Re: [PD] PD extended for Ubuntu gutsy : dependencies?

2008-04-09 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo!

 It was a quick hack we did at LAC, but it turns out that there is a 
 Debian tool for this, that's probably the better choice.  I think the 
 tool is dpkg-shlibsdeps, but I am just guessing.

No I changed it already to use dpkg-shlibsdeps (but thanks for the link) 
- so I don't really know what the problem is ...

I search for all .pd_linux files and pd itself in the destination dir 
(trunk/packages/linux_make/Makefile):

PACKAGE_BINARIES := $(shell find $(DESTDIR) \( -name *.pd_linux -o 
-name pd \) )

and then calculate the dependencies:

PACKAGE_DEPENDS := $(shell dpkg-shlibdeps -O $(PACKAGE_BINARIES) | cut 
-b0-15 --complement )


Do you have any ideas why Gem is not included here ? Is it maybe 
installed not in $(DESTDIR) on the autobuild farm ?

LG
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[PD] motion detector (PIR...?)

2008-04-09 Thread Jaime Oliver
Hello all,

I was wondering if any of you had any experience hacking motion detectors,
the kind that is used in stores to make a sound when you enter or in lights
that turn on when you pass by... the key of course is that it should have a
digital (on/off spirit).
So far i have understood that they are called 'PIR motion switch'. I am
looking to not do so much work (building and testing a sensor), but to get
one i can hack  hook to a board and get 1's and 0's so any comment is great
and I'll probably need 10-12 so the cheapest the better (they seem to be in
a lot of lights so they should be cheap!!)

I am looking for something similar to this:

http://www.amazon.com/Ziotek-Sensor-Plug/dp/B000BSLTNI/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1207729271sr=1-19

i suppose these should work too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOTION-DETECTOR-SENSOR-ALARM-CHIME-CUSTOMER-ALERT-NEW_W0QQitemZ300214248030QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.thewholesalediscountstore.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/32461/vpid/3965547/vpcsid/0/rid/126381

hope you are all doing well,

best,

Jaime



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Re: [PD] PD extended for Ubuntu gutsy : dependencies?

2008-04-09 Thread Olivier Heinry
Le Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:30:33 +0200,
Georg Holzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 Hallo!
 Do you have any ideas why Gem is not included here ? Is it maybe 
 installed not in $(DESTDIR) on the autobuild farm ?

Btw, Gem crashes as soon as i create a gemhead. glxgears works fine though.

I'll install the newest autobuild and let you know.

++
O.

 
 LG
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Re: [PD] PD and new ASUS and Everex mini laptops: experiences?

2008-04-09 Thread Igor Medeiros
any GEM tests with asus eee? it can use a higher video output resolution am
i rght?
i am interested in its capabilities for a vj work...

thx in advance
igor

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Georg Holzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hallo!

  Official repository don't provide puredata. Old version (0.39) could
  be found in Etch repository.

 Yes an old version is also in the Xandros repositories ...
 However, I also compiled pd from source now.

 And it really runs quite nice - one of my performance patches with
 arduino interface uses about 20% (some synths, samples and effects) and
 also without dropouts when switching windows etc.
 However, I didn't test the latency so far ...

 So it's really nice for simple audio things, especially if you have some
 other interfaces and don't want to show your big computer ... ;)

 LG
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Re: [PD] motion detector (PIR...?)

2008-04-09 Thread Martin Peach
You could try one of these, it's cheaper and already does what you want:
http://www.hvwtech.com/products_view.asp?ProductID=270
You can also get just the PIR detector (it looks like a transistor with 
a window on top) and wire it up with a couple of op-amps to have an 
analog sensor.

Martin

Jaime Oliver wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I was wondering if any of you had any experience hacking motion 
 detectors, the kind that is used in stores to make a sound when you 
 enter or in lights that turn on when you pass by... the key of course is 
 that it should have a digital (on/off spirit). 
 So far i have understood that they are called 'PIR motion switch'. I am 
 looking to not do so much work (building and testing a sensor), but to 
 get one i can hack  hook to a board and get 1's and 0's so any comment 
 is great and I'll probably need 10-12 so the cheapest the better (they 
 seem to be in a lot of lights so they should be cheap!!)
 
 I am looking for something similar to this:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Ziotek-Sensor-Plug/dp/B000BSLTNI/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1207729271sr=1-19
  
 http://www.amazon.com/Ziotek-Sensor-Plug/dp/B000BSLTNI/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8s=hiqid=1207729271sr=1-19
 
 i suppose these should work too:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/MOTION-DETECTOR-SENSOR-ALARM-CHIME-CUSTOMER-ALERT-NEW_W0QQitemZ300214248030QQcmdZViewItem
 
 http://www.thewholesalediscountstore.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/32461/vpid/3965547/vpcsid/0/rid/126381
 
 hope you are all doing well,
 
 best,
 
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Re: [PD] shell scripts to tell which externals are used by patches

2008-04-09 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen
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 Hi all,

  I wrote some shell scripts to find out which externals my patches need.

Great!  I had been planning to whip up something like this for a
while, but I'm glad you did it since I probably would have done
something silly like tried to use Pd to process the files.

Thanks
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Re: [PD] PIR sensors

2008-04-09 Thread Martin Peach
You can also get the sensor on its own here:
http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.101/.f

Martin



From: Ben Carney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] PIR sensors
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:25:00 -0500

hello there jaime,

I have just recently bought 15 I.R. sensors for an installaition I  am
working on.
I found two for around the $5-$6 range



http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7330

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10082

i went with the first link because it is a rabbit, of course.

shouyld get them in a week or two.

i know a bit about hackingt them(not too hard to do it seems)

let me know how this project comes along as we might end up being a 
valuable
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Re: [PD] PIR sensors

2008-04-09 Thread Ben Carney
Not that i know much about sensors or electronics, but i believe this would
be a bit harder to implement, the modules that come out of  home lights have
a set of resistors and other small bit built into a small circuit.
that is a really good price, however!

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 You can also get the sensor on its own here:
 http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.101/.f

 Martin



  From: Ben Carney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at
  Subject: Re: [PD] PIR sensors
  Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:25:00 -0500
 
 
  hello there jaime,
 
I have just recently bought 15 I.R. sensors for an installaition I  am
  working on.
I found two for around the $5-$6 range
 
 
 
  http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7330
 
  http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10082
 
  i went with the first link because it is a rabbit, of course.
 
  shouyld get them in a week or two.
 
  i know a bit about hackingt them(not too hard to do it seems)
 
  let me know how this project comes along as we might end up being a
  valuable
  resource to one another.
 
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Re: [PD] PIR sensors

2008-04-09 Thread Ben Carney
hello there jaime,

   I have just recently bought 15 I.R. sensors for an installaition I  am
working on.
   I found two for around the $5-$6 range



http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7330

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10082

i went with the first link because it is a rabbit, of course.

shouyld get them in a week or two.

i know a bit about hackingt them(not too hard to do it seems)

let me know how this project comes along as we might end up being a valuable
resource to one another.

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Re: [PD] PD extended for Ubuntu gutsy : dependencies?

2008-04-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Apr 9, 2008, at 4:30 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote:
 Hallo!

 It was a quick hack we did at LAC, but it turns out that there is  
 a Debian tool for this, that's probably the better choice.  I  
 think the tool is dpkg-shlibsdeps, but I am just guessing.

 No I changed it already to use dpkg-shlibsdeps (but thanks for the  
 link) - so I don't really know what the problem is ...

Nice!  Sorry, I didn't realize that.

 I search for all .pd_linux files and pd itself in the destination  
 dir (trunk/packages/linux_make/Makefile):

 PACKAGE_BINARIES := $(shell find $(DESTDIR) \( -name *.pd_linux - 
 o -name pd \) )

 and then calculate the dependencies:

 PACKAGE_DEPENDS := $(shell dpkg-shlibdeps -O $(PACKAGE_BINARIES) |  
 cut -b0-15 --complement )


 Do you have any ideas why Gem is not included here ? Is it maybe  
 installed not in $(DESTDIR) on the autobuild farm ?

Olivier, are you sure that you needed all those packages?  Some of  
the ones you listed are listed here, others are not:

$ dpkg-shlibdeps -O `find build/usr/local/ -name \*.pd_linux`
shlibs:Depends=fftw3, libbz2-1.0, libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libdv4,  
libflite1, libfreetype6 (= 2.2), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1-12), libgl1- 
mesa-glx | libgl1, libglu1-mesa | libglu1, libgsl0 (= 1.4),  
libimlib2, libjpeg62, liblame0 (= 3.96-1.0), libmagick++9c2a,  
libmagick9, libmpeg1 (= 1.3.1-1), libmpeg3-1 (= 1.5.4), libogg0 (=  
1.1.3), libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4), libquicktime0, libspeex1 (=  
1.1.8), libstdc++6 (= 4.1.1-12), libtheora0, libtiff4, libvorbis0a  
(= 1.1.2), libvorbisenc2 (= 1.1.2), libvorbisfile3 (= 1.1.2),  
libx11-6, libxext6, libxv1, tcl8.4 (= 8.4.5), zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1)
$
$ dpkg-shlibdeps -O build/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux
shlibs:Depends=libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libdv4, libfreetype6 (= 2.2),  
libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1-12), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libglu1-mesa |  
libglu1, libjpeg62, libmagick++9c2a, libmagick9, libmpeg1 (=  
1.3.1-1), libmpeg3-1 (= 1.5.4), libquicktime0, libstdc++6 (=  
4.1.1-12), libtiff4, libx11-6, libxext6, zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1)
$
$ dpkg-shlibdeps -O build/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux
shlibs:Depends=libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libglu1- 
mesa | libglu1, libgsl0 (= 1.4), libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4),  
libquicktime0, libx11-6, libxext6, libxv1, zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1)


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Re: [PD] PIR sensors

2008-04-09 Thread Martin Peach

Here's a circuit that I used to amplify the PIR sensor.

Martin




From: Ben Carney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
pd-list@iem.at

Subject: Re: [PD] PIR sensors
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:46:42 -0500

Not that i know much about sensors or electronics, but i believe this would
be a bit harder to implement, the modules that come out of  home lights 
have

a set of resistors and other small bit built into a small circuit.
that is a really good price, however!

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 You can also get the sensor on its own here:
 http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.101/.f

 Martin



  From: Ben Carney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at
  Subject: Re: [PD] PIR sensors
  Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:25:00 -0500
 
 
  hello there jaime,
 
I have just recently bought 15 I.R. sensors for an installaition I  
am

  working on.
I found two for around the $5-$6 range
 
 
 
  http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7330
 
  http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10082
 
  i went with the first link because it is a rabbit, of course.
 
  shouyld get them in a week or two.
 
  i know a bit about hackingt them(not too hard to do it seems)
 
  let me know how this project comes along as we might end up being a
  valuable
  resource to one another.
 
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Re: [PD] PIR sensors

2008-04-09 Thread Derek Holzer
The home light switches have two parts, usually two separate boards. One 
is the sensor, which in my experience even has the inputs and outputs 
labeled on the sensor board (or at worse on the relay board), and the 
other is a relay to switch the mains voltage to the light on and off. 
The sensor board is self sufficient, runs on +5 or +9 volts probably, 
while the relay board is designed to have 110/220 VAC running through 
it. Easily separated with wire snips. I've never seen anything easier to 
hack in my life. Hook it up to power and ground, point it at something 
and it gives + volts or ground out the output wire. You could power it 
from an Arduino board and run the output back to the input, and from 
there do just about anything with it.

best,
d.

Ben Carney wrote:
 Not that i know much about sensors or electronics, but i believe this 
 would be a bit harder to implement, the modules that come out of  home 
 lights have a set of resistors and other small bit built into a small 
 circuit.
 
 that is a really good price, however!
 
 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You can also get the sensor on its own here:
 http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.101/.f
 
 Martin
 
 
 
 From: Ben Carney [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
 pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] PIR sensors
 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:25:00 -0500
 
 
 hello there jaime,
 
   I have just recently bought 15 I.R. sensors for an
 installaition I  am
 working on.
   I found two for around the $5-$6 range
 
 
 
 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7330
 
 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10082
 
 i went with the first link because it is a rabbit, of course.
 
 shouyld get them in a week or two.
 
 i know a bit about hackingt them(not too hard to do it seems)
 
 let me know how this project comes along as we might end up
 being a valuable
 resource to one another.
 
 --
 
 Ben C.
 
 
 
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[PD] Controlling Arkaos with PD

2008-04-09 Thread Donal Carey
I'm trying to control Arkaos from PD via midi messages and am using midiyoke 
to pipe the messages from pd to arkaos. Can anyone point me to a sample 
patch that outputs midi control messages. I've set up Arkaos to accept midi 
messages on channel 1.

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[PD] problems with pdj

2008-04-09 Thread marius schebella
hi,
I am still a newbie to pdj, so maybe this is a known thing. I have a 
code that runs on max, and when I try to load it in pd I get this error:

pdj: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: wrong number of arguments
pdj:at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native 
Method)
pdj:at 
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
pdj:at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
pdj:at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:494)
pdj:at com.cycling74.max.MaxObject.registerObject(MaxObject.java:866)
  pdj rmiClient.RmiClient

is this related to a problem in the code? (as I said, the code doesnot 
throw an error with max) Or is it a problem of pdj?
the class file is in a folder rmiClient/RmiClient.class. is this what 
cuases the problem?
how can I fix it?
marius.

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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread Jaime Oliver
I know there is one, i think el oggro had it, the last news i saw were that
it was downhttp://oggro.blogspot.com/

saludos,

J

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 Hi all!

 I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish translation of the
 official Pd documentation.
 If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has no
 problem with that.

 And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)


 Thanks in advance.

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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread altern
hi

there were some tutorials but i am not sure if the docs are translated. 
let me know if you get it done. i know some lazy spanish students that 
would be very happy to see that.

enrike


Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
 Hi all!
 
 I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish translation of the 
 official Pd documentation.
 If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has no 
 problem with that.
 
 And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread Jaime Oliver
Something else that is started, but in it's initial phase is:
http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portadawhich would definitely benefit from your
energy. Check past posts about this for reference to what objects have
already been translated...

best,

J

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, altern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi

 there were some tutorials but i am not sure if the docs are translated.
 let me know if you get it done. i know some lazy spanish students that
 would be very happy to see that.

 enrike


 Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
  Hi all!
 
  I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish translation of the
  official Pd documentation.
  If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has no
  problem with that.
 
  And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)
 
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Best regards,
  Natanael Olaiz.
 
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[PD] IP camera and pidip

2008-04-09 Thread t'es in t'es bat
Hello,
I work for an installation with six usb webcam, i use pdp_canvas,
it work fine.
But in ubuntu i meet some pb for the opening of the different webcam.
I  work with different kind of webcam and it seemly work but i need to plug
cam step by step.
Often it crash pd. Maybe someone can help me for choosing the webcam.
BETTER i want to use ip cam and i find some model for linux with mjpeg or
jpeg motion compression.
Can you give me some feedback on that kind of stuff
i need also advice to get the video into pd
thanks
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Re: [PD] PD extended for Ubuntu gutsy : dependencies?

2008-04-09 Thread Olivier Heinry
Le Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:07:13 -0400,
Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :


 
 Olivier, are you sure that you needed all those packages?  Some of  
 the ones you listed are listed here, others are not:

Actually, I started pd-extended, everything loaded fine except Gem, saying it 
was missing libmpeg.so etc

and there was no way at all to load it until I apt-got the libs.


 
 $ dpkg-shlibdeps -O `find build/usr/local/ -name \*.pd_linux`
 shlibs:Depends=fftw3, libbz2-1.0, libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libdv4,  
 libflite1, libfreetype6 (= 2.2), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1-12), libgl1- 
 mesa-glx | libgl1, libglu1-mesa | libglu1, libgsl0 (= 1.4),  
 libimlib2, libjpeg62, liblame0 (= 3.96-1.0), libmagick++9c2a,  
 libmagick9, libmpeg1 (= 1.3.1-1), libmpeg3-1 (= 1.5.4), libogg0 (=  
 1.1.3), libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4), libquicktime0, libspeex1 (=  
 1.1.8), libstdc++6 (= 4.1.1-12), libtheora0, libtiff4, libvorbis0a  
 (= 1.1.2), libvorbisenc2 (= 1.1.2), libvorbisfile3 (= 1.1.2),  
 libx11-6, libxext6, libxv1, tcl8.4 (= 8.4.5), zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1)
 $
 $ dpkg-shlibdeps -O build/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux
 shlibs:Depends=libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libdv4, libfreetype6 (= 2.2),  
 libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1-12), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libglu1-mesa |  
 libglu1, libjpeg62, libmagick++9c2a, libmagick9, libmpeg1 (=  
 1.3.1-1), libmpeg3-1 (= 1.5.4), libquicktime0, libstdc++6 (=  
 4.1.1-12), libtiff4, libx11-6, libxext6, zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1)
 $
 $ dpkg-shlibdeps -O build/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux
 shlibs:Depends=libc6 (= 2.3.6-6), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libglu1- 
 mesa | libglu1, libgsl0 (= 1.4), libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4),  
 libquicktime0, libx11-6, libxext6, libxv1, zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1)
 
 
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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


If there is anything missing from this page, please add to it:

http://puredata.info/docs

.hc

On Apr 9, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:

Something else that is started, but in it's initial phase is:  
http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portada
which would definitely benefit from your energy. Check past posts  
about this for reference to what objects have already been  
translated...


best,

J

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hi

there were some tutorials but i am not sure if the docs are  
translated.

let me know if you get it done. i know some lazy spanish students that
would be very happy to see that.

enrike


Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
 Hi all!

 I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish translation  
of the

 official Pd documentation.
 If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has no
 problem with that.

 And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)


 Thanks in advance.

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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread Natanael Olaiz
Thank you and Altern for your replies.

There are some good resources in Spanish on the sites that you sent, but 
I didn't found the original documentation in any one... and that is what 
I want to translate, because I think is a good reference manual/tutorial 
for the new users.
I sent a comment to Oggro's blog asking him about it.

I though to begin the translation on the Musix Linux Audio Distribution 
wiki (http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portada), but maybe is better to do 
it in the pdpedia?


Best regards,
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On 04/09/2008 04:13 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
 Something else that is started, but in it's initial phase is: 
 http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portada
 which would definitely benefit from your energy. Check past posts 
 about this for reference to what objects have already been translated...

 best,

 J

 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, altern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi

 there were some tutorials but i am not sure if the docs are
 translated.
 let me know if you get it done. i know some lazy spanish students that
 would be very happy to see that.

 enrike


 Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
  Hi all!
 
  I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish
 translation of the
  official Pd documentation.
  If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has no
  problem with that.
 
  And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)
 
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Best regards,
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[PD] Reverse video in the PD editor?

2008-04-09 Thread Ken Restivo
I've been starting to use PD for some music production work. It's going very 
well so far.

I have a very simple and dumb question:

is there any way to get the PD windows to be in reverse video?

My eyes are killing me. I've got all my other apps set to grey text on a black 
background to save my eyesight. It'd be great if there were some hack I could 
use to get PD windows to be in reverse video too.

My understanding is that PD uses TK, so there must be some way to do this. 
Unfortunately, I don't know TK well enough to know how to do this. Looking in 
PD docs I didn't find any mention of reversing the video in PD windows.

Thanks!


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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread Natanael Olaiz
Sorry, the URL of Musix wiki is: 
http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Portada

El 04/09/2008 06:50 PM, Natanael Olaiz escribió:
 Thank you and Altern for your replies.

 There are some good resources in Spanish on the sites that you sent, 
 but I didn't found the original documentation in any one... and that 
 is what I want to translate, because I think is a good reference 
 manual/tutorial for the new users.
 I sent a comment to Oggro's blog asking him about it.

 I though to begin the translation on the Musix Linux Audio 
 Distribution wiki (http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portada), but maybe is 
 better to do it in the pdpedia?


 Best regards,
 Natanael.

 On 04/09/2008 04:13 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
 Something else that is started, but in it's initial phase is: 
 http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portada
 which would definitely benefit from your energy. Check past posts 
 about this for reference to what objects have already been translated...

 best,

 J

 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, altern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi

 there were some tutorials but i am not sure if the docs are
 translated.
 let me know if you get it done. i know some lazy spanish students 
 that
 would be very happy to see that.

 enrike


 Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
  Hi all!
 
  I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish
 translation of the
  official Pd documentation.
  If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has no
  problem with that.
 
  And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)
 
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Best regards,
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Re: [PD] Reverse video in the PD editor?

2008-04-09 Thread marius schebella
hi,
you can either set it in pd.tk (color scheme) or use hcs/sys_gui to do 
it on the fly.
marius.

Ken Restivo wrote:
 I've been starting to use PD for some music production work. It's going very 
 well so far.
 
 I have a very simple and dumb question:
 
 is there any way to get the PD windows to be in reverse video?
 
 My eyes are killing me. I've got all my other apps set to grey text on a 
 black background to save my eyesight. It'd be great if there were some hack I 
 could use to get PD windows to be in reverse video too.
 
 My understanding is that PD uses TK, so there must be some way to do this. 
 Unfortunately, I don't know TK well enough to know how to do this. Looking in 
 PD docs I didn't find any mention of reversing the video in PD windows.
 
 Thanks!
 
 
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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread Natanael Olaiz
Great!!
That is what I was looking for: http://delcorp.org/pdmanual_es/ !!!
Is partially translated, but I can't enter to the CVS URL... do you know 
who did it?

Thanks,
Natanael.


El 04/09/2008 06:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:

 If there is anything missing from this page, please add to it:

 http://puredata.info/docs

 .hc

 On Apr 9, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
 Something else that is started, but in it's initial phase is: 
 http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portada
 which would definitely benefit from your energy. Check past posts 
 about this for reference to what objects have already been translated...

 best,

 J

 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, altern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi

 there were some tutorials but i am not sure if the docs are
 translated.
 let me know if you get it done. i know some lazy spanish students
 that
 would be very happy to see that.

 enrike


 Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
  Hi all!
 
  I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish
 translation of the
  official Pd documentation.
  If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has no
  problem with that.
 
  And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)
 
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Best regards,
  Natanael Olaiz.
 
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Re: [PD] Reverse video in the PD editor?

2008-04-09 Thread marius schebella
sorry, the pd.tk where you can edit the color scheme easily ships with 
pd-extended. I think it is compatible to pd vanilla, but not sure.
marius.

marius schebella wrote:
 hi,
 you can either set it in pd.tk (color scheme) or use hcs/sys_gui to do 
 it on the fly.
 marius.
 
 Ken Restivo wrote:
 I've been starting to use PD for some music production work. It's 
 going very well so far.

 I have a very simple and dumb question:

 is there any way to get the PD windows to be in reverse video?

 My eyes are killing me. I've got all my other apps set to grey text on 
 a black background to save my eyesight. It'd be great if there were 
 some hack I could use to get PD windows to be in reverse video too.

 My understanding is that PD uses TK, so there must be some way to do 
 this. Unfortunately, I don't know TK well enough to know how to do 
 this. Looking in PD docs I didn't find any mention of reversing the 
 video in PD windows.

 Thanks!


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Re: [PD] Reverse video in the PD editor?

2008-04-09 Thread Martin Peach
The vanilla pd.tk can be edited to set the canvas background colour.
At line 914:
canvas $name.c -width $width -height $height -background white \
change white to something else.
You can also edit proc pdtk_text_new to get coloured text, but lines are 
not changeable in vanilla unless you modify the source code in about 5 
separate places.

Martin

marius schebella wrote:
 sorry, the pd.tk where you can edit the color scheme easily ships with 
 pd-extended. I think it is compatible to pd vanilla, but not sure.
 marius.
 
 marius schebella wrote:
 hi,
 you can either set it in pd.tk (color scheme) or use hcs/sys_gui to do 
 it on the fly.
 marius.

 Ken Restivo wrote:
 I've been starting to use PD for some music production work. It's 
 going very well so far.

 I have a very simple and dumb question:

 is there any way to get the PD windows to be in reverse video?

 My eyes are killing me. I've got all my other apps set to grey text on 
 a black background to save my eyesight. It'd be great if there were 
 some hack I could use to get PD windows to be in reverse video too.

 My understanding is that PD uses TK, so there must be some way to do 
 this. Unfortunately, I don't know TK well enough to know how to do 
 this. Looking in PD docs I didn't find any mention of reversing the 
 video in PD windows.

 Thanks!


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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread altern
I think that www.delcorp.org is Pablo, the current maintainer of PDP and 
programmer of delVJ.


Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
 Great!!
 That is what I was looking for: http://delcorp.org/pdmanual_es/ !!!
 Is partially translated, but I can't enter to the CVS URL... do you know 
 who did it?
 
 Thanks,
 Natanael.
 
 
 El 04/09/2008 06:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
 If there is anything missing from this page, please add to it:

 http://puredata.info/docs

 .hc

 On Apr 9, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
 Something else that is started, but in it's initial phase is: 
 http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portada
 which would definitely benefit from your energy. Check past posts 
 about this for reference to what objects have already been translated...

 best,

 J

 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, altern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi

 there were some tutorials but i am not sure if the docs are
 translated.
 let me know if you get it done. i know some lazy spanish students
 that
 would be very happy to see that.

 enrike


 Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
  Hi all!
 
  I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish
 translation of the
  official Pd documentation.
  If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has no
  problem with that.
 
  And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)
 
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Best regards,
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[PD] arduino for servos, strings and messages of arbitrary length

2008-04-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I just finished up the sysex and string support in the Firmata  
library and the Pd [arduino] object.  I'd be interested in feedback,  
since I currently don't have a use for the string stuff.

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/Firmata%20with%20Pd.zip

Just drop the library into arduino-0011/hardware/libraries, and the  
example firmwares should show up under Open - Examples.  There are  
two firmwares that should control servos when you send the [pwm 
( message to the pin (it's rough).

This is an alpha release, so things could be rough.  There are some  
docs tho:

http://www.arduino.cc/playground/ComponentLib/Firmata

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Re: [PD] Reverse video in the PD editor?

2008-04-09 Thread Ken Restivo
Thanks. I went with grey for now. Not perfect but it's an improvement.

I'm not averse to editing the source code if you can list for me where in there 
I need to edit, or what to grep for.

-ken
-
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:00:06PM -0400, Martin Peach wrote:
 The vanilla pd.tk can be edited to set the canvas background colour.
 At line 914:
 canvas $name.c -width $width -height $height -background white \
 change white to something else.
 You can also edit proc pdtk_text_new to get coloured text, but lines are 
 not changeable in vanilla unless you modify the source code in about 5 
 separate places.
 
 Martin
 
 marius schebella wrote:
  sorry, the pd.tk where you can edit the color scheme easily ships with 
  pd-extended. I think it is compatible to pd vanilla, but not sure.
  marius.
  
  marius schebella wrote:
  hi,
  you can either set it in pd.tk (color scheme) or use hcs/sys_gui to do 
  it on the fly.
  marius.
 
  Ken Restivo wrote:
  I've been starting to use PD for some music production work. It's 
  going very well so far.
 
  I have a very simple and dumb question:
 
  is there any way to get the PD windows to be in reverse video?
 
  My eyes are killing me. I've got all my other apps set to grey text on 
  a black background to save my eyesight. It'd be great if there were 
  some hack I could use to get PD windows to be in reverse video too.
 
  My understanding is that PD uses TK, so there must be some way to do 
  this. Unfortunately, I don't know TK well enough to know how to do 
  this. Looking in PD docs I didn't find any mention of reversing the 
  video in PD windows.
 
  Thanks!
 
 
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Re: [PD] Spanish translation of Pd documentation

2008-04-09 Thread Jaime Oliver
Yes, that's the one i remembered seeing, i think. I am now wondering about
what oggro's was...
J

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:57 PM, altern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think that www.delcorp.org is Pablo, the current maintainer of PDP and
 programmer of delVJ.


 Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
  Great!!
  That is what I was looking for: http://delcorp.org/pdmanual_es/ !!!
  Is partially translated, but I can't enter to the CVS URL... do you know
  who did it?
 
  Thanks,
  Natanael.
 
 
  El 04/09/2008 06:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
  If there is anything missing from this page, please add to it:
 
  http://puredata.info/docs
 
  .hc
 
  On Apr 9, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
  Something else that is started, but in it's initial phase is:
  http://wiki.puredata.info/es/Portada
  which would definitely benefit from your energy. Check past posts
  about this for reference to what objects have already been
 translated...
 
  best,
 
  J
 
  On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, altern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hi
 
  there were some tutorials but i am not sure if the docs are
  translated.
  let me know if you get it done. i know some lazy spanish students
  that
  would be very happy to see that.
 
  enrike
 
 
  Natanael Olaiz(e)k dio:
   Hi all!
  
   I write to ask if someone knows if there is a spanish
  translation of the
   official Pd documentation.
   If not, I want to start to do it. I asked to Miller and he has
 no
   problem with that.
  
   And of course, if someone wants to help me is welcome. :)
  
  
   Thanks in advance.
  
   Best regards,
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[PD] A slightly more substantial question

2008-04-09 Thread Ken Restivo
I'm trying to create a PD application that'll be sync'ed to jack transport as a 
sort of master clock.

I found the jack_transport object, loaded it, and it runs. If I bang it 
regularly with a metro, I can see the current sample in jack transport. So far 
so good.

My question is about what'd be the most efficient/effective way to sync up a 
tabplay~ or tabread4~ object to the sample clock in jack transport. So far I've 
considered the following approaches:

1) Bang jack_transport with the output of a sig~ or phasor~ object, getting the 
clock from jack, and use that to hit tabread4~ (I don't know how I'd do this 
with tabplay~ though, and performance is an issue so if tabplay~ is cheaper I 
want to use it).

2) Bang jack_transport with the output of a metro every n milliseconds, and 
calculate what sample I'm supposed to be at in the tabread4~ or tabplay~ 
object, and just re-sync periodically if they drift. If they aren't ever 
going to drift (i.e. if PD's internal sample clock is sync'ed to JACK), then 
perhaps this resyncing will only happen at the start of playing, or perhaps I 
only need to do it then.

3) Or, maybe, let's say if I have a loop, I just need to bang the tabplay~ 
whenever the sample clock in jack_transport divided the number of samples in 
the loop is modulo 0. That'd be simplest and probably cheapest, but I don't 
know if the clocks will drift. Will they?

I dunno. I'm asking you guys when probably I should be asking the software 
instead, by just trying it out and determining empirically what works. But 
before I get too deep into it I'd like to get a second opinion on whether any 
of the above approaches will work or if there's some other technique I should 
be looking at. For some reason I suspect that this'll go really easily, but I 
want to make sure I'm not overlooking anything important.

Thanks.

-ken

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[PD] extended sql and py

2008-04-09 Thread Joseph Barrows
hi puredata'ers,
i want to use SQL access, and am confused as to how it get it to work, can
someone explain what i need to do?  it doesnt appear to be in the extended
build (just installed auto build for 10 april)
using ubuntu on an intel processor
am happy to download and compile source if needed, i just lose track of
where everything is supposed to go (and need many of the other bits of
extended and dont want to compile everything from source, though i spose i
could, ahh linux!)

also, py is listed in the extended help, but the examples dont work (the py
object is in a dotted line can not create object box)

thanks,
joseph


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