to apply for related projects? if it's open to related projects, i might apply with pnpd/nova ... It's mostly project-based, with only a few orgs like universities and companies listed. .hc tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 96771783 http://tim.klingt.org Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer. William S. Burroughs ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Summer of Code orgs?
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Did anyone apply to the Google Summer of Code as Pure Data? That's how most of the mentoring organizations are structured. I am currently applying as IDMI/Polytechnic, which will allow students to work on Pd projects. But it seems that it would make sense to have someone apply as Pure Data. Maybe someone from IEM did that already, or someone else? we did apply, but as IEM (though pointing out, that we are hosting the community portal) fmgaldr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] apt get for abstractions
On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, adam armfield hat gesagt: // adam armfield wrote: following on from the ongoing debate about bundles for patches with many abstractions, I had the idea for an apt-get style system, where someone who wants a patch can enter a command get all necessary abstractions at the same time... cvs update? Or perhaps a better, equally terse response: apt-get != cvs .hc Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] apt get for abstractions
Yeah, that code could be turned into a library then used for the versioning for this Pd apt-get. The other parts include a common library/package format (like finishing up libdir support) and a common repository format that's easy to setup. .hc On Mar 12, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: I haven't used Net-Pd that much, but doesn't it use a sort of system to keep patches up to date? ~Kyle On 3/12/07, Stephen Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what if you could refer to abstractions using URLs? a caching system could take care of reducing the need to be connected at all times. something like ZeroInstall for example. or perhaps using Java-style class paths, especially if URLs could be included in the class path. would this lead to very long abstraction names? we could solve this by providing an alias object, so that any abstractions mentioned in a patch that are prepended by the given alias are replaced with the alias' URL. Then the alias could be used as the base address for the abstraction names. Steve On 3/11/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this would be very useful. It should be as easy to set up as possible, some kind of minimal setup based on HTTP like basic apt- get repositories. Eclipse's repository format is worth checking out. I think we should build it in Pd for maximum portability and maintainability. Pd programmers will always be able to write in Pd. But that's not always the case for C or other programming languages. .hc On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote: Sure, But such a system should be as portable as Pd. Such a system should be in C, I guess, for maximum portability. Like APT, I find the pear package system very nice too. It would be very easy to adapt, but it is in PHP. It uses XML to store informations about the files hierarchy. Marc Lavallée told me about a simple package system that would be easy to adapt, but I forgot its name. Marc ? Such a topic might fit better in the pd-dev list. Alex 2007/3/11, adam armfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: following on from the ongoing debate about bundles for patches with many abstractions, I had the idea for an apt-get style system, where someone who wants a patch can enter a command get all necessary abstractions at the same time... ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Alexandre Quessy http://alexandre.quessy.net ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] noisy soundcard
Same discussion happens at Linux Audio User Mailinglist in the moment. My advice is to use balanced/ symmetrical cables if the Edirol and your mixer have balanced in- and outputs. Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] I created an ebuild for pd-0.40-p2
Grab it while its hot at: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151843 Regards, Miron ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] I created an ebuild for pd-0.40-p2
Hey, Looks good, the more the merrier :) If you are planning on maintaining that, it should be included in the CVS. If you are definitely committed to supporting Pd on Gentoo, then I can setup a Gentoo box in the auto-build farm for a nightly build on Gentoo. I haven't used Gentoo at all, so I can't be of any help to Gentoo- specific things. .hc On Mar 12, 2007, at 11:49 AM, m t wrote: Grab it while its hot at: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151843 Regards, Miron ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Berlin workshop--17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise
x workshop_7_x Berlin 17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise with Derek Holzer (http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html). Pure Data is a powerful, free and open source environment for producing and manipulating sound, image and data in real time. This hands-on workshop will concentrate on using oscillators, filters, feedback and noise to create your own self-modulating/generative sound systems. Go for that classic analog sound, do the digital clicks-n-cuts thing, or indulge in a noise orgy freakout... Since we will cover quite a bit of Pure Data and DSP (Digital Signal Processing) basics, this workshop is ideal for PD beginners as well as experienced users who want to come and make some noise together. External inputs and controllers such as MIDI keyboards/faderboxes, USB joysticks, sensors or microphones could be useful, but not required. ---What to bring: * Essential: 1) Laptop running Linux, OS X or Windows 2) Pure Data Extended installed from: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html 3) Soundcard (internal or external, quality a non-issue) 4) Headphones 5) EUR 10 participation fee * Recommended/Suggested: 1) MIDI controller/keyboard 2) Microphone 3) USB Joystick 4) Your own PD audio projects for feedback/show-and-tell ---About the Teacher Derek Holzer [USA 1972] began working with Pure Data in 2001. Since then, he has taught and performed with the program across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. His work focuses on field recording, networked collaboration strategies, experiments in improvisational sound and the use of free software such as Pure-Data. Holzer has released tracks under the Nexsound, Sirr, and/OAR and Gruenrekorder labels, and has co-initiated several internet projects for field recording and collaborative soundscapes including Soundtransit.nl. He is currently writing a beginner's manual for Pure Data. http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html http://www.umatic.nl/workshops.html Background: A weekly series of constructivist workshops emphasising making and connection within the field of the existent. Workshops led by field-expert practitioners extend over realms of code and embedded code, environmental code, noise, transmission and reception, and electromysticism. Workshops solely utilise free software and GNU toolbase. Practitioners include Julian Oliver (http://selectparks.net/), Derek Holzer (http://soundtransit.nl), Jeff Mann (http://jeffmann.com), Martin Howse (http://1010.co.uk), Fredrik Olofsson (http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/), superfactory (http://superfactory.biz) Further planned workshops will cover Pd connectivity and hardware, the Arduino platform, ATmega8 microcontrollers, UNIX process, free software documentation, VLF reception, radio antenna design, analogue TV transmission, FPGA design... full details tbc. Please RSVP [EMAIL PROTECTED] to reserve any places or register interest. Please forward. x, pickledfeet, Linienstrasse 54, Berlin 10119 U2, Rosa-Luxemburg-Pl. U8, Rosenthaler Pl. Telephone: 3050187482. http://1010.co.uk/workshop.html //- http://x.1010.co.uk http://1010.co.uk -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 115: Make a sudden, destructive unpredictable action; incorporate ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [workshop][Berlin] 17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise
x workshop_7_x Berlin 17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise with Derek Holzer (http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html). Pure Data is a powerful, free and open source environment for producing and manipulating sound, image and data in real time. This hands-on workshop will concentrate on using oscillators, filters, feedback and noise to create your own self-modulating/generative sound systems. Go for that classic analog sound, do the digital clicks-n-cuts thing, or indulge in a noise orgy freakout... Since we will cover quite a bit of Pure Data and DSP (Digital Signal Processing) basics, this workshop is ideal for PD beginners as well as experienced users who want to come and make some noise together. External inputs and controllers such as MIDI keyboards/faderboxes, USB joysticks, sensors or microphones could be useful, but not required. ---What to bring: * Essential: 1) Laptop running Linux, OS X or Windows 2) Pure Data Extended installed from: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html 3) Soundcard (internal or external, quality a non-issue) 4) Headphones 5) EUR 10 participation fee * Recommended/Suggested: 1) MIDI controller/keyboard 2) Microphone 3) USB Joystick 4) Your own PD audio projects for feedback/show-and-tell ---About the Teacher Derek Holzer [USA 1972] began working with Pure Data in 2001. Since then, he has taught and performed with the program across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. His work focuses on field recording, networked collaboration strategies, experiments in improvisational sound and the use of free software such as Pure-Data. Holzer has released tracks under the Nexsound, Sirr, and/OAR and Gruenrekorder labels, and has co-initiated several internet projects for field recording and collaborative soundscapes including Soundtransit.nl. He is currently writing a beginner's manual for Pure Data. http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html http://www.umatic.nl/workshops.html Background: A weekly series of constructivist workshops emphasising making and connection within the field of the existent. Workshops led by field-expert practitioners extend over realms of code and embedded code, environmental code, noise, transmission and reception, and electromysticism. Workshops solely utilise free software and GNU toolbase. Practitioners include Julian Oliver (http://selectparks.net/), Derek Holzer (http://soundtransit.nl), Jeff Mann (http://jeffmann.com), Martin Howse (http://1010.co.uk), Fredrik Olofsson (http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/), superfactory (http://superfactory.biz) Further planned workshops will cover Pd connectivity and hardware, the Arduino platform, ATmega8 microcontrollers, UNIX process, free software documentation, VLF reception, radio antenna design, analogue TV transmission, FPGA design... full details tbc. Please RSVP [EMAIL PROTECTED] to reserve any places or register interest. Please forward. x, pickledfeet, Linienstrasse 54, Berlin 10119 U2, Rosa-Luxemburg-Pl. U8, Rosenthaler Pl. Telephone: 3050187482. http://1010.co.uk/workshop.html //- http://x.1010.co.uk http://1010.co.uk -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 115: Make a sudden, destructive unpredictable action; incorporate ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] resoncomb~ external release
Hi all, I have just uploaded my resoncomb external (linux). http://www.forwind.net/forwind.net/software.htm http://www.forwind.net/forwind.net/software/reson_comb_release_v0.9.tar.gz Three stereo comb filters running in tandem with gain and freq exposed on each comb. Also master combs gain, pan on each comb, frequency transition slide speed and random stagger slide depth can each be controlled. Screen shot here http://www.forwind.net/forwind.net/images/stills/resoncomb_screenshot.png The input section of the gui of the external is a little crowded ! Use the example patch in the tar as a starting point. There is a bug whereby if the audio is switched off and the external is loaded on the canvas and if an input is received by the external it will cause a seg fault. short term solution - turn audio on :) Enjoy Conor ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Berlin workshop--17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise
I would love to see any example patches you are planning for this - do you have anything that sort of represents what you have in mind for the workshop? Kevin On 3/12/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: x workshop_7_x Berlin 17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise with Derek Holzer (http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html). Pure Data is a powerful, free and open source environment for producing and manipulating sound, image and data in real time. This hands-on workshop will concentrate on using oscillators, filters, feedback and noise to create your own self-modulating/generative sound systems. Go for that classic analog sound, do the digital clicks-n-cuts thing, or indulge in a noise orgy freakout... Since we will cover quite a bit of Pure Data and DSP (Digital Signal Processing) basics, this workshop is ideal for PD beginners as well as experienced users who want to come and make some noise together. External inputs and controllers such as MIDI keyboards/faderboxes, USB joysticks, sensors or microphones could be useful, but not required. ---What to bring: * Essential: 1) Laptop running Linux, OS X or Windows 2) Pure Data Extended installed from: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html 3) Soundcard (internal or external, quality a non-issue) 4) Headphones 5) EUR 10 participation fee * Recommended/Suggested: 1) MIDI controller/keyboard 2) Microphone 3) USB Joystick 4) Your own PD audio projects for feedback/show-and-tell ---About the Teacher Derek Holzer [USA 1972] began working with Pure Data in 2001. Since then, he has taught and performed with the program across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. His work focuses on field recording, networked collaboration strategies, experiments in improvisational sound and the use of free software such as Pure-Data. Holzer has released tracks under the Nexsound, Sirr, and/OAR and Gruenrekorder labels, and has co-initiated several internet projects for field recording and collaborative soundscapes including Soundtransit.nl. He is currently writing a beginner's manual for Pure Data. http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html http://www.umatic.nl/workshops.html Background: A weekly series of constructivist workshops emphasising making and connection within the field of the existent. Workshops led by field-expert practitioners extend over realms of code and embedded code, environmental code, noise, transmission and reception, and electromysticism. Workshops solely utilise free software and GNU toolbase. Practitioners include Julian Oliver (http://selectparks.net/), Derek Holzer (http://soundtransit.nl), Jeff Mann (http://jeffmann.com), Martin Howse (http://1010.co.uk), Fredrik Olofsson (http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/), superfactory (http://superfactory.biz) Further planned workshops will cover Pd connectivity and hardware, the Arduino platform, ATmega8 microcontrollers, UNIX process, free software documentation, VLF reception, radio antenna design, analogue TV transmission, FPGA design... full details tbc. Please RSVP [EMAIL PROTECTED] to reserve any places or register interest. Please forward. x, pickledfeet, Linienstrasse 54, Berlin 10119 U2, Rosa-Luxemburg-Pl. U8, Rosenthaler Pl. Telephone: 3050187482. http://1010.co.uk/workshop.html //- http://x.1010.co.uk http://1010.co.uk -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 115: Make a sudden, destructive unpredictable action; incorporate ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Berlin workshop--17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise
I'm working on them this week. I have a monster self-modulator using LADPSAs and [plugin~] which appears to be Linux-only now, so I'll take it apart a bit and use more universal (but not anti-aliased) oscillators, filters, send~/receive~, etc etc. Since there's only a day to do the workshop, I'm aiming for immediate results. So what will probably happen is that I'll have some ready-made abstractions. Those that are into it can dive into their structures, and those that are scared can (hopefully) just start patching. I'll post examples later, probably after the workshop. Flights to Berlin are still cheap, you know ;-) d. Kevin McCoy wrote: I would love to see any example patches you are planning for this - do you have anything that sort of represents what you have in mind for the workshop? Kevin On 3/12/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: x workshop_7_x Berlin 17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise with Derek Holzer (http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html). Pure Data is a powerful, free and open source environment for producing and manipulating sound, image and data in real time. This hands-on workshop will concentrate on using oscillators, filters, feedback and noise to create your own self-modulating/generative sound systems. Go for that classic analog sound, do the digital clicks-n-cuts thing, or indulge in a noise orgy freakout... Since we will cover quite a bit of Pure Data and DSP (Digital Signal Processing) basics, this workshop is ideal for PD beginners as well as experienced users who want to come and make some noise together. External inputs and controllers such as MIDI keyboards/faderboxes, USB joysticks, sensors or microphones could be useful, but not required. ---What to bring: * Essential: 1) Laptop running Linux, OS X or Windows 2) Pure Data Extended installed from: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html 3) Soundcard (internal or external, quality a non-issue) 4) Headphones 5) EUR 10 participation fee * Recommended/Suggested: 1) MIDI controller/keyboard 2) Microphone 3) USB Joystick 4) Your own PD audio projects for feedback/show-and-tell ---About the Teacher Derek Holzer [USA 1972] began working with Pure Data in 2001. Since then, he has taught and performed with the program across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. His work focuses on field recording, networked collaboration strategies, experiments in improvisational sound and the use of free software such as Pure-Data. Holzer has released tracks under the Nexsound, Sirr, and/OAR and Gruenrekorder labels, and has co-initiated several internet projects for field recording and collaborative soundscapes including Soundtransit.nl. He is currently writing a beginner's manual for Pure Data. http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html http://www.umatic.nl/workshops.html Background: A weekly series of constructivist workshops emphasising making and connection within the field of the existent. Workshops led by field-expert practitioners extend over realms of code and embedded code, environmental code, noise, transmission and reception, and electromysticism. Workshops solely utilise free software and GNU toolbase. Practitioners include Julian Oliver (http://selectparks.net/), Derek Holzer (http://soundtransit.nl), Jeff Mann (http://jeffmann.com), Martin Howse (http://1010.co.uk), Fredrik Olofsson (http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/), superfactory (http://superfactory.biz) Further planned workshops will cover Pd connectivity and hardware, the Arduino platform, ATmega8 microcontrollers, UNIX process, free software documentation, VLF reception, radio antenna design, analogue TV transmission, FPGA design... full details tbc. Please RSVP [EMAIL PROTECTED] to reserve any places or register interest. Please forward. x, pickledfeet, Linienstrasse 54, Berlin 10119 U2, Rosa-Luxemburg-Pl. U8, Rosenthaler Pl. Telephone: 3050187482. http://1010.co.uk/workshop.html //- http://x.1010.co.uk http://1010.co.uk -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 115: Make a sudden, destructive unpredictable action; incorporate ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 165: Use an old idea ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Berlin workshop--17th March: Oscillation Overthruster--Pure Data (PD) Synthesis, Feedback and Noise
Hallo, Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote: Flights to Berlin are still cheap, you know ;-) And a week later, there's the Linux Audio Conference with a log of Pd stuff again this year. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] ANN: munger1~ port (from the Percolate library)
Hi all, For impatient, download at: http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/munger1~_1.0.0.tar.gz (270KB, includes source, Linux-Pd-i386, Mac-Max-i386, and Win32-Max-i386 binaries, and 3 cases of beer) OVERVIEW munger1~ (March 12, 2007 1.0.0 release) a realtime multichannel granulator a.k.a. the swiss-army-knife of realtime granular synthesis a flext (cross-platform PD Max/MSP) port of the munger~ object from the PeRColate library (0.9 beta5) http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/ Original PeRColate library by: Dan Trueman http://www.music.princeton.edu/~dan/ R. Luke DuBois's http://www.lukedubois.com/ Flext port and additions by: Ivica Ico Bukvic http://ico.bukvic.net Ji-Sun Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.music.vt.edu http://www.cctad.vt.edu Released under GPL license (whichever is the latest version--as of this release, version 2) For more info on the GPL license please visit: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS Many thanks to Dan Trueman for open-sourcing this great object! SOURCE INSTALL == If you simply intend to use prebuilt binaries, please skip to the INSTALL section. Otherwise take a big breath and read on... 1) You need stk library which can be downloaded from: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/stk/ 2) You need to also install latest flext library (this is a library that allows for creation of externals for both Max/MSP and PD using the same source). Version 0.4.x can obtained from the following link: http://g.org/ext/flext/ Latest CVS version (0.5.1) is found in the Pure-Data CVS (this one is recommended): http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=55736 3) If you are using latest CVS version (0.5.1) Before compiling the source you will need to add the following to the top of the flext/source/flstk.h file right below the #define __FLSTK_H: #ifdef PI #undef PI #endif This step will probably become quickly obsolete once Thomas updates CVS. Until then, this is needed to be able to compile flext against stk. 4) To compile flext, read flext instructions (it boils down to running build.sh with appropriate parameters and then editing two simple config files, i.e. build pd gcc build or build max gcc or build max msvc etc.) Your will need to edit buildsys/config-platform-compiler-pdormax.txt to adjust paths to various folders. Then you will need to edit config.txt file. You do not need to include SndObj for this external but you do need stk option to be properly set. On Windows+MSVC, STK flag at the time of this release does not work, so you will have to use included testmunger1 MSVC project file and adjust path settings to compile munger1~. 5) Once stk and flext are compiled, go into munger1~ folder and type: path to flext folder/build.sh platform compiler build/clean/install NB: on Mac build/clean/install is not needed. On Windows, please use MSVC and open the testmunger1 project file in the root of the folder. 6) Once compiled, your binary will be created in a maxorpd-platform subfolder (i.e. pd-linux, or max-darwin), followed by another subfolder which reflects whether a threaded or singlethread flext was used. Inside you will find your external. INSTALL === You can either use the prebuilt externals (found in the bin/ folder) or ones built using the SOURCE INSTALL instructions above. Binaries are provided for Intel-based Macs, Win32, and Intel-based Linux OS. The included prebuilt binaries DO NOT REQUIRE you to install flext or stk as these are statically linked. 1) Copy the external in your externals folder (i.e. /usr/lib/pd/extra or C:\Program Files\Cycling '74\MaxMSP 4.6\Cycling '74\externals\, or Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/Cycling '74/externals) 2) Copy appropriate help file (found in the help/ folder) into the help folder (i.e. /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference or C:\Program Files\Cycling '74\MaxMSP 4.6\max-help, or Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/max-help) NB: Pd help file has a .pd extension, while Max/MSP help file has a .help extension. 3) Start your app (PD or Max) and create object called munger1~. Right-click (ctrl-click on Macs) and select help and this should open the help file with additional documentation. Questions? See OVERVIEW for contact and QA info. Enjoy! FAQ === The following is Ico's FAQ, so it may or may not reflect other project participants' opinions, including original author(s) of munger~, flext, etc. Q: Why porting to flext? A: Flext library (by Thomas Grill) is a layer which allows creation of externals for both Max/MSP and PD without any alterations to the code (obviously once it is adapted to use flext). While there have been a number of Max/MSP - PD external ports in the past, many of them have become outdated because such attempts required either maintaining one code full of ugly #ifdefs, or worse--maintaining two sources. Either way, what usually turned out to be the case is that original authors did not have the time, interest, or simply the software/hardware to deal with the newly generated
Re: [PD] external viewers for additional file types ?
Will take a look at the code and check for use of tk_fileChooser - may be someone has more specific info I can use. BTW, I am guessing that the particular bad behavior when clicking on a PDF file, is that there is a bug in the browser, whereby it takes the .pd of the .pdf suffix and believes it is a PD file, then tries to open it in PD. That looks at first as a hang but if I wait 2 minutes, I see a lot of binary-printed insults in the PD log area, like: . GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: using MMX optimization error: %PDF-1.3: no such object error: ?l?à?Ù\}gßf??Õ\}???ûýòÇæÃõ]vê?dEÆÓB: no such object . etc ad-infinitum (well, not really infinitum: a few thousand lines like that). From: carmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] external viewers for additional file types ? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:48:51 -0400 Is there a way to define external viewers for files, e.g. a list of the kind: pdf/usr/bin/acroread text /usr/bin/gvim mov /usr/bin/xine txt internal [mM]akefile internal TODO internal Get the drift?. If there isn't such capability theres something like this for gnome, where if you run 'gnome-remote /path/to/some.pdf' it will launch evince. osux has something similar, called 'open' i think. on windows, im not sure what you do, maybe 'exec explorer.exe filename'.. im pretty sure pd just uses the tk_fileChooser so youre going to have to figure out how to override its default somehow.. maybe check the tk docs? and check pd.tk. its surely no more than a few lines to do what you want, on all the platforms.. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] external viewers for additional file types ?
ok. it doesnt use tk_fileChooser, but the code is in u_main.tk. The function menu_doc_open does some minimal parsing and invokes one of just 3 handlers. I will think some more how to handle this. Also, my observation of incorrect parsing of the .pdf suffix is not what is happening, but rather that as-is, the code will open with pd anything that is not .txt .c or .html. Probably the easiest would be to launch an external script that incorporates the added viewer table lookup or something like that. Or add the table lookup right into u_main.tk. I don't know much Tcl/Tk so ... will see. Will get to it sometime soon. Thanks! -Peter From: Pete Redest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] external viewers for additional file types ? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:19:48 + Will take a look at the code and check for use of tk_fileChooser - may be someone has more specific info I can use. BTW, I am guessing that the particular bad behavior when clicking on a PDF file, is that there is a bug in the browser, whereby it takes the .pd of the .pdf suffix and believes it is a PD file, then tries to open it in PD. That looks at first as a hang but if I wait 2 minutes, I see a lot of binary-printed insults in the PD log area, like: . GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: using MMX optimization error: %PDF-1.3: no such object error: ?l?à?Ù\}gßf??Õ\}???ûýòÇæÃõ]vê?dEÆÓB: no such object . etc ad-infinitum (well, not really infinitum: a few thousand lines like that). From: carmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] external viewers for additional file types ? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:48:51 -0400 Is there a way to define external viewers for files, e.g. a list of the kind: pdf/usr/bin/acroread text /usr/bin/gvim mov /usr/bin/xine txt internal [mM]akefile internal TODO internal Get the drift?. If there isn't such capability theres something like this for gnome, where if you run 'gnome-remote /path/to/some.pdf' it will launch evince. osux has something similar, called 'open' i think. on windows, im not sure what you do, maybe 'exec explorer.exe filename'.. im pretty sure pd just uses the tk_fileChooser so youre going to have to figure out how to override its default somehow.. maybe check the tk docs? and check pd.tk. its surely no more than a few lines to do what you want, on all the platforms.. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102tcode=T001MSN20A0701 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Packing pointers into lists
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 10:24:23PM -0400, Alexandre Quessy wrote: BTW Chris, you can also use iem_anything to store and repeat *gem lists. Sure, but that defeats the purpose of making an external-free [repeat]. Best Chris. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
