[PD] exporting PD patch part2
hi one more quick question. i wrote an animator in PD that reads graphics from files and animates it. any way of exporting that as a movie file or something? thanks. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rjdj using [netreceive]
Hi, On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 02:15:32PM -0500, sonia yuditskaya wrote: the [rj_http] object is actually not in the rjutils folder, or anywhere else I could find. Maybe this is still in development or something? [rj_http] is an external that would have to be compiled into the RjDj app on iThing. I am not sure ATM if it is part of the current RjDj app, and actually I doubt it: We had lots of issues and performance problems with it so I think, it was only available to some internal prototypes a year ago (when Chris was still hacking at RjDj). Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OT: asimuth in speaker
Hello, i was wondering if its possible to perceive azimuth with 2 speakers? Ive tried earplug but it just work with headphones, is it possible to create azimuth with speakers? If yes is there any library or object for this in pd? thanks in advance ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: asimuth in speaker
I've created the psychoacoustic effect of azimuth with Mid-Side recordings on stereo speakers before. Use traditional M/S panning: Mid = Center, L = + Side, Right = - Side, and add a samplewise delay to the Mid channel to elevate it in the sound field. I've never seen this trick discussed, but then again I'm not reading a lot of academic literature either. D. On 12/1/10 10:34 AM, ronni montoya wrote: Hello, i was wondering if its possible to perceive azimuth with 2 speakers? Ive tried earplug but it just work with headphones, is it possible to create azimuth with speakers? If yes is there any library or object for this in pd? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 24: Bridges -build -burn ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] firewirecamera in gem/pidip/next step
i have inserted the modules vloopback, videodevcoriander is neither complaining anymore about misseng etc/video0 nor avout missing v2l anymore. and its running V4L output device /etc/video0 sofarsonice by the way...i use GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' and PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PD version 0.12.23 if i try pdp_v4l2 console says pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video0 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video0: Device or resource busy pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video1 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video1: Invalid argument get capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device Gem pix_video video driver 0: video4linux video driver 1: ieee1394 for linux pd bash error: failed opening device: '/dev/video0' console says /dev/video0: Device or resource busy if i try video driver 1 gem is telling me /dev/dv1394/0: No such file or directory console detto...wich is not a wonder, since i just have /dev/video1394 and no /dev/dv1394 any ideas? markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] exporting PD patch part2
was it made with Gem ? I use pix_write to export a series of tiff of a Gem animation and then join them together to create a movie file- but this is a long method, do have a look at pix_record which may be better On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:38 AM, 2bad4...@london.com wrote: hi one more quick question. i wrote an animator in PD that reads graphics from files and animates it. any way of exporting that as a movie file or something? thanks. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] readanysf~ buzzing problem
Quoth august, on 30/11/10 16:27: ok, this smells like a memory leak to me. Not going to be easy to find. Do you have other externals loaded at the same time? If so, try re-running my stress patch with no other libs or externals loaded. thanks -august. ok I downloaded Pd-vanilla 0.42-6 from puredata.info and ran the patch. It took about 10 mins, but eventually there were a couple of buzzes. No libs or other externals, just pd-vanilla 0.42-6 with readanysf~ running your stress patch. James ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] firewirecamera in gem/pidip/next step
Zitat von bra...@subnet.at: i have inserted the modules vloopback, videodevcoriander is neither complaining anymore about misseng etc/video0 nor avout missing v2l anymore. and its running V4L output device /etc/video0 sofarsonice by the way...i use GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' and PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PD version 0.12.23 if i try pdp_v4l2 console says pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video0 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video0: Device or resource busy pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video1 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video1: Invalid argument get capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device /dev/video0: No such file or directory /dev/video3: Device or resource busy /dev/video2: No such file or directory get capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device (when i do video1) /dev/video0: No such file or directory Gem pix_video video driver 0: video4linux video driver 1: ieee1394 for linux pd bash error: failed opening device: '/dev/video0' console says /dev/video0: Device or resource busy if i try video driver 1 gem is telling me /dev/dv1394/0: No such file or directory console detto...wich is not a wonder, since i just have /dev/video1394 and no /dev/dv1394 any ideas? markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] firewirecamera in gem/pidip/next step
Hi, If I'm not worng vloopback module create a third (or a forth...) video device. So try to open /dev/video2 or /dev/video3 husk On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 AM, bra...@subnet.at wrote: i have inserted the modules vloopback, videodevcoriander is neither complaining anymore about misseng etc/video0 nor avout missing v2l anymore. and its running V4L output device /etc/video0 sofarsonice by the way...i use GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' and PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PD version 0.12.23 if i try pdp_v4l2 console says pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video0 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video0: Device or resource busy pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video1 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video1: Invalid argument get capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device Gem pix_video video driver 0: video4linux video driver 1: ieee1394 for linux pd bash error: failed opening device: '/dev/video0' console says /dev/video0: Device or resource busy if i try video driver 1 gem is telling me /dev/dv1394/0: No such file or directory console detto...wich is not a wonder, since i just have /dev/video1394 and no /dev/dv1394 any ideas? markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- when Art become pratical we call it technology. When Technology become useless we call it Art www.estereotips.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] firewirecamera in gem/pidip/next step
hi husk 00 vloopback is using as input 0 and its output 1 if i try to do pdp_v4l and set to dev 1 i get the following error get capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device cheers markus Zitat von Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com: Hi, If I'm not worng vloopback module create a third (or a forth...) video device. So try to open /dev/video2 or /dev/video3 husk On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 AM, bra...@subnet.at wrote: i have inserted the modules vloopback, videodevcoriander is neither complaining anymore about misseng etc/video0 nor avout missing v2l anymore. and its running V4L output device /etc/video0 sofarsonice by the way...i use GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' and PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PD version 0.12.23 if i try pdp_v4l2 console says pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video0 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video0: Device or resource busy pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video1 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video1: Invalid argument get capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device Gem pix_video video driver 0: video4linux video driver 1: ieee1394 for linux pd bash error: failed opening device: '/dev/video0' console says /dev/video0: Device or resource busy if i try video driver 1 gem is telling me /dev/dv1394/0: No such file or directory console detto...wich is not a wonder, since i just have /dev/video1394 and no /dev/dv1394 any ideas? markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- when Art become pratical we call it technology. When Technology become useless we call it Art www.estereotips.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] firewirecamera in gem/pidip/next step
On 2010-12-01 11:10, bra...@subnet.at wrote: i have inserted the modules vloopback, videodevcoriander is neither complaining anymore about misseng etc/video0 nor avout missing v2l anymore. and its running V4L output device /etc/video0 sofarsonice by the way...i use GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' and PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PD version 0.12.23 if i try pdp_v4l2 console says pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video0 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video0: Device or resource busy well, i thought i was quite clear that vloopback would make the first device the input (sink) device, and the 2nd device the output (src) device, so try /dev/video1 pdp_v4l2: opening /dev/video1 pdp_v4l2: error: open /dev/video1: Invalid argument get capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device well, i thought i was quite clear that this solution involves v4l1(!), thus pdp_v4l2 will bail out, as it needs a v4l2 device. try [pdp_v4l] Gem pix_video video driver 0: video4linux video driver 1: ieee1394 for linux pd bash error: failed opening device: '/dev/video0' console says /dev/video0: Device or resource busy again, /dev/video0 is the sink, you need /dev/video1 if i try video driver 1 gem is telling me /dev/dv1394/0: No such file or directory console detto...wich is not a wonder, since i just have /dev/video1394 and no /dev/dv1394 well driver 1 changes the driver to the dv4l (ieee1394). you don't want to change the driver (the default is video4linux, which is just what you need), you want to change the device. use device /dev/video1 if you still cannot open the device with neither application, you might want to switch to one of my other suggestions (which were both favoured over the one you chose) ghmst IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] non-logical receives
Hello, you could use dynamic patching or use the dynamic send/recieves from mmb (which use dynamic patching). You can find them in the pd forum somewhere in the abstractions section. If I remember right. Greetings - Am 26.11.2010 23:47, schrieb Andrew Faraday: Hey All This might be a simple problem, but I can't see a way around it. I'm making a patch involving a grid of toggles (each in an abstraction, so they can have rules to control them individually, also to relay this grid to a grid of squares in gem). Basically I've already set up [s $1-$2-state], in each to send it's position to a named bus. I've also got r $1-$2-control to control each toggle remotely, but that's aside. I can use messages and non-logical sends to generate control messages, like so: [pack f f f] | [$1-$2-control $3 ( Which can change any of the toggles on my grid. So far, all well and good. == However == What I really need is for each abstraction to be 'aware' of it's neighbors. So while each one has two arguments, (it's co-ordinates on the grid), I need them to have receives based on it's arguments and some arithmetic. I could generate the right string for this like [$1] [$2] | | [+ 1] [+ 1] | | [pack f f] | [$1-$2-state( But I don't know of an object I can set like this. I can't find a receive which can be set with a message (in the same way that the non-logical sends can be made in a message box, it's all very perplexing). As ever, help would be appreciated Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs
Hans (and others who may know the answer to the following question), I've tried using default.pdextended included in the ~/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder in conjunction with the latest build of pd-extended (built from scratch) for auto-loading some of the libs and found that some of the newly recompiled externals report errors as follows: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Dec 1 2010 at 03:11:55 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended-20101201 GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Dec 1 2010 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: MMX GEM: using MMX optimization libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path pddp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path pixeltango: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path rradical: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path vbap - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006 (Pd port by HCS) libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path jmmmp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( email omitted ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4 by Yves Degoyon (email omitted) Lluis Gomez i Bigorda (email omitted) Namely, items in question include: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library ./markex/markex.pd_linux: ./markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library pixeltango: can't load library rradical: can't load library jmmmp: can't load library default.pdextended looks as follows: standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags: loadlib1: libdir loadlib2: Gem loadlib3: cyclone loadlib4: zexy loadlib5: creb loadlib6: cxc loadlib7: iemlib loadlib8: list-abs loadlib9: mapping loadlib10: markex loadlib11: maxlib loadlib12: memento loadlib13: mjlib loadlib14: motex loadlib15: oscx loadlib16: pddp loadlib17: pdogg loadlib18: pixeltango loadlib19: pmpd loadlib20: rradical loadlib21: sigpack loadlib22: smlib loadlib23: toxy loadlib24: unauthorized loadlib25: vbap loadlib26: pan loadlib27: hcs loadlib28: jmmmp loadlib29: ext13 loadlib30: ggee loadlib31: iem_anything loadlib32: flib loadlib33: ekext loadlib34: flatspace loadlib35: pdp loadlib36: pidip nloadlib: 36 path1: /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType npath: 1 Interestingly cxc's object that throws unknown symbol as part of lib opens just fine and behaves (AFAIK) as expected. Also, FWIW, these compiled without a hitch on 0.42.5 extended. So, I guess my question is, is the latest pd-extended meant
Re: [PD] default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs
For something like list-abs, with only abstractions, its just a question of getting the files in the right place. Look at the Pd-extended release for an example. For the can't find symbol errors, looks like those objects weren't built properly. Looks like you also threw in a markex.pd_linux and cxc.pd_linux, which Pd-extended does not. .hc On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:16 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Hans (and others who may know the answer to the following question), I've tried using default.pdextended included in the ~/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder in conjunction with the latest build of pd-extended (built from scratch) for auto-loading some of the libs and found that some of the newly recompiled externals report errors as follows: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Dec 1 2010 at 03:11:55 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended-20101201 GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Dec 1 2010 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: MMX GEM: using MMX optimization libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path pddp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path pixeltango: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path rradical: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path vbap - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006 (Pd port by HCS) libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path jmmmp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( email omitted ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4 by Yves Degoyon (email omitted) Lluis Gomez i Bigorda (email omitted) Namely, items in question include: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library ./markex/markex.pd_linux: ./markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library pixeltango: can't load library rradical: can't load library jmmmp: can't load library default.pdextended looks as follows: standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags: loadlib1: libdir loadlib2: Gem loadlib3: cyclone loadlib4: zexy loadlib5: creb loadlib6: cxc loadlib7: iemlib loadlib8: list-abs loadlib9: mapping loadlib10: markex loadlib11: maxlib loadlib12: memento loadlib13: mjlib loadlib14: motex loadlib15: oscx loadlib16: pddp loadlib17: pdogg loadlib18: pixeltango loadlib19: pmpd loadlib20: rradical loadlib21: sigpack loadlib22: smlib loadlib23: toxy loadlib24: unauthorized
Re: [PD] readanysf~ buzzing problem
ok I downloaded Pd-vanilla 0.42-6 from puredata.info and ran the patch. It took about 10 mins, but eventually there were a couple of buzzes. No libs or other externals, just pd-vanilla 0.42-6 with readanysf~ running your stress patch. yeah, I heard it once too.not sure yet what is causing it. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New user - technical questions
I am starting with Pd and have some questions: - does Pd support multi-threading? maybe someone else could answer this one in depth, i know that tim blechmann has worked on a fork which does this I'm interested in multi-threading inside pd, i.e..: could an external be compiled with openMP and have parallelization. Where can I find this? Best regards, Pedro On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:06 PM, tim vets wrote: 2010/11/30 Xavier Miller xavier.mil...@cauwe.org Hello, greetings from Belgium, I am starting with Pd and have some questions: - does Pd support multi-threading? If not, is it possible to launch many Pd instances and sync them? take a look at the [pd~] object or you can simply run multiple pd instances and send messages between them... - can Pd dynamically change its patches without stopping the engine? Can Pd unload some objects, open other patches, connect them? Yes, though you have to take care a bit. If you load huge files or create or delete many tilde objects, the dsp engine may be interrupted. look at dynamic patching, or 'pd-msg' stuff - can Pd run without GUI, even without X support? yes, do pd -nogui, don't know if you have to have X running though, I suppose not? - can Pd be embedded in an application, and controlled programmatically? (if not, I can use OSC) We are using pd as a soundengine for a game development project. ( cityinabottle.org ) The main program is python and pd is running in the background (-nogui) with OSC communication. That sounds very interesting, I'd love to hear more about it! .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New user - technical questions
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010, Pedro Lopes wrote: i know that tim blechmann has worked on a fork Wasn't this not part of a fork, but a pair of object classes, one of which may have been called [fork] ? Totally different use of the word. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs
These are however included in the example default.pdsettings inside of the packages/linux_make folder. Hence my confusion. So, where is the official default.pdsettings then located? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: For something like list-abs, with only abstractions, its just a question of getting the files in the right place. Look at the Pd-extended release for an example. For the can't find symbol errors, looks like those objects weren't built properly. Looks like you also threw in a markex.pd_linux and cxc.pd_linux, which Pd-extended does not. .hc On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:16 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Hans (and others who may know the answer to the following question), I've tried using default.pdextended included in the ~/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder in conjunction with the latest build of pd-extended (built from scratch) for auto-loading some of the libs and found that some of the newly recompiled externals report errors as follows: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Dec 1 2010 at 03:11:55 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended-20101201 GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Dec 1 2010 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: MMX GEM: using MMX optimization libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path pddp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path pixeltango: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path rradical: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path vbap - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006 (Pd port by HCS) libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path jmmmp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( email omitted ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4 by Yves Degoyon (email omitted) Lluis Gomez i Bigorda (email omitted) Namely, items in question include: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library ./markex/markex.pd_linux: ./markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library pixeltango: can't load library rradical: can't load library jmmmp: can't load library default.pdextended looks as follows: standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags: loadlib1: libdir loadlib2: Gem loadlib3: cyclone loadlib4: zexy loadlib5: creb loadlib6: cxc loadlib7: iemlib loadlib8: list-abs loadlib9: mapping loadlib10: markex loadlib11: maxlib loadlib12: memento loadlib13
Re: [PD] Setting tempo via microphone input (eg audience clapping)
Very easy to do (i did a similar thing , where I used a microphone to create gestures to control an multitouch DJ application, see a small paper in [1] ). In my approach I used gesture templates, but since all you want is tapping (or claping) you are just looking for peaks in amplitude analysis. So: mic - pd - attack detection - hit a bang that will set the tempo - compute tempo in BPM - build an OSC message and ship it to a port, where the ardour/DAW will listen. Now attack detection in PD can be performed in various ways, one cool way is to use bonk~ to detect attacks (see Miller's paper in [2]) or on a simpler level you can analyse the signal manually with env~. Computing the tempo is very easy, you just need to measure the time between to bangs. And convert that to BPM (beats per minute, thus 60 seconds). There's a patch here in the list that does that, I remember talking about that here. The final stage is simple, Sending the OSC message, just see the help patch of the packOSC and other OSC-related externals, they supply examples. Also João Pais, has so nice information on controlling Ardour via pd in here [3] and he has a patch for it. About building and shipping the OSC message [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7329207/PedroLopesDTW-based_RecOPad2010.pdf [2] http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/icmc98.pdf [3] http://puredata.info/Members/jmmmp hope this helps, Pedro On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Paul Winchester pw...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi All, I am working on a project in which I would like to have the tempo of a DAW (Ableton, FL Studio, etc) set by the clapping of an audience. Not sure how to approach tackling the problem. Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs
You have the right source for that file, packages/linux_make. But I don't think your problems below have anything to do with that file, rather how the libraries were built and installed. .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: These are however included in the example default.pdsettings inside of the packages/linux_make folder. Hence my confusion. So, where is the official default.pdsettings then located? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: For something like list-abs, with only abstractions, its just a question of getting the files in the right place. Look at the Pd-extended release for an example. For the can't find symbol errors, looks like those objects weren't built properly. Looks like you also threw in a markex.pd_linux and cxc.pd_linux, which Pd-extended does not. .hc On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:16 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Hans (and others who may know the answer to the following question), I've tried using default.pdextended included in the ~/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder in conjunction with the latest build of pd-extended (built from scratch) for auto-loading some of the libs and found that some of the newly recompiled externals report errors as follows: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Dec 1 2010 at 03:11:55 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended-20101201 GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Dec 1 2010 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: MMX GEM: using MMX optimization libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path pddp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path pixeltango: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path rradical: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path vbap - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006 (Pd port by HCS) libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path jmmmp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( email omitted ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4 by Yves Degoyon (email omitted) Lluis Gomez i Bigorda (email omitted) Namely, items in question include: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library ./markex/markex.pd_linux: ./markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library pixeltango: can't load library rradical: can't load library jmmmp: can't load library default.pdextended looks as follows: standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags: loadlib1: libdir loadlib2
Re: [PD] New user - technical questions
Anyway, where are those [fork]s? I'm hungry! (sorry for the bad joke) On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Wed, 1 Dec 2010, Pedro Lopes wrote: i know that tim blechmann has worked on a fork Wasn't this not part of a fork, but a pair of object classes, one of which may have been called [fork] ? Totally different use of the word. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New user - technical questions
On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Pedro Lopes wrote: I am starting with Pd and have some questions: - does Pd support multi-threading? maybe someone else could answer this one in depth, i know that tim blechmann has worked on a fork which does this I'm interested in multi-threading inside pd, i.e..: could an external be compiled with openMP and have parallelization. Where can I find this? Parallelization is built into Pd, just put down objects, and they will run in parallel. Granted, Pd doesn't use threads to implement the parallelization because it aims to be completely deterministic (basically, that means a patch run exactly the same everytime). Its difficult to write a deterministic program using standard threads. It sounds to me that you have a solution in your head looking for a problem, perhaps you could start with the problem? .hc On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:06 PM, tim vets wrote: 2010/11/30 Xavier Miller xavier.mil...@cauwe.org Hello, greetings from Belgium, I am starting with Pd and have some questions: - does Pd support multi-threading? If not, is it possible to launch many Pd instances and sync them? take a look at the [pd~] object or you can simply run multiple pd instances and send messages between them... - can Pd dynamically change its patches without stopping the engine? Can Pd unload some objects, open other patches, connect them? Yes, though you have to take care a bit. If you load huge files or create or delete many tilde objects, the dsp engine may be interrupted. look at dynamic patching, or 'pd-msg' stuff - can Pd run without GUI, even without X support? yes, do pd -nogui, don't know if you have to have X running though, I suppose not? - can Pd be embedded in an application, and controlled programmatically? (if not, I can use OSC) We are using pd as a soundengine for a game development project. ( cityinabottle.org ) The main program is python and pd is running in the background (- nogui) with OSC communication. That sounds very interesting, I'd love to hear more about it! .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. - Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New user - technical questions
Its difficult to write a deterministic program using standard threads. I know, it's difficult to achieve regular results when you depend on processor scheduling :) It sounds to me that you have a solution in your head looking for a problem, perhaps you could start with the problem? You are right Hans, I can explain better :) background_story Well I was messing around with DTW implementation, I already have my external working for PD (which I used in [1]) and will be available to everyone when I have some quality free time for it (its so much hardcoded right now, it sucks). /background_story During that I realized I could implement it in parallel via OpenMP, but tried to compile the code with some openMP directives and it did not work for the pd_external, it seemed that PD could not handle it somehow[2]. So what I wanted was an object to be parallel by itself. Not a series of different objects. Does anyone ever made an external that itself uses openMP? Best regards, Pedro [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7329207/PedroLopesDTW-based_RecOPad2010.pdf [2] note: my know how of pd internal's is very very limited. -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] msd-editor
Hey Nicolas, Thanks for that. I will check it out later. Regards, Julian On 1 December 2010 14:10, Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.frwrote: Hello, You can still find it in the svn here: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/nusmuk/msd/editor/ you can download a tarball down the page but it's been a while i haven't tested it. If you don't have the binaries, the easier is to download them from thomas grill's website (thanks thomas): http://g.org/ext/beta/ msd2D is required for the editor. n Le 01/12/10 14:48, J bz a écrit : Hi All, Is msd-editor dead? Can't seem to find it anywhere now that I have finally got round to wanting to check it out. Cheers, Julian ___pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://nim.on.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
Hey all, I'm working on composing a piece within pd for viola in which I would like to attach some kind of sensor to the head of the instrument. The sensor must be capable of tracking the performers movements on the x,y,z axis', be undetectable for the performer, and be wireless. I'm not sure whether something arduino or some sort of bluetooth device would be preferable? Would be very grateful if any listers have any experience in these matters and could recommend some devices, pointers of things to watch out for (bluetooth in concert venues for example), general sturdiness of various items, etc. Many thanks, and best wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs
However the cxc library and markex are a part of the default.pdextended file provided in the packages/linux_make dir which means that they are apparently a part of pd-extended, yet they fail to build properly using default build scripts. So are they a part of pd-extended or not? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: You have the right source for that file, packages/linux_make. But I don't think your problems below have anything to do with that file, rather how the libraries were built and installed. .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: These are however included in the example default.pdsettings inside of the packages/linux_make folder. Hence my confusion. So, where is the official default.pdsettings then located? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: For something like list-abs, with only abstractions, its just a question of getting the files in the right place. Look at the Pd-extended release for an example. For the can't find symbol errors, looks like those objects weren't built properly. Looks like you also threw in a markex.pd_linux and cxc.pd_linux, which Pd-extended does not. .hc On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:16 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Hans (and others who may know the answer to the following question), I've tried using default.pdextended included in the ~/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder in conjunction with the latest build of pd-extended (built from scratch) for auto-loading some of the libs and found that some of the newly recompiled externals report errors as follows: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Dec 1 2010 at 03:11:55 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended-20101201 GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Dec 1 2010 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: MMX GEM: using MMX optimization libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path pddp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path pixeltango: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path rradical: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path vbap - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006 (Pd port by HCS) libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path jmmmp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( email omitted ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4 by Yves Degoyon (email omitted) Lluis Gomez i Bigorda (email omitted) Namely, items in question include: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: ./cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path list-abs
Re: [PD] default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs
They are part of pd-extended, and they build properly on the build machines. Check the nightly builds for more info: http://autobuild.puredata.info/ .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: However the cxc library and markex are a part of the default.pdextended file provided in the packages/linux_make dir which means that they are apparently a part of pd-extended, yet they fail to build properly using default build scripts. So are they a part of pd-extended or not? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: You have the right source for that file, packages/linux_make. But I don't think your problems below have anything to do with that file, rather how the libraries were built and installed. .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: These are however included in the example default.pdsettings inside of the packages/linux_make folder. Hence my confusion. So, where is the official default.pdsettings then located? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: For something like list-abs, with only abstractions, its just a question of getting the files in the right place. Look at the Pd-extended release for an example. For the can't find symbol errors, looks like those objects weren't built properly. Looks like you also threw in a markex.pd_linux and cxc.pd_linux, which Pd-extended does not. .hc On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:16 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Hans (and others who may know the answer to the following question), I've tried using default.pdextended included in the ~/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder in conjunction with the latest build of pd-extended (built from scratch) for auto-loading some of the libs and found that some of the newly recompiled externals report errors as follows: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Dec 1 2010 at 03:11:55 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended-20101201 GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Dec 1 2010 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: MMX GEM: using MMX optimization libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path pddp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path pixeltango: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path rradical: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path vbap - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006 (Pd port by HCS) libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path jmmmp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( email omitted ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4 by Yves Degoyon (email omitted) Lluis Gomez i Bigorda (email omitted) Namely, items in question include
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
First off, don't expect perfect results, that'll set you up for failure. Sounds like you want an accelerometer for x/y/z acceleration, and for position, you'll need to add something like a gyro or the wii controller's infrared camera tracking the light bar. Perhaps the Wii controller would be a good place for you to start? .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:57 PM, J bz wrote: Hey all, I'm working on composing a piece within pd for viola in which I would like to attach some kind of sensor to the head of the instrument. The sensor must be capable of tracking the performers movements on the x,y,z axis', be undetectable for the performer, and be wireless. I'm not sure whether something arduino or some sort of bluetooth device would be preferable? Would be very grateful if any listers have any experience in these matters and could recommend some devices, pointers of things to watch out for (bluetooth in concert venues for example), general sturdiness of various items, etc. Many thanks, and best wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
As hans said, the wii is very good for starting up sensor/accel projects. Although when you need better data the wii will not provide, so don't raise much expectations. At my research lab we work with accel+magnetometer to correct the values, anyhow it is now wireless for now, which is a major disadvantage of the current setup. The previous one was a wireless accelerometer-based from Plux (http://www.plux.info/) with a C++ API. Best of luck, Pedro -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
Hi, i connected pd with arduino and adxl330, works fine, in order to wireless i prefer arduino bluetooth, the only thing to do is change the baud for default the in firmata is 57600, in my experience only works if you change to 115200 (in the standard firmata arduino sketch,and the arduino monitor). If you have problems i can help you, i send a youtube video , pd+arduino+processing+osc wired...but arduino bluetooth or bluetooth shield for Arduino is the solution. http://www.youtube.com/user/santorcuato76#p/u/1/SM4Un76LB90 Best regrads from Chile José 2010/12/1 J bz jbee...@gmail.com Hey all, I'm working on composing a piece within pd for viola in which I would like to attach some kind of sensor to the head of the instrument. The sensor must be capable of tracking the performers movements on the x,y,z axis', be undetectable for the performer, and be wireless. I'm not sure whether something arduino or some sort of bluetooth device would be preferable? Would be very grateful if any listers have any experience in these matters and could recommend some devices, pointers of things to watch out for (bluetooth in concert venues for example), general sturdiness of various items, etc. Many thanks, and best wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Hijacking Treads (Was: Re: path problem)
Hi Ico, if you want to post a new question to the Pd list please compose a new message to pd-list@iem.at rather than taking a random email from the list which you reply and then change the subject. It destroys the thread view, making the archive a mess and it's inconvenient when trying to follow a discussion. It is also a part of the netiquette which you accepted when joining this list http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette#Threads m. Am 01.12.2010 um 01:12 schrieb Ivica Ico Bukvic: Hans, Could you please let me know what may have been changed in pd-extended 0.42.x version over the past year that may have fixed the path bug I am currently experiencing as I cannot find anything differing between l2ork version and vanilla pd-extended that would explain why pd-extended finds those and l2ork doesn't. Even a simple pointer will undoubtedly save me tons of time. Thanks! Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
Maybe it's worth mentioning that you can also work the other way round: mount a small IR LED on the head of the instrument and track its motion with a wiimote mounted statically in front of it. I used this once for tracking a remote controlled robot and it worked fairly well. I guess that success will also depend on the type of movements the musician will make. The IR LED would need to stay directed to the wiimote all the times. Also make the LED as omnidirectional as possible... Tim 2010/12/1 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Hi, i connected pd with arduino and adxl330, works fine, in order to wireless i prefer arduino bluetooth, the only thing to do is change the baud for default the in firmata is 57600, in my experience only works if you change to 115200 (in the standard firmata arduino sketch,and the arduino monitor). If you have problems i can help you, i send a youtube video , pd+arduino+processing+osc wired...but arduino bluetooth or bluetooth shield for Arduino is the solution. http://www.youtube.com/user/santorcuato76#p/u/1/SM4Un76LB90 Best regrads from Chile José 2010/12/1 J bz jbee...@gmail.com Hey all, I'm working on composing a piece within pd for viola in which I would like to attach some kind of sensor to the head of the instrument. The sensor must be capable of tracking the performers movements on the x,y,z axis', be undetectable for the performer, and be wireless. I'm not sure whether something arduino or some sort of bluetooth device would be preferable? Would be very grateful if any listers have any experience in these matters and could recommend some devices, pointers of things to watch out for (bluetooth in concert venues for example), general sturdiness of various items, etc. Many thanks, and best wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New user - technical questions
In my case : I will need to build a dedicated machine running Pd. If Pd doesn't support multi-threading, it would be nonsense to buy an octocore system. Xavier. Le 01/12/10 18:19, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Pedro Lopes wrote: It sounds to me that you have a solution in your head looking for a problem, perhaps you could start with the problem? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs
Okay this helps. thanks a lot for your answer. Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: They are part of pd-extended, and they build properly on the build machines. Check the nightly builds for more info: http://autobuild.puredata.info/ .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: However the cxc library and markex are a part of the default.pdextended file provided in the packages/linux_make dir which means that they are apparently a part of pd-extended, yet they fail to build properly using default build scripts. So are they a part of pd-extended or not? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: You have the right source for that file, packages/linux_make. But I don't think your problems below have anything to do with that file, rather how the libraries were built and installed. .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: These are however included in the example default.pdsettings inside of the packages/linux_make folder. Hence my confusion. So, where is the official default.pdsettings then located? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: For something like list-abs, with only abstractions, its just a question of getting the files in the right place. Look at the Pd-extended release for an example. For the can't find symbol errors, looks like those objects weren't built properly. Looks like you also threw in a markex.pd_linux and cxc.pd_linux, which Pd-extended does not. .hc On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:16 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Hans (and others who may know the answer to the following question), I've tried using default.pdextended included in the ~/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder in conjunction with the latest build of pd-extended (built from scratch) for auto-loading some of the libs and found that some of the newly recompiled externals report errors as follows: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Dec 1 2010 at 03:11:55 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended-20101201 GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Dec 1 2010 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: MMX GEM: using MMX optimization libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path memento: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path pddp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path pixeltango: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path rradical: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path vbap - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006 (Pd port by HCS) libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path jmmmp: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
Tracking in that sense requires you to have gear that is in visible line of sight to the musician. If its a concert situation maybe that's not easy. But its a way to go. Note that will not produce good tridimensional tracking results, one could use a kinect too. If we want to hyper extrapolate, if the concert is in a controlled room, you can use 3D IR tracking system, such as used for mocap. Real expensive but really accurate. :) Best luck, Pedro On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:01 PM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's worth mentioning that you can also work the other way round: mount a small IR LED on the head of the instrument and track its motion with a wiimote mounted statically in front of it. I used this once for tracking a remote controlled robot and it worked fairly well. I guess that success will also depend on the type of movements the musician will make. The IR LED would need to stay directed to the wiimote all the times. Also make the LED as omnidirectional as possible... Tim 2010/12/1 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Hi, i connected pd with arduino and adxl330, works fine, in order to wireless i prefer arduino bluetooth, the only thing to do is change the baud for default the in firmata is 57600, in my experience only works if you change to 115200 (in the standard firmata arduino sketch,and the arduino monitor). If you have problems i can help you, i send a youtube video , pd+arduino+processing+osc wired...but arduino bluetooth or bluetooth shield for Arduino is the solution. http://www.youtube.com/user/santorcuato76#p/u/1/SM4Un76LB90 Best regrads from Chile José 2010/12/1 J bz jbee...@gmail.com Hey all, I'm working on composing a piece within pd for viola in which I would like to attach some kind of sensor to the head of the instrument. The sensor must be capable of tracking the performers movements on the x,y,z axis', be undetectable for the performer, and be wireless. I'm not sure whether something arduino or some sort of bluetooth device would be preferable? Would be very grateful if any listers have any experience in these matters and could recommend some devices, pointers of things to watch out for (bluetooth in concert venues for example), general sturdiness of various items, etc. Many thanks, and best wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Showcasing PD
Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
Yeap, and talk NERDY ;) On 1 December 2010 22:33, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd~ gives error
hello installed pd-extended for ubuntu karmic opened pd~ help clicked on first message box: pd~ version 0.2 error: pd~: can't stat /usr/lib/pd-extended/pd indeed there's no pd in this folder? do i have to put it there myself? rolf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New user - technical questions
An 8-core system would not do much for normal Pd patches. Try pd~, then you can have a pd-instance per core in a single patch. .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Xavier Miller wrote: In my case : I will need to build a dedicated machine running Pd. If Pd doesn't support multi-threading, it would be nonsense to buy an octocore system. Xavier. Le 01/12/10 18:19, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Pedro Lopes wrote: It sounds to me that you have a solution in your head looking for a problem, perhaps you could start with the problem? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
Wii data really doesn't work for me. Although perhaps with a few led's it'd rekindle my interest. Incidentally, either I don't have a fast enough machine for VJing or I've not found the right library/objects. What's the way forward on that? From: geoker...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:47:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [PD] Showcasing PD To: p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu CC: jbtur...@hotmail.com; pd-list@iem.at Yeap, and talk NERDY ;) On 1 December 2010 22:33, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
I'm a big fan of starting from very little and building a ring modulator, step-by-step, as I did in this talk: http://vimeo.com/5479982 .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote: Wii data really doesn't work for me. Although perhaps with a few led's it'd rekindle my interest. Incidentally, either I don't have a fast enough machine for VJing or I've not found the right library/objects. What's the way forward on that? From: geoker...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:47:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [PD] Showcasing PD To: p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu CC: jbtur...@hotmail.com; pd-list@iem.at Yeap, and talk NERDY ;) On 1 December 2010 22:33, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. - Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
What works really well with absolute beginners is the ring mod applied between [adc~] and [dac~], so everyone ends up shouting I am a robot! Exterminate! into their mic. Guaranteed geekfest. On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:26:51 -0500 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I'm a big fan of starting from very little and building a ring modulator, step-by-step, as I did in this talk: http://vimeo.com/5479982 .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote: Wii data really doesn't work for me. Although perhaps with a few led's it'd rekindle my interest. Incidentally, either I don't have a fast enough machine for VJing or I've not found the right library/objects. What's the way forward on that? From: geoker...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:47:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [PD] Showcasing PD To: p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu CC: jbtur...@hotmail.com; pd-list@iem.at Yeap, and talk NERDY ;) On 1 December 2010 22:33, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. - Admiral Gene LeRocque -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
40 mins video :) Nice Hans. p.s.: this is a VERY good vimeo channel. thanks for the pointer. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: I'm a big fan of starting from very little and building a ring modulator, step-by-step, as I did in this talk: http://vimeo.com/5479982 .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote: Wii data really doesn't work for me. Although perhaps with a few led's it'd rekindle my interest. Incidentally, either I don't have a fast enough machine for VJing or I've not found the right library/objects. What's the way forward on that? -- From: geoker...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:47:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [PD] Showcasing PD To: p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu CC: jbtur...@hotmail.com; pd-list@iem.at Yeap, and talk NERDY ;) On 1 December 2010 22:33, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
Hey all, I love this list:) I had thought about wiimotes but I think they are too cumbersome, visible and heavy. I would like the instrumentalist to not have to be aware that they are connected to anything. The point of the tracking is to use the performers involuntary movement as input data for the pd patch, so I would like for them to be as un-selfconscious as possible. I have heard that there are problems with bluetooth in concert situations, although the feedback I have just received from you guys seems inconclusive? Although this is in a university setting for the 1st performance, I'm also really keen that this can be portable and as inexpensive as I can make it, thus hopefully allowing the piece to have a life outside of academia. This would prohibit going down any super-complex routes. I think I would be more comfortable not having to rely on the sensor being in the line of sight too, sounds scary. Brilliant feedback so far though, thanks a lot, I have plenty to get on with. I will, no doubt, be reporting back soon... Cheers, Jb On 1 December 2010 20:23, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: Tracking in that sense requires you to have gear that is in visible line of sight to the musician. If its a concert situation maybe that's not easy. But its a way to go. Note that will not produce good tridimensional tracking results, one could use a kinect too. If we want to hyper extrapolate, if the concert is in a controlled room, you can use 3D IR tracking system, such as used for mocap. Real expensive but really accurate. :) Best luck, Pedro On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:01 PM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's worth mentioning that you can also work the other way round: mount a small IR LED on the head of the instrument and track its motion with a wiimote mounted statically in front of it. I used this once for tracking a remote controlled robot and it worked fairly well. I guess that success will also depend on the type of movements the musician will make. The IR LED would need to stay directed to the wiimote all the times. Also make the LED as omnidirectional as possible... Tim 2010/12/1 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Hi, i connected pd with arduino and adxl330, works fine, in order to wireless i prefer arduino bluetooth, the only thing to do is change the baud for default the in firmata is 57600, in my experience only works if you change to 115200 (in the standard firmata arduino sketch,and the arduino monitor). If you have problems i can help you, i send a youtube video , pd+arduino+processing+osc wired...but arduino bluetooth or bluetooth shield for Arduino is the solution. http://www.youtube.com/user/santorcuato76#p/u/1/SM4Un76LB90 Best regrads from Chile José 2010/12/1 J bz jbee...@gmail.com Hey all, I'm working on composing a piece within pd for viola in which I would like to attach some kind of sensor to the head of the instrument. The sensor must be capable of tracking the performers movements on the x,y,z axis', be undetectable for the performer, and be wireless. I'm not sure whether something arduino or some sort of bluetooth device would be preferable? Would be very grateful if any listers have any experience in these matters and could recommend some devices, pointers of things to watch out for (bluetooth in concert venues for example), general sturdiness of various items, etc. Many thanks, and best wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
The circuit boards inside of wii remotes are much smaller and lighter, then you can use whatever battery gives you about ~3V. .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:54 PM, J bz wrote: Hey all, I love this list:) I had thought about wiimotes but I think they are too cumbersome, visible and heavy. I would like the instrumentalist to not have to be aware that they are connected to anything. The point of the tracking is to use the performers involuntary movement as input data for the pd patch, so I would like for them to be as un-selfconscious as possible. I have heard that there are problems with bluetooth in concert situations, although the feedback I have just received from you guys seems inconclusive? Although this is in a university setting for the 1st performance, I'm also really keen that this can be portable and as inexpensive as I can make it, thus hopefully allowing the piece to have a life outside of academia. This would prohibit going down any super- complex routes. I think I would be more comfortable not having to rely on the sensor being in the line of sight too, sounds scary. Brilliant feedback so far though, thanks a lot, I have plenty to get on with. I will, no doubt, be reporting back soon... Cheers, Jb On 1 December 2010 20:23, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: Tracking in that sense requires you to have gear that is in visible line of sight to the musician. If its a concert situation maybe that's not easy. But its a way to go. Note that will not produce good tridimensional tracking results, one could use a kinect too. If we want to hyper extrapolate, if the concert is in a controlled room, you can use 3D IR tracking system, such as used for mocap. Real expensive but really accurate. :) Best luck, Pedro On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:01 PM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's worth mentioning that you can also work the other way round: mount a small IR LED on the head of the instrument and track its motion with a wiimote mounted statically in front of it. I used this once for tracking a remote controlled robot and it worked fairly well. I guess that success will also depend on the type of movements the musician will make. The IR LED would need to stay directed to the wiimote all the times. Also make the LED as omnidirectional as possible... Tim 2010/12/1 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Hi, i connected pd with arduino and adxl330, works fine, in order to wireless i prefer arduino bluetooth, the only thing to do is change the baud for default the in firmata is 57600, in my experience only works if you change to 115200 (in the standard firmata arduino sketch,and the arduino monitor). If you have problems i can help you, i send a youtube video , pd +arduino+processing+osc wired...but arduino bluetooth or bluetooth shield for Arduino is the solution. http://www.youtube.com/user/santorcuato76#p/u/1/SM4Un76LB90 Best regrads from Chile José 2010/12/1 J bz jbee...@gmail.com Hey all, I'm working on composing a piece within pd for viola in which I would like to attach some kind of sensor to the head of the instrument. The sensor must be capable of tracking the performers movements on the x,y,z axis', be undetectable for the performer, and be wireless. I'm not sure whether something arduino or some sort of bluetooth device would be preferable? Would be very grateful if any listers have any experience in these matters and could recommend some devices, pointers of things to watch out for (bluetooth in concert venues for example), general sturdiness of various items, etc. Many thanks, and best wishes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
problems with bluetooth in concert situations I think this would mostly depend on how far away you are from the receiver. If you're expecting to be fairly far away (more than 10 or 20 feet) bluetooth is probably not the right choice. —t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
Steiner FTW, there. Lots of ideas flying around, May well try the ringmod thing, although I do have feedback issues with my laptop, will probably all go wrong if I go straight for that. Good stuff CC: geoker...@gmail.com; p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu; pd-list@iem.at From: h...@at.or.at To: jbtur...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Showcasing PD Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:26:51 -0500 I'm a big fan of starting from very little and building a ring modulator, step-by-step, as I did in this talk: http://vimeo.com/5479982 .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote:Wii data really doesn't work for me. Although perhaps with a few led's it'd rekindle my interest. Incidentally, either I don't have a fast enough machine for VJing or I've not found the right library/objects. What's the way forward on that? From: geoker...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:47:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [PD] Showcasing PD To: p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu CC: jbtur...@hotmail.com; pd-list@iem.at Yeap, and talk NERDY ;) On 1 December 2010 22:33, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem and video driver issue ?
Hello, I installed Ubuntu Maverick on an old Thinkpad T42. Before this I was using Gem on the same machine in Hardy...slow but working. Now I can't create the Gemwin at all, I get: pd: ../../radeon/radeon_cs_gem.c:181: cs_gem_write_reloc: Assertion `boi-space_accounted' failed. Pd: signal 6 socket receive error: Connection reset by peer (104) and pd exits. glxgears does work by the way... any ideas? Thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
2010/12/1 Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com problems with bluetooth in concert situations I think this would mostly depend on how far away you are from the receiver. If you're expecting to be fairly far away (more than 10 or 20 feet) bluetooth is probably not the right choice. I don't know about that. I have done performances walking around on a stage of 8 by 8 meters, using a wiimote duct-taped to my guitar to control a pd patch, no problems there. Ofcourse there's no guarantee. If you can, test beforehand in a situation as close to the actual performance as possible, to get an idea if it's reliable... Tim —t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] impulse~ conflict
Hi I am getting an conflict with Eric Lyon's impulse~ and impulse~ from some other external library Can someone place that name and where it lives? Pat Pagano ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
Nothing a sensor check would not prevent. Its like sound check =P The thing with bluetooth is if you loose the device it can take a lot of time to reconnect. But it can be used for 8 meters. There are other things: - radio (zigbee, xbee) - wifi (hooray, i love wifi) On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:14 AM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/12/1 Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com problems with bluetooth in concert situations I think this would mostly depend on how far away you are from the receiver. If you're expecting to be fairly far away (more than 10 or 20 feet) bluetooth is probably not the right choice. I don't know about that. I have done performances walking around on a stage of 8 by 8 meters, using a wiimote duct-taped to my guitar to control a pd patch, no problems there. Ofcourse there's no guarantee. If you can, test beforehand in a situation as close to the actual performance as possible, to get an idea if it's reliable... Tim —t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rjdj using [netreceive]
Hi Sofy, On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 02:15:32PM -0500, sonia yuditskaya wrote: the [rj_http] object is actually not in the rjutils folder, or anywhere else I could find. Maybe this is still in development or something? Do you or anyone on the list have it? As far as I know it is a binary object (external) which is part of the RjDj app itself when it is installed on your iDevice. I would consult with the RjDj people to see if they still support that object and how to use it etc. What I am working on is an amulet that you hold, attached to mic-in, which allows you to use pocket sized hard ware/jewelry/whatever-you-call-it for people to communicate across distances with each other without words, in that trippy aural landscape that rjdj allows for. That sounds way cool! The hope was to use the interwebs to allow for smartphone to smartphone communications without having to try and mesh rjdj with the sms or telephony that is already on the phone. Ew, yuck, yes internet protocol would be much more useful. Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs
Many thanks for all your help so far Hans! Really appreciate it! Please allow me one more question regarding the installer. Namely, when I do: sudo make prefix=/usr install inside pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder, the installer fails if one does not remove manually smylinks created for Gem inside ./build/usr/lib/pd-extended/doc/manuals and examples. The same goes for the core pd install which fails because of the ./build/usr/lib/pd-extended/pd symlink. Naturally, one can always do make clean but that would redundantly require recompile of the whole thing when at times the only thing necessary is recompiling one of the things. This finally brings me to my question. When I do the aforesaid command after removing offending symlinks, everything gets installed ok except that abstractions are only installed inside ./build/lib... subfolder but they never make it into the actual /usr/lib/pd-extended install folder for whatever reason. There must be something I am not doing wrong. FWIW, when I manually copy installed abstractions into the /usr/lib/pd-extended folder, everything works as expected. Please advise. Best wishes, Ico -Original Message- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:h...@at.or.at] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:39 PM To: Ivica Ico Bukvic Cc: pd-list Subject: Re: default.pdextended in the latest 0.42.x extended release and failure to load some of the libs They are part of pd-extended, and they build properly on the build machines. Check the nightly builds for more info: http://autobuild.puredata.info/ .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: However the cxc library and markex are a part of the default.pdextended file provided in the packages/linux_make dir which means that they are apparently a part of pd-extended, yet they fail to build properly using default build scripts. So are they a part of pd-extended or not? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: You have the right source for that file, packages/linux_make. But I don't think your problems below have anything to do with that file, rather how the libraries were built and installed. .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: These are however included in the example default.pdsettings inside of the packages/linux_make folder. Hence my confusion. So, where is the official default.pdsettings then located? Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: For something like list-abs, with only abstractions, its just a question of getting the files in the right place. Look at the Pd-extended release for an example. For the can't find symbol errors, looks like those objects weren't built properly. Looks like you also threw in a markex.pd_linux and cxc.pd_linux, which Pd-extended does not. .hc On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:16 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Hans (and others who may know the answer to the following question), I've tried using default.pdextended included in the ~/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/ folder in conjunction with the latest build of pd-extended (built from scratch) for auto-loading some of the libs and found that some of the newly recompiled externals report errors as follows: [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Dec 1 2010 at 03:11:55 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended-20101201 GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Dec 1 2010 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: MMX GEM: using MMX optimization libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/cxc.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cxc_split_setup libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path list-abs: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/markex.pd_linux: undefined symbol: invert_setup libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global
Re: [PD] Setting tempo via microphone input (eg audience clapping)
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 05:08:49PM +, Pedro Lopes wrote: Now attack detection in PD can be performed in various ways, one cool way is to use bonk~ to detect attacks (see Miller's paper in [2]) or on a simpler level you can analyse the signal manually with env~. One very awesome thing about [bonk~] is that you can ask it to 'learn' certain attack sounds. So you could just have it listen out for the group-clap sound specifically. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Attaching a Sensor to Acoustic Instruments Question
Maybe you can create a Helmet...or Hat...cool...then the wire is not a a problem, also you can hack the wii and select the internal parts to reduce the weight. Best regards José 2010/12/1 Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt Nothing a sensor check would not prevent. Its like sound check =P The thing with bluetooth is if you loose the device it can take a lot of time to reconnect. But it can be used for 8 meters. There are other things: - radio (zigbee, xbee) - wifi (hooray, i love wifi) On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:14 AM, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/12/1 Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com problems with bluetooth in concert situations I think this would mostly depend on how far away you are from the receiver. If you're expecting to be fairly far away (more than 10 or 20 feet) bluetooth is probably not the right choice. I don't know about that. I have done performances walking around on a stage of 8 by 8 meters, using a wiimote duct-taped to my guitar to control a pd patch, no problems there. Ofcourse there's no guarantee. If you can, test beforehand in a situation as close to the actual performance as possible, to get an idea if it's reliable... Tim —t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rjdj using [netreceive]
Thanks Chris, I am writing them a letter now, hope for the best! Sofy Yuditskaya ] yuditskaya.com [ On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: Hi Sofy, On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 02:15:32PM -0500, sonia yuditskaya wrote: the [rj_http] object is actually not in the rjutils folder, or anywhere else I could find. Maybe this is still in development or something? Do you or anyone on the list have it? As far as I know it is a binary object (external) which is part of the RjDj app itself when it is installed on your iDevice. I would consult with the RjDj people to see if they still support that object and how to use it etc. What I am working on is an amulet that you hold, attached to mic-in, which allows you to use pocket sized hard ware/jewelry/whatever-you-call-it for people to communicate across distances with each other without words, in that trippy aural landscape that rjdj allows for. That sounds way cool! The hope was to use the interwebs to allow for smartphone to smartphone communications without having to try and mesh rjdj with the sms or telephony that is already on the phone. Ew, yuck, yes internet protocol would be much more useful. Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New user - technical questions
Thanks, I will investigate that. Le 1/12/2010 22:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : An 8-core system would not do much for normal Pd patches. Try pd~, then you can have a pd-instance per core in a single patch. .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Xavier Miller wrote: In my case : I will need to build a dedicated machine running Pd. If Pd doesn't support multi-threading, it would be nonsense to buy an octocore system. Xavier. Le 01/12/10 18:19, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Pedro Lopes wrote: It sounds to me that you have a solution in your head looking for a problem, perhaps you could start with the problem? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
I was looking to a good tutorial / introduction. I've found it :) I will take watch it tonight, after work. Xavier. Le 1/12/2010 22:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I'm a big fan of starting from very little and building a ring modulator, step-by-step, as I did in this talk: http://vimeo.com/5479982 .hc On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote: Wii data really doesn't work for me. Although perhaps with a few led's it'd rekindle my interest. Incidentally, either I don't have a fast enough machine for VJing or I've not found the right library/objects. What's the way forward on that? From:geoker...@gmail.com mailto:geoker...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:47:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [PD] Showcasing PD To:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu CC:jbtur...@hotmail.com mailto:jbtur...@hotmail.com;pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at Yeap, and talk NERDY ;) On 1 December 2010 22:33, Pagano, Patrickp...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote: Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From:pd-list-boun...@iem.at mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at[pd-list-boun...@iem.at mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com mailto:jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To:pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.atmailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.atmailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
