Re: [PD] understanding vline~
marius schebella wrote: yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for version 0.33): The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.) fgmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext paths, libs and help
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 21:57 -0500, marius schebella wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 12:09 -0500, marius schebella wrote: declare -path oscx is also doing nothing. oh, wait! as written in the declare-help.pd, -path is relative to pd, so you have to use: [declare -path oscx] (assuming the folder is pd-path/extra/oscx) roman but that is exaclty what I used! (see 2 lines above...) something is broken with declare. (see mails before). hans, would it be a problem to add all the missing paths to the configuration file of pdxt? adding all these external libraries but not supporting them seems weird. marius. argh.. sorry for the confusion.. i wanted to type: [declare -path extra/oscx] that is what actually is written in the helpfile. anyway, have a look at it. roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A couple new list-abs
O, forgot to mention, list-sample uses [urn] but I figured you could replace it with [urne]. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Luke Iannini (pd) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's another quick pair, again inspired by Python libraries (sorry, Python just seems to love lists as much as Pd .39+ and I do), this time the random module. [list-sample n] grabs a random bunch of n unique items from the incoming list and outputs them as a new list. list-shuffle is a shortcut to [list-sample]ing the same number of items as were in the list originally, which results in a shuffled list. Cheers Luke ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Add Path problems
Second question:I think it's possible to load a path with a message in a patch but also don't know how to do it! [declare] (part of pd) [import] (part of hcs) I think that [declare] came with pd-0.4 so it won't work for Delphine as she has pd-0.39 (until the tomorrow-windows-build ? =) [import] should work fine though. You also have the other trick i.e. put your folder name in object name (when folder is already in your pd path): [rradical/rrad.filt~]. This can be boring... or handy (when sharing a patch with subfolders). HTH _yvan ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A couple new list-abs
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice one. (RTC-lib has some similar ones like [make-scale] and [make-trans-scale], but I guess, range is a good name.) I'll include it if you don't mind, though I'll remove the pddplink. All [list]-abs including help files have to work with pd-vanilla withour error messages. Yes, you are of course welcome to include it (and oops, forgot pddplink was an external). If you want, you can just svn mv it from my dir to the list-abs home (that would preserve its history in SVN). Regrettably[2] list-zip requires [initbang] for its dynamic inlet creation, but list-range is a purely vanilla affair, requiring only the existing list-abs from Frank's library. This is probably better kept out of [list]-abs as it uses a non-vanilla object but also because I'm very cautious about dynamic patching and [namecanvase]. I'd rather not use these in the library. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ I figured as much regarding initbang (though I still think it should be a part of vanilla anyway), but what are your suspicions about dynamic patching/namecanvas? Or perhaps, what would you prefer as a solution? Anyhow, no worries, it will have a safe and happy home in senderfruit/core (or maybe senderfruit/list-abs-too-hot-for-tv). Cheers Luke ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: the message in the help patch should go to 1 over a duration of one second, then jump to zero after one second and then ramp up again starting after 1 second (counting from the time when you clicked). Note that if [vline~] already is at 1 when you clicked the message box a second time, you may not see the first rise to 1. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A couple new list-abs
Hallo, Luke Iannini (pd) hat gesagt: // Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Here's another quick pair, again inspired by Python libraries (sorry, Python just seems to love lists as much as Pd .39+ and I do), this time the random module. [list-sample n] grabs a random bunch of n unique items from the incoming list and outputs them as a new list. list-shuffle is a shortcut to [list-sample]ing the same number of items as were in the list originally, which results in a shuffled list. Careful here: [list length] behaves differently in 0.39 and 0.40+! Better use [list-len], which is the consistent. Similar caution is necessary when using [urn], which also has two incompatible implementations. You may want to use urne.pd from RTC-lib, but then RTC-lib already includes a kind of list-shuffle/list-sample called scramble.pd [scramble] | [list split N] looks as if it is the same as [list-sample N]. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
Marius wrote: the message in the help patch should go to 1 over a duration of one second, then jump to zero after one second and then ramp up again starting after 1 second (counting from the time when you clicked). Which means: go to 1 over a duration of one second, then immediately (after that) jump to zero, then immediately (after that) ramp up again over a duration of a second: i.e., two consecutive ramps, sawtooth-like, in a total time of 2 seconds. UNLESS _before that_ you have clicked some other message and the vline~ has an initial value of 1, in which case you won't notice the first ramp (because it is a ramp from 1 to 1) which _may_ be what confused the author of this thread. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdlua binaries for windows??
Hi, Are there any downloadable precompiled binaries of pdlua for Windows?? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino and the AD5206 digital potentiometer
Thanks Hans, here attached is another copy of the edited Firmata with some added comments to the code so things dont' get too mixed up. Whilst the additions are specifically for the AD5206 digital potentiometer, it should be possible to make a sort of generic SPI object in PD that you use when needed and otherwise disable to free up the Arduino pins 10-13. which would otherwise be a pain as Martin Peach so rightly points out. So far as constructing PD messages are concerned I'd be really grateful for any help you could give in that direction. The message needs to be a 2 byte variety does it not ? just like a DMX message...channel blah to level blah. But I suppose it is a bit more complicated than that to actually make it happen. Nick. _ From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2008 21:12 To: nick burge Cc: Pd List Subject: Re: [PD] Pduino and the AD5206 digital potentiometer Nice work! I imagine that it must be possible to have the SPI-specific messages sent via Firmata. I don't have a clear picture of what all is needed. But if there are specific message types needed, then there is plenty of room in the protocol to add SPI messages. For example, we just added Servo messages in an alpha version. .hc On Mar 5, 2008, at 1:08 PM, nick burge wrote: With some trial and error I've managed to edit the firmata firmware to control the chip as attached here. On Arduino you can only use digital pins 10,11,12 and 13 for SPI... slave select, data out, data in and spiclock. Since Firmata uses pin 13 to flash its version number there was a bit of jostling to sort out, removing that command from the void setup section, because otherwise it continues to print the version number constantly when you go into the loop. So now I have the AD5206 tutorial patch running within Firmata, which is fun. It would be more fun and potentially creative however to have the commands sent by PD...is that very difficult to do? Any clues anybody? Nick _ From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2008 16:50 To: nick burge Cc: Pd List Subject: Re: [PD] Pduino and the AD5206 digital potentiometer I am unlikely to write software for that chip unless I have a use for it. But a firmware supporting it sounds useful. Firmata is an Arduino library, so the easiest route would probably make a dedicated firmware for that chip then use the Firmata to handle the communications. .hc On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:43 AM, nick burge wrote: I got my AD206 chip as a free sample from analog devices http://www.analog.com/commerce/index.html It would be great to have support within Firmata for SPI - (serial peripheral interface) allowing control over this digital potentiometer or other devices and sensors that work with that protocol when connected to an arduino. Could it possibly work to simply copy sections of the code from the arduino tutorial into the firmata firmware , first the definitions, then the void setup section and then the write_pot(0,0) command to control the device into the loop section.? As you can tell I have little idea how to do this. Nick. _ From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2008 14:39 To: nick burge Cc: 'Pd List' Subject: Re: [PD] Pduino and the AD5206 digital potentiometer It would be possible to add support to Firmata for this, but it's not currently there. I don't have any of these chips, any volunteers? Patches welcome :D .hc On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:54 AM, nick burge wrote: Dear PD list. I would like to be able to control the AD5206 chip (a 6 channel digital potentiometer) from within the Pduino object written by Hans-Christoph Steiner. The idea comes from one of the tutorial exercises in the C++ arduino program. http://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/SPIDigitalPot Is this relatively simple to do, or simply impossible? The aim in the long run is to be able to be able to calibrate 6 force sensors remotely using the digital potentiometers for an art installation project. I have got the above mentioned tutorial project up and running succesfully using the arduino program, and I am also able to get Pduino communicating with the arduino quite happily on my Windows Vista system, but I would imagine to have control over the the digital potentiometer device from within PD would require a revision to the Firmata firmware would it not? I would be most grateful for a clue. thank you for your attention, sincerely, Nick Burge. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
sorry, I was blind and now I see. I should not post mails so late. marius. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: marius schebella wrote: yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for version 0.33): The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.) fgmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Lua and PD
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: me too, really excited to see lua signal processing in pd. since graham wakefield is involved I guess it will be similar to the max version? Yes, it's practically the same objectclass. For now it's called [vessel~] instead of [lua~] but that might change. are you planning a native texteditor support from within pd. I saw texteditors that pop up when you double cklick an object for example for the cyclone coll object. something like this (... syntax highlighting???). I won't do this: The tk-editor is not very usable and other editor widgets would add dependencies I'd like to avoid. Most people will want to use their favourite editor anyway. Maybe it's possible to use os.execute() in scripts on your own to start an editor, but it also may introduce platform issues. auto updating of scripts when they are changed and saved would be nice, too. That could be useful, but it's not high on my todo list for now. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] R: working windows builds...
/20080306/434d182e/a ttachment-0001.htm -- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:16:18 -0500 From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] understanding vline~ To: naysayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Pd-List \(E-mail\) pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. the first number is the value that you want to go to. the second value is the duration it takes to go to that value and the third nmber is the time when to start with the action. 99 1000 5000 means go to 99 in 1000ms but wait for 5000 ms before you start. the problem is, if you send another message 0 500 1000 before the 5 seconds of the first message passed then it overwrites the first message and goes to 0 after 1 second. (and if you were at 0 nothing happens.) the message in the help patch should go to 1 over a duration of one second, then jump to zero after one second and then ramp up again starting after 1 second (counting from the time when you clicked). marius. naysayer wrote: hi all. just wondering if i am the only one who has missed the point when it comes to vline~. i know this has been around for quite some time now but i am confused as to how the object actually works. in the documentation there is an explanation that i feel is a little hard to understand. the message box says ramp up, jump down, then ramp up again | 1 1000, 0 0 1000, 1 1000 1000 ( yet when i press it only ramps upto 1 and thats it. now i'm trying how to use it and make it work but i can't figure out the syntax. could someone point me in the right direction. perhaps i'm being completely stupid and i've missed something simple. thanks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:31:26 +0100 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] understanding vline~ To: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Pd-List \(E-mail\) pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed marius schebella wrote: yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for version 0.33): The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.) fgmasdr. IOhannes -- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:52:11 +0100 From: yvan volochine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] Add Path problems To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Second question:I think it's possible to load a path with a message in a patch but also don't know how to do it! [declare] (part of pd) [import] (part of hcs) I think that [declare] came with pd-0.4 so it won't work for Delphine as she has pd-0.39 (until the tomorrow-windows-build ? =) [import] should work fine though. You also have the other trick i.e. put your folder name in object name (when folder is already in your pd path): [rradical/rrad.filt~]. This can be boring... or handy (when sharing a patch with subfolders). HTH _yvan -- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:04:01 +0100 From: Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] pd-ext paths, libs and help To: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 21:57 -0500, marius schebella wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 12:09 -0500, marius schebella wrote: declare -path oscx is also doing nothing. oh, wait! as written in the declare-help.pd, -path is relative to pd, so you have to use: [declare -path oscx] (assuming the folder is pd-path/extra/oscx) roman but that is exaclty what I used! (see 2 lines above...) something is broken with declare. (see mails before). hans, would it be a problem to add all the missing paths to the configuration file of pdxt? adding all these external libraries but not supporting them seems weird. marius. argh.. sorry for the confusion.. i wanted to type: [declare -path extra/oscx] that is what actually is written in the helpfile. anyway, have a look at it. roman ___ Der fr|he Vogel fdngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de -- ___ PD-list mailing list PD-list@iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info
[PD] how to get plugin~ to work on windows with LADSPA plugins?
I'm trying to use LADSPA plugins with PD on windows... I've got the most recent pd-extended package installed, Pd version 0.38.4-extended-RC8. I figure I need to tell it the path to the ladspa dlls (I'm using ones that came with Audacity for now), and give it the correct parameters. I copied a plugin (sc4.dll) to the pd bin folder and the extras folder, as I expect pd/plugin~ looks in those places.. E.g. would plugin~ sc4 sc4.dll be the correct thing to type to get it to load the sc4 compressor plugin? Is it possible to use LADSPA plugins on windows? If so, I'd really appreciate someone telling me how... if I get this working maybe I'll update the pure-data.info wiki with the details.. thanks in advance Rua HM. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [OT]TTS
hello list, sorry for the off-topic, but i dont know where to ask: does anybody know a free or opensource TTS with a german male voice? any hints appreciated, thx, reinhard ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Which new component? was Re: Invalid public movie atom
A recent QT upgrade (7.4.1) now lets QT read the file created by pdp_rec~. However, the video portion comes out blank. The first time I tried reading the file I got a message something like QT needs a new component in order to read this file. Of course, it didn't say *which* new component, and the Apple website it directed me to was no help. Subsequently, plays the file without giving the message -- but still with the video blank. Does anyone know which new component is needed? Thanks. -- Dudley Dudley Brooks wrote: Dudley Brooks wrote: Olivier Heinry wrote: The last time I tried to pix_record on OSX (on a Dual G5 running Panther, 2Go RAM) , I switched to Gem2pdp + pdp_rec because the Mac couldnt handle it in realtime for a 640x480 window and PDP made it (might be related to PDP multithread capability). I'm sorry, what is pdp_rec? It won't create, and I don't find it listed. The only thing I find that seems to be able to write to a file is pdp_rawout. I found it as soon as I added the missing tilde at the end: pdp_rec~. So I now have pdp_rec~. But when I try to play the output file in QuickTime, I get the error message The movie could not be opened. An invalid public movie atom was found in the movie. The same thing happens if I try to import into Final Cut or iMovie. Google reveals that it's because when QT 7.3 came out, they changed the value of a null byte from 0 to -1 -- thereby invalidating many .mov files and infuriating many people. The only suggested solution I've found mentioned is reverting to QT 7.2 (someone recommends 7.1.6), which apparently involves wiping the HD and re-installing the OS -- *if* you can find QT 7.2 or 7.1.6. I searched for the error message on the pd-list archive and didn't find anything. Does anyone have experience with this and know a solution? Olivier, when you use gem2pdp and pdp_rec~ as mentioned in your post, what do you do with the resulting file? Thanks. -- Dudley ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how to get plugin~ to work on windows with LADSPA plugins?
I'm trying to use LADSPA plugins with PD on windows... I've got the most recent pd-extended package installed, Pd version 0.38.4-extended-RC8. I figure I need to tell it the path to the ladspa dlls (I'm using ones that came with Audacity for now), and give it the correct parameters. I copied a plugin (sc4.dll) to the pd bin folder and the extras folder, as I expect pd/plugin~ looks in those places.. I'm afraid it's not as simple as that. [plugin~] doesn't know anything about Pd's search path. It uses the environment variable LADSPA_PATH to search for the DLL. Depending on how portable getenv() is, you might just be able to set the LADPSA_PATH on windows to the directory that contains your plugins, and then use the external exactly as you describe below. E.g. would plugin~ sc4 sc4.dll be the correct thing to type to get it to load the sc4 compressor plugin? If that doesn't work, you should try giving the absolute path to the dll, e.g. [plugin~ sc4 c:\my\plugin\path\sc4.dll] I'm not exactly sure of the path spec that dlopen() expects on Windows, so you might need to experiment with e.g using forward slashes: c:/my/plugin/path ?? Is it possible to use LADSPA plugins on windows? If so, I'd really appreciate someone telling me how... if I get this working maybe I'll update the pure-data.info wiki with the details.. It's definitely possible as evindenced by Audacity's LADSPA support. It's just a case of getting plugin~ to find and load the plugins. Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT]TTS
moin Reinhard, I don't really know of any open source German TTS systen (although way back when, someone appears to have hacked some German Holmes-elements into rsynth -- not sure of the status of that code; best to ask rsynth's maintainer (Nick Ing-Simmons) if you want to go that route, which I suspect you probably don't), so... free-as-in-free-beer systems, yes: check out HADIFIX and the 'txt2pho' program from (I believe) the Universität Bonn, for use with MBROLA (free for non-commercial and non-military use). There's also an add-on module for the free, open-source festival TTS system. The German add-on itself is available under an MBROLA-like license from the IMS Stuttgart. Warning here: I've never actually gotten the whole ims-german-festival package to compile under current versions of festival: I think the project ran out of money and no one's been maintaining that code for several years now -- you may have better luck with an older version of festival itself and/or more scheme hacking than I was prepared to do ;-) You might also checkout BOSS (also from Uni Bonn), which I've never looked at, but is the successor system to HADIFIX. BOSS itself is supposed to be open source, but the voices and language models are (unfortunately) still proprietary, AFAIK. Please let me know if you manage to dig up anything better! marmosets, Bryan Some URLs: rsynth: ftp://svr-ftp.eng.cam.ac.uk/pub/comp.speech/synthesis/rsynth-2.0.tar.gz festival: http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival HADIFIX/txt2pho: http://www.ikp.uni-bonn.de/dt/forsch/phonetik/hadifix/HADIFIXforMBROLA.html BOSS: http://www.ikp.uni-bonn.de/dt/forsch/phonetik/boss/index.html MBROLA: http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola.html Comparison of TTS Systems for German: http://www.8hertz.com/tts/tts.html On 2008-03-06 20:40:00, Reinhard Handl [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: hello list, sorry for the off-topic, but i dont know where to ask: does anybody know a free or opensource TTS with a german male voice? any hints appreciated, thx, reinhard -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] R: working windows builds...
i'm trying how to use it and make it work but i can't figure out the syntax. could someone point me in the right direction. perhaps i'm being completely stupid and i've missed something simple. thanks -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/ 20080306/434d182e/a ttachment-0001.htm -- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:16:18 -0500 From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] understanding vline~ To: naysayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Pd-List \(E-mail\) pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. the first number is the value that you want to go to. the second value is the duration it takes to go to that value and the third nmber is the time when to start with the action. 99 1000 5000 means go to 99 in 1000ms but wait for 5000 ms before you start. the problem is, if you send another message 0 500 1000 before the 5 seconds of the first message passed then it overwrites the first message and goes to 0 after 1 second. (and if you were at 0 nothing happens.) the message in the help patch should go to 1 over a duration of one second, then jump to zero after one second and then ramp up again starting after 1 second (counting from the time when you clicked). marius. naysayer wrote: hi all. just wondering if i am the only one who has missed the point when it comes to vline~. i know this has been around for quite some time now but i am confused as to how the object actually works. in the documentation there is an explanation that i feel is a little hard to understand. the message box says ramp up, jump down, then ramp up again | 1 1000, 0 0 1000, 1 1000 1000 ( yet when i press it only ramps upto 1 and thats it. now i'm trying how to use it and make it work but i can't figure out the syntax. could someone point me in the right direction. perhaps i'm being completely stupid and i've missed something simple. thanks - --- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:31:26 +0100 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] understanding vline~ To: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Pd-List \(E-mail\) pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed marius schebella wrote: yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for version 0.33): The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.) fgmasdr. IOhannes -- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:52:11 +0100 From: yvan volochine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] Add Path problems To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Second question:I think it's possible to load a path with a message in a patch but also don't know how to do it! [declare] (part of pd) [import] (part of hcs) I think that [declare] came with pd-0.4 so it won't work for Delphine as she has pd-0.39 (until the tomorrow-windows-build ? =) [import] should work fine though. You also have the other trick i.e. put your folder name in object name (when folder is already in your pd path): [rradical/rrad.filt~]. This can be boring... or handy (when sharing a patch with subfolders). HTH _yvan -- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:04:01 +0100 From: Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] pd-ext paths, libs and help To: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 21:57 -0500, marius schebella wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 12:09 -0500, marius schebella wrote: declare -path oscx is also doing nothing. oh, wait! as written in the declare-help.pd, -path is relative to pd, so you have to use: [declare -path oscx] (assuming the folder is pd-path/extra/oscx) roman but that is exaclty what I used! (see 2 lines above...) something is broken with declare. (see mails before). hans, would it be a problem to add all the missing paths to the configuration file of pdxt? adding all these external libraries but not supporting them seems weird. marius. argh.. sorry for the confusion.. i wanted to type: [declare -path extra/oscx] that is what actually is written in the helpfile. anyway, have
Re: [PD] A couple new list-abs
Allow me to chime in. I don't know if this is trivial from the list- abs or maybe comes as a special case in one of them. But here goes. [list-alter-idx] takes tree inputs 2) an idx or the list element key (counting from 0) 1) a list in which element number idx will be altered by 0) the new input, and returns the original list but with element number idx altered. Makes sense? See attached. It's whoever not robust as if idx is greater then list-length, it misbehaves. It depends on list-abs. It's inspired by RTC. list-alter-idx-help.pd Description: Binary data list-alter-idx.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how to get plugin~ to work on windows with LADSPA plugins?
Thanks for the tips.. I tried the absolute path, with / slashes (pd doesn't allow \ slashes, understandable), and I also tried setting LADSPA_PATH (no spaces in the path by the way!), and setting LADSPA_PATH with unix slash (/), all to no avail. When I look in the console however I see the following output: load_object: Symbol plugin_tilde_setup not found load_object: Symbol setup_plugin0x7e not found plugin~ sc4 sc4.dll ... couldn't create So perhaps something is wrong with the setup of the [plugin~] object itself? I installed from the pd-extended package, nothing custom yet, maybe I should get source code and see about compiling it on windows myself... Anyway does anyone know the meaning of the load_object messages, and how I might fix/workaround? thanks Rua HM. [sorry for the top-post, the new yahoo mail doesn't seem to have the same re: behaviour as before..] - Original Message From: Jamie Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rua Haszard Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, 7 March, 2008 9:32:27 AM Subject: Re: [PD] how to get plugin~ to work on windows with LADSPA plugins? I'm trying to use LADSPA plugins with PD on windows... I've got the most recent pd-extended package installed, Pd version 0.38.4-extended-RC8. I figure I need to tell it the path to the ladspa dlls (I'm using ones that came with Audacity for now), and give it the correct parameters. I copied a plugin (sc4.dll) to the pd bin folder and the extras folder, as I expect pd/plugin~ looks in those places.. I'm afraid it's not as simple as that. [plugin~] doesn't know anything about Pd's search path. It uses the environment variable LADSPA_PATH to search for the DLL. Depending on how portable getenv() is, you might just be able to set the LADPSA_PATH on windows to the directory that contains your plugins, and then use the external exactly as you describe below. E.g. would plugin~ sc4 sc4.dll be the correct thing to type to get it to load the sc4 compressor plugin? If that doesn't work, you should try giving the absolute path to the dll, e.g. [plugin~ sc4 c:\my\plugin\path\sc4.dll] I'm not exactly sure of the path spec that dlopen() expects on Windows, so you might need to experiment with e.g using forward slashes: c:/my/plugin/path ?? Is it possible to use LADSPA plugins on windows? If so, I'd really appreciate someone telling me how... if I get this working maybe I'll update the pure-data.info wiki with the details.. It's definitely possible as evindenced by Audacity's LADSPA support. It's just a case of getting plugin~ to find and load the plugins. Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Which new component? was Re: Invalid public movie atom
I tired of waiting and have successfully opened movies created with pdp_rec~ on a mac using FFMPEGX on linux i export to AVI with VLC wizard your welcome pp Dudley Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A recent QT upgrade (7.4.1) now lets QT read the file created by pdp_rec~. However, the video portion comes out blank. The first time I tried reading the file I got a message something like QT needs a new component in order to read this file. Of course, it didn't say *which* new component, and the Apple website it directed me to was no help. Subsequently, plays the file without giving the message -- but still with the video blank. Does anyone know which new component is needed? Thanks. -- Dudley Dudley Brooks wrote: Dudley Brooks wrote: Olivier Heinry wrote: The last time I tried to pix_record on OSX (on a Dual G5 running Panther, 2Go RAM) , I switched to Gem2pdp + pdp_rec because the Mac couldnt handle it in realtime for a 640x480 window and PDP made it (might be related to PDP multithread capability). I'm sorry, what is pdp_rec? It won't create, and I don't find it listed. The only thing I find that seems to be able to write to a file is pdp_rawout. I found it as soon as I added the missing tilde at the end: pdp_rec~. So I now have pdp_rec~. But when I try to play the output file in QuickTime, I get the error message The movie could not be opened. An invalid public movie atom was found in the movie. The same thing happens if I try to import into Final Cut or iMovie. Google reveals that it's because when QT 7.3 came out, they changed the value of a null byte from 0 to -1 -- thereby invalidating many .mov files and infuriating many people. The only suggested solution I've found mentioned is reverting to QT 7.2 (someone recommends 7.1.6), which apparently involves wiping the HD and re-installing the OS -- *if* you can find QT 7.2 or 7.1.6. I searched for the error message on the pd-list archive and didn't find anything. Does anyone have experience with this and know a solution? Olivier, when you use gem2pdp and pdp_rec~ as mentioned in your post, what do you do with the resulting file? Thanks. -- Dudley ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pyext and pd on mac os x
Hey all, I had the chance to compile py on a 10.4 machine... the binary is in http://g.org/ext/beta/pd/osx. I hope it works for you. gr~~~ Am 03.03.2008 um 21:04 schrieb Thomas Grill: Am 03.03.2008 um 19:29 schrieb marius schebella: Thomas Grill wrote: It is possible to build 10.4-compatible packages on 10.5, It _should_ be possible but i see now why it isn't. There are problems linking with the 10.4 SDK and i don't have enough time to look into how to work around the problem. It would be great if someone on a 10.4 system could provide a binary. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
ok i think the problem here is that the documentation is not the best way to present what vline can do. although the explaination is there, i feel that the demonstation does not reproduce the results for the user(or beginner user for that matter). for example. when you click on the rampup, jump down, ramp up again you don't actually get to see that in the example patch because it happens so quickly in the atom gui.(does anyone agree on that with me??). Where as if you print the output of snapshot then you can see that it is working. eg print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0.0551474 print: 0.155283 print: 0.255419 print: 0.354104 print: 0.45424 print: 0.554376 print: 0.654512 print: 0.754649 print: 0.854785 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 On 3/7/08, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry, I was blind and now I see. I should not post mails so late. marius. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: marius schebella wrote: yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for version 0.33): The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.) fgmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding vline~
sorry wrong example. print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0.0551474 print: 0.155283 print: 0.255419 print: 0.354104 print: 0.45424 print: 0.554376 print: 0.654512 print: 0.754649 print: 0.854785 print: 0.954921 print: 0.0550567 print: 0.155193 print: 0.255329 print: 0.355465 print: 0.45415 print: 0.554286 print: 0.654422 print: 0.754558 print: 0.854694 print: 0.95483 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 On 3/7/08, naysayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok i think the problem here is that the documentation is not the best way to present what vline can do. although the explaination is there, i feel that the demonstation does not reproduce the results for the user(or beginner user for that matter). for example. when you click on the rampup, jump down, ramp up again you don't actually get to see that in the example patch because it happens so quickly in the atom gui.(does anyone agree on that with me??). Where as if you print the output of snapshot then you can see that it is working. eg print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0 print: 0.0551474 print: 0.155283 print: 0.255419 print: 0.354104 print: 0.45424 print: 0.554376 print: 0.654512 print: 0.754649 print: 0.854785 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 print: 1 On 3/7/08, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry, I was blind and now I see. I should not post mails so late. marius. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: marius schebella wrote: yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for version 0.33): The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.) fgmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [OT] For Hans, question on Arduino
Hello Hans, I am sending this to the list as others might be interested. I am curious about where to start in designing and building a controller. I have an idea for what I would like to do, but there doesn't seem to be any similar boards on the Arduino cite. Could you recommend a mailing list or some other group that might provide some info for a newbie? Thanks, Mike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap on Pd-extended (osx)
any ideas on this? been away from pd for some days, but still havent got it working thankyou! On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, potax flan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok i'm starting to feel dumb i tried with [import vbap] + [import iemmatrix] and [declare -sdtpath extra/iemmatrix] + [declare -sdtpath extra/vbap] the result is still the same. even thou i guess import/declare should work the same as adding vbap and iemmatrix to the startup flags, how do i do that? there is no space left :) sorry if this is very obvious p On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 10:05 +0100, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! i imported both libraries (see log below) but still no luck define speakers and mtx_*~ are still m.i.a. ideas? because you probably imported the libs after the other objects. Try to load the libraries at pd startup (e.g. in your pd settings or with a startup flag). since you are using pd-extended version 0.40.x you could alternatively use [declare -sdtpath extra/iemmatrix] and [declare -sdtpath extra/vbap]. [declare] makes sure to add pathes / load libraries at patch start before any other object is instantiated. if you want to stick with [import], cut and paste your whole patch except the [import] objects and save it. on next patchload [import] should be instantiated before other objects. while we are at it, i would like to note, that [declare] is part of pd itself and will work on any installation of pd. personally and for portability reasons, i think it is in any case preferable to let a patch load its dependencies itself (a.k.a using [import] or [declare]) instead of adding the pathes to the global search pathes (a.k.a pd settings / startup flags). this will make your patch work on any system independently from the configuration of the current system. and it makes it easier for other users to guess what libraries are missing. roman define_loudspeakers 3 -45 0 45 0 0 45 180 45 ... couldn't create define_loudspeakers 2 -45 45 135 -135 ... couldn't create mtx 8 3 ... couldn't create mtx_*~ 8 3 20 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create libdir_loader: added iemmatrix to the canvas-local path [import] loaded library: iemmatrix vbap: already loaded [import] loaded library: vbap ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdlua binaries for windows??
It should be included in tomorrow's nightly build. .hc On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:59 AM, matteo sisti sette wrote: Hi, Are there any downloadable precompiled binaries of pdlua for Windows?? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap on Pd-extended (osx)
[vbap/vbap] works. .hc On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:18 PM, potax flan wrote: any ideas on this? been away from pd for some days, but still havent got it working thankyou! On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, potax flan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok i'm starting to feel dumb i tried with [import vbap] + [import iemmatrix] and [declare -sdtpath extra/iemmatrix] + [declare -sdtpath extra/vbap] the result is still the same. even thou i guess import/declare should work the same as adding vbap and iemmatrix to the startup flags, how do i do that? there is no space left :) sorry if this is very obvious p On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 10:05 +0100, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! i imported both libraries (see log below) but still no luck define speakers and mtx_*~ are still m.i.a. ideas? because you probably imported the libs after the other objects. Try to load the libraries at pd startup (e.g. in your pd settings or with a startup flag). since you are using pd-extended version 0.40.x you could alternatively use [declare -sdtpath extra/iemmatrix] and [declare -sdtpath extra/vbap]. [declare] makes sure to add pathes / load libraries at patch start before any other object is instantiated. if you want to stick with [import], cut and paste your whole patch except the [import] objects and save it. on next patchload [import] should be instantiated before other objects. while we are at it, i would like to note, that [declare] is part of pd itself and will work on any installation of pd. personally and for portability reasons, i think it is in any case preferable to let a patch load its dependencies itself (a.k.a using [import] or [declare]) instead of adding the pathes to the global search pathes (a.k.a pd settings / startup flags). this will make your patch work on any system independently from the configuration of the current system. and it makes it easier for other users to guess what libraries are missing. roman define_loudspeakers 3 -45 0 45 0 0 45 180 45 ... couldn't create define_loudspeakers 2 -45 45 135 -135 ... couldn't create mtx 8 3 ... couldn't create mtx_*~ 8 3 20 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create libdir_loader: added iemmatrix to the canvas-local path [import] loaded library: iemmatrix vbap: already loaded [import] loaded library: vbap ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Lua and PD
On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: me too, really excited to see lua signal processing in pd. since graham wakefield is involved I guess it will be similar to the max version? Yes, it's practically the same objectclass. For now it's called [vessel~] instead of [lua~] but that might change. are you planning a native texteditor support from within pd. I saw texteditors that pop up when you double cklick an object for example for the cyclone coll object. something like this (... syntax highlighting???). I won't do this: The tk-editor is not very usable and other editor widgets would add dependencies I'd like to avoid. Most people will want to use their favourite editor anyway. Maybe it's possible to use os.execute() in scripts on your own to start an editor, but it also may introduce platform issues. auto updating of scripts when they are changed and saved would be nice, too. That could be useful, but it's not high on my todo list for now. Ciao It seems to me that the ideal would be to have access to the Pd DSP API in pdlua, then you can just write tilde objects in lua. I don't really know how hard that would be. .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] For Hans, question on Arduino
Which kind of controller are you thinking about? there is a good resource about sensors on http://itp.nyu.edu/physcomp/sensors/Reports/Reports, the arduino forum will answer questions http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl and if you want to start reading then check out phsysical computing book by tom igoe http://itp.nyu.edu/~dbo3/physical/physical.html. physical computing is the term under which microcontroller/electronic hacking runs in new york (I heard that these words don't mean much to anybody else). and you can also ask on the pd list (but be a little bit more specific... marius. Mike McGonagle wrote: Hello Hans, I am sending this to the list as others might be interested. I am curious about where to start in designing and building a controller. I have an idea for what I would like to do, but there doesn't seem to be any similar boards on the Arduino cite. Could you recommend a mailing list or some other group that might provide some info for a newbie? Thanks, Mike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap on Pd-extended (osx)
what does it do? how does it work? I get only error messages here (osx) error: vbap: no method for 'float' marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [vbap/vbap] works. .hc On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:18 PM, potax flan wrote: any ideas on this? been away from pd for some days, but still havent got it working thankyou! On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, potax flan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok i'm starting to feel dumb i tried with [import vbap] + [import iemmatrix] and [declare -sdtpath extra/iemmatrix] + [declare -sdtpath extra/vbap] the result is still the same. even thou i guess import/declare should work the same as adding vbap and iemmatrix to the startup flags, how do i do that? there is no space left :) sorry if this is very obvious p On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 10:05 +0100, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! i imported both libraries (see log below) but still no luck define speakers and mtx_*~ are still m.i.a. ideas? because you probably imported the libs after the other objects. Try to load the libraries at pd startup (e.g. in your pd settings or with a startup flag). since you are using pd-extended version 0.40.x you could alternatively use [declare -sdtpath extra/iemmatrix] and [declare -sdtpath extra/vbap]. [declare] makes sure to add pathes / load libraries at patch start before any other object is instantiated. if you want to stick with [import], cut and paste your whole patch except the [import] objects and save it. on next patchload [import] should be instantiated before other objects. while we are at it, i would like to note, that [declare] is part of pd itself and will work on any installation of pd. personally and for portability reasons, i think it is in any case preferable to let a patch load its dependencies itself (a.k.a using [import] or [declare]) instead of adding the pathes to the global search pathes (a.k.a pd settings / startup flags). this will make your patch work on any system independently from the configuration of the current system. and it makes it easier for other users to guess what libraries are missing. roman define_loudspeakers 3 -45 0 45 0 0 45 180 45 ... couldn't create define_loudspeakers 2 -45 45 135 -135 ... couldn't create mtx 8 3 ... couldn't create mtx_*~ 8 3 20 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create libdir_loader: added iemmatrix to the canvas-local path [import] loaded library: iemmatrix vbap: already loaded [import] loaded library: vbap ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
Count me in as a mentor as well. To anyone who submitted a project last time and didn't get accepted, I think you should submit it again. The amount of funding we get is directly based on how many project submissions there are, so let's help each other submit lots of projects! Shall we apply as Pure Data this time? I am ok to apply as IEM again, but it just seems that most projects apply as the project rather than as another institution. Does anyone want to be the GSoC admin on this? .hc On Mar 3, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Andy Farnell wrote: I'd be happy to join any team that has a games+audio+Pd proposal as a mentor. On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:30:20 +0100 Georg Holzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo! We discussed at the LAC that we would like to apply again this year for google's summer of code project, which is about to start today (http://code.google.com/soc/2008/). I started a wiki at: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas/ where everyone can put in ideas and wishes. Of course you can also write your ideas to the mailinglist for discussion and I will add them afterwards to the wiki. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is no student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. So please put in your ideas and apply as mentor and student ! One more question: Who of the mentors would like to make the main communication with google ? Because someone has to fill out the application (the material from last year is also at http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas/ and http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/SummerOfCode ). I would suggest Hans or IOhannes or anyone else who wants to spend some time with it ;) LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd sounds better than Max?
hey, i was talking to a Portuguese musician tonight (Miguel Cardoso is his name) and he was saying that he thought that Pd sounded much better than Max - a fuller sound with the oscillators, he said. i hadn't really thought about this before, but i do know that to my ears my Pd patches sound a lot richer than most Max/MSP stuff that I've heard - not sure whether that's my source material or patches or whether it's at a deeper architectural level than that. anyone have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, to confirm this? reasons why this might be the case? -- damian stewart | +351 967 797 263 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] frey | live art with machines | http://www.frey.co.nz ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd sounds better than Max?
what I experience sometimes when I do very basic stuff like using phasors, is that I hear weird comb filtering of my environment after I put down my headphones. similar as if you look into bright light and then close the eyes, and you still see a review-image. regarding the difference between pd and max: are you talking about the music that people produce or are you talking about the digital signal process? m. Damian Stewart wrote: hey, i was talking to a Portuguese musician tonight (Miguel Cardoso is his name) and he was saying that he thought that Pd sounded much better than Max - a fuller sound with the oscillators, he said. i hadn't really thought about this before, but i do know that to my ears my Pd patches sound a lot richer than most Max/MSP stuff that I've heard - not sure whether that's my source material or patches or whether it's at a deeper architectural level than that. anyone have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, to confirm this? reasons why this might be the case? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vbap on Pd-extended (osx)
http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/research/cat/vbap/ .hc On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:07 PM, marius schebella wrote: what does it do? how does it work? I get only error messages here (osx) error: vbap: no method for 'float' marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [vbap/vbap] works. .hc On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:18 PM, potax flan wrote: any ideas on this? been away from pd for some days, but still havent got it working thankyou! On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, potax flan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok i'm starting to feel dumb i tried with [import vbap] + [import iemmatrix] and [declare -sdtpath extra/iemmatrix] + [declare -sdtpath extra/ vbap] the result is still the same. even thou i guess import/declare should work the same as adding vbap and iemmatrix to the startup flags, how do i do that? there is no space left :) sorry if this is very obvious p On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 10:05 +0100, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! i imported both libraries (see log below) but still no luck define speakers and mtx_*~ are still m.i.a. ideas? because you probably imported the libs after the other objects. Try to load the libraries at pd startup (e.g. in your pd settings or with a startup flag). since you are using pd-extended version 0.40.x you could alternatively use [declare -sdtpath extra/iemmatrix] and [declare -sdtpath extra/vbap]. [declare] makes sure to add pathes / load libraries at patch start before any other object is instantiated. if you want to stick with [import], cut and paste your whole patch except the [import] objects and save it. on next patchload [import] should be instantiated before other objects. while we are at it, i would like to note, that [declare] is part of pd itself and will work on any installation of pd. personally and for portability reasons, i think it is in any case preferable to let a patch load its dependencies itself (a.k.a using [import] or [declare]) instead of adding the pathes to the global search pathes (a.k.a pd settings / startup flags). this will make your patch work on any system independently from the configuration of the current system. and it makes it easier for other users to guess what libraries are missing. roman define_loudspeakers 3 -45 0 45 0 0 45 180 45 ... couldn't create define_loudspeakers 2 -45 45 135 -135 ... couldn't create mtx 8 3 ... couldn't create mtx_*~ 8 3 20 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create libdir_loader: added iemmatrix to the canvas-local path [import] loaded library: iemmatrix vbap: already loaded [import] loaded library: vbap ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin - --- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] For Hans, question on Arduino
You're referring to a midi controller, perhaps? It's pretty easy to code serial interfaces with other IC's using the arduino, and midi data is also sent using serial. So, it seems feasible. What sort of hardware do you want to interface, and what functions should it perform? Chuck On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Hans, I am sending this to the list as others might be interested. I am curious about where to start in designing and building a controller. I have an idea for what I would like to do, but there doesn't seem to be any similar boards on the Arduino cite. Could you recommend a mailing list or some other group that might provide some info for a newbie? Thanks, Mike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Google SoC: call for mentors and project ideas
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Georg Holzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo! I'd like to apply for some Mentos. I like mixed fruit or grape. As for Pd, I can't think of something major enough to call for Google SoC, but I'll keep thinking. I think the projects should not be too big. This is maybe something we can learn from last year. It would be nice to have compact projects which would be e.g. also manageable by people new to the pd community ... In that case, I might think of a few possibilities for anyone who is open to them. [...] Dunno if that's worth a Summer of Code commission though. If it is, I hope at least one of the mentors will fill out the application as The Freshmaker. Do you want to apply as student or as mentor ? I don't know if a Freshmaker is suggestive, maybe try to formulate it in a more compact way with some definitive points which should be done. Sorry, I was making a dumb joke about old Mentos commercials; I suppose they were only shown in the US. I look forward to seeing how this turns out! -Chuckk -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
