Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
@peiman : I thought about something that creates ramp lines with a specific interpolations but I think you're right, the best way is to fill an array (much more efficient). So, now I offer a cosine interpolation and cubic interpolation, this is easy to use and if you add some points you can create interesting envelopes. @João : I think, it's better to have a specific object for bezier curves because there several ways to write bezier curves : all the points define a high order bezier curve (the curve never crosses the points) or each point has one or more control points (like in photoshop). 2014/1/3 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com yeah, I was finding the coffee library to be kind of reductant, these functionalities have already been achieved by other libraries in Pd Extended, but the GUI stuff is gold, I think it's time we could have something like that as an option in Pd Extended! 2014/1/3 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at On 2014-01-03 09:44, Pierre Guillot wrote: I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt anybody with this library. I never thought that the name was so important and I'll change it as soon as possible if it's your principal wish. i don't think you've hurt anybody; and so far the only one who has been complaining was me :-) i don't think there's a real problem with your jokes about flavours (coffee, cocoa, whatever), though there might be better - and more specific - names. as jonathan has pointed out, i myself am the author of a dumpster library with a general name: but this library is about 15 years old. (i think) all other libraries i've written since then are targetted at a specific problem (e.g. networking) and have a specific name (e.g. iemnet). as for dupes in coffee: + [c.loadmess] - iemlib's [init] - (iirc, there used to be a kind-of implementation in vanilla as well) + [c.pak] - pdmtl's [list.pak] + [c.patcherargs] - iemgut's [canvasargs] - jonathan's query system - flext + [c.patcherinfos] - iemgut's [canvasname], [canvasinfo] - jonathan's query system + [c.prepend] - vanilla's [list prepend]+[list strip] - iemlib's [prepend] - cyclone's [Prepend] gfdar IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
You can do the same with bezier curve, you don't click on a line segment but you move a control point. Cheers 2014/1/6 peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com Hi Pierre, Sounds great. Although I would love to see ej.function's (Max external) functionality here. Please see the attached screen recording. I'm alt+clicking on a line segment and dragging it to create a specific curve for each segment. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 6 January 2014 10:48, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com wrote: @peiman : I thought about something that creates ramp lines with a specific interpolations but I think you're right, the best way is to fill an array (much more efficient). So, now I offer a cosine interpolation and cubic interpolation, this is easy to use and if you add some points you can create interesting envelopes. @João : I think, it's better to have a specific object for bezier curves because there several ways to write bezier curves : all the points define a high order bezier curve (the curve never crosses the points) or each point has one or more control points (like in photoshop). 2014/1/3 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com yeah, I was finding the coffee library to be kind of reductant, these functionalities have already been achieved by other libraries in Pd Extended, but the GUI stuff is gold, I think it's time we could have something like that as an option in Pd Extended! 2014/1/3 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at On 2014-01-03 09:44, Pierre Guillot wrote: I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt anybody with this library. I never thought that the name was so important and I'll change it as soon as possible if it's your principal wish. i don't think you've hurt anybody; and so far the only one who has been complaining was me :-) i don't think there's a real problem with your jokes about flavours (coffee, cocoa, whatever), though there might be better - and more specific - names. as jonathan has pointed out, i myself am the author of a dumpster library with a general name: but this library is about 15 years old. (i think) all other libraries i've written since then are targetted at a specific problem (e.g. networking) and have a specific name (e.g. iemnet). as for dupes in coffee: + [c.loadmess] - iemlib's [init] - (iirc, there used to be a kind-of implementation in vanilla as well) + [c.pak] - pdmtl's [list.pak] + [c.patcherargs] - iemgut's [canvasargs] - jonathan's query system - flext + [c.patcherinfos] - iemgut's [canvasname], [canvasinfo] - jonathan's query system + [c.prepend] - vanilla's [list prepend]+[list strip] - iemlib's [prepend] - cyclone's [Prepend] gfdar IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
Great. Thanks! Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 6 January 2014 12:46, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com wrote: You can do the same with bezier curve, you don't click on a line segment but you move a control point. Cheers 2014/1/6 peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com Hi Pierre, Sounds great. Although I would love to see ej.function's (Max external) functionality here. Please see the attached screen recording. I'm alt+clicking on a line segment and dragging it to create a specific curve for each segment. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk http://www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed http://peimankhosravi.co.uk/miscposts.rss || Concert News http://spectralkimia.wordpress.com/* On 6 January 2014 10:48, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com wrote: @peiman : I thought about something that creates ramp lines with a specific interpolations but I think you're right, the best way is to fill an array (much more efficient). So, now I offer a cosine interpolation and cubic interpolation, this is easy to use and if you add some points you can create interesting envelopes. @João : I think, it's better to have a specific object for bezier curves because there several ways to write bezier curves : all the points define a high order bezier curve (the curve never crosses the points) or each point has one or more control points (like in photoshop). 2014/1/3 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com yeah, I was finding the coffee library to be kind of reductant, these functionalities have already been achieved by other libraries in Pd Extended, but the GUI stuff is gold, I think it's time we could have something like that as an option in Pd Extended! 2014/1/3 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at On 2014-01-03 09:44, Pierre Guillot wrote: I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt anybody with this library. I never thought that the name was so important and I'll change it as soon as possible if it's your principal wish. i don't think you've hurt anybody; and so far the only one who has been complaining was me :-) i don't think there's a real problem with your jokes about flavours (coffee, cocoa, whatever), though there might be better - and more specific - names. as jonathan has pointed out, i myself am the author of a dumpster library with a general name: but this library is about 15 years old. (i think) all other libraries i've written since then are targetted at a specific problem (e.g. networking) and have a specific name (e.g. iemnet). as for dupes in coffee: + [c.loadmess] - iemlib's [init] - (iirc, there used to be a kind-of implementation in vanilla as well) + [c.pak] - pdmtl's [list.pak] + [c.patcherargs] - iemgut's [canvasargs] - jonathan's query system - flext + [c.patcherinfos] - iemgut's [canvasname], [canvasinfo] - jonathan's query system + [c.prepend] - vanilla's [list prepend]+[list strip] - iemlib's [prepend] - cyclone's [Prepend] gfdar IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pmpd3d and iPlane
Hello, I don't understand the interactor behavior of iPlane with a mass. When i create : [iPlane mob 0 -1 0 0 4 0 1 1 0 1] i expect to create a plane at (0, 4, 0) with a normal vector (0, -1, 0) which interact with masses mob. Is it true ? If it is true, when i send a force (0, 0.1, 0) to a [mass mob 1 10 0 0 0( i expect an interaction with the plane when the position Y of the mass mob is (around) 4.0. Is it still true ? If not, what are the good arguments for [iPlane] to get an interaction with the mass at (0, 4, 0) ? Patch is attached. Thanx. ++ Jack pmpd3d_iPlane.pd Description: application/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pmpd3d and iPlane
using interactor messages with pmpd* objects is like using interactors objects with mass. i.e : it did not create a fixed interaction like the link message do. it create a one time only interaction. so you just have to bang it at every iteration with the gemhead. cheers c Le 06/01/2014 20:11, Jack a écrit : Hello, I don't understand the interactor behavior of iPlane with a mass. When i create : [iPlane mob 0 -1 0 0 4 0 1 1 0 1] i expect to create a plane at (0, 4, 0) with a normal vector (0, -1, 0) which interact with masses mob. Is it true ? If it is true, when i send a force (0, 0.1, 0) to a [mass mob 1 10 0 0 0( i expect an interaction with the plane when the position Y of the mass mob is (around) 4.0. Is it still true ? If not, what are the good arguments for [iPlane] to get an interaction with the mass at (0, 4, 0) ? Patch is attached. Thanx. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pmpd3d and iPlane
OK, thanx for the clarification. Now, it is working fine ! ++ Jack Le 06/01/2014 20:45, Cyrille Henry a écrit : using interactor messages with pmpd* objects is like using interactors objects with mass. i.e : it did not create a fixed interaction like the link message do. it create a one time only interaction. so you just have to bang it at every iteration with the gemhead. cheers c Le 06/01/2014 20:11, Jack a écrit : Hello, I don't understand the interactor behavior of iPlane with a mass. When i create : [iPlane mob 0 -1 0 0 4 0 1 1 0 1] i expect to create a plane at (0, 4, 0) with a normal vector (0, -1, 0) which interact with masses mob. Is it true ? If it is true, when i send a force (0, 0.1, 0) to a [mass mob 1 10 0 0 0( i expect an interaction with the plane when the position Y of the mass mob is (around) 4.0. Is it still true ? If not, what are the good arguments for [iPlane] to get an interaction with the mass at (0, 4, 0) ? Patch is attached. Thanx. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: compil .py .pyo to pyext
Hi Philippe, what means it is not good exactly? That it doesn't work? My main question would be what you expect from the compilation to .pyo. It's not a compilation to machine code as e.g. with C languages but rather a mere translation to bytecode. It doesn't bring any speedups for execution, just a tiny bit (negligible i would say) when loading the script. all the best, Thomas 2014/1/6 Philippe Boisnard philem...@mac.com Hi, and HNY I search to compile a python script (.py = .pyo) but the result is not good In fact I use : python -O -m compileall basedonne.py result : basedonne.pyo, but it's not good for pyext I have tested with simple.py for example, but it's the same result, my simple.pyo is not good I don't know where is my problem ? it's not pyext, because I have a good python script I think that it's my compilation best regards p ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
if you want only one segment, you can use the abstraction [jmmmp/bezier].Great.
Thanks!Peiman
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On 6 January 2014 12:46, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com wrote:
You can do the same with bezier curve, you don't click on a line segment but you move a control point.Cheers
2014/1/6 peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com
Hi Pierre,
Sounds great. Although I would love to see ej.function's (Max external) functionality here. Please see the attached screen recording. I'm alt+clicking on a line segment and dragging it to create a specific curve for each segment.
Thanks
Peiman
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On 6 January 2014 10:48, Pierre Guillot guillotpier...@gmail.com wrote:
@peiman : I thought about something that creates ramp lines with a specific interpolations but I think you're right, the best way is to fill an array (much more efficient). So, now I offer a cosine interpolation and cubic interpolation, this is easy to use and if you add some points you can create interesting envelopes.
@João: I think, it's better to have a specific object for bezier curves because there several ways to write bezier curves : all the points define a high order bezier curve (the curve never crosses the points) or each point has one or more control points (like in photoshop).
2014/1/3 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com
yeah, I was finding the coffee library to be kind of reductant, these functionalities have already been achieved by other libraries in Pd Extended, but the GUI stuff is gold, I think it's time we could have something like that as an option in Pd Extended!
2014/1/3 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
On 2014-01-03 09:44, Pierre Guillot wrote:
I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt anybody with this library. I never thought
that the name was so important and I'll change it as soon as possible if
it's your principal wish.
i don't think you've "hurt" anybody; and so far the only one who has
been complaining was me :-)
i don't think there's a real problem with your jokes about flavours
("coffee", "cocoa", whatever), though there might be better - and more
specific - names.
as jonathan has pointed out, i myself am the author of a dumpster
library with a general name: but this library is about 15 years old. (i
think) all other libraries i've written since then are targetted at a
specific problem (e.g. "networking") and have a specific name (e.g.
"iemnet").
as for dupes in coffee:
+ [c.loadmess]
- iemlib's [init]
- (iirc, there used to be a kind-of implementation in vanilla as well)
+ [c.pak]
- pdmtl's [list.pak]
+ [c.patcherargs]
- iemgut's [canvasargs]
- jonathan's query system
- flext
+ [c.patcherinfos]
- iemgut's [canvasname], [canvasinfo]
- jonathan's query system
+ [c.prepend]
- vanilla's [list prepend]+[list strip]
- iemlib's [prepend]
- cyclone's [Prepend]
gfdar
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] compil .py .pyo to pyext
Hi I have understood, that for pyext, compilation is made by pyext itself but I have a problem my script doesn't seem good try: import pyext except: print ERROR: This script must be loaded by the PD/Max pyext external class basededonne(pyext._class): # number of inlets and outlets _inlets=1 _outlets=1 # methods for all inlets index=0 fichier=empty def symbol_1(self,fich): chaines=str(fich) self.fichier = open(/Applications/puredata/67-vazulkaNew/Vazulka_Janvier_4/basedonnee.txt,'r') for ligne in self.fichier: for chaine in self.chaines: if chaine in ligne: self._outlet(ligne) my version of pyext and python py/pyext 0.2.2 - python script objects (C)2002-2011 Thomas Grill - http://g.org/ext using Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Jul 31 2011, 19:30:53) [GCC 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.15.00)] Python array support enabled best regards philippe Le 6 janv. 2014 à 22:18, Thomas Grill a écrit : Hi Philippe, what means it is not good exactly? That it doesn't work? My main question would be what you expect from the compilation to .pyo. It's not a compilation to machine code as e.g. with C languages but rather a mere translation to bytecode. It doesn't bring any speedups for execution, just a tiny bit (negligible i would say) when loading the script. all the best, Thomas 2014/1/6 Philippe Boisnard philem...@mac.com Hi, and HNY I search to compile a python script (.py = .pyo) but the result is not good In fact I use : python -O -m compileall basedonne.py result : basedonne.pyo, but it's not good for pyext I have tested with simple.py for example, but it's the same result, my simple.pyo is not good I don't know where is my problem ? it's not pyext, because I have a good python script I think that it's my compilation best regards p ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
