Re: [PD] Arduino/Raspberry comport issue

2013-11-11 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi,

Allen, Michael wrote:
 I’m using a Teensy to get data from Pots and switches into PD on a
 RPi. The teensy sketch is set to open serial at 9600 baud. In PD I
 have [comport devicename 9600]. It won’t receive data. When I change
 the object to [comport devicename 115200] it immediately opens and
 starts receiving data. I’m specifying the device name since it seems
 to be switching between port 1 and 0 for unknown reasons upon power
 cycling or unplugging, etc.

for the device name you can use the [devicename ( message instead
with port name rather than a port number.

Then use it like that: 

[loadbang]
|
[devicename /dev/serial/by-id/the-id-of-you-teensy, baud 9600 (
|
[comport]

This may solve the other problem.


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Re: [PD] Arduino/Raspberry comport issue

2013-11-11 Thread kubriel



It won?t receive data.
Hi! i was using RPi plenty of times headless without any problems with 
comport in pd, but usually running armarch linux.
but i was not using device name, but device nr, like [comport 0 9600] 
for uno, or [comport 4 9600] for duemilanove.


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Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX

2013-11-11 Thread peiman khosravi
It doesn't seem to be fully functional (on 10.7.5). It loads the plugin but
then I can't open the edit window of the plugin.

Best,
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On 11 November 2013 08:52, Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr
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  Here is a compiled version of vst~ that miller posted years ago on this
 list.
 I don't know if something newer exist.
 best,

 n

 Le 10/11/13 23:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :

 Hello

  i am building a mixing console for pd for a project and i would like to
 use either AUs or VSTs in it.
 Is there a VST/AU loader for pure data on mac?

  Also, I am curious what your favorite plugin is Free or Pay

  thanks for the answers!

  pp

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[PD] spectral mapping, anyone?

2013-11-11 Thread Jeppi Jeppi
Hi,just looking for some ready to be used spectral mapping effects implemented 
in pd, anything available?Specifically, just a way to slightly remap harmonics 
to make pitched sounds inharmonic.There is a paper by Alexandre 
http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/images/Dissonance_Model_Toolbox_in_Pure_Data.pdf
 but I couldn't find the link to the sources.

Many thanks in advance!Josep m
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[PD] Can't create boids objects

2013-11-11 Thread Jack
Hello,

After a 'make' I get boids2d.pd_linux and boids3d.pd_linux but can't
create objects under Pd.
When I try to create an object, i get in pd console :

./boids2d.pd_linux: ./boids2d.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
boids2d: can't load library
./boids3d.pd_linux: ./boids3d.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
boids3d: can't load library

What can I do/change to use these objects under Pd ?

Here my configuration :
Pd 0.45.0test 2
Last boids sources from
svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/boids

Thanx for help.
++

Jack



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Re: [PD] Can't create boids objects

2013-11-11 Thread Jack
Le 11/11/2013 16:00, Jack a écrit :
 Hello,

 After a 'make' I get boids2d.pd_linux and boids3d.pd_linux but can't
 create objects under Pd.
 When I try to create an object, i get in pd console :

 ./boids2d.pd_linux: ./boids2d.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
 boids2d: can't load library
 ./boids3d.pd_linux: ./boids3d.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
 boids3d: can't load library

 What can I do/change to use these objects under Pd ?

 Here my configuration :
 Pd 0.45.0test 2
 Last boids sources from
 svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/boids

 Thanx for help.
 ++

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Sorry for the noise, I didn't see that i have the both boids2d.pd_linux
and boids3d.pd_linux (old ones) in the folder where there is my patch.
I removed them and it is working fine now.
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Re: [PD] spectral mapping, anyone?

2013-11-11 Thread Jaime E Oliver
These are older, but I understand E. Lyon might re-release them?

http://www.somasa.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/

J



On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jeppi Jeppi jepp...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 just looking for some ready to be used spectral mapping effects implemented 
 in pd, anything available?
 Specifically, just a way to slightly remap harmonics to make pitched sounds 
 inharmonic.
 There is a paper by Alexandre 
 http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/images/Dissonance_Model_Toolbox_in_Pure_Data.pdf
  but I couldn't find the link to the sources.
 
 
 Many thanks in advance!
 Josep m
 
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[PD] using multiple asio devices

2013-11-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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hi all,

i wonder whether anybody found a solution on w32 to use multiple ASIO
devices at the same time.

background: we are using a multi-channel *input* (that is: no output)
soundcard (with only ASIO drivers).
we would like to hear what we are recording, so we need to access
another soundcard (with outputs) in the same instance of Pd.

let's assume that the two soundcards are synched somehow.

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IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Arduino/Raspberry comport issue

2013-11-11 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Are you sure the baud rate you set to [comport] is the same as the code you
load on your Arduino? That could be a problem..
If you send the [devices( message to [comport] what do you get in the
console?


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, kubriel kubr...@servus.at wrote:


  It won?t receive data.

 Hi! i was using RPi plenty of times headless without any problems with
 comport in pd, but usually running armarch linux.
 but i was not using device name, but device nr, like [comport 0 9600] for
 uno, or [comport 4 9600] for duemilanove.

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Re: [PD] using multiple asio devices

2013-11-11 Thread Miller Puckette
I've never done this (and Pd doesn't support multiple devices through
portaudio which is the only path into ASIO that I know of).  If I were
doing this I'd re-write s_audio_pa.c to support multiple portaudio
devices -- but I'm not sure ASIO itself is capable of this!

If it turns out that only one ASIO device may be open per process, the
only out I can see is to write an extern that kicks up a new process
(or perhaps use pd~ to make the process so that the extern need only
open ASIO within the existing process).  There will be sync issues.

cheers
Miller

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:59:26PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256
 
 hi all,
 
 i wonder whether anybody found a solution on w32 to use multiple ASIO
 devices at the same time.
 
 background: we are using a multi-channel *input* (that is: no output)
 soundcard (with only ASIO drivers).
 we would like to hear what we are recording, so we need to access
 another soundcard (with outputs) in the same instance of Pd.
 
 let's assume that the two soundcards are synched somehow.
 
 fgasmdr
 IOhannes
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[PD] Fwd: Arduino/Raspberry comport issue

2013-11-11 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
The baud rate issue seems strange, as the communicating devices should talk
and listen to the same baud rate...no idea, sorry.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Allen, Michael all...@spu.edu
Date: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Arduino/Raspberry comport issue
To: Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com


 The baud rate in the arduino code is 9600. But like I said, in pd it
doesn't seem to matter? If the first rate I try in the comport object is
9600 it won't connect. If I change to 115200 it will. Similarly if I close
the patch with 115200 saved and reopen it, the comport won't connect unless
I change the baud rate back to 9600. I haven't tried other speeds but I bet
they would do the same thing. It seems like it wants to do the opposite of
what I want it to do. A mind of its own.

 I have a message going to the comport object to open it. Either [open 0
9600( with whatever port [devices] tells me, or [devicename /dev/ttyAMA0
9600(



On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Are you sure the baud rate you set to [comport] is the same as the code
you load on your Arduino? That could be a problem..
 If you send the [devices( message to [comport] what do you get in the
console?


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, kubriel kubr...@servus.at wrote:


  It won?t receive data.

 Hi! i was using RPi plenty of times headless without any problems with
 comport in pd, but usually running armarch linux.
 but i was not using device name, but device nr, like [comport 0 9600] for
 uno, or [comport 4 9600] for duemilanove.

 kub

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Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX

2013-11-11 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Is it possible to compile it for 10.8?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:19 AM, peiman khosravi 
peimankhosr...@gmail.commailto:peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote:

It doesn't seem to be fully functional (on 10.7.5). It loads the plugin but 
then I can't open the edit window of the plugin.

Best,
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On 11 November 2013 08:52, Nicolas Montgermont 
nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.frmailto:nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr wrote:
Here is a compiled version of vst~ that miller posted years ago on this list.
I don't know if something newer exist.
best,

n

Le 10/11/13 23:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :
Hello

i am building a mixing console for pd for a project and i would like to use 
either AUs or VSTs in it.
Is there a VST/AU loader for pure data on mac?

Also, I am curious what your favorite plugin is Free or Pay

thanks for the answers!

pp

Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
Audio and Projection Design Faculty
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida, USA
(352)294-2020



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Re: [PD] using multiple asio devices

2013-11-11 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi,

IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 
 i wonder whether anybody found a solution on w32 to use multiple ASIO
 devices at the same time.
 
 background: we are using a multi-channel *input* (that is: no output)
 soundcard (with only ASIO drivers).

I'm not sure if it works for input, but asio4all build a virtual audio
device out of multiple sound cards.

Here we use it with  (sic) to get 14 channels with two 7.1
interfaces.

hth,

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Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX

2013-11-11 Thread Pagano, Patrick
I just tried on OSX 10.8.5, everything seems to work except as Peiman reported 
as well, the edit window does not create. It sees all the relevant info, 
ins/outs and parameters but no edit window.
Nicholas, do you have the source?
Perhaps we can ask Miller to compile a new one against 10.7/10.8 or 10.9
I have a great old abstraction by Leonard Swiezinski called called console 
written in 2002 that is perfect for the project we are working on and i would 
love to include a few VSTs for a fancy effect bus.
I can't use Windows or Linux because the project will include a MAC only 
program for video cues

cheers~

Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
Audio and Projection Design Faculty
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida, USA
(352)294-2020

From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pagano, 
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Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:08 PM
To: peiman khosravi
Cc: PD List; Nicolas Montgermont
Subject: Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX

Is it possible to compile it for 10.8?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:19 AM, peiman khosravi 
peimankhosr...@gmail.commailto:peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote:

It doesn't seem to be fully functional (on 10.7.5). It loads the plugin but 
then I can't open the edit window of the plugin.

Best,
Peiman




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On 11 November 2013 08:52, Nicolas Montgermont 
nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.frmailto:nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr wrote:
Here is a compiled version of vst~ that miller posted years ago on this list.
I don't know if something newer exist.
best,

n

Le 10/11/13 23:31, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :
Hello

i am building a mixing console for pd for a project and i would like to use 
either AUs or VSTs in it.
Is there a VST/AU loader for pure data on mac?

Also, I am curious what your favorite plugin is Free or Pay

thanks for the answers!

pp

Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
Audio and Projection Design Faculty
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida, USA
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Re: [PD] AU or VST loader for OSX

2013-11-11 Thread Nicolas Montgermont

Le 11/11/13 20:43, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :
 Nicholas, do you have the source? 
Infos here:
http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/vst
I've never seen the edit window working since I use this binary ( ~2010
iirc )
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[PD] PdWeekend Rampup Roundtable Brainstorming with Miller and Friends Nov 15 at UCSD

2013-11-11 Thread Joe Deken
We have some hopes of live networking more widely, but regardless of that
it seems worthwhile to post the agenda here quickly for Pd-folk  to
peruse.  And maybe insights will be provoked (on Pd-list and elsewhere) as
a good result.

Also ** Please remember ** if you were thinking of making a donation to
the New Blankets Artist-in-Transit mini-fundraiser for Jonathan Wilkes,
there are only a few days left to do that eligible for matching funding
from New Blankets.
Please e-mail me or e-mail the AIT fundraising address
wilkes_...@newblankets.org and let us know to set aside the match $$ for
you, if you like.  Many people of course have contributed ideas and
congratulations to Jonathan -- far more valuable but not accepted at the
beans-and-rice store, of course :)

The agenda below is also online/updated at
 http://newblankets.org/roundtable_agenda.html
(and you may save time/stop_reading now if you prefer to go there)



   PdWeekend Friday Ramp-Up Roundtable
  Brainstorming with Miller  Friends (UCSD Campus)

8:00A(1hr) VIP Promenade  Random Social Meandering (+ Room
   Setup) Coffee, Tea, Juice, Bagels ad lib

9:00A(30m) Sound Spatialization w/Hoa Library CICM/Paris 8 team
   ((live via network)) Guillot,Sèdes,Paris HoaLibrary allows musicians
   and composers to synthesize, transform and render sound fields in a
   creative and artistic way. This library facilitates the understanding
   and the appropriation of key concepts of Ambisonics. Thanks to original
   graphical interfaces, HoaLibrary offers a lot of new signal processing
   like diffuse sound field synthesis, perspective distortion or spatial
   filtering.

9:30A(30m) New Blankets and Puredata from the top and the roots.
   Rustomji Vania Gi Vania, one of the founders of New Blankets, will
   explore and discuss perspectives on how New Blankets and Pd synergy has
   developed since 2008 when Miller joined the founding Board. The
   Suitcase Supercomputer first built right here in Atkinson Hall out of
   PSP+cameras+Wifi (with Miller  many Friends and Friends of Friends),
   the first ever Fedora-Pd-extended Live Stick which Gi designed and
   produced with Hans-Christoph Steiner, the Pd+RPi workshops that he has
   enabled and participated in with Miller since the first 100 Pd+RPi kits
   arrived last year for circulation -- and more. Note: Without bringing a
   crystal ball to roll but with a new role at Southern Illinois
   University as Deputy Director for Research Computing and
   Cyberinfrastructure Gi will outline (and try to instigatediscussion of)
   New Blankets' possible best initiatives forward for 2014. In fact it
   seems likely that in 2014 the Venn diagrams of community open
   benevolent activity will show New Blankets in a much thicker overlap
   with mainline campus computing and professional/academic libraries.
   With his commitment to New Blankets and technical leadership role at
   SIU Gi is a principal architect of how New Blankets will find a good
   path forward -- with many universities, museums and cultural centers.
   And Mr. Gi is quite a good listener as well. So let the NB discussion
roll!

10:00A(30m) Recent Usability Improvements to Pd Jonathan Wilkes
 New Blankets Artist-in-Transit 2014 Overview of some usability
improvements to
   Pd, including info objects, documentation search engine,
   multi-connection shortcuts, and some new datastructure objects. Plus a
   few ideas for future improvements. [ITPS: It's the ponies, silly.]

10:30A(30m)

11:00A(30m) RaspberryPi rigging  cheap tricks + Sneak_Peek of Saturday
   AM Workshop Miller Puckette

11:30A(30m)   Break for Lunch

1:00P(30m) netpd Roman Haefeli netpd is a CRNMME (Collaborative
   Realtime Networked Music Making Environment) built in Pure Data. It
   allows many users to have a realtime jam sessions with each other,
   connected over the net. Users might contribute their own netpd-ized
   patches a.k.a. instruments or use pre-existing ones. The set of
   patches, as well as the state of each is synchronized between clients
   in order to provide identical experience for every connected user.

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   includes backbone nodes, typically on mountain tops, to connect often
   hard-to-reach areas in remote environments.

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   she's invented and constructed with and for Pd. She will also inspire
   with her performance skills -- thereby also offering a Sneak Peek of:
   her Saturday workshop, the Live Jam Saturday evening and the Patching
   Circle in one fell memorable 

Re: [PD] changing the position of arrays dynamically

2013-11-11 Thread tim vets
I got inspired to try out my take on this
so here's another variation
uses [list-splat] (list-abs), [tabdump] (sexy), and, although not
essential, [popup]
the redraw gets quite slow quite quickly with larger tables though...
gr,
Tim



2013/11/10 peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com

 Thanks for the info. I didn't know this object. Very useful.

 Best,
 Peiman





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 On 10 November 2013 16:50, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 It's less efficient than William's solution, but there's an array get
 object in Pd 0.45 that spits out a list of elements in an array that
 would also work.

 cheers
 Miller

 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 03:05:41PM +, Julian Brooks wrote:
  Thanks for the patch Peiman.
 
  Completely different but the same end-result as Michael's.
  And my learning moves on another small notch.
  (having one of those isn't Pd great moments:)
 
  BTW - [popup] was a new one on me but [tabletool]'s great.  If you
 haven't
  checked them out yet William Brent's other Pd stuff's recommended.
 
  Regards,
 
  Julian
 
 
  On 10 November 2013 12:00, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Thanks João,
  
   I'd love to see an example of that.
  
   Best,
   Peiman
  
  
  
  
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   On 10 November 2013 11:58, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote:
  
you could also use data structures to copy the arrays to the
 display,
   and superimpose and hide whichever necessary, e.g. also using
 different
   colors/thickness for each array. I don't have the time now to make an
   example, though. Maybe during the next days.
  
  
   OK, here it is.
  
   It needs two externals: 'tabletool' and 'Popup'. (OSX builds
 included in
   the zip file but I think they're distributed in pd_extended, in
 which case
   just modify [declare -path] in the patch.)
  
   Best,
   Peiman
  
  
  
  
  
  
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   On 9 November 2013 13:11, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   This is great. I also have a working example that I'll send later
 today
   once I've tidied it up. I'm using the tabletool external with
 horizontal
   zooming in and out of the array too.
  
   Will send it in a couple of hours.
  
   P
  
  
  
  
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   On 9 November 2013 12:06, michael noble loop...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Michael - would you mind knocking up a quick example
  
  
   This seems to work (roughly) so far as I understand Peiman's
 original
   request correctly. I can't vouch for it being the most efficient or
   bug-free solution. It polls the buffer array using a metro counter
 so that
   changes to the active table are updated on the fly. Switching the
 active
   table just dumps that table to the buffer array.
  
  
  
   #N canvas 555 248 450 300 10;
   #N canvas 553 638 450 300 gui 0;
   #N canvas 1 52 450 250 (subpatch) 0;
   #X array buffer 100 float 3;
   #A 0 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714
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 -262144
   -1 -1 0;
   #X coords 0 -1 1 1 200 200 2 100 50;
   #X restore 48 70 pd gui;
   #N canvas 1 52 450 300 tables 1;
   #X obj 46 27 table x1;
   #X obj 46 49 table x2;
   #X obj 46 71 table x3;
  

Re: [PD] changing the position of arrays dynamically

2013-11-11 Thread tim vets
*zexy that is :)


2013/11/11 tim vets timv...@gmail.com

 I got inspired to try out my take on this
 so here's another variation
 uses [list-splat] (list-abs), [tabdump] (sexy), and, although not
 essential, [popup]
 the redraw gets quite slow quite quickly with larger tables though...
 gr,
 Tim



 2013/11/10 peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com

 Thanks for the info. I didn't know this object. Very useful.

 Best,
 Peiman





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 On 10 November 2013 16:50, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 It's less efficient than William's solution, but there's an array get
 object in Pd 0.45 that spits out a list of elements in an array that
 would also work.

 cheers
 Miller

 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 03:05:41PM +, Julian Brooks wrote:
  Thanks for the patch Peiman.
 
  Completely different but the same end-result as Michael's.
  And my learning moves on another small notch.
  (having one of those isn't Pd great moments:)
 
  BTW - [popup] was a new one on me but [tabletool]'s great.  If you
 haven't
  checked them out yet William Brent's other Pd stuff's recommended.
 
  Regards,
 
  Julian
 
 
  On 10 November 2013 12:00, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Thanks João,
  
   I'd love to see an example of that.
  
   Best,
   Peiman
  
  
  
  
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   http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/*
  
  
   On 10 November 2013 11:58, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  
you could also use data structures to copy the arrays to the
 display,
   and superimpose and hide whichever necessary, e.g. also using
 different
   colors/thickness for each array. I don't have the time now to make
 an
   example, though. Maybe during the next days.
  
  
   OK, here it is.
  
   It needs two externals: 'tabletool' and 'Popup'. (OSX builds
 included in
   the zip file but I think they're distributed in pd_extended, in
 which case
   just modify [declare -path] in the patch.)
  
   Best,
   Peiman
  
  
  
  
  
  
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   http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News
   http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/*
  
  
   On 9 November 2013 13:11, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   This is great. I also have a working example that I'll send later
 today
   once I've tidied it up. I'm using the tabletool external with
 horizontal
   zooming in and out of the array too.
  
   Will send it in a couple of hours.
  
   P
  
  
  
  
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 RSS Feed
   http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News
   http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/*
  
  
   On 9 November 2013 12:06, michael noble loop...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Michael - would you mind knocking up a quick example
  
  
   This seems to work (roughly) so far as I understand Peiman's
 original
   request correctly. I can't vouch for it being the most efficient
 or
   bug-free solution. It polls the buffer array using a metro
 counter so that
   changes to the active table are updated on the fly. Switching the
 active
   table just dumps that table to the buffer array.
  
  
  
   #N canvas 555 248 450 300 10;
   #N canvas 553 638 450 300 gui 0;
   #N canvas 1 52 450 250 (subpatch) 0;
   #X array buffer 100 float 3;
   #A 0 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714
   -0.585714
   -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714
 -0.585714
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 -0.571428
   -0.571428 -0.571428 -0.557143 -0.557143 -0.557143 -0.557143
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 -0.542857
   -0.542857 -0.471428;
   #X coords 0 1 99 -1 200 140 1;
   #X restore 100 50 graph;
   #X obj 100 211 hradio 25 1 0 8 tablenum empty empty 0 -8 0 10
 -262144
   -1 -1 0;
   #X coords 0 -1 1 1 200 200 2 100 50;
   #X restore 48 70 pd gui;
   #N canvas 1 52 450 300 tables 1;
   #X obj 

Re: [PD] changing the position of arrays dynamically

2013-11-11 Thread Julian Brooks
Hey Tim,

Nice clear coding style, thanks for that.

Now where's Jonathan to tell us how much faster the redraw could be...:)

Miller's comment reminded me that I should really get to grips with some of
the new 0.45 stuff.

Regards,

Julian


On 11 November 2013 22:44, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote:

 *zexy that is :)


 2013/11/11 tim vets timv...@gmail.com

 I got inspired to try out my take on this
 so here's another variation
 uses [list-splat] (list-abs), [tabdump] (sexy), and, although not
 essential, [popup]
 the redraw gets quite slow quite quickly with larger tables though...
 gr,
 Tim



 2013/11/10 peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com

 Thanks for the info. I didn't know this object. Very useful.

 Best,
 Peiman





  *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS
 Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News
 http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/*


 On 10 November 2013 16:50, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 It's less efficient than William's solution, but there's an array get
 object in Pd 0.45 that spits out a list of elements in an array that
 would also work.

 cheers
 Miller

 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 03:05:41PM +, Julian Brooks wrote:
  Thanks for the patch Peiman.
 
  Completely different but the same end-result as Michael's.
  And my learning moves on another small notch.
  (having one of those isn't Pd great moments:)
 
  BTW - [popup] was a new one on me but [tabletool]'s great.  If you
 haven't
  checked them out yet William Brent's other Pd stuff's recommended.
 
  Regards,
 
  Julian
 
 
  On 10 November 2013 12:00, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Thanks João,
  
   I'd love to see an example of that.
  
   Best,
   Peiman
  
  
  
  
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   On 10 November 2013 11:58, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  
you could also use data structures to copy the arrays to the
 display,
   and superimpose and hide whichever necessary, e.g. also using
 different
   colors/thickness for each array. I don't have the time now to make
 an
   example, though. Maybe during the next days.
  
  
   OK, here it is.
  
   It needs two externals: 'tabletool' and 'Popup'. (OSX builds
 included in
   the zip file but I think they're distributed in pd_extended, in
 which case
   just modify [declare -path] in the patch.)
  
   Best,
   Peiman
  
  
  
  
  
  
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   On 9 November 2013 13:11, peiman khosravi 
 peimankhosr...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   This is great. I also have a working example that I'll send later
 today
   once I've tidied it up. I'm using the tabletool external with
 horizontal
   zooming in and out of the array too.
  
   Will send it in a couple of hours.
  
   P
  
  
  
  
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   http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News
   http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/*
  
  
   On 9 November 2013 12:06, michael noble loop...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
  
   On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Michael - would you mind knocking up a quick example
  
  
   This seems to work (roughly) so far as I understand Peiman's
 original
   request correctly. I can't vouch for it being the most efficient
 or
   bug-free solution. It polls the buffer array using a metro
 counter so that
   changes to the active table are updated on the fly. Switching
 the active
   table just dumps that table to the buffer array.
  
  
  
   #N canvas 555 248 450 300 10;
   #N canvas 553 638 450 300 gui 0;
   #N canvas 1 52 450 250 (subpatch) 0;
   #X array buffer 100 float 3;
   #A 0 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714
   -0.585714
   -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714 -0.585714
 -0.585714
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Re: [PD] [OT] Status of Fink packages

2013-11-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Fink still remains the best at handling complicated dependency chains, despite
its messiness of package names.  And Pd-extended needs things that have
complicated dependency chains.

If you are on a machine with fink on it, you can see what is installed by doing:

fink list json

And you'll see the version there.  If it has parens around the version, that
means an upgrade is available.

.hc

On 11/10/2013 11:26 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 Sorry, this may not help much but:
 
 Wow, I didn't realize Fink was still around. Most people I know (including 
 myself) are using Homebrew which currently has v0.11 json-c.
 
 I also did a check on Macports  they have v0.9 ... :(
 
 On Nov 10, 2013, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
 
 From: Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org
 Subject: [PD] [OT] Status of Fink packages
 Date: November 9, 2013 at 10:00:37 AM EST
 To: PD List pd-list@iem.at

 Hello,

 sorry for this off topic question, but I am requiring version 0.11 of
 json-c for the next release of PuREST JSON, and I do not have a Mac.

 Currently search for packages (http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php)
 on the Fink website does not load, and so I have no way to see the
 current version of json-c in it.

 Is there any other way to look up the version? If it has an older
 version, can someone please upgrade to 0.11
 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/json-c_releases/releases/index.html)?

 Thanks in advance,
 Thomas
 -- 
 Theoretically, [the amount of money in circulation] is watched
 carefully by clever, serious economists. In practice, all the world's
 money is one big swirling, whirling pool. (Cory Doctorow - For The Win)
 http://www.residuum.org/
 
 
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