Re: [PD] How to cite PD in an academic paper?
Hallo, B. Bogart hat gesagt: // B. Bogart wrote: Is there a specific way to cite Pure-Data in an academic paper? R outputs a bibtex entry when you call cite(). Is there some standard for PD? Also check your spelling: In an academic paper Pd should be spelled as Miller spells it in his papers since 1996, which is Pd and Pure Data, and only using pd when talking abouut the executable binary itself. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] phantom speakers in iem_ambi
Hello, could anybody explain to me, which criteria apply for the setting of phantom speakers? Or point me to some more detailed information? Thanks a lot, cheers, Michael Michael Iber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Problem in os x 10.5.1?
On 18 Jan 2008, at 17:55, Miller Puckette wrote: ouch. The offending code is probably between the fork and exec in t_tkcmd.c (circa line 423). The only function call between them is a sprintf, wouldn't you know. Perhaps it will fix the problem if I do the sprintf before forking? I don't have 10.5.1 to test this on, so if it's easy for you to try that, I'd be grateful. Moving this thread to pd-dev, as I guess it belongs there. David cheers Miller On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:28:20PM +, David Plans Casal wrote: Hey Has anyone noticed yet that trying to build CVS version on 10.5.1 and running gives: 18/01/2008 11:23:23 [0x0-0x96096].org.puredata[17406] The process has forked and you cannot use this CoreFoundation functionality safely. You MUST exec(). 18/01/2008 11:23:23 [0x0-0x96096].org.puredata[17406] Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__ () to debug. Then pd crashes after about 5 minutes. Actually, pd-extended seems to crash also, as well as Miller releases (stable and test). Anyone else? David ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] bringing the GEM fullscreen window to front in Windows: issue (a second gem window appears)
Hi, I am working on a performance in which one of the visual projections (i.e. one of the computers) works like this: The performance has several scenes or parts; in some of the parts the graphics are made in Flash and run in a standalone Flash Players; in other parts they are made in GEM; both run on the same computer and are shown in the same projection: in any given part you see either GEM or Flash graphics. In order to gracefully switch between the two platforms, we do like this: Both the Flash Player and GEM run at fullscreen. When one of them is active, i.e. doing interesting things, the other one is idle that is is displaying a black screen. A third application, which I will call the switcher, which I didn't write, uses Windows' API to bring to front in each scene the application that needs to be seen: either GEM of Flash. Everything works fine and we've performed live more than once without problems. But there is an annoying issue, especially in rehearsals, that i'd like to know if I can work around. When we end a rehearsal and want to start over again we do like this: I close the GEM window by sending a [destroy( message to [gemwin] I close the switcher application. I close the flash player I restart the flash player I recreate the GEM window by sending a [create( message to [gemwin] I start the switcher application. Now the problem is that, as soon as the switcher tries to bring GEM to front, a second GEM window appear, so I get two gem windows none of which is rendering. There's no way to close them both, as a [destroy( message will only destroy one of them, and any further [destroy( message won't destroy the second gem window. The only way to restore normal functioning is to quit and restart PD. I don't know if this is relevant, but there is another instance of PD running in the same machine: this one DOESN'T load GEM and runs in -nogui mode in a msdos window (it runs a simple patch that receives udp packets and convert them in midi messages sent to a midiyoke port and viceversa). Thought I am not sure, I got the impression that just restarting the PD/GEM is not sufficient to avoid the problem: it seems that I have to restart both PD instances, even the one that does not even load gem (let alone create a gemwin). Is it possible? Now, I am a C++ analphabet (almost), but I'll try to give as much information as I can about the way the switcher works. It uses the method: HWND hAppHwnd = ::FindWindow(NULL, _T(GEM)); and then: ::SetWindowPos(hAppHwnd, HWND_TOPMOST, 0, 0, 0, 0, SWP_SHOWWINDOW | SWP_NOMOVE | SWP_NOSIZE); The person who wrote the switcher assured me that the two calls are done each time GEM needs to be brought to front, i.e. it DOESN'T create the hAppHwnd handler at the beginning and then reuse the same handler each time: it gets the handler from scratch each time. Note: the switcher NEVER closes nor tries to close the GEM window: I always destroy and create it with [create( and [destroy( messages to [gemwin] Also, I run the switcher after creating the gem window and close it before destroying the GEM window, so he is never trying to bring to front the GEM window when it doesn't exist. ... any clue? Or if not, what circumstances in general may cause a second spurious gem window to be created? Thanks in advance m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Mac OS X Intel autobuilds
Awesome, thanks for the info. I'll take a look at it this weekend. Should I forward any subsequent issues on this topic (ie: Pd on 10.5 and universal binaries) to the pd-dev list, or this one? I'll let you all know when I have the builds going. Cheers, ~Brandon On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Cool. It's not too hard to setup, here's how. First use rsync to get the code: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource Then install all the dependencies: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/darwin Then add the script to a cron job so it runs automatically: pure-data/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh Universal builds for Pd-extended won't work, but it wouldn't be too hard to get working, and very much a worthwhile project. .hc On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:11 PM, bsoisoi wrote: I have a 1.5ghz powerbook G4 with 2gb of RAM that is acting as a server for me right now. It is running 10.5.1, and I'm pretty sure powerpc macs can build Universal Binary / Intel binaries. If someone can figure that out (or help me figure it out) I can donate dedicated CPU time on this machine for nightly Pd-extended PPC/Intel autobuilds. Let me know, ~Brandon On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't think anyone has done a 10.5 build or a universal build yet. If someone wants to tackle that, then we can just have universal builds every night on whatever machine AFAIK. .hc On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:28 PM, vade wrote: What machine is it hans/marius? Perhaps we can set aside an intel box for um, us researchers and we can leave it on :) Since I am probably around more than Hans is I can check on it periodically. I believe PPC systems can compile intel builds, with 10.5, no (im not positive but I think you can target them??)? If so, we may have a spare machine for this at Poly we can put in the research area that no one will mess with... On Jan 20, 2008, at 10:20 PM, marius schebella wrote: jan 17 has one. the reason why the machine is down isvery trivial. the autobuild process was set up on a school machine which is in daily use by students and good students turn off the machine during night. Afaik the machines got totally reset for the beginning of the new semester (starting with jan22). don't know if it will be up again. hans? marius. bsoisoi wrote: Hello everyone, Is there a reason there hasn't been an autobuild for Mac OS X x86 since around 2007-12-07? Do we know when we can expect the Intel builds to resume? Thanks, ~Brandon ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list kill your television ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdpedia spam
I just discovered the protect tab, it allows you to restrict editing per-page. Since the spam so far has only been on a few pages, I tried turning on the protect mode to see if that is a manageable solution. .hc On Jan 24, 2008, at 8:56 AM, marius schebella wrote: hans, no offense, but we agreed on this already a very long time ago. nevertheless you still decided to go with an open version, now it got spammed. not so many people are making changes at the moment, so please turn anonymous editing off. at least for the standard wiki pages that get the spam. marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: hey, (pdpedia is back and should be stable again) I just checked out Pdpedia, it's getting quite a bit of spam. Shall we close anonymous edits? Anyone have a better idea? .hc - --- The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd?
I and a few other media artists use the elmo PTC100, its cheaper than the canon's I was looking at the time. With Canon you had to agree to a licence to even get the protocol, elmo just leaves it out there. They are a pretty good company also (meaning they have not pissed me off like others). You can't do a slow pan with these cameras (despite the protocol sheet). They also say the life is about 10,000 movements, but I've done probably a 1,000,000 and still going strong. I have an abstraction in the CVS for controlling it (uses comport and py to do the parsing/communications) Works with the USB-rs232 adapter I used. If you end up getting the Sony it would be great to add an object to the ptz-camera collection. The infrastructure is there to give any command, and get back messages from any of 4 in a daisy chain, just not ll the details are implemented. anyhow just letting you know. B. Martin Peach wrote: chris clepper wrote: I'm looking at the specs for a Sony PTZ cam which uses Sony's ViSCA protocol. The manual gives the commands for communicating with the cam, but I'm not sure if it would work with an existing Pd external or not. The control machine will be running OSX so a USB-RS232 adapter would figure into the equation. I know very little about serial port programming and need a little help determining if the cam is an option or not. Cam manual (pp 19-37): http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdf I've worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232 serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing incoming messages. Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd?
chris clepper wrote: I'm looking at the specs for a Sony PTZ cam which uses Sony's ViSCA protocol. The manual gives the commands for communicating with the cam, but I'm not sure if it would work with an existing Pd external or not. The control machine will be running OSX so a USB-RS232 adapter would figure into the equation. I know very little about serial port programming and need a little help determining if the cam is an option or not. Cam manual (pp 19-37): http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdf I've worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232 serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing incoming messages. Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bringing the GEM fullscreen window to front in Windows: issue (a second gem window appears)
Hi Cyrille, thanks for your help. you're using windows? Yep. have you try the [topmost $1 message to the gemwin? ($1 = 0 or 1) if it work, then it's probably easier than an external switcher I didn't know about the topmost message! However, I'm afraid I still need the switcher. Turning GEM's topmost on and off would be weaker, i.e. I would need to ensure that just behind GEM is the Flash Player; with the switcher, I always bring to front the needed application no matter who was on front before; it is more reliable and more inmediate to launch everything (without having to click on windows in a certain order to make sure they are where they need to be) anyway, what's happen if you don't close the gemwin? you can close / reload your patch, but having the gemwin in an other patch so you don't have to close it. The fact is that I don't need to reload the patch while I DO really need to close the GEM window (i.e. destroy the gemwin) between one rehearsal and another. Consider that the GEM window is fullscreen, so I can't move it; also, if it was the last one to be brought to front before the switcher was closed, the GEM window remains permanently topmost, i.e. always on front: unless I close it I can't see anything else (e.g. the patch gui window, the windows desktop, etc.). When I stop a rehearsal and start a new one I tipically need to check out things on the patch GUI, and/or browse Windows folder and edit text files that are later read by the patch. That's why I stop the rehearsal at all: otherwise I would simply go to the beginning of the performance (or to whichever part) which I can do without restarting things at all. I have oversimplified my setup in the description, in order not to bother people with irrelevant details, but the switcher is indeed an application that is doing other things as well; there are other computers with other projections and with audio; and whenever I have to restart the central master computer that controls the whole system (which is not the computer we were talking about), I have to restart the switcher and the flash player. In such situations, I don't mind closing and reopening the GEM window (which I usually need as I mentioned in order to see and access other things) but I wouldn't need to restart/reload the patch and GEM, were it not for this double-gem-window issue. So I'd like to avoid having to restart gem, in order to reduce the number of operations needed to restart the system to a minimum (switcher and flash player automatically quit when the master quits, for example). That's why I'm trying to figure out what's the reason of this double-gem-window weirdness, in case there's a solution. Thanks again m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bringing the GEM fullscreen window to front in Windows: issue (a second gem window appears)
hello, you're using windows? have you try the [topmost $1 message to the gemwin? ($1 = 0 or 1) if it work, then it's probably easier than an external switcher anyway, what's happen if you don't close the gemwin? you can close / reload your patch, but having the gemwin in an other patch so you don't have to close it. cyrille matteo sisti sette a écrit : Hi, I am working on a performance in which one of the visual projections (i.e. one of the computers) works like this: The performance has several scenes or parts; in some of the parts the graphics are made in Flash and run in a standalone Flash Players; in other parts they are made in GEM; both run on the same computer and are shown in the same projection: in any given part you see either GEM or Flash graphics. In order to gracefully switch between the two platforms, we do like this: Both the Flash Player and GEM run at fullscreen. When one of them is active, i.e. doing interesting things, the other one is idle that is is displaying a black screen. A third application, which I will call the switcher, which I didn't write, uses Windows' API to bring to front in each scene the application that needs to be seen: either GEM of Flash. Everything works fine and we've performed live more than once without problems. But there is an annoying issue, especially in rehearsals, that i'd like to know if I can work around. When we end a rehearsal and want to start over again we do like this: I close the GEM window by sending a [destroy( message to [gemwin] I close the switcher application. I close the flash player I restart the flash player I recreate the GEM window by sending a [create( message to [gemwin] I start the switcher application. Now the problem is that, as soon as the switcher tries to bring GEM to front, a second GEM window appear, so I get two gem windows none of which is rendering. There's no way to close them both, as a [destroy( message will only destroy one of them, and any further [destroy( message won't destroy the second gem window. The only way to restore normal functioning is to quit and restart PD. I don't know if this is relevant, but there is another instance of PD running in the same machine: this one DOESN'T load GEM and runs in -nogui mode in a msdos window (it runs a simple patch that receives udp packets and convert them in midi messages sent to a midiyoke port and viceversa). Thought I am not sure, I got the impression that just restarting the PD/GEM is not sufficient to avoid the problem: it seems that I have to restart both PD instances, even the one that does not even load gem (let alone create a gemwin). Is it possible? Now, I am a C++ analphabet (almost), but I'll try to give as much information as I can about the way the switcher works. It uses the method: HWND hAppHwnd = ::FindWindow(NULL, _T(GEM)); and then: ::SetWindowPos(hAppHwnd, HWND_TOPMOST, 0, 0, 0, 0, SWP_SHOWWINDOW | SWP_NOMOVE | SWP_NOSIZE); The person who wrote the switcher assured me that the two calls are done each time GEM needs to be brought to front, i.e. it DOESN'T create the hAppHwnd handler at the beginning and then reuse the same handler each time: it gets the handler from scratch each time. Note: the switcher NEVER closes nor tries to close the GEM window: I always destroy and create it with [create( and [destroy( messages to [gemwin] Also, I run the switcher after creating the gem window and close it before destroying the GEM window, so he is never trying to bring to front the GEM window when it doesn't exist. ... any clue? Or if not, what circumstances in general may cause a second spurious gem window to be created? Thanks in advance m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Mac OS X Intel autobuilds
Cool. It's not too hard to setup, here's how. First use rsync to get the code: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource Then install all the dependencies: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/darwin Then add the script to a cron job so it runs automatically: pure-data/scripts/auto-build/pd-extended-auto-builder.sh Universal builds for Pd-extended won't work, but it wouldn't be too hard to get working, and very much a worthwhile project. .hc On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:11 PM, bsoisoi wrote: I have a 1.5ghz powerbook G4 with 2gb of RAM that is acting as a server for me right now. It is running 10.5.1, and I'm pretty sure powerpc macs can build Universal Binary / Intel binaries. If someone can figure that out (or help me figure it out) I can donate dedicated CPU time on this machine for nightly Pd-extended PPC/Intel autobuilds. Let me know, ~Brandon On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't think anyone has done a 10.5 build or a universal build yet. If someone wants to tackle that, then we can just have universal builds every night on whatever machine AFAIK. .hc On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:28 PM, vade wrote: What machine is it hans/marius? Perhaps we can set aside an intel box for um, us researchers and we can leave it on :) Since I am probably around more than Hans is I can check on it periodically. I believe PPC systems can compile intel builds, with 10.5, no (im not positive but I think you can target them??)? If so, we may have a spare machine for this at Poly we can put in the research area that no one will mess with... On Jan 20, 2008, at 10:20 PM, marius schebella wrote: jan 17 has one. the reason why the machine is down isvery trivial. the autobuild process was set up on a school machine which is in daily use by students and good students turn off the machine during night. Afaik the machines got totally reset for the beginning of the new semester (starting with jan22). don't know if it will be up again. hans? marius. bsoisoi wrote: Hello everyone, Is there a reason there hasn't been an autobuild for Mac OS X x86 since around 2007-12-07? Do we know when we can expect the Intel builds to resume? Thanks, ~Brandon ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list kill your television ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Mac OS X Intel autobuilds
I have a 1.5ghz powerbook G4 with 2gb of RAM that is acting as a server for me right now. It is running 10.5.1, and I'm pretty sure powerpc macs can build Universal Binary / Intel binaries. If someone can figure that out (or help me figure it out) I can donate dedicated CPU time on this machine for nightly Pd-extended PPC/Intel autobuilds. Let me know, ~Brandon On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't think anyone has done a 10.5 build or a universal build yet. If someone wants to tackle that, then we can just have universal builds every night on whatever machine AFAIK. .hc On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:28 PM, vade wrote: What machine is it hans/marius? Perhaps we can set aside an intel box for um, us researchers and we can leave it on :) Since I am probably around more than Hans is I can check on it periodically. I believe PPC systems can compile intel builds, with 10.5, no (im not positive but I think you can target them??)? If so, we may have a spare machine for this at Poly we can put in the research area that no one will mess with... On Jan 20, 2008, at 10:20 PM, marius schebella wrote: jan 17 has one. the reason why the machine is down isvery trivial. the autobuild process was set up on a school machine which is in daily use by students and good students turn off the machine during night. Afaik the machines got totally reset for the beginning of the new semester (starting with jan22). don't know if it will be up again. hans? marius. bsoisoi wrote: Hello everyone, Is there a reason there hasn't been an autobuild for Mac OS X x86 since around 2007-12-07? Do we know when we can expect the Intel builds to resume? Thanks, ~Brandon ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdpedia instability
Hey, I think things have stabilized with the server setup where pdpedia is hosted. Please let me know if it isn't working for you. .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd?
chris clepper wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdfI've worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232 serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing incoming messages. Good to know it is possible. What incoming messages need to be handled? I was thinking that Pd would just send messages to move the cam around and not really need to know if the they are successful or not. You don't need to listen to it unless you want to know what state it is in before you start, and when it's completed the commands you sent. If you just send it a reset at the beginning and allow enough time for the commands to execute, it should be OK. Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] visca camera control in pd?
PDPeople, I'm looking at the specs for a Sony PTZ cam which uses Sony's ViSCA protocol. The manual gives the commands for communicating with the cam, but I'm not sure if it would work with an existing Pd external or not. The control machine will be running OSX so a USB-RS232 adapter would figure into the equation. I know very little about serial port programming and need a little help determining if the cam is an option or not. Cam manual (pp 19-37): http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdf There is also an open source libVISCA for dealing with this, but I would rather make abstractions around existing externals than code up a new one. Thanks Chris ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] FYI: autobuild servers apt-get upgraded
Just an FYI, I apt-get upgraded these autobuild servers: debian-stable-i386 debian-testing-i386 ubuntu-dapper-i386 ubuntu-gutsy-i386 .hc Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] problems loading GEM libraries
hello folks, I installed gem libraries from apt and i followed all instructions to make PureData load theese libraries but pd doesn't load anything... this is the command I give on Bash pd -lib /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux and this is the message from puredata /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux: can't load library Please Help me... thank you Fabio mbutUbuntu Buda ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problems loading GEM libraries
Fabio Buda [mbutUbuntu] wrote: hello folks, I installed gem libraries from apt and i followed all instructions to make PureData load theese libraries but pd doesn't load anything... this is the command I give on Bash pd -lib /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux and this is the message from puredata /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux: can't load library Please Help me... quoting GEM.README: - 'you could just try pd -lib Gem' - 'NOTE: there *must not* be any file extension with the -lib-flag: pd -lib Gem.dll will miserably fail' quoting README.linux - To test Gem (you need to have pd installed): # pd -lib Gem so you see: skip the extension (in your case: .pd_linux) fgmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd?
On Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdfI've worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232 serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing incoming messages. Good to know it is possible. What incoming messages need to be handled? I was thinking that Pd would just send messages to move the cam around and not really need to know if the they are successful or not. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd?
On Jan 25, 2008 12:13 PM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I and a few other media artists use the elmo PTC100, its cheaper than the canon's I was looking at the time. The Sony is HD with a handy HD-SDI connector for long cable runs. I don't particularly like Sony or their products, but this seems to be the only option in the prices range (JVC and Panny have some that are up to 10x the cost). I have an abstraction in the CVS for controlling it (uses comport and py to do the parsing/communications) Works with the USB-rs232 adapter I used. If you end up getting the Sony it would be great to add an object to the ptz-camera collection. The infrastructure is there to give any command, and get back messages from any of 4 in a daisy chain, just not ll the details are implemented. I would like to just make some abstractions for the control. I will take a look at your abstraction. Thanks Chris ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended installers server seems to be down
It would be great if someone made good Debian/Ubuntu packages. I haven't figured out a way to manage the different packages for all of the different versions of Debian and Ubuntu. Currently, the package dependencies are for Debian/stable, hence the problem you mention. .hc On Jan 4, 2008, at 1:22 PM, glerm soares wrote: The latest version from autobuild for Ubuntu Gutsy worked, but I had to force the package to not search the packages libflac7 and libquicktime0 deleting them from /var/lib/dpkg/status reference. The build was 0.41 gutsy from 03-january-2007 . any better solution to that? I'm used to compile things from cvs, but wanted to test the default pd-extended package installation. Some objects seems not to load. I'll report this better as soon I get to my computer (I'm in other machine for now). I saw an old thread (Nov 2007) about this same issue. Does anybody else still concerned about it? thanx a lot glerm 2008/1/3, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want the stable releases, go here: http://puredata.info/downloads If you want nightly builds, look further down that page. .hc On Jan 2, 2008, at 8:37 AM, glerm soares wrote: The server at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html seems to be down since yesterday. Does anybody has the most recent .deb pd-extended packages for debian/ubuntu x86? Could send me this file through pvt email or pass me another link for this? Thanks a Lot glerm ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- kill your television If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to cite PD in an academic paper?
I generally use what I think the reader would be most interested in. If there is something in the icmc96.ps paper that is related, I would include that, otherwise, I use a misc entry with the http:// puredata.info URL. .hc On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Andy Farnell wrote: Use the @MISC bibtex entry author: Puckette et al date: 1996 or you may prefer to cite this as a pointer http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/icmc96.ps See for constructing MISC bibtex fields http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~jacobsd/bib/formats/bibtex.html On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:43:43 -0800 B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Is there a specific way to cite Pure-Data in an academic paper? R outputs a bibtex entry when you call cite(). Is there some standard for PD? OT: How is software generally cited? Thanks, .b. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] visca camera control in pd?
The elmo just says Ack, ERR or Complete but since multiple cameras can be diasychained then it gets more complex, which camera threw which error. Another thing to look into is the pan/tilt heads, I was looking at these as they are much more flexible, you can put any camera on em, but I did not look very far. (zoom is obviously trouble) have fun! .b. chris clepper wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/evihd1_tm.pdfI've worked with a VISCA cam a few years ago. It just uses 9600 baud RS232 serial, so [comport] can handle it. The harder part is parsing incoming messages. Good to know it is possible. What incoming messages need to be handled? I was thinking that Pd would just send messages to move the cam around and not really need to know if the they are successful or not. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
