Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
Thanks, looks promising. I will test them both! http://www.maplemidi.com/Maple_driver.html http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html I used MIDI yoke long time ago but it seems that it is not updated any more for newer windows os. The MIDI router question is for recommendations for students of mine. I run also Ubuntu sometimes but never or very seldom OSX. Maybe it could be something to have on Pd web site with some recommendations about this as I guess it is something that many new users wants to start exploring - to use Pd as a MIDI engine for other softwares!? So to extend a little what is the best MIDI routers (in general) for -Linux -OS X ? All the best, Björn On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Windows 7 use midi maple I think or loopbe Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com wrote: This might be very obvious, but has someone a good open source suggestion for routing MIDI between Pd and other applications on a windows machine? Is JACK the alternative to go for? I bet there is a lot of hits if I google it, but I prefer to raise this question here... Happy for any hints! /Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
Hi, Despite the warnings, midiYoke and midiOx both work with Windows vista and 7, either 32bits and 64 bits. No problem what so ever here. Cheers Pierre-Olivier On 29/10/2012 07:04, Björn Eriksson wrote: Thanks, looks promising. I will test them both! http://www.maplemidi.com/Maple_driver.html http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html I used MIDI yoke long time ago but it seems that it is not updated any more for newer windows os. The MIDI router question is for recommendations for students of mine. I run also Ubuntu sometimes but never or very seldom OSX. Maybe it could be something to have on Pd web site with some recommendations about this as I guess it is something that many new users wants to start exploring - to use Pd as a MIDI engine for other softwares!? So to extend a little what is the best MIDI routers (in general) for -Linux -OS X ? All the best, Björn On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Windows 7 use midi maple I think or loopbe Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com wrote: This might be very obvious, but has someone a good open source suggestion for routing MIDI between Pd and other applications on a windows machine? Is JACK the alternative to go for? I bet there is a lot of hits if I google it, but I prefer to raise this question here... Happy for any hints! /Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] array modification, segmented lines
Hi Peiman, I'm not exactly sure what it is you're looking for but I can definitely highly recommend William Brent's 'tabletool' for array manipulations. http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html (scroll down a bit). Cheers, Julian On 27 October 2012 23:17, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Are there any messages to draw functions of segmented lines (ideally with different types of interpolations) inside an array? Or does one need to create this manually by writing each array index? So I would like to be able to define segments by providing lists of start_position, segment_length, end_position. Many Thanks Peiman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] array modification, segmented lines
No problem, his stuff's great. On 29 October 2012 10:19, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julian, I found a hack for what I had in mind. But wow, this is amazing. I was in fact looking for something like this. Thanks Peiman On 29 October 2012 09:21, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peiman, I'm not exactly sure what it is you're looking for but I can definitely highly recommend William Brent's 'tabletool' for array manipulations. http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html (scroll down a bit). Cheers, Julian On 27 October 2012 23:17, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all, Are there any messages to draw functions of segmented lines (ideally with different types of interpolations) inside an array? Or does one need to create this manually by writing each array index? So I would like to be able to define segments by providing lists of start_position, segment_length, end_position. Many Thanks Peiman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
Hello Sebastian, Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least). Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets. With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. Thank you for your time, Sebastian -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
maybe this one? http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html cheers Zitat von Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com: This might be very obvious, but has someone a good open source suggestion for routing MIDI between Pd and other applications on a windows machine? Is JACK the alternative to go for? I bet there is a lot of hits if I google it, but I prefer to raise this question here... Happy for any hints! /Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
There is also loopMIDI http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/loopMIDI.html which works pretty well with what testing I've done on Win 7 with OpenFrameworks + ofxMidi (uses RtMidi). On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:00 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Pierre-Olivier Boulant po.boul...@free.fr Subject: Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines? Date: October 29, 2012 3:24:44 AM EDT To: Pd - list pd-list@iem.at Hi, Despite the warnings, midiYoke and midiOx both work with Windows vista and 7, either 32bits and 64 bits. No problem what so ever here. Cheers Pierre-Olivier Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
For Mac, I set up custom IAC in/out ports for PureData and use Midi Patchbay to connect other apps to them. On Linux, there is always aconnect aconnectgui or, if you're using jack, qjackctl. On Oct 29, 2012, at 2:05 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines? Date: October 29, 2012 2:04:43 AM EDT To: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu, Pd - list pd-list@iem.at Thanks, looks promising. I will test them both! http://www.maplemidi.com/Maple_driver.html http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html I used MIDI yoke long time ago but it seems that it is not updated any more for newer windows os. The MIDI router question is for recommendations for students of mine. I run also Ubuntu sometimes but never or very seldom OSX. Maybe it could be something to have on Pd web site with some recommendations about this as I guess it is something that many new users wants to start exploring - to use Pd as a MIDI engine for other softwares!? So to extend a little what is the best MIDI routers (in general) for -Linux -OS X ? All the best, Björn Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem on win7 64 bit
hi list, i have a workshop and it seems that Pd-extended 0.42.5 urent© crashes when the create message is sent to gemwin on computers running windows 7 64 bit. is there a solution for it? thx. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] blinky.at.or.at down
i just wanted to check the new builds and test them but it seems the server is not available. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem on win7 64 bit
it works here. less stable than on linux but works i have to check sound inputs (if ps3eye is connected it crashes.. don't know why) i suggest you go for gem 93.3 . and right click pd.exe/ properties execute in compatibility mode for xp sp3 and as administrator. some objects remain unstable (text2d an text3d, pix_video) but it basically works. on linux i have much better stability. 2012/10/29 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com: hi list, i have a workshop and it seems that Pd-extended 0.42.5 urent© crashes when the create message is sent to gemwin on computers running windows 7 64 bit. is there a solution for it? thx. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem on win7 64 bit
Am 29.10.2012 um 16:18 schrieb Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com: it works here. less stable than on linux but works i have to check sound inputs (if ps3eye is connected it crashes.. don't know why) i suggest you go for gem 93.3 . ok we did that and it's the same problem still. and right click pd.exe/ properties execute in compatibility mode for xp sp3 and as administrator. we did that too and it stil crashes it is win 7 pro 64 bit and has the newest quicktime installed. any other suggestion than switching to linux? some objects remain unstable (text2d an text3d, pix_video) but it basically works. on linux i have much better stability. 2012/10/29 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com: hi list, i have a workshop and it seems that Pd-extended 0.42.5 urent© crashes when the create message is sent to gemwin on computers running windows 7 64 bit. is there a solution for it? thx. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
I think the obvious way to do this is to hack a Bluetooth headset. You could attach the headset with cables to an existing audiointerface... The user just connects to a regular headset. On Oct 29, 2012 12:56 PM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sebastian, Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least). Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets. With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. Thank you for your time, Sebastian -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] blinky.at.or.at down
Should be back up. .hc On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Max wrote: i just wanted to check the new builds and test them but it seems the server is not available. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 beta release, its, almost done!
This happens to me too on OS X, but only with Portaudio! Using Jack everything's normal. Thanks Hello all, Any idea about that? Should I fill the bugtracker? It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that. Thanks in advance, best, n ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] blinky.at.or.at down
hm. it still doesn't work for me - is that my connection? IRC isn't working for me either at the moment Am 29.10.2012 um 17:11 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Should be back up. .hc On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Max wrote: i just wanted to check the new builds and test them but it seems the server is not available. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] blinky.at.or.at down
works for me... On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: hm. it still doesn't work for me - is that my connection? IRC isn't working for me either at the moment Am 29.10.2012 um 17:11 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Should be back up. .hc On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Max wrote: i just wanted to check the new builds and test them but it seems the server is not available. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] blinky.at.or.at down
hm. I need to be more precise: blinky.at.or.at works (Welcome to Your New Home in Cyberspace!) but http://blinky.at.or.at:/auto-build/latest/ is not (time out) Am 29.10.2012 um 18:04 schrieb András Murányi muran...@gmail.com: works for me... On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: hm. it still doesn't work for me - is that my connection? IRC isn't working for me either at the moment Am 29.10.2012 um 17:11 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Should be back up. .hc On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Max wrote: i just wanted to check the new builds and test them but it seems the server is not available. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] blinky.at.or.at down
Both work here. A firewall on your side...? On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: hm. I need to be more precise: blinky.at.or.at works (Welcome to Your New Home in Cyberspace!) but http://blinky.at.or.at:/auto-build/latest/ is not (time out) Am 29.10.2012 um 18:04 schrieb András Murányi muran...@gmail.com: works for me... On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: hm. it still doesn't work for me - is that my connection? IRC isn't working for me either at the moment Am 29.10.2012 um 17:11 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Should be back up. .hc On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Max wrote: i just wanted to check the new builds and test them but it seems the server is not available. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
Sorry Sebastian, you did not read correctly. I had a bluetooth headset included as a sound card in Aggregate Device, but not a phone. When I connect a phone via bluetooth it can be used for data transfer but not for audio. Like Simon suggested, you could try connect a bluetooth headset's output with cables to your computer sound card and have the user pair with that bluetooth headset. Not sure if the phone's wired headset would still function, it may be disabled when using bluetooth? Can't check at the moment. I had a very cheap but functional BCK-08 from dealextreme.com and a Jabra. Batteries of both are dead now after a few years. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Katja, Thank you for your reply. I did find a way to SEND audio to my phone via a wifi connection. A mac application called Airfoil allowed me to connect to my android phone (using this app called AirBubble). What I need is to send either the conversation happening on the phone to my computer or at least send what the mic is picking up on the phone to the computer. I'm wondering if I read correctly - did you say you were able to do this by turning your phone into an aggregate device, but that it had crazy latency? For my purposes thats not as important really! Could you please tell me how you did that? Best, Sebastian On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:52 AM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sebastian, Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least). Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets. With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. Thank you for your time, Sebastian -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] array modification, segmented lines
or you can use my abstraction [jmmmp/arrayedit], included in pd-extended. look around between the several functions. No problem, his stuff's great. On 29 October 2012 10:19, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julian, I found a hack for what I had in mind. But wow, this is amazing. I was in fact looking for something like this. Thanks Peiman On 29 October 2012 09:21, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peiman, I'm not exactly sure what it is you're looking for but I can definitely highly recommend William Brent's 'tabletool' for array manipulations. http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html (scroll down a bit). Cheers, Julian On 27 October 2012 23:17, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all, Are there any messages to draw functions of segmented lines (ideally with different types of interpolations) inside an array? Or does one need to create this manually by writing each array index? So I would like to be able to define segments by providing lists of start_position, segment_length, end_position. Many Thanks Peiman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] array modification, segmented lines
Thank you very much. I'm working on a table editor for Csound. Will send a working verison later tonight. Still getting my head around pd (coming from max). Finding arrays very nice to work with compared with max buffers! Best, Peiman On 29 October 2012 18:13, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: or you can use my abstraction [jmmmp/arrayedit], included in pd-extended. look around between the several functions. No problem, his stuff's great. On 29 October 2012 10:19, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julian, I found a hack for what I had in mind. But wow, this is amazing. I was in fact looking for something like this. Thanks Peiman On 29 October 2012 09:21, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peiman, I'm not exactly sure what it is you're looking for but I can definitely highly recommend William Brent's 'tabletool' for array manipulations. http://williambrent.**conflations.com/pages/**research.htmlhttp://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html (scroll down a bit). Cheers, Julian On 27 October 2012 23:17, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com** wrote: Dear all, Are there any messages to draw functions of segmented lines (ideally with different types of interpolations) inside an array? Or does one need to create this manually by writing each array index? So I would like to be able to define segments by providing lists of start_position, segment_length, end_position. Many Thanks Peiman __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...
hi *! am i the only one who thinks that non-configurable autoconnection to jack and alsa-midi ports is a) wrong and b) a major pain in the ass? is there a way to prevent pd from doing this? particularly in the alsa midi case, it's a really blatant misfeature, because in the presence of a software midi thru port, it will immediately create a parameter loop which will make any connected midi controller go wild and burn its motors. my preferred behaviour would be no autoconnect at all. second best option is configurable auto-connect ports. i wonder what the rationale behind the current behaviour is? i mean, pd is all about drawing wires, so surely a pd user can be expected to be able to connect his/her audio and midi ports correctly? best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
I think the cleanest way would be to write an app that saves audio conversations to a server, and then you can manipulate that saved audio anyway you like from PD. I found a bunch of apps that save conversations on SD card, but could not find any (in the limited searching I did) that have the potion of saving the data on a web location. Tyler On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Sebastian, you did not read correctly. I had a bluetooth headset included as a sound card in Aggregate Device, but not a phone. When I connect a phone via bluetooth it can be used for data transfer but not for audio. Like Simon suggested, you could try connect a bluetooth headset's output with cables to your computer sound card and have the user pair with that bluetooth headset. Not sure if the phone's wired headset would still function, it may be disabled when using bluetooth? Can't check at the moment. I had a very cheap but functional BCK-08 from dealextreme.com and a Jabra. Batteries of both are dead now after a few years. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Katja, Thank you for your reply. I did find a way to SEND audio to my phone via a wifi connection. A mac application called Airfoil allowed me to connect to my android phone (using this app called AirBubble). What I need is to send either the conversation happening on the phone to my computer or at least send what the mic is picking up on the phone to the computer. I'm wondering if I read correctly - did you say you were able to do this by turning your phone into an aggregate device, but that it had crazy latency? For my purposes thats not as important really! Could you please tell me how you did that? Best, Sebastian On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:52 AM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sebastian, Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least). Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets. With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. Thank you for your time, Sebastian -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mysterious segfault while receiving midi commands...
hi *! two days ago, my pd-based cue player (btw, new release at http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/software/CueFrog/) chashed and burned during a live show. not good. pd segfaulted while i had one six-channel instance of readanysf running and five more two-channel instances stopped, at the precise moment when i was sending a midi cc to stop the running player and another to start a new one, while i was at the same time moving a midi fader for volume control. unfortunately, i had core dumps disabled, and as luck would have it, the crash seems impossible to reproduce without an audience of 200 and a director to go ballistic. so unless someone has an audience simulator test scaffold: what are, in your experience, the most likely causes of such sudden segfaults, and are there workarounds or defensive practices which i could implement? i'm using the current releases of pd-vanilla, vbap and readanysf~. in case someone feels inclined to look at my programming style and lead me back to the path of righteousness, the actual show patch i was using on top of CueFrog is at http://stackingdwarves.net/download/pd-crash.pd looking forward to your ideas! best jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] windowing extended objetcs, mistakes on help files and how to make them into vanilla patches
On Oct 28, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I suggest that the bugs are in the descriptions rather than the objects yep, that is what I meant. It's actually no bug then, just some descriptive mistake, easily correctable by altering the comments in the help files. I was trying to get a hold of the author in here to warn him about it, but if needed I can file a bug report. I was also curious and asking how to make them into Pd vanilla patches. I was able to make them all as patches but the kaiser window, and the gaussian is a bit different too. Joe Sarlo is the author of the objects, but he hasn't been around here in many years. Ed made the help patches. Ed, could you commit the corrected files in to the SVN? I figure you two know this mathy stuff far better than me ;) .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com wrote: I think the obvious way to do this is to hack a Bluetooth headset. You could attach the headset with cables to an existing audiointerface... The user just connects to a regular headset. That's slightly less obvious than plugging in a stereo output cable from phone to sound card. There are also bluetooth audio devices (headset omitted) that have stereo outputs (here's one example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875981014nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwordscm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA ) A software only solution is more interesting though--good luck, I have no clue how you might do it, but I'll be reading to know if/how you do. Chuck On Oct 29, 2012 12:56 PM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sebastian, Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least). Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets. With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. Thank you for your time, Sebastian -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PKGBUILD of pd-extended 0.43-4 for Archers
Dear friends, I try to manage PKGBUILD of latest Pd-extended (svn git) + latest Gem (git) for arch. For me it's running, what makes me happy because I am one of the new Archers. It is here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22509 I have some questions: 1.) I need to do some fixes...corrected name of pdlua library in: externals/loaders/pdlua/src/Makefile ... not problem at all... 2.) I created an empty file in : externals/ekext/ninjacount-help.pd (0 bytes, it is needed for build, dont ask me why...) WHY IS THIS FILE MISSING ? 3.) It is going well on x_64 ? (What I really do is copypaste some code from older packege for x64 optimatization, not tested) 4.) How to create mime type for gnome in PKGBUILD (to have nice pd icons on pd files) ? 5.) Maybe a made some mistakes in dependecies etc. ??? so if is here some Master to manage this better I wolud appreciate that.. cheers -- Fero Kiraly www.cluster-ensemble.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...
Jörn, this is a quick shoot from the hips, perhaps it can help: * Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@stackingdwarves.net [2012-10-29 20:38]: hi *! am i the only one who thinks that non-configurable autoconnection to jack and alsa-midi ports is a) wrong and b) a major pain in the ass? IOhannes once wrote an external called (perhaps) [aconnect] or similar, which I think lets you do and choose alsa (midi) connections from within Pd. is there a way to prevent pd from doing this? particularly in the alsa midi case, it's a really blatant misfeature, because in the presence of a software midi thru port, it will immediately create a parameter loop which will make any connected midi controller go wild and burn its motors. If this is the case for the BCF2000 try using its U-3 or S-3 mode, where it will not echo the received midi data to its outputs. best, Jo my preferred behaviour would be no autoconnect at all. second best option is configurable auto-connect ports. i wonder what the rationale behind the current behaviour is? i mean, pd is all about drawing wires, so surely a pd user can be expected to be able to connect his/her audio and midi ports correctly? best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
* Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com [2012-10-29 21:12]: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com wrote: I think the obvious way to do this is to hack a Bluetooth headset. You could attach the headset with cables to an existing audiointerface... The user just connects to a regular headset. That's slightly less obvious than plugging in a stereo output cable from phone to sound card. There are also bluetooth audio devices (headset omitted) that have stereo outputs (here's one example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875981014nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwordscm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA ) A software only solution is more interesting though--good luck, I have no clue how you might do it, but I'll be reading to know if/how you do. Has anyone already suggested a SIP software phone that can talk to jack (perhaps via one of the alsa bridges)? best, Jo Chuck On Oct 29, 2012 12:56 PM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sebastian, Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at least). Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets. With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. Thank you for your time, Sebastian -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
On 30/10/12 06:13, Johanna Nowak wrote: * Charles Henryczhe...@gmail.com [2012-10-29 21:12]: A software only solution is more interesting though--good luck, I have no clue how you might do it, but I'll be reading to know if/how you do. Has anyone already suggested a SIP software phone that can talk to jack (perhaps via one of the alsa bridges)? Asterisk can talk to jack directly, and is very capable. It can make and receive calls, generate voice menus, deal with SIP, SMS etc etc. I did a project using some of that capacity along with Pd a few years ago. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...
On 30/10/12 06:12, Johanna Nowak wrote: Jörn, this is a quick shoot from the hips, perhaps it can help: * Jörn Nettingsmeiernetti...@stackingdwarves.net [2012-10-29 20:38]: is there a way to prevent pd from doing this? particularly in the alsa midi case, it's a really blatant misfeature, because in the presence of a software midi thru port, it will immediately create a parameter loop which will make any connected midi controller go wild and burn its motors. If this is the case for the BCF2000 try using its U-3 or S-3 mode, where it will not echo the received midi data to its outputs. The BCF2000 and the Pd sliders work very well together with feedback - not sure exactly which side does the work to allow the loopback to work well, but it does, it is possible to use those loops to give manual control from the BCF2000 at the same time as Pd sliders and calculated values are being used. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
For Mac, I set up custom IAC in/out ports for PureData and use Midi Patchbay to connect other apps to them. On Linux, there is always aconnect aconnectgui or, if you're using jack, qjackctl. Mac and Linux can also use PatchAge. Good software. http://drobilla.net/software/patchage/ Schiavoni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] array modification, segmented lines
also similar, you can try [jmmmp/bezier], for a one-segment cubic (?) bezier line. João Thank you very much. I'm working on a table editor for Csound. Will send a working verison later tonight. Still getting my head around pd (coming from max). Finding arrays very nice to work with compared with max buffers! Best, Peiman On 29 October 2012 18:13, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: or you can use my abstraction [jmmmp/arrayedit], included in pd-extended. look around between the several functions. No problem, his stuff's great. On 29 October 2012 10:19, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julian, I found a hack for what I had in mind. But wow, this is amazing. I was in fact looking for something like this. Thanks Peiman On 29 October 2012 09:21, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peiman, I'm not exactly sure what it is you're looking for but I can definitely highly recommend William Brent's 'tabletool' for array manipulations. http://williambrent.**conflations.com/pages/**research.htmlhttp://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html (scroll down a bit). Cheers, Julian On 27 October 2012 23:17, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com** wrote: Dear all, Are there any messages to draw functions of segmented lines (ideally with different types of interpolations) inside an array? Or does one need to create this manually by writing each array index? So I would like to be able to define segments by providing lists of start_position, segment_length, end_position. Many Thanks Peiman __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] array modification, segmented lines
Dear all, Are there any messages to draw functions of segmented lines (ideally with different types of interpolations) inside an array? Or does one need to create this manually by writing each array index? So I would like to be able to define segments by providing lists of start_position, segment_length, end_position. Many Thanks Peiman Hi Peiman and all Recently a friend asked me something like this. The interpolation of an array adding points / values just like tabwrite. I developed this external to him: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdinterpol/ For now it is only linear interpolation but I intend to develop other kinds soon. Cheers Schiavoni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PKGBUILD of pd-extended 0.43-4 for Archers
You'll want to use the Pd-extended 0.43 branch rather than trunk. I don't know if that's what you mean by latest. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource .hc On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Fero Kiraly wrote: Dear friends, I try to manage PKGBUILD of latest Pd-extended (svn git) + latest Gem (git) for arch. For me it's running, what makes me happy because I am one of the new Archers. It is here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22509 I have some questions: 1.) I need to do some fixes...corrected name of pdlua library in: externals/loaders/pdlua/src/Makefile ... not problem at all... 2.) I created an empty file in : externals/ekext/ninjacount-help.pd (0 bytes, it is needed for build, dont ask me why...) WHY IS THIS FILE MISSING ? 3.) It is going well on x_64 ? (What I really do is copypaste some code from older packege for x64 optimatization, not tested) 4.) How to create mime type for gnome in PKGBUILD (to have nice pd icons on pd files) ? 5.) Maybe a made some mistakes in dependecies etc. ??? so if is here some Master to manage this better I wolud appreciate that.. cheers -- Fero Kiraly www.cluster-ensemble.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PKGBUILD of pd-extended 0.43-4 for Archers
Also, for the details like mime types and menus, check out the debian sources. .hc On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Fero Kiraly wrote: Dear friends, I try to manage PKGBUILD of latest Pd-extended (svn git) + latest Gem (git) for arch. For me it's running, what makes me happy because I am one of the new Archers. It is here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22509 I have some questions: 1.) I need to do some fixes...corrected name of pdlua library in: externals/loaders/pdlua/src/Makefile ... not problem at all... 2.) I created an empty file in : externals/ekext/ninjacount-help.pd (0 bytes, it is needed for build, dont ask me why...) WHY IS THIS FILE MISSING ? 3.) It is going well on x_64 ? (What I really do is copypaste some code from older packege for x64 optimatization, not tested) 4.) How to create mime type for gnome in PKGBUILD (to have nice pd icons on pd files) ? 5.) Maybe a made some mistakes in dependecies etc. ??? so if is here some Master to manage this better I wolud appreciate that.. cheers -- Fero Kiraly www.cluster-ensemble.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@stackingdwarves.net wrote: hi *! am i the only one who thinks that non-configurable autoconnection to jack and alsa-midi ports is a) wrong and b) a major pain in the ass? is there a way to prevent pd from doing this? If you setup PD with more than one alsa midi port then it seems that autoconnect is automatically disabled. Probably the easiest workaround. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list