Re: [PD] DIY Biosensing wearable device and PureData
Wow, Marco. Amazing. Love to see more of this and get a look at the hardware and the patch. This is right up my alley. Thank you very much fro sharing. cheers Richard ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd suddenly huge in Russia?
Given that 84% of dowloads are from russia and 84% of OSes are of type Unknown... I guess that those are not regular users... As of why so many downloads... I cannot even imagine something stupid to say. p. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:36 AM, palmieri, ricardo ricardopalmi...@gmail.com wrote: is it related to some kind of new non-open source cold war? no way palm 2011/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I was just looking at the download statistics, and it seems there was an insane burst of downloads from Russia recently: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.42.5/stats/timeline?dates=2011-01-01+to+2011-02-22 Anyone have any ideas on why? .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- twitt-me: @ricardopalmieri mobile# +551185833173 [memelab.com.br] [palm.estudiolivre.org] [myspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Create duplicate patch in realtime
@Pedro I did the following: $ /Applications/Pd-0.42-5.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd -d 1 Pt_Start() called However in the any objects I create in the instance that shows up won't output anything to terminal. Is this how you have it working? Or are you writing in the command line? @Hans On Pd-0.42-5 going to Help menu Browser 1.manual shows 1.introduction.txt as the first entry and a few images that won't load. On Pd-0.43-0test4 going to Help menu Browser shows a library of objects I have in my add to my path. Am I missing something? Thanks for you help guys, Joe On 21 February 2011 22:46, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: Yes. It applies to vanilla (just tested). On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: You might find some docs in the Help Browser relevant: Help menu - Browser - Manuals - 0.Intro - 50.pure_data_files.pd Help menu - Browser - pd-msg .hc On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Joe White wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if it is possible to be able to get the commands that are called when a user is creating a patch in the Pd GUI. What I'd like to achieve is to be able to have a duplicate patch being created in realtime as I make it. In a similar way to dynamic patching, if I could gather the commands called and send them to another Pd instance would this work? Thanks for your time, Joe ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Create duplicate patch in realtime
Should have said: 'On Pd-0.43-0test4 going to Help menu Browser shows a library of objects I have *added* to my path. On 22 February 2011 11:02, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote: @Pedro I did the following: $ /Applications/Pd-0.42-5.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd -d 1 Pt_Start() called However in the any objects I create in the instance that shows up won't output anything to terminal. Is this how you have it working? Or are you writing in the command line? @Hans On Pd-0.42-5 going to Help menu Browser 1.manual shows 1.introduction.txt as the first entry and a few images that won't load. On Pd-0.43-0test4 going to Help menu Browser shows a library of objects I have in my add to my path. Am I missing something? Thanks for you help guys, Joe On 21 February 2011 22:46, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: Yes. It applies to vanilla (just tested). On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: You might find some docs in the Help Browser relevant: Help menu - Browser - Manuals - 0.Intro - 50.pure_data_files.pd Help menu - Browser - pd-msg .hc On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Joe White wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if it is possible to be able to get the commands that are called when a user is creating a patch in the Pd GUI. What I'd like to achieve is to be able to have a duplicate patch being created in realtime as I make it. In a similar way to dynamic patching, if I could gather the commands called and send them to another Pd instance would this work? Thanks for your time, Joe ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?
Hi, On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 06:00:22PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Tell me what's wrong with the pd-msg docs, and what needs improvement to achieve the standard of official docs and I'll make those changes. I already wrote what's wrong. Now I have committed an updated loadbang example patch based on the example and text I posted earlier. Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Frank Barknecht wrote: We all know, that dynamic patching, while very useful, still is considered exploiting internal implementation details, and has never been encouraged nor documented by its author, Miller. Yet if Miller changed internals so that dynamic patching becomes impossible, what would he achieve with that ? What would you do ? What would I do ? What would other people do about it ? It does not help anyone, to know that Miller doesn't encourage some of the most interesting patching in the Pd community. What are you trying to achieve, by restating Miller's position ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Create duplicate patch in realtime
My version was compiled from source pedro@io:~/Apps/pdfont/pure-data/bin$ ./pd -version Pd-0.43.0 (test3) compiled 22:43:36 Dec 26 2010 If I run the debug it shows many things, even mouse moves inside patches. .xa16b0f8.c coords .xa16b0f8.ta16b898R 246 183 278 183 278 200 246 200 246 183 .xa16b0f8.c itemconfigure .xa16b0f8.ta16b898R -dash - .xa16b0f8.c select clear .xa16b0f8.c icursor .xa16b0f8.ta16b898 0 .xa16b0f8.c focus .xa16b0f8.ta16b898 Probably its just garbage for your purpose, but its output :) -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I agree avoiding horizontal connections is good. the 5% of the time when segmented patch cord are useful is when you need to take a patch cord from the bottom to the top of a patch to make a loop. You mean that you only need to make loops 5 % of the time ? geez. What does 5 % of the time mean ? Is it 5 % of the patches or 5 % of the cords ? But it's really not only about loops. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] GridFlow 9.13
The link for the OSX package on gridflow.ca is for 9.12. .mmb On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Although GridFlow 9.13 was released as source on 8 february, this announcement comes late, on 21 february, because the executable packages were not ready. Furthermore, this time, we have only executable packages for OSX-Intel and Windows. Get it at http://gridflow.ca/ Now here's the usual ChangeLog. -8découpez-ici8- version 9.13 (2011.02.08): * added classes [azerty_piano], [hpgl_to_lines], [hpgl_objectbox], [hpgl_messagebox], [hpgl_from_patch], [#draw_lattice] * [#expr]: added functions if, pow (numop ** aliased to pow) * numop1: added fact (factorial or gamma function which is not [# gamma]) * numop1: added log2, log10, C.log2, C.log10, unary+ * numop1: aliased log and C.log to ln and C.ln * numop1: added asin acos atan asinh acosh atanh * [#]: don't check type of right-grid when one-input operator * [#]: fix one-input vecop support (complex numbers) * [#]: don't ask for N elements in right inlet for a one-input operator * [#expr]: fixed several parsing bugs * numop2 weight becomes a numop1 (single inlet) * x11 is now a load-time option * [#io.x11]: added methods query_pointer and out_size_minimum * [route3]: fixed right outlet bug * parens in messages are no longer parsed automatically as nested-lists. (parens in objectboxes still are, of course) * [gf/find_file] now looks up relative names in gridflow/images even when they contain a slash (or several). * [gf/error]: added method 'uplevel' * [#in] and [#out]: in case of unknown suffix, say 'not open' afterwards * [#redim]: argument defaults to () * former numop atan renamed to atan2cd * [#inner] and [#convolve]: add seedless mode (without typecheck annoyance) * [unix_time]: fixed the month number bug * [#fold]: much faster in the case folding over a dim that has only 1 index * [#from_pix]: much faster rgba-rgba conversion * [#from_pix]: added conversion to colorspace y * [#from_pix]: added conversion from [pix_grey] mode * osx package gets MMX support (on Intel) * osx package gets libquicktime support (including encoding) * the win32 package is back ! * pdp support missing in source package (by accident; fixed in 9.14) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Mike Moser-Booth mmoserbo...@gmail.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Create duplicate patch in realtime
Hmmm, I tried with both: $ /Applications/Pd-0.43-0test4.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd -d 1 Pt_Start() called blksize 64, advance 17 and $ /Applications/Pd-0.42-5.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd -d 1 Pt_Start() called These aren't compiled myself but rather downloaded from - http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html. I tried making several objects, connections etc... still no luck. Is there a certain debug level you have to be on? Trying 0...5 still didn't do anything. Errors are being logged though, like when I couldn't save it to a directory: Tue Feb 22 17:06:45 Joe-Computer.local Pd[3185] Error: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: _CGSFindSharedWindow: WID 3870 Tue Feb 22 17:06:45 Joe-Computer.local Pd[3185] Error: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they are logged. Tue Feb 22 17:06:45 Joe-Computer.local Pd[3185] Error: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSGetWindowTags: Invalid window 0xf1e Just not the commands :S Thanks, Joe On 22 February 2011 16:18, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: My version was compiled from source pedro@io:~/Apps/pdfont/pure-data/bin$ ./pd -version Pd-0.43.0 (test3) compiled 22:43:36 Dec 26 2010 If I run the debug it shows many things, even mouse moves inside patches. .xa16b0f8.c coords .xa16b0f8.ta16b898R 246 183 278 183 278 200 246 200 246 183 .xa16b0f8.c itemconfigure .xa16b0f8.ta16b898R -dash - .xa16b0f8.c select clear .xa16b0f8.c icursor .xa16b0f8.ta16b898 0 .xa16b0f8.c focus .xa16b0f8.ta16b898 Probably its just garbage for your purpose, but its output :) -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd suddenly huge in Russia
I have this recurring dream when I'm under deadline for a patch: Cleveland (it's always Cleveland) is going to be attacked by a nuclear weapon, and it is up to ME, armed with Pd, to write a patch that defuses the bomb and saves Cleveland. It is a huge responsibility. is it related to some kind of new non-open source cold war? no way ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] GridFlow 9.13
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Mike Moser-Booth wrote: The link for the OSX package on gridflow.ca is for 9.12. Wow, all this work and I forget to put the correct link. Thanks. It's fixed now. Please reload to see the change. Get it at http://gridflow.ca/ ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Create duplicate patch in realtime
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-22 18:08, Joe White wrote: Hmmm, I tried with both: $ /Applications/Pd-0.43-0test4.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd -d 1 you are calling the GUI which in turn opens the Pd-core, but without the proper arguments. either do: $ /Applications/Pd-0.43-0test4.app/Contents/Ressources/bin/pd -d 1 or use the preference menu, to set -d 1 as one of the startup flags, and restart. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1j8NIACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRDiwCdHX5DaA+Ue9EgjrkZQDfFrsyr 0EIAoMzu/U3kC4FsYV7PZlfZxYnvDcn4 =K6dt -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd suddenly huge in Russia
hmmm ya, zee symbol of Cleveland represent zee Mother's breast... Seriously Matt, patching dreams are pretty common from what I can make out - those and zombie attacks in a shopping mall. Sign of the times. a. On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:13:20 -0500 Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com wrote: I have this recurring dream when I'm under deadline for a patch: Cleveland (it's always Cleveland) is going to be attacked by a nuclear weapon, and it is up to ME, armed with Pd, to write a patch that defuses the bomb and saves Cleveland. It is a huge responsibility. is it related to some kind of new non-open source cold war? no way ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DIY Biosensing wearable device and PureData
Thanks Richie, the hardware is very very simple. Even though it probably need to become slightly more complex to satisfy all the needs of the project. (Like wireless transmission of the signal, which is not necessary, but would be great) I'll keep the list updated, Best! M On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, Marco. Amazing. Love to see more of this and get a look at the hardware and the patch. This is right up my alley. Thank you very much fro sharing. cheers Richard -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd suddenly huge in Russia
--- On Tue, 2/22/11, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Pd suddenly huge in Russia To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 6:13 PM I have this recurring dream when I'm under deadline for a patch: Cleveland (it's always Cleveland) is going to be attacked by a nuclear weapon, and it is up to ME, armed with Pd, to write a patch that defuses the bomb and saves Cleveland. It is a huge responsibility. is it related to some kind of new non-open source cold war? no way ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list boom.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Akai LPD8 Pd Abstraction
Greetings List, I put together a clean-looking patch for use with Akai's LPD8 controller. Nothing fancy here, just a nice way to interface it with OSC. Thought I would post it here in the hopes that it might save someone else a little time in the future if they happen to be using the same hardware. cheers, Pat Description: A simple patch to be used as an abstraction giving graphical feedback regarding the state of Akai's LPD8 knobs and trigger pads. This patch provides routing options for OSC as well. Click on the Info toggle for instructions on its use. Click the OSC toggle to configure your OSC settings, then click the 1/0 toggle to turn OSC on or off. This patch requires the mrpeach library for the [udpsend] and [packOSC] objects. -- 'Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow.' LPD8.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-kinect-skeleton
hi guys, a strange trouble happened here, but reading documetations a little bit more, i've solved it, before to send my doubts ;) just to share this trick: if your osceleton is running well, in the same osc port of you patch, to start to receive the /joint data, you need to do the amazing PSI POSE. doing the PSI POSE, you will turn on your osceleton, and everything will run fine. thanks hans and phillipe to share their work. hope to see you soon guys. cheers palm 2011/2/21 philippe boisnard philem...@mac.com No problem with snow leopard, I work since 2 months with look this video http://www.vimeo.com/20050533 it's an extract of the performance with the french dancer Estelle de Montalembert that we have presented in Germany, there is two days if you have installed Open nit, use this you have in the patch good variables and the sceleton Le 19 févr. 2011 à 19:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Hi I have snow leopard and a kinect and would love to try this out, but I am a little confused by the insane flurry of emails regarding this. Does the kinect work with pd? What does one need to build or prepare for the patches to work? Thanks in advance pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- twitt-me: @ricardopalmieri mobile# +551185833173 [memelab.com.br] [palm.estudiolivre.org] [myspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-kinect-skeleton
Where did you find the psi pose documentation? I can't find it. Also I found that if I use the osceleton made by the tryplex quartz composer group I get a usable configuration almost instantly Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:55 PM, palmieri, ricardo ricardopalmi...@gmail.commailto:ricardopalmi...@gmail.com wrote: hi guys, a strange trouble happened here, but reading documetations a little bit more, i've solved it, before to send my doubts ;) just to share this trick: if your osceleton is running well, in the same osc port of you patch, to start to receive the /joint data, you need to do the amazing PSI POSE. doing the PSI POSE, you will turn on your osceleton, and everything will run fine. thanks hans and phillipe to share their work. hope to see you soon guys. cheers palm 2011/2/21 philippe boisnard mailto:philem...@mac.comphilem...@mac.commailto:philem...@mac.com No problem with snow leopard, I work since 2 months with look this video http://www.vimeo.com/20050533http://www.vimeo.com/20050533 it's an extract of the performance with the french dancer Estelle de Montalembert that we have presented in Germany, there is two days if you have installed Open nit, use this you have in the patch good variables and the sceleton Le 19 févr. 2011 à 19:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Hi I have snow leopard and a kinect and would love to try this out, but I am a little confused by the insane flurry of emails regarding this. Does the kinect work with pd? What does one need to build or prepare for the patches to work? Thanks in advance pp ___ mailto:Pd-list@iem.at Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ mailto:Pd-list@iem.atPd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- twitt-me: @ricardopalmieri mobile# +551185833173 [http://memelab.com.brmemelab.com.brhttp://memelab.com.br] [http://palm.estudiolivre.orgpalm.estudiolivre.orghttp://palm.estudiolivre.org] [http://myspace.com/livenoisetupimyspace.com/livenoisetupihttp://myspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: mailto:ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br ricardopalmi...@bol.com.brmailto:ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-kinect-skeleton
hi pagano... the psi pose in a first look, is concerned to NITE. i found this tip here: http://www.keyboardmods.com/2010/12/howto-kinect-openninite-skeleton.html http://www.keyboardmods.com/2010/12/howto-kinect-openninite-skeleton.htmlcould you send me some link about this tryplex qc group? lets share... palm 2011/2/22 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Where did you find the psi pose documentation? I can't find it. Also I found that if I use the osceleton made by the tryplex quartz composer group I get a usable configuration almost instantly Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:55 PM, palmieri, ricardo ricardopalmi...@gmail.com wrote: hi guys, a strange trouble happened here, but reading documetations a little bit more, i've solved it, before to send my doubts ;) just to share this trick: if your osceleton is running well, in the same osc port of you patch, to start to receive the /joint data, you need to do the amazing PSI POSE. doing the PSI POSE, you will turn on your osceleton, and everything will run fine. thanks hans and phillipe to share their work. hope to see you soon guys. cheers palm 2011/2/21 philippe boisnard philem...@mac.comphilem...@mac.com No problem with snow leopard, I work since 2 months with look this video http://www.vimeo.com/20050533http://www.vimeo.com/20050533 it's an extract of the performance with the french dancer Estelle de Montalembert that we have presented in Germany, there is two days if you have installed Open nit, use this you have in the patch good variables and the sceleton Le 19 févr. 2011 à 19:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Hi I have snow leopard and a kinect and would love to try this out, but I am a little confused by the insane flurry of emails regarding this. Does the kinect work with pd? What does one need to build or prepare for the patches to work? Thanks in advance pp ___ Pd-list@iem.atPd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.atPd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- twitt-me: @ricardopalmieri mobile# +551185833173 [ http://memelab.com.brmemelab.com.br] [ http://palm.estudiolivre.orgpalm.estudiolivre.org] [ http://myspace.com/livenoisetupimyspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: ricardopalmi...@bol.com.brricardopalmi...@bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] -- twitt-me: @ricardopalmieri mobile# +551185833173 [memelab.com.br] [palm.estudiolivre.org] [myspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd suddenly huge in Russia?
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:05:30AM +0100, pierlu wrote: Given that 84% of dowloads are from russia and 84% of OSes are of type Unknown... I guess that those are not regular users... As of why so many downloads... I cannot even imagine something stupid to say. p. I had this feeling without even looking at OS stats! even having Putin's pro-Linux policies in mind, doesn't make you believe that PD would become next to none! perpas Apache is more like to have 30% (at max) of downloads from Russian IPs .. Well a torrent client would hit the 70%, for godsake may be! lol :) On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:36 AM, palmieri, ricardo ricardopalmi...@gmail.com wrote: is it related to some kind of new non-open source cold war? no way palm 2011/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I was just looking at the download statistics, and it seems there was an insane burst of downloads from Russia recently: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.42.5/stats/timeline?dates=2011-01-01+to+2011-02-22 Anyone have any ideas on why? .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- twitt-me: @ricardopalmieri mobile# +551185833173 [memelab.com.br] [palm.estudiolivre.org] [myspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
Hi All tried quickly L2Ork with Gridflow 9.14 and both are working great-big thanks :) Off topic Mathieu but has Gridflow 9.14 been tested with the vanilla Pd 0.43-0 test versions? Thanks again On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: oops!Apologies Mathieu, it was meant for list, rather just an email to you directly I have all of those libraries installed, so I will download Gridflow again shortly for those additions- the object [#to_pdp] is working and and can display output, so I am using that for meantime Thanks to all for looking into this, it's great to have gridflow going on L2Ork pd-extended for a good set up ! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote: I have replaced the g_canvas.h with the version from L2Ork pd-extended and recomplided gridflow- yes it is stable now. However some objects are not loading/working specifically [#see] and [#out window]. I am replying back to the list because it looks like your email doesn't have private content, even though you wrote it to just me. The problem with [#see] must have to do with changes specific to L2Ork. Do you get a crash ? It has to do with the NEWWB macro in src/classes_gui.cxx, which allocates a t_widgetbehavior, but does not set the 8th field. To do this in a way that is also compatible with pd-extended's g_canvas.h, we have to add a CLEAR(wb) right there (it's just a memset shortcut). I'm adding it now. [#out window] is an alias for any of the 3 main image display handlers : [#out x11], [#out sdl], [#out quartz]. (there are two more, [#out aalib] and [#see], that aren't accessible by [#out window]). To get [#out x11] working, you need to have enough .h files installed. Perhaps you need libx11-dev, libxext-dev, and/or libxt-dev. They're not listed in README. I'm adding them now. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-kinect-skeleton
Hi palm! I love sharing and have learned so much pd through the generosity and guidance of people on this list. I spent a few hours struggling with the OpenNI, Nite and avin stuff which all built but I got pretty frustrated — and perhaps it's because I was not doing the proper poses, so I bgean looking at processing versions of kinect hacks and because I am on mac the Quartz Composer hacks/builds as well. Well I stumbled upon the tryplex version and gave it a try but I really wanted to test and use the kinect with pd, of course. Well I found that following the directions 1.) opening a terminal window 2.) simply dragging and dropping the pre-built osceleton included into it Double clicking gave a funny no classic environment error Then I used the pd examples that Hans had shared with it and I got New User and a good configuration almost everytime with it. Here is the link I found and used http://code.google.com/p/tryplex/ I was able to run the pd examples and they worked and sounded great almost immediately I hope this helps you and others. I am excited to build a mobile pd mocap with a few kinects with this. Please share a patch or whatever results you like cheers~ pp From: palmieri, ricardo ricardopalmi...@gmail.commailto:ricardopalmi...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:27:30 -0500 To: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Cc: philippe boisnard philem...@mac.commailto:philem...@mac.com, Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.atmailto:pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd-kinect-skeleton hi pagano... the psi pose in a first look, is concerned to NITE. i found this tip here: http://www.keyboardmods.com/2010/12/howto-kinect-openninite-skeleton.html http://www.keyboardmods.com/2010/12/howto-kinect-openninite-skeleton.htmlcould you send me some link about this tryplex qc group? lets share... palm 2011/2/22 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edumailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Where did you find the psi pose documentation? I can't find it. Also I found that if I use the osceleton made by the tryplex quartz composer group I get a usable configuration almost instantly Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:55 PM, palmieri, ricardo ricardopalmi...@gmail.commailto:ricardopalmi...@gmail.com wrote: hi guys, a strange trouble happened here, but reading documetations a little bit more, i've solved it, before to send my doubts ;) just to share this trick: if your osceleton is running well, in the same osc port of you patch, to start to receive the /joint data, you need to do the amazing PSI POSE. doing the PSI POSE, you will turn on your osceleton, and everything will run fine. thanks hans and phillipe to share their work. hope to see you soon guys. cheers palm 2011/2/21 philippe boisnard mailto:philem...@mac.comphilem...@mac.commailto:philem...@mac.com No problem with snow leopard, I work since 2 months with look this video http://www.vimeo.com/20050533http://www.vimeo.com/20050533 it's an extract of the performance with the french dancer Estelle de Montalembert that we have presented in Germany, there is two days if you have installed Open nit, use this you have in the patch good variables and the sceleton Le 19 févr. 2011 à 19:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Hi I have snow leopard and a kinect and would love to try this out, but I am a little confused by the insane flurry of emails regarding this. Does the kinect work with pd? What does one need to build or prepare for the patches to work? Thanks in advance pp ___ mailto:Pd-list@iem.at Pd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ mailto:Pd-list@iem.atPd-list@iem.atmailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- twitt-me: @ricardopalmieri mobile# +551185833173 [http://memelab.com.brmemelab.com.brhttp://memelab.com.br] [http://palm.estudiolivre.orgpalm.estudiolivre.orghttp://palm.estudiolivre.org] [http://myspace.com/livenoisetupimyspace.com/livenoisetupihttp://myspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: mailto:ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br ricardopalmi...@bol.com.brmailto:ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] -- twitt-me: @ricardopalmieri mobile# +551185833173 [memelab.com.brhttp://memelab.com.br] [palm.estudiolivre.orghttp://palm.estudiolivre.org] [myspace.com/livenoisetupihttp://myspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: ricardopalmi...@bol.com.brmailto:ricardopalmi...@bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
Great! Thanks for the report. This was definitely on my todo list. BTW There have been a lot of unannounced releases of pd-l2ork lately so you may want to check it out. Latest release alone includes universal copy and paste and many other usability improvements. Cheers! ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All tried quickly L2Ork with Gridflow 9.14 and both are working great-big thanks :) Off topic Mathieu but has Gridflow 9.14 been tested with the vanilla Pd 0.43-0 test versions? Thanks again On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: oops!Apologies Mathieu, it was meant for list, rather just an email to you directly I have all of those libraries installed, so I will download Gridflow again shortly for those additions- the object [#to_pdp] is working and and can display output, so I am using that for meantime Thanks to all for looking into this, it's great to have gridflow going on L2Ork pd-extended for a good set up ! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote: I have replaced the g_canvas.h with the version from L2Ork pd-extended and recomplided gridflow- yes it is stable now. However some objects are not loading/working specifically [#see] and [#out window]. I am replying back to the list because it looks like your email doesn't have private content, even though you wrote it to just me. The problem with [#see] must have to do with changes specific to L2Ork. Do you get a crash ? It has to do with the NEWWB macro in src/classes_gui.cxx, which allocates a t_widgetbehavior, but does not set the 8th field. To do this in a way that is also compatible with pd-extended's g_canvas.h, we have to add a CLEAR(wb) right there (it's just a memset shortcut). I'm adding it now. [#out window] is an alias for any of the 3 main image display handlers : [#out x11], [#out sdl], [#out quartz]. (there are two more, [#out aalib] and [#see], that aren't accessible by [#out window]). To get [#out x11] working, you need to have enough .h files installed. Perhaps you need libx11-dev, libxext-dev, and/or libxt-dev. They're not listed in README. I'm adding them now. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Strings.
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Bryan Jurish wrote: True. But while I can guarantee this for string-like operations, I can't seem to finagle it for pd, which insists on treating arrays (at least those defined at the patch level) as t_float[]s (looks like the culprit here is garray_save() calling binbuf_addv() to buffer the array Oh, if you need to save the array using Pd's existing mechanisms, yeah, you shouldn't use anything else than Pd's way of storing data. (But do you really want to use arrays ?) reinterpret_cast doesn't exist. there's only (char*)expr (cf. Kernighan Ritchie, 1988) :-P sorry for being pedantic; you are of course correct that reinterpret_cast is the C++ equivalent for what I'm doing; I just think it's too much to type, which is yet another thing I dislike about C++ ... I'm just talking about it as a concept. I don't ever use that C++ keyword and I don't know what it's good for. I mean only the typecasts that change pointers into other, potentially irrelevant pointer-types. Those exist both in C and in C++, and they exist in C++ regardless of the actual use of the reinterpret_cast keyword (which seems like little more than a waste of characters in a text file). I only use C++ for the shortcuts, not for the... longcuts. anyhoo, ok: I can (ab)use typecasts using (t_word*) instead of (t_float*). My original gripes (1C) and (1D) still hold: this breaks on save/load of patches, if string data is to be saved with its array. Therefore you are going to store one 'wchar' per float ? Fine. Now you don't need to store a string length, right ? I still think the idea of using arrays for strings is intriguing, not least for the sheer amount of abuse potential arising from combining text bytes and audio signals in the same arrays... You can already plug [#tabread] into [#to_s] to make nice symbols, or send a symbol to [#import] plugged to a [#tabwrite], to write funny things into tables. People can abuse things already. It's fun. but I find it horribly nasty to waste more than half of the memory allocated Store the big text in an external that is shielded from the niceness of Pd. (ok, the strings-as-lists-of-floats waste even more, but that's explicit and open about its hackery; putting byte values into floats under the hood and calling the result string would be cunning, devious, and underhanded hackery... or something like that) How about using plain symbols as strings, and then perform a giant mark-and-sweep (split into realtime-friendly parts using clock_delay()) to delete all the unused ones ? (just kidding). Now we're on to method (2). The show-stopper for me here is argument (2B): external APIs. Under this method, every time I want my pd string as a C string, I have to explicitly convert it, and vice versa, which takes additional buffers, possibly (re-)allocations, and O(N) time. This is all likely to happen only at the control level, so maybe that's not system critical either. Messages are as realtime-critical as DSP, as they run in the same thread. If you don't run DSP, then messages may be realtime-critical anyway : it depends on when you need things to happen. If using live MIDI/OSC/etc control, then the stuff is realtime-critical. But it's very possible that O(N)-conversions aren't going to be noticeably slower for what you're doing. How much % CPU would it really take ? Being able to easily incorporate external string-processing APIs (e.g. the C library string handling routines) The C library's string processing is made of really basic stuff that is about as easy to rewrite as it is to wrap. Thus you may as well rewrite them for any number type you choose to use. But GridFlow isn't vanilla either. How many solutions do you want to reject ? n-1, for some natural number n. sorry, can't be more specific yet. If you absolutely want solutions to get into vanilla, there's only one person you have to talk to. Honestly, if I had a pressing need for handling large-ish amounts of text data in pd, I would probably look to GridFlow. For text processing, GridFlow's biggest problem is that it doesn't support arrays-of-strings of any kind. You can't make grids of variously-sized grids, and you can't make lists of grids either. But lists of grids are like lists of lists, Pd doesn't have any reference-counting, and thus it's quite futile for me to try to allow lists-of-grids now. (the other reason why you can't have lists-of-grids is that those atoms can't be assigned : they're not really grids, they're grid-sender handles.) As it is, I usually wind up trying to get all my string processing done outside of pd, and passing the data back and forth via OSC or (brace yourself) the filesystem, where the strings wind up as symbols, and put a good deal of stress on pd's symbol table, but hey... it explodes only very rarely... How many symbols that is ? As you go many times over the size of the table, gensym() can get
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: BTW There have been a lot of unannounced releases of pd-l2ork lately so you may want to check it out. Latest release alone includes universal copy and paste and many other usability improvements. What's universal copy and paste ? Is that like DesireData's direct copy-paste to/from text editor, web browser, etc., and between different instances of pd ? I mean you can put #X obj 42 42 foo; in the system clipboard and paste it as a [foo] box in DesireData. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?
I just skimmed your changes, but I think that#39;s a great addition to the docs. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
Not as comprehensive (no web browser and between instances of PDF beyond what tcl/tk clipboard offers). I wasn't even aware that desiredata did that :-). Best wishes, Ico Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: BTW There have been a lot of unannounced releases of pd-l2ork lately so you may want to check it out. Latest release alone includes universal copy and paste and many other usability improvements. What's universal copy and paste ? Is that like DesireData's direct copy-paste to/from text editor, web browser, etc., and between different instances of pd ? I mean you can put #X obj 42 42 foo; in the system clipboard and paste it as a [foo] box in DesireData. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
