Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: wiimote crashes with moderate cpu load and/or heavy USB transfer
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 11:00 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: It should be included with the actual external. I'm afraid the archive from: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/disis_wiimote-0.6.5.tar.gz doesn't contain a help patch. Roman Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 20:21 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Forgot to copy pd-list... Original Message Subject: Re: [PD] wiimote crashes with moderate cpu load and/or heavy USB transfer From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu To: John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com CC: Try disis_wiimote from the L2ork software page which uses threaded implementation and is dsp-safe even when sending cues back to wiimote (which otherwise cause consistent xruns). We use it regularly even at heavy cpu loads and it is rock solid (Linux only). Cheers! Is there also help-file / help-patch available for [disis_wiimote]? Or is it supposed to work the same as the [wiimote] it is based on (can't test right now). Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] ubuntu/ubuntustudio 10.10 pd pd-extended?
I've installed ubuntu 10.10 on my netbook, and on top of that the audio packages from ubuntustudio. This is working well. For Pd, however, I *think* what I have is a vanilla installation, rather than extended, which I would like. In Synapctic Package Manager I can see I have puredata 0.42.6-1build1 plus a version of gem, but I can't seem to see anything in Synaptic which looks like Pd extended. Do I have to add a software source or something? Alternatively, on http://puredata.info/downloads I see a link to: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pure-data/Pd-0.42.5-extended-ubuntu-maverick-i386.deb Should I download that instead? Should I remove the existing installation? (Please excuse the perhaps slightly naive 'now-click-here' tone of this question: it's deliberate. So far I've managed to get this machine installed and running the way I want it without using the terminal once, just coming at it like I would on the mac or pc. I'm trying to keep going on ubuntu sticking to this policy, partly just to prove whether or not it can be done...) Thanks, JS -- J. Simon van der Walt - Composer www.jsimonvanderwalt.com +44 (0) 7905 270 198 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ubuntu/ubuntustudio 10.10 pd pd-extended?
Hi On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 08:37 +, J. Simon van der Walt wrote: I've installed ubuntu 10.10 on my netbook, and on top of that the audio packages from ubuntustudio. This is working well. For Pd, however, I *think* what I have is a vanilla installation, rather than extended, which I would like. In Synapctic Package Manager I can see I have puredata 0.42.6-1build1 plus a version of gem, but I can't seem to see anything in Synaptic which looks like Pd extended. Do I have to add a software source or something? AFAIK, there is no repository delivering Pd-extended. Alternatively, on http://puredata.info/downloads I see a link to: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pure-data/Pd-0.42.5-extended-ubuntu-maverick-i386.deb Should I download that instead? Yes. Should I remove the existing installation? You can, if you want, but it's not mandatory. You most certainly have Pd vanilla installed now and both, Pd-extended and Pd, can happily live side-by-side nowadays. (Please excuse the perhaps slightly naive 'now-click-here' tone of this question: it's deliberate. So far I've managed to get this machine installed and running the way I want it without using the terminal once, just coming at it like I would on the mac or pc. I'm trying to keep going on ubuntu sticking to this policy, partly just to prove whether or not it can be done...) Good luck! (I'm confident it's possible, though) Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] standard encoding of pd files in each system?
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 22:54 +0100, João Pais wrote: For converting, I like moocow/any2bytes and moocow/bytes2any. I think I had a look at it as well. do you have any comparative reason for that one instead of the other? or it was just the first one to get to you? One important thing to know is that [mrpeach/str] only works with Pd-extended, but not with Pd-vanilla as it requires some modifications to m_pd.h. Btw @Martin: Do you think it's time again to to try to get the blob support into Pd-vanilla? I think that [str] would be utterly useful also in vanilla and it didn't seem to have caused any problem in Pd-extended, did it? Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] standard encoding of pd files in each system?
moin all, fwiw, I'll add my vote in favor of getting Martin's [str] / blob patch into pd vanilla. iirc, Miller has indicated in the past that he feels this sort of thing should be done using arrays. There are a couple of proof-of-concept objects (not compiled by default) in pdstring (moocow/pdstring for pd-extended users) that use arrays, but I wasn't satisfied with this approach for two reasons: 1) If you treat the array internally as a string of bytes (e.g. char*), then: (A) you must constantly cast and re-cast the data (B) you must scale all size attributes (e.g. for re-allocation) by 1.0/sizeof(t_float), so to get an accurate byte length that is not a multiple of sizeof(t_float), you need to actually store that length additionally somewhere else (C) saving array data with a patch and re-loading can cause data loss (float truncation may mess up raw byte values) (D) it's not really portable (byte order problems with load/save) 2) If otoh you let the array remain a t_float* and just assign the floats byte ((unsigned) char) or even wide character (wchar) values, then: (A) you potentially waste a lot of memory (strlen(str)*(sizeof(float)-1) bytes) (B) I/O: if you read a string as a (char*) -- e.g. from a file, socket, external library, etc. -- or if you need a pd-array-string as a (char*) -- e.g. for an external API call -- then you have to explicitly convert it, which means allocating some memory (maybe defining a static local buffer to avoid malloc() calls), and iterating over the string (rsp. over the array), which is O(N) time and space, and is annoying for long strings and/or frequent calls (C) if you really want to store your string data in an array, you can use [str] or [pdstring] together with e.g. [tabdump] and [tabset] from zexy, which just makes the conversion overhead explicit. I think there are workarounds for both techniques, but not without patching the pd core code, and if we're going to patch the core code, we might as well take a patch that does the job right (i.e. Martin's)... just my €0.02 ... marmosets, Bryan On 2011-01-28 09:59:39, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com appears to have written: On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 22:54 +0100, João Pais wrote: For converting, I like moocow/any2bytes and moocow/bytes2any. I think I had a look at it as well. do you have any comparative reason for that one instead of the other? or it was just the first one to get to you? One important thing to know is that [mrpeach/str] only works with Pd-extended, but not with Pd-vanilla as it requires some modifications to m_pd.h. Btw @Martin: Do you think it's time again to to try to get the blob support into Pd-vanilla? I think that [str] would be utterly useful also in vanilla and it didn't seem to have caused any problem in Pd-extended, did it? Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- *** Bryan Jurish Deutsches Textarchiv Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften Jägerstr. 22/23 10117 Berlin Tel.: +49 (0)30 20370 539 E-Mail:jur...@bbaw.de *** ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pool] build fails on linux
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: I recall that some old makefiles found in some externals had a sintax like: make pd_linux instead of make Thus they had multiple make targets inside, and if you type make it would enter the wrong one (like Win) thanks to all for your hints. I finally made it =) for the sake of the archives, here are my steps and errors: I try by removing pd from pool_la_LDFLAGS in pool/source/Makefile (which might be something very stupid !) but somehow [pool] built fine. then using [pool] in pd gave me a undefined symbol: _ZN17flext_root_singlenwEj error, which lead me to this thread: http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/pipermail/flext/2010-September/000121.html with the correct way of building a flext external: (assuming pool and flext are in $HOME/dev) $ cd $HOME/dev/pool $ bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc # bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc install thanks ! _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pool] build fails on linux
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Yvan Volochine yvan...@gmail.com wrote: the correct way of building a flext external: (assuming pool and flext are in $HOME/dev) $ cd $HOME/dev/pool $ bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc # bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc install lesson learned: read the README until the end ! sorry for the noise... _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [ot] hosting service for a pure data project?
i'm planning to share a patch made with some friends and i need a free hosting service for this purpose. I usually use wordpress.com for my personal stuff, but it doesn't allow for many file types, including archives and .pd files. I would use the website to keep trace of our plans, further steps, documentation and so on, so something with a blog- like approach would be better for us. And maybe something to handle the contributed development of the patch (we are now using just a dropbox shared folder). I was thinking about sourceforge, but isn't it too much for just a pure data patch? Any suggestion? thanks, athos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] hosting service for a pure data project?
I use google code for my patches/ random stuff : http://code.google.com/p/databodega/downloads/list main page is here: http://code.google.com/projecthosting/ http://code.google.com/projecthosting/quite straight forward to upload and manage from my experience On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Athos Bacchiocchi athos.bacchioc...@tin.it wrote: i'm planning to share a patch made with some friends and i need a free hosting service for this purpose. I usually use wordpress.com for my personal stuff, but it doesn't allow for many file types, including archives and .pd files. I would use the website to keep trace of our plans, further steps, documentation and so on, so something with a blog- like approach would be better for us. And maybe something to handle the contributed development of the patch (we are now using just a dropbox shared folder). I was thinking about sourceforge, but isn't it too much for just a pure data patch? Any suggestion? thanks, athos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] hosting service for a pure data project?
Why don't you try the linuxaudio.org? We serve 2TB a month hosting a number of distro mirrors and projects. Ico -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Athos Bacchiocchi Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:25 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] [ot] hosting service for a pure data project? i'm planning to share a patch made with some friends and i need a free hosting service for this purpose. I usually use wordpress.com for my personal stuff, but it doesn't allow for many file types, including archives and .pd files. I would use the website to keep trace of our plans, further steps, documentation and so on, so something with a blog- like approach would be better for us. And maybe something to handle the contributed development of the patch (we are now using just a dropbox shared folder). I was thinking about sourceforge, but isn't it too much for just a pure data patch? Any suggestion? thanks, athos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] hosting service for a pure data project?
Github! I have several Pd projects on github. ±±t3db0t On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Athos Bacchiocchi wrote: i'm planning to share a patch made with some friends and i need a free hosting service for this purpose. I usually use wordpress.com for my personal stuff, but it doesn't allow for many file types, including archives and .pd files. I would use the website to keep trace of our plans, further steps, documentation and so on, so something with a blog- like approach would be better for us. And maybe something to handle the contributed development of the patch (we are now using just a dropbox shared folder). I was thinking about sourceforge, but isn't it too much for just a pure data patch? Any suggestion? thanks, athos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Multi-dimensional arrays
I know this is one of those perennial questions that must come up regularly, but I simply cannot figure it out. What's a good way to store data in a 3-dimensional array? Thanks! —t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multi-dimensional arrays
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: I know this is one of those perennial questions that must come up regularly, but I simply cannot figure it out. What's a good way to store data in a 3-dimensional array? [#store] supports 3-dimensional arrays, as well as 2-dimensional, 1-dimensional, 0-dimensional, 4-dimensional, 5-dimensional... apparently it can support up to 14-dimensional, but I never tried. It's not arrays in exactly the same sense as in the base of pd, though. http://gridflow.ca/ ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd quine?
The thought just occurred to me... Has anyone ever made a Pd quine? Sounds like an interesting challenge... ±±t3db0t___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
have you been reading GEB? :) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote: The thought just occurred to me... Has anyone ever made a Pd quinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quine_(computing)? Sounds like an interesting challenge... ±±t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
:) A pd quine eh So the objects would print out their name, position, linked components into the print object, thus we would get the patch into the output. The thing with pd is that the visual patch is different from the text patch. C and scheme quines, are pretty much self-reproductive organisms :) As the source is the output. So in terms of PD you would have to be outputting as a result of what you expect or know that is in the text path, right? best, pedro On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote: Haha, well, not in a while, but I was thinking about quines a couple times lately for some reason ^_^ ±±tedb0t On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Pedro Lopes wrote: have you been reading GEB? :) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote: The thought just occurred to me... Has anyone ever made a Pd quinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quine_(computing)? Sounds like an interesting challenge... ±±t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Multi-dimensional arrays
(Forgot to reply to the list, sorry Mathieu :) ) Awesome! I started this patch (basically a drum sequencer interface with recallable banks), but not sure why [#store] isn't working here: tedrum-gridflow.pd Description: Binary data Perhaps the [#store]s need to be initialized with the right dimensions? Not sure how to do that... ——t3db0t On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: I know this is one of those perennial questions that must come up regularly, but I simply cannot figure it out. What's a good way to store data in a 3-dimensional array? [#store] supports 3-dimensional arrays, as well as 2-dimensional, 1-dimensional, 0-dimensional, 4-dimensional, 5-dimensional... apparently it can support up to 14-dimensional, but I never tried. It's not arrays in exactly the same sense as in the base of pd, though. http://gridflow.ca/ ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multi-dimensional arrays (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:28:39 -0500 (EST) From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com Subject: Re: [PD] Multi-dimensional arrays On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: Awesome! I started this patch (basically a drum sequencer interface with recallable banks), but not sure why [#store] isn't working here: It's because [#many] contains a [#store] that needs to have a 2-dimensional grid in it, and [#many] doesn't check that you give it such a grid, and by default, [#store] contains a 0-dimensional grid whose contents is a single 0. Perhaps the [#store]s need to be initialized with the right dimensions? Not sure how to do that... A grid literal such as «6 8 #» will expand to a 6×8 grid of zeroes, if you pass it as a single argument where a grid is expected (using parentheses) or as a list-message to a grid-inlet. for example, [#store (6 8 #)] and to clear the contents, have a «6 8 #» messagebox. (I use «» to quote a list or messagebox contents in email. It's not part of GridFlow.) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: The thought just occurred to me... Has anyone ever made a Pd quine? Sounds like an interesting challenge... Using Pd's save feature or not ? Pd has a natural advantage in that it contains such a feature, but if that feature is ruled out, then a self-replicating programme is probably a lot lengthier and complicated than in the average language... though this could an interesting challenge. will Bryan and Claude compete with each other on this one ? :) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
exit(1) for now, although feel free to ask me again next week... ;-) On 2011-01-28 21:33:34, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca appears to have written: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: The thought just occurred to me... Has anyone ever made a Pd quine? Sounds like an interesting challenge... Using Pd's save feature or not ? Pd has a natural advantage in that it contains such a feature, but if that feature is ruled out, then a self-replicating programme is probably a lot lengthier and complicated than in the average language... though this could an interesting challenge. will Bryan and Claude compete with each other on this one ? :) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. jur...@uni-potsdam.de -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pool] build fails on linux
Hi Yvan, i'd recommend to try the flext build system instead of the autoconf/make. See flext/build.txt for explanations. I can't really comment on linux, my memory has already gone, but i wonder whether there actually is a libpd.a that can be linked in (as tried by the cited command) gr~~~ 2011/1/25 Yvan Volochine yvan...@gmail.com: hi, trying to build pool from latest svn (and latest pd git) I get this error: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/delf/dev/pool/source' /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -O2 -I/usr/local/include/flext -I/home/delf/dev/pure-data/src -no-undefined -module -shrext .pd_linux -avoid-version -L/usr/local/lib -lpd -lflext-pd_s -o pool.la -rpath /usr/local/lib pool_la-main.lo pool_la-pool.lo pool_la-data.lo libtool: link: g++ -shared -nostdlib /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crti.o /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/crtbeginS.o .libs/pool_la-main.o .libs/pool_la-pool.o .libs/pool_la-data.o -L/usr/local/lib -lpd -lflext-pd_s -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3 -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib -L/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../.. -L/usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crtn.o -Wl,-soname -Wl,pool.pd_linux -o .libs/pool.pd_linux /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpd collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [pool.la] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/delf/dev/pool/source' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 zsh: exit 2 make am I missing a path or something ? ./configure --with-sysdir=/PATH/TO/PD/SRC did find pd headers and all, now I have no idea about what is going wrong... any hint is much appreciated, cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] IP address in windows?
Hi all, Is it possible to get my computer's IP from inside Pd? I know it's possible in Linux using the shell object, but it doesn't exist in windows. I'm trying to make a game requiring two players to play on two different computers, and it'd be very annoying if each user had to find her IP before playing. Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multi-dimensional arrays (fwd)
Excellent, I've been making tons of progress! Now I'm wondering if there's a way to retrieve a single column from a [#many] object...? I have been trying a for++ loop to iterate through the rows of a specified column but it's not working very well and I can only do that via a [#store] object... Thanks so much!! ±t3db0t On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: Awesome! I started this patch (basically a drum sequencer interface with recallable banks), but not sure why [#store] isn't working here: It's because [#many] contains a [#store] that needs to have a 2-dimensional grid in it, and [#many] doesn't check that you give it such a grid, and by default, [#store] contains a 0-dimensional grid whose contents is a single 0. Perhaps the [#store]s need to be initialized with the right dimensions? Not sure how to do that... A grid literal such as «6 8 #» will expand to a 6×8 grid of zeroes, if you pass it as a single argument where a grid is expected (using parentheses) or as a list-message to a grid-inlet. for example, [#store (6 8 #)] and to clear the contents, have a «6 8 #» messagebox. (I use «» to quote a list or messagebox contents in email. It's not part of GridFlow.) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pool] build fails on linux
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011, Thomas Grill wrote: i'd recommend to try the flext build system instead of the autoconf/make. See flext/build.txt for explanations. I can't really comment on linux, my memory has already gone, but i wonder whether there actually is a libpd.a that can be linked in (as tried by the cited command) On an ordinary pd-vanilla or pd-extended on non-Windows, you just remove the -lpd option and you try again. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multi-dimensional arrays (fwd)
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: Excellent, I've been making tons of progress! Now I'm wondering if there's a way to retrieve a single column from a [#many] object...? [#slice] can give you any subrectangle inside of that grid, including a column, but it will give it to you as a 2-dimensional grid ; that is, dim(1,n). If you need a dim(n) you can use [#redim] afterwards. have been trying a for++ loop to iterate through the rows of a specified column but it's not working very well and I can only do that via a [#store] object... Do you want to do something like this ? http://gridflow.ca/gallery/sequenceur.pd.png http://gridflow.ca/gallery/sequenceur.pd.mp3 ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] IP address in windows?
lame-solution Even if there's no shell/system object for windoes (I'm not using win so I cannot really answer) you can easily create a batch script (a windows shell script) that saves the output of ipconfig in a file. Then parse the file with pd and extract the ip from there. It can even by dynamic in the sense that your shell script can be a sort of cron (linux scheduled jobs, I think are called sheduled services in win) and can run a number of times. Thus your game could see the file for the lastest IP. /lame-solution On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is it possible to get my computer's IP from inside Pd? I know it's possible in Linux using the shell object, but it doesn't exist in windows. I'm trying to make a game requiring two players to play on two different computers, and it'd be very annoying if each user had to find her IP before playing. Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: wiimote crashes with moderate cpu load and/or heavy USB transfer
I'm not using a Pd object for this. I'm using third party software to read
the bluetooth signal from the wiimote. Then I use the mrpeach lib. in Pd.
I was running a usb soundcard and getting dropouts all the time. In fact the
bluetooth was failing and I had to hard reset to restore the bluetooth,
normal restarts wouldn't even fix it.
I couldn't figure it out for a long time. Then I found out that the
bluetooth in my macbook is powered by the USB bus, so the USB was
interfering with the Bluetooth.
I changed to a firewire soundcard and the dropouts went away. So it seems I
can't use USB devices and bluetooth at the same time.
Hope this is of some use to you.
cheers
Richie
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 11:00 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
It should be included with the actual external.
I'm afraid the archive from:
http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/disis_wiimote-0.6.5.tar.gz
doesn't contain a help patch.
Roman
Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 20:21 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Forgot to copy pd-list...
Original Message
Subject: Re: [PD] wiimote crashes with moderate cpu load and/or heavy
USB transfer
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
To: John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com
CC:
Try disis_wiimote from the L2ork software page which uses threaded
implementation and is dsp-safe even when sending cues back to wiimote (which
otherwise cause consistent xruns). We use it regularly even at heavy cpu
loads and it is rock solid (Linux only).
Cheers!
Is there also help-file / help-patch available for [disis_wiimote]? Or
is it supposed to work the same as the [wiimote] it is based on (can't
test right now).
Roman
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Re: [PD] pd quine?
Here's an attempt (without being totally sure I understand what a quine is...) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 1/28/11, Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de wrote: From: Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de Subject: Re: [PD] pd quine? To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: pd-list List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 10:50 PM exit(1) for now, although feel free to ask me again next week... ;-) On 2011-01-28 21:33:34, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca appears to have written: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: The thought just occurred to me... Has anyone ever made a Pd quine? Sounds like an interesting challenge... Using Pd's save feature or not ? Pd has a natural advantage in that it contains such a feature, but if that feature is ruled out, then a self-replicating programme is probably a lot lengthier and complicated than in the average language... though this could an interesting challenge. will Bryan and Claude compete with each other on this one ? :) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. jur...@uni-potsdam.de -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list self.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Here's an attempt (without being totally sure I understand what a quine is...) That's it, precisely ! (almost all quines of other programming languages use standard-output instead, but that's a quite unimportant detail) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
This is awesome!! You should add it to the wikipedia page on Quines ^_^ On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Here's an attempt (without being totally sure I understand what a quine is...) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 1/28/11, Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de wrote: From: Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de Subject: Re: [PD] pd quine? To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: pd-list List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 10:50 PM exit(1) for now, although feel free to ask me again next week... ;-) On 2011-01-28 21:33:34, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca appears to have written: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Tedb0t wrote: The thought just occurred to me... Has anyone ever made a Pd quine? Sounds like an interesting challenge... Using Pd's save feature or not ? Pd has a natural advantage in that it contains such a feature, but if that feature is ruled out, then a self-replicating programme is probably a lot lengthier and complicated than in the average language... though this could an interesting challenge. will Bryan and Claude compete with each other on this one ? :) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. jur...@uni-potsdam.de -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list self.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
There's also doc/manuals/0.intro/50.pure_data_files, but the clone is missing the subpatch. -Jonathan --- On Sat, 1/29/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] pd quine? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de, pd-list List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 4:47 AM On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Here's an attempt (without being totally sure I understand what a quine is...) That's it, precisely ! (almost all quines of other programming languages use standard-output instead, but that's a quite unimportant detail) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] IP address in windows?
Hello Pierre, you can get ip adress with windows cmd In pd-extended there is [flatspace/popen] object for that, you need to create a file called 'getip.bat' containing those lines: @echo off for /F usebackq tokens=14 %%i in (`ipconfig ^| find /i IPv4`) do echo %%i and then you can grab the ip adress from the computer you are in by sending [getip.bat message to [popen] like this: [getip.bat | [flatspace/popen | symbol box both patch and batch files must be in the same directory, or put the batch file into pd/bin to run it from anywhere - Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt a écrit : lame-solution Even if there's no shell/system object for windoes (I'm not using win so I cannot really answer) you can easily create a batch script (a windows shell script) that saves the output of ipconfig in a file. Then parse the file with pd and extract the ip from there. It can even by dynamic in the sense that your shell script can be a sort of cron (linux scheduled jobs, I think are called sheduled services in win) and can run a number of times. Thus your game could see the file for the lastest IP. /lame-solution On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is it possible to get my computer's IP from inside Pd? I know it's possible in Linux using the shell object, but it doesn't exist in windows. I'm trying to make a game requiring two players to play on two different computers, and it'd be very annoying if each user had to find her IP before playing. Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrice Colet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: wiimote crashes with moderate cpu load and/or heavy USB transfer
it appears that this set of addons http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/l2ork_addons-20101230.tar.gz includes the help patch (which looks familiar. :-)) -John On 01/28/2011 02:12 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 11:00 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: It should be included with the actual external. I'm afraid the archive from: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/disis_wiimote-0.6.5.tar.gz doesn't contain a help patch. Roman Roman Haefelireduz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 20:21 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Forgot to copy pd-list... Original Message Subject: Re: [PD] wiimote crashes with moderate cpu load and/or heavy USB transfer From: Ivica Ico Bukvici...@vt.edu To: John Harrisonjohnharrison...@gmail.com CC: Try disis_wiimote from the L2ork software page which uses threaded implementation and is dsp-safe even when sending cues back to wiimote (which otherwise cause consistent xruns). We use it regularly even at heavy cpu loads and it is rock solid (Linux only). Cheers! Is there also help-file / help-patch available for [disis_wiimote]? Or is it supposed to work the same as the [wiimote] it is based on (can't test right now). Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: wiimote crashes with moderate cpu load and/or heavy USB transfer
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 11:00 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: It should be included with the actual external. I'm afraid the archive from: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/data/pd/disis_wiimote-0.6.5.tar.gz doesn't contain a help patch. Roman Silly me. Forgot to include it in there. Just reuploaded it (same link) and now it should be ok. Please make sure to also have latest version of libcwiid installed (snapshot mirror available on the l2ork site). HTH Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [video] kinect + wii + puredata
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