Re: [PD] (no subject)
announcing the new [loseweight] object? Thanks mark sergeant! On Oct 6, 2012, at 1:15 PM, mark sargeant sarg...@hotmail.com wrote: http://oldmillknitting.businessmedia.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/google.html?al=gsy.sxfsrt=te.hkmlshc=cbie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] getting Pd to run on Raspberry Pi
great! thanks for all that info miller! let us know when you get USB input sounding good and how you did it. cheers m On Sep 8, 2012, at 1:54 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: To Pd list, I got my Pi in the mail today (only 2 or 3 weeks after ordering it I think - they're starting to catch up with the enormous demand!) and can report what I found works and what not. I loaded the Raspian distro (the one everyone suggests) and following the blog on : http://log.liminastudio.com/programming/running-puredata-on-the-raspberry-pi just typed pi@raspberrypi ~ $ sudo bash root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# apt-get update root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# apt-get install puredata and then pd ... sort of... runs right away. I had to fool with some glitches though: 1. Pd is version 0.43-2 which doesn't yet know to try to promote itself to real-time if it's not root. (This is only fixed in 0.44 which might not make it to Raspian for quite some time.) A rather bad workaround exists: still as root (i.e., after the sudo step) type root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# chmod 4775 /usr/bin/puredata This might be a security risk (if anyone breaks into your Pi they might be able to design an exploit to get Pd to promote them to root) but I can't say I'm worried about that. (Speaking of security though, since mine is networked and ssh-enabled, I did change the password :) I'm having no trouble running Pd via ssh from another computer. The pi user is already in group audio in the Raspian distro. X windows forwarding is also turned on by default - so the only detail you have to check is whether your ssh is rinngin with -X set on the originating machine. I did notice that one can't run pd inside sudo and still get X forwarding; you have to stay as the pi user. Then about audio. I can indeed verify that the built-in analogue audio is wretched -- in two ways. First, it's not even functional (and LOUDLY non- functional :) until you se the latency to at least 40 msec (it's 25 by default in Pd on linux.) Second, it's bad anyway. To my ears the alsa play program and Pd's test-tone sound equally bad. There's a modulation that is sort of as if a sample out of every 1024 is getting dropped or doubled. You can hear the modulation change as the pitch of the test tone goes up and down. So I pulled out my cheapo USB headset from Gigaware and, with input turned off, was able to play the test tone with latency down to 10 msec, and got a clean-sounding tone out. Then, getting overconfident, I turned on audio input and although the sound came through it has hiccups and my interface froze (had to unplug the headphones to get Pd to bail :) So things are sort of working but there's still some tuning to do... I'll probably have more to report over the weekend. cheers Miller ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Web Netiquette Re: Making Musical Apps: a book about libpd
long as you don't smoke too many One is to many and a thousand is never enough. On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:55 AM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote: smoking isn't really THAT bad. as long as you don't smoke too many, it just raises your odds on diseases that have pretty low odds anyway, ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] openstomp ... PD pedal?
I suggest a PDP-11/34, the state-of-the-art in miniaturisation. Only if it runs the new Windows. Because that's what I need the guy at Best Buy told me so. On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Le 2012-03-02 à 13:51:00, m.e.grimm a écrit : i guess i will have to buy a computer too then. walmart is on my way home. I suggest a PDP-11/34, the state-of-the-art in miniaturisation. http://www.flickr.com/photos/39042368@N04/5807719935/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Doesn't even fill the rack ! __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.93.3 released
Thanks! Works on 10.7.2 When will that be in extended autobuilds ya think? Cheers M Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: That fixed it for me on 10.6.8/Intel, well done on that mystery crasher bug! .hc On Nov 11, 2011, at 7:40 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: i'd like to announce the release of Gem-0.93.3 this is the 3rd bugfix release in the 0.93 series. it fixes a major problem withthe 0.92.2 pre-release i announced yesterday. the use of 0.92.2 is discouraged in favour of the shiny new 0.93.3! grab it while it's hot from http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.93.3/ or alternatively from http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/files/gem/0.93.3/ like always we have fixed numerous bugs and features, and most likely introduced an equal number of wishlists and showstoppers. difference between 0.93.3 and 0.93.2: - a major trivial bug that caused Pd to shutdown has been fixed. the problem was apparent only on OSX when using Pd-0.43, but could have triggered weird effects on all known systems. noteable differences between 0.93.2 and 0.93.1: availability: - this is the first 0.93 release, that provides binaries for OSX. the downloadable archive contains fat binaries for both ppc and i386 which should run on any OSX since 10.4 functionality: - fixed a crash on 64bit architectures related to SIMD-detection code - fixed other crashes on 64bit architecture when using some pix-effects (ports of Pete's Plugins) - pix_texture now handles repeat/quality of external textures - failing plugins no longer keep other (working) plugins from functioning - improved filmGMERLIN framecount behaviour - made recordQT work again documentation: - a number of typos and inconsistencies in the help patches get happy! fgmadr IOhannes ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce “We must become the change we want to see. - Mahatma Gandhi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds
cool... thanks for this! also made me think: what would this be like compiled as an external? what is the smallest sized external that does something interesting? i have bee interested in learning/writing C last few weeks o rather then small pieces of code implemented as patches just wondering what this might be like as a series of compiled objects cheers mark On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: http://countercomplex.blogspot.com/2011/10/algorithmic-symphonies-from-one-line-of.html Surely we can do stuff like this in Pd? Smallest Pd patch that makes an interesting tune? Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1
hello i am getting something similar with Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110831.app (my first attempt with Pd-0.43.1-extended). for me though, when clicking on the App icon the PD window briefly appears and the PD dispersal. I then removed the Gem folder from extra in the Package and PD-Extended-0.43.1 appears fine, obviously with the message Gem: can't load library in the console... I then ran extended from command line, eg: /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110831.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr -d 3 -verbose and all works just fine (Gem included) question is: why when clicking on App i get an immediate crash (is it a crash?). Is there a way to log the crash by clicking on the App since running from terminal seems fine? idk just thought i would let you guys know if the issue. BTW I am on 10.7.1 ... could that be the issue? Although I do remember now a month or so ago trying an older build of extended 0.43.0 and getting a pretty similar result. PD window immediately goes away. cheers mar On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Hey when I run the latest build I get /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110831.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/.. /extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110831.app/Contents/Resources/Scr ipts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110831.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/.. /extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin Expected in: dynamic lookup Gem: can't load library toxy: can't load library /Applications/pd/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ggee/vbap.pd_darw in: dlopen(/Applications/pd/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ggee/vbap. pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Applications/pd/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ggee/vbap.pd_dar win: mach-o, but wrong architecture /Applications/pd/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib/iem_anythi ng.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/pd/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib/iem _anything.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Applications/pd/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib/iem_anyth ing.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture iem_anything: can't load library flib: can't load library flatspace: can't load library PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.7-svn pidip: can't load library freeverb~ v1.2 Please advise on how to proceed pp On 8/31/11 12:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: its seems to be a DNS problem. You can get it here: http://128.238.56.50 On Aug 31, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: I cannot seem to get it to run. I get some funky errors and then either pd will quit or it will not load Gem. I assume some things need to be ironed out. I also posted to the frei0r-devel list hoping that we may get usable frei0r plugins for OSX. Currently it seems like the autobuilds are offline for pd-extened too pp On 8/28/11 10:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: The 0.43 Pd-extended nightly builds include it, AFAIK. .hc On Aug 28, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Is there a how-to for compiling GEM on OSX? I really want to get started with frei0r and freeframe pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- -- ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! -- -- There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] multichannel instalation
just curious... channels; in the meantime, we regularily use Pd with 64 channels output; this is of course with some super soundcard, whats the hardware for this? thanks! m On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:34 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-08-25 06:56, Jaime Oliver wrote: I haven't been able to get the Sapphire to output more than two channels through Pd (though it is supposed to be capable of 8). don't know this card but have you set the number of output channels to 4? i second that. Pd is definitely made for multi- and manychannel setups. (the first publicly shown project i did in Pd was 1999, when we used 16 channels; in the meantime, we regularily use Pd with 64 channels output; this is of course with some super soundcard, but it's just to tell you, that Pd can and will do it's part of the multichannel setup; for information on whether your OS and soundcard are up to it, please refer to the manuals :-) I have tried making a multichannel patch, for eg [dac~ 1 2 3 4]. All that happens is I get a reduced signal from my 1 and 2 channels coming through my 3 and 4 channels. this sound mainly like an internal mixer setting of your soundcard. you'll need as many independent channels as independent speakers in your array ...playing at the same time. e.g. you could do a 70 speaker installation with just a stereo output and a lot of routing logic, e.g. use relays to properly dispatch the audio signals to 2-of-70 speakers; obviously you won't be able to do WFS with a system like that, but you can make a sound wander around between speakers. bear in mind, that relays also have a nice aesthetics on their own...the computer we used for driving such an installation was named Klapotetz [1] ghmsdft IOhannes [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klopotec -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5V+vEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQazgCdG4Y1bFjEqaQeGvtasQD6Fcfo 8SAAn0Gj5KIfawM5WgRiZLIfj4FBoGgQ =saf5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Space~ binary OSX Intel
anyone have a space~ binary OSX Intel 10.6 pd-extended 0.42.5 they could send me? this one: http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~yadegari/space.html is outdated and i couldn't compile successfully in under 15 min so i thought i would ask... cheers! mark -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Speech Recognition OSX
hey Patrick just trying Kiku out. Works for a minute then stops responding. specifically when i open pd-extended. maybe its my setup? osx 10.6 - vmware fusion - ubuntu 11.04 - kiku 0.1 + pd-extended 0.42.5 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 7:52 AM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: Hi José, But.. how do you recognize so many languages? (I'm confused, as you say you are using an english model and the online dictation page recognizes other languages as well...) kiku is only able to recognize English (15k words) and Japanese (60k words). The web page use HTML5 x-webkit-speech on Google Chrome and it's a complement to kiku since the accuracy of the English acoustic model is not yet ready for dictation. so kiku = single word recognition and the web page a complement for dictation. http://www.workinprogress.ca/KIKU/dictation.php à+ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Speech Recognition OSX
yeah i figured it out. pd just needs to be started from the terminal. then all works well! also you need to know that kiku is single word recognition. meaning if you speak a sentence it will output a single word (with a very bad score). yeah figured that which I can make works for what im doing (i think) although full dictation or semi-dictation would be more ideal i am surprise that it's working on ubuntu 11.04 seems to work!!! idk cheers mark On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:13 PM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: hi mark, i am surprise that it's working on ubuntu 11.04 - kiku is not showing in the taskbar (a bug in compiz), but it's not affecting the recognition afaik. as for your problem, kiku have an option to recognize only the words if, in your example, pd-extended is opened causing kiku to restart his engine (thus portaudio). that might be your problem (i cannot reproduce this problem here, ubuntu 10.10). you change this behavior in Configuration: Dictionary: Match V2C (uncheck) also you need to know that kiku is single word recognition. meaning if you speak a sentence it will output a single word (with a very bad score). remove ~/.kiku folder to reset the installation. pat -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Speech Recognition OSX
hello, thanks for response! the apple built in speech recognition is for Speakable Items, built into Mac OS X and located in the Speech pane of System Preferences, ... basic words to control computer... I think im looking for more of speech dictation for recognizing longer phrases.\ I have a project coming up and I am just weighing my options. Basically I am monitoring radio signals via a police scanner and want to pick out key words. It doesn't even have to be that accurate really. just so certain words can trigger instance in PD cheers mark On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:31 AM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: On 11-06-24 02:48 AM, mark edward grimm wrote: Anyone have speech / voice recognition working on OSX 10.6? Maybe you can use the built-in speech recognition (i know nothing about OSX)? Been trying sphinx2pd python script without much luck. I did this quick hack awhile ago and only tested on Linux. Most solutions I find are Linux based... I am so happy to read that :) Using extended 0.42.5 I think it's better to use a voice recognition software (not a pd external) and then make the bridge between the software and pd (with shell, python, lua, OSC, emulation of keyboard / mouse, etc). For kiku, i'm using Julius voice recognition (can be compile on OS X) and the Voxforge english acoustic model. The next version have Open Sound Control (client only) built-in. So maybe you can use VirtualBox inside OS X install Ubuntu and use kiku OSC (but what an ugly solution). http://www.workinprogress.ca/kiku/about à+ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Speech Recognition OSX
Anyone have speech / voice recognition working on OSX 10.6? Been trying sphinx2pd python script without much luck. Most solutions I find are Linux based... Using extended 0.42.5 Thanks! mark -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GLSL Abstractions Library for Pd/GEM
lost the repository when my server crashed (about two years ago). ha!! yeah sounds familiar :) thats happened to me on a few occasions... hopefully I have the time to fix all that some time. awesome... thanks. if you find them let me know... cheers mark did not put anything online since then. but still planning to do so... otoh, I did not use Pd so much recently and read about some changes in the new GEM version that probably will cause some problems with the way the library objects worked (??). hopefully I have the time to fix all that some time. at the moment this is lying in a big mess on some old harddrive... sorry! marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GLSL Abstractions Library for Pd/GEM
I was just re-reading Marius Schebella's paper on glsl stuffs: http://gem.iem.at/convention09/schebella.pdf/view is there a repo for these abs? I cant seem to locate any of them as pd patches. seems like only this paper exists cheers mark -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gemwin to multipage PDF?
ah yes I guess it would be vector. forgot to mention that. pdf would need to go to high quality printer eventually. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, tim vets wrote: hmm right... though it depends how you interpret or in the phrase pdf or vector files ;) Tim uhhh yeah. Well, let's wait for the response. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a IT macintosh engineer | adjunct syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gemwin to multipage PDF?
Just looking at some older discussion. im kind of in the same boat as: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-11/043891.html just wondering if anyone had come up with a solution for generating a PDF from Gem might be nice cheers m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd+pachube+python
wow... looks like a lot of platforms are supported. http://community.pachube.com/software_hardware maybe a native pd external or pyext external would be nice anyway... i would like to know if you get this working.., thanks! mark On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Michal Seta m...@artengine.ca wrote: On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:26 PM, FernandoG dataf...@gmail.com wrote: Data can not get in a number box object, this error mesagge is diplayed in console: error: gatom: no method for '1' I don't know simpleOSC but this code/description looks like your '1', by the time it is received by Pd is untyped(?), and there fore numberbox does not know how to deal with it. Did you try [print]? You may want to pass that output through [sprintf %i] or something similar (perhaps just [trigger float] will do?) to 'cast' it into proper datatype. I don't have pd handy to test but this should set you on the right track. ./MiS ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a IT macintosh engineer | adjunct syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] OT: Emotiv EPOC
Hello, Just wondering if anyone has seen this? Or used it with PD? Just read about it on the max/msp forums OR other ways to get brain waves into PD? Just curious what projects there might have been. I am trying to conceptualize my own. cheers mark -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] tempo from qlist
sorry i asked this before but didn't get a reply.. how can i get the tempo from a qlist? i generate a text file from a midi file. i load in qlist. I want to be able to synchronize to a metro. ideas? Thanks! mark -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a IT macintosh engineer | adjunct syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tempo from qlist
awesome!! yeah i think your project will be very helpful! Thanks! mark On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:01 AM, patko colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: You might be interested by this project: http://megalego.free.fr/pd/patko/list-sequence/list-sequence.zip - patko colet.patr...@free.fr a écrit : hello, you can set delay between messages, and set a ratio in qlist inlet, for example you write 1/4 notes at 500ms your piece would be about 120bpm, then if you send 0.5 to qlist inlet it will play at 60bpm patko - mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu a écrit : sorry i asked this before but didn't get a reply.. how can i get the tempo from a qlist? i generate a text file from a midi file. i load in qlist. I want to be able to synchronize to a metro. ideas? Thanks! mark -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a IT macintosh engineer | adjunct syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrice Colet -- Patrice Colet -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a IT macintosh engineer | adjunct syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] synchronizing a seq-textfile using c_seqplay to a metro
hello
I am using the seq_conversion in c_seqplay from rjdj lib to convert a
midi file to a seq-textfile. I am aware that the tempo $1 is
relative to the tempo in the textfile. How do I get that tempo from
qlist in c_seqplay? Ultimately I want to get the tempo from qlist and
convert so it is relative, using [tempo $1{, to synchronize to a
master metro. Any idea how this is done? Synchronizing a seq-textfile
using c_seqplay generated from a midi file to a metro? I have read
docs but can't figure it out
thanks!
mark
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[PD] PD users in Ithaca, NY?
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Re: [PD] youtube2pd
yeah something like this works fine running the the terminal:
import os
os.system('ffmpeg -i
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/MuU00Q3RhDg.flv -an -pix_fmt
yuv420p -vcodec mjpeg -s 640x480 -sameq -f mov -y
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/test.mov')
os.system('ffmpeg -i
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/MuU00Q3RhDg.flv
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/temp.wav')
os.system('sox /Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/temp.wav -r
44100 /Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/test.wav')
os.system('normalize-audio /Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/test.wav')
so I am assuming its a path problem with your script? since it
downloads and cleans. although why would it be able to clean the
downloaded file from '+savepath+'/footage/' but not able to find to
transcode?
m
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:00 AM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote:
hi mark,
you can try with a simple python script something like:
import os
os.system('ffmpeg -i /Users/bla/video.flv -vcodec mjpeg
/Users/bla/video.avi')
if it's working, then maybe it's a problem with the savepath. also starting
pd in a terminal might give you more info.
pat
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Re: [PD] youtube2pd
...
90xhaI8TNgA.wav 100% done, ETA 00:00:00 (batch 100% done, ETA 00:00:00)
Applying adjustment of 9.64dB to /youtube2pd/footage/90xhaI8TNgA.wav...
90xhaI8TNgA.wav 100% done, ETA 00:00:00 (batch 100% done, ETA 00:00:00)
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote:
yeah something like this works fine running the the terminal:
import os
os.system('ffmpeg -i
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/MuU00Q3RhDg.flv -an -pix_fmt
yuv420p -vcodec mjpeg -s 640x480 -sameq -f mov -y
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/test.mov')
os.system('ffmpeg -i
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/MuU00Q3RhDg.flv
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/temp.wav')
os.system('sox /Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/temp.wav -r
44100 /Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/test.wav')
os.system('normalize-audio
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/youtube2pd/footage/test.wav')
so I am assuming its a path problem with your script? since it
downloads and cleans. although why would it be able to clean the
downloaded file from '+savepath+'/footage/' but not able to find to
transcode?
m
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:00 AM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote:
hi mark,
you can try with a simple python script something like:
import os
os.system('ffmpeg -i /Users/bla/video.flv -vcodec mjpeg
/Users/bla/video.avi')
if it's working, then maybe it's a problem with the savepath. also starting
pd in a terminal might give you more info.
pat
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Re: [PD] youtube2pd
wow... nice!!! how then on OSX 10.6? Suggestions? m On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:42 AM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: hi everyone, i am sharing a solution for pd to remix youtube video (download, transcode, sequence, fx). it's only for linux and it's using py.pd_linux (included for python 2.6) + python-gdata, mtl and other applications (readme.txt). you can see a video of the patch in action (i didn't take the time to choose the video for a nice demo...): http://vimeo.com/14059272 you can download the patch here: http://puredata.info/Members/patrick if anyone use or make modification, let me know! pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a IT macintosh engineer | adjunct syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] youtube2pd
hello, yeah everything is working but the transcoding. ffmpeg transcodes from the terminal fine. ffmpeg, normalize and sox all installed from macports. python-gdata installed, etc. downloads and cleans *.flv fine too... just no transcoding. and no errors in pd console. m On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:33 PM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: hi, for OSX maybe using the compiled py external from: http://g.org/ext/beta/macos/pd/ but that's only to search / download video from youtube... you will have to change how pd is started (portaudio in mac?) youscrap.py (ffmpeg, path). i am sure it's doable. pat -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a IT macintosh engineer | adjunct syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Loop object
Hi Jerome, Maybe try [susloop~] ? thats what I use cheers m On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Jerome Covington i...@thespacebetweenthewords.org wrote: Looking at the [loop~] help example but am unable to create any noise. When I click on array 2 in play mode the following is logged in the console. error: conflicting block~ objects in same page play~'s error: no such array '0-table' play~'s error: no such array '1-table' play~'s error: no such array '2-table' play~'s error: no such array '3-table' Is there an issue with this example? (Entirely possible that it is perfect, and that I am to blame.) Are there other useful examples of the [loop~] object? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fullscreen Patch / No Menu Bar / NOT Gem
ah... kiosk!! thats the word yeah the gem window thing should work if thats the only solution i take it the kiosk mode is this: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062823.html i have not tried it yet though as of right now does it work out of the box on extended? thanks! mark On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:12 AM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: hello, i think there was a kiosk mode somwhere, but can't find the flag. so, what i would do is create a Gem windows fullscreen, and use gemmouse in order to get the pointer position... cheers C mark edward grimm a écrit : sorry i cant go through a billion gem fullscreen messages on the list But how do I make just a patch fullscreen? I'm doing a gallery work for someone due tomorrow (oops) that needs to be curatorial friendly. Its an audio piece that has no monitor just a pair of speakers and a button-mouse. i just have to make sure the mouse doesn't accidentally close the patch. is a fullscreen patch the way to go? or is there a way to lock the menu or patch from closing? im using hid/mouse and im on osx 10.5 / mac mini i think. thanks! mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fullscreen Patch / No Menu Bar / NOT Gem
sorry i cant go through a billion gem fullscreen messages on the list But how do I make just a patch fullscreen? I'm doing a gallery work for someone due tomorrow (oops) that needs to be curatorial friendly. Its an audio piece that has no monitor just a pair of speakers and a button-mouse. i just have to make sure the mouse doesn't accidentally close the patch. is a fullscreen patch the way to go? or is there a way to lock the menu or patch from closing? im using hid/mouse and im on osx 10.5 / mac mini i think. thanks! mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Live Phase Vocoder version 2010 Re: (Live Phase Vocoder)
hey alex... thats nice!!! thanks!! m 2010/1/1 Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com: Now the patch has more controls and a manual! This is the 2010 version of it. Agora o patch tem mais controles e um manual! Essa é a versão 2010 dele! http://sites.google.com/site/porres/LPVoc.pd Feliz/Happy 2010 porres ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch
ah yeah thanks hans... i didn't know that example patch was included. thanks for the help! my patch attached. m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: Please post your final patch! ~Kyle On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Check out hcs/get-audio-dialog and hcs/get-midi-dialog, they are included in Pd-extended. .hc On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: ... continuing this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this? Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this Cheers! mark audiomidi_properties.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch
ooops.. now attached. m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 2:29 PM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: ah yeah thanks hans... i didn't know that example patch was included. thanks for the help! my patch attached. m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: Please post your final patch! ~Kyle On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Check out hcs/get-audio-dialog and hcs/get-midi-dialog, they are included in Pd-extended. .hc On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: ... continuing this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this? Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this Cheers! mark audiomidi_properties.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ midisport2x2.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch
... continuing this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this? Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this Cheers! mark audiomidi_properties.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mmonoplayer emulator externals
By any chance does anyone have any mmonoplayer emulator externals from: http://mmonoplayer.com/mspexternals.php ... already compile as a binary they can send? My quick attempt from source on the atari2600 external failed and the binaries from the website give me 'wrong architecture' error. osx 10.6.1.2 intel pd-extended 0.41.4 and 0.42.5 thanks! mark -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mmonoplayer emulator externals
yeah i can do that. i was inspired by the nyc blip fest that i unfortunately missed. interested in getting my students interested... i have students that just need a push forward which these externals may help... cheers mark On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I emailed the author to get all of the sources from him to see about turning it into a Pd libdir. You could email him as well to express interest in the idea. .hc On Dec 24, 2009, at 9:03 AM, mark edward grimm wrote: By any chance does anyone have any mmonoplayer emulator externals from: http://mmonoplayer.com/mspexternals.php ... already compile as a binary they can send? My quick attempt from source on the atari2600 external failed and the binaries from the website give me 'wrong architecture' error. osx 10.6.1.2 intel pd-extended 0.41.4 and 0.42.5 thanks! mark -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David Zicarelli -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
hey this is awesome thanks i will try this out when I get the chance to do so ... probably tomorrow morn.. Cheers! mark --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net wrote: From: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 8:39 PM mark edward grimm wrote: attached is what i found in my archive from last year. sorry there is some pdmtl code in there it looks like. otherwise the camera_para.dat and patt.hiro have to sit at / looks like there was some cube code in there too... i never got a chance to get it going though. hmm. no luck today. tried an eyetoy camera @ 640x480 using your patch, the freshly compiled pix_artoolkit external and a hiro pattern. unfortunately i didn't use the most recent Gem from svn (I'll do so when I'm awake again). I attached a patch showing the use of a transformation matrix which you'll get from most tracking systems. I'm not quite sure which format it'll be from artoolkit, but I'm sure its not compatible with mine out of the box. also units migt be some factors too big (marker size is given in millimeters, so i assume the translation will also be set in mm. I saw there's an option to use quaternion output for rotations (I'm not very familiar with that) or normal output which is is probably a 3d vector for translation and a rotation matrix. cheers martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
you can try pd_opencv also : http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib ah yes. might this be in pd-extended' soon? or is it already maybe? intended? freshmen art students would need this for a quick out-of-the-box solution... at least in my class... :) mark --- On Tue, 11/24/09, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote: From: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example To: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Cc: mgr...@syr.edu, pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:45 AM Martin Schied wrote: mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Been a while since I messed around with pix_artoolkit. A student of mine is really interested and I wanted to give her an example but I don't have time to write a patch Does anyone have an example that replaces the marker with a 3d model and tracking it across the gem win? Wow, that's good news - i never figured out how to get it recognize a marker. What camera did you use and on which OS? Would you mind posting your working patch to the list? I made a patch for a presentation of a wiimote tracking system for my master thesis. It shows a model wich reacts to movements of a 4-LED marker, pretty much what you were asking for and could be adapted easily. cheers Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list you can try pd_opencv also : http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start%3Apuredata_opencvcache=cachemedia=start:pdp_opencv_pgh_compare.png sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
got it thanks! I will take a look this afternoon and get back to you... Cheers mark --- On Mon, 11/23/09, Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net wrote: From: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example To: mgr...@syr.edu Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 2:52 PM hi, mark I did some quick changes which should let you display something. the gemwin is now 10 times bigger than usual, and the far clipping plane beyond which everything disappears is set to 3000, you might want to adjust that. to me it seems like it outputs millimeters as unit - but maybe it's no sensible unit at all. the size of the cube 40 is actually a 80x 80x80 cube which matches the default marker size. if you plan to use artoolkit as an augmented reality device you'll have to measure your isight camera somehow and adjust your virtual camera in the gemwin to match your real camera's parameters. it's also possible to do it without measurements, but it can be an endless gefrickel (I realized that at a point and then did the measurements which made everything more comfortable for my tracking system). it's not that difficult, but my experience was that I had to carefully note everything and make some drawings, showing the relations between the real camera's angles and and the virtual camera. maybe check some computer graphics books for details on that. if they are to mathematical - throw it away and get another one, this stuff can also be explained in an easy to understand manner... cheers martin hey martin... off list heres some of the data im getting when the marker gets recognized... thanks! mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example
hi martin, sorry i was wrong in stating that i was using: pd-extended 41.4 release on osx 10.6.2 I am actually using the latest autobuild off hans site so: Pd version 0.42.5-extended GEM: ver: 0.92.1 with this version of extended i get: [pix_artoolkit]: ARToolKit support by Shigeyuki Hirai when loading pix_artoolkit rather than: error: [pix_artoolkit]: compiled without ARToolKit support! on extended 0.41.4 so im assuming something was fixed (obviously :) maybe from out of the last discussion from last year? i cant find thread because it seems like the list is down again... your on linux no? its right outlet), I'd be interested in what camera, ah... built in isight.. i left the printed hiro test pattern at the uni so ill give you some data printouts tomorrow morn when i get in... I will take a look at your new patch you sent too! Thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net wrote: From: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [PD] pix_artoolkit example To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 4:42 PM hi again. now I compiled the current gem release 0.92.1 from sourceforge (I could not find pix_artoolkit in svn) it contains some changes compared to my older version of pix_artoolkit source code, but unfortunately again no markers are recognized with my setup (pix_artoolkit does't output anything on its right outlet.) I also had a look at the cube part of the help patch you sent me and also the sources of pix_artoolkit. It seems it outputs 7 values which are: the translation (position) as a vector x y z, an other vector 'x y z' which is the direction of the detected rotation axis (the rotation normal) and a rotation angle around this axis. so the draw cube part of your help patch should work just fine if everything else (marker detection, marker recognition) works. maybe the size of the cube (40) is too big to see anything or the cube is only drawn behind the video. i changed that, see attachment. when i was working with tracking data in general I scaled everything to usual gem units, so that for example a desired range of 0 to 40 cm went from 0 to 4. so it fits in the usual gemwin for quick tests. I have no idea which units the external will output - choose a smaller size for the marker than 80, until you can see something useful. my assumptions about the output of pix_artoolkit from yesterday are completely wrong (there's no matrix output) - so the patch I sent you before is pretty useless - sorry for that. if pix_artoolkit is working for you (outputting anything on its right outlet), I'd be interested in what camera, resolution, version of Gem you are using. Some output of the external would also help me improving the help patch - if necessary. cheers martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GridFlow 0.9.6 for Mac OS X
running for me too! although... when i mouse over the gridflow [#out window] i get the spinning beach ball - this is in all example patches, so obviously the I am running 10.6. Well aware this is compiled for 10.4, could this be the problem? m --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] GridFlow 0.9.6 for Mac OS X To: Patrick Boivin pboi...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:32 PM Confirmed. I downloaded the latest Pd-extended release and GridFlow runs an example patch! Nice work, I've been waiting for this for years. ~Kyle On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Patrick Boivin pboi...@gmail.com wrote: Reason: Incompatible library version: gridflow.pd_darwin requires version 36.0.0 or later, but libpng12.0.dylib provides version 30.0.0 error: [import]: ERROR: can't load library in 'gridflow' What version of Pd-extended are you using ? I made the package referring to what libs were distributed with the most recent release (0.41.4)... ~/ p...@banshee$ otool -L /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libpng12.0.dylib /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libpng12.0.dylib: �...@executable_path/../../lib/libpng12.0.dylib (compatibility version 36.0.0, current version 36.0.0) /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.2.3) /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 88.3.11) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://plenum.tumblr.com http://myspace.com/plenummusic -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midifile ... in reverse
hello, rj-library, the help file for [c_seqplay] contains an example how to convert a midi file to a text file, that [qlist] can read (using Cyclon's [seq] instead of [midifile]). Once you have the qlist-file, you can reverse it using for example the tac command in Linux/OS-X - tac is the opposite of cat. yeah this is nice. I will have to try it out this week when i get the chance This actually isn't too hard if some external tools are allowed. yeah i have been using 'gnmidi' on windows to reverse midi files and do some other manipulations on them. also there is an interesting keykit webapp that does some nice stuff (http://www.nosuch.com/tjt/tunetoys.html) ... ableton also has added some nice midi functionality. i was trying to figure out how to do some of these things (reversing, random tick sequence) directly in PD with midifile but i get a lot of hangs... Actually doing it might be difficult though - MIDI files have variable-length fields, so you probably have to decode *all* of it into some other format or data structure before you start playing from the end. ... with this in mind. so, yeah, the midi - text file / qlist stuff looks more promising... Thanks for the responses! mark --- On Mon, 11/2/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] midifile ... in reverse To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 4:35 AM Hallo, Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: mark edward grimm wrote: Is is possible to play a midifile in reverse Sure, if you want each note-off message to happen before its corresponding note-on messages! Actually doing it might be difficult though - MIDI files have variable-length fields, so you probably have to decode *all* of it into some other format or data structure before you start playing from the end. This actually isn't too hard if some external tools are allowed. In the rj-library, the help file for [c_seqplay] contains an example how to convert a midi file to a text file, that [qlist] can read (using Cyclon's [seq] instead of [midifile]). Once you have the qlist-file, you can reverse it using for example the tac command in Linux/OS-X - tac is the opposite of cat. As qlist-files encode delta times or times between events, loading this reversed file into qlist will make it play back the whole midi file backwards. As you noted, the notoffs then happen before the noteoffs, so some additional tweaking may be wanted, either to the file format or to your Pd player logic. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] midifile ... in reverse
Is is possible to play a midifile in reverse with [midifile]? Something I would
think would work
[metro]
|
[f]x[- 1]
|
[$1{
doesn't seems to work right
unless i need a [t f b] ... but that doesn't seem to work very well either.
maybe I just have the post-halloween hangover.
thanks!
m
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Re: [PD] midifile ... in reverse
Happy hangover,
ugh... why the tequila!!!?? why
--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote:
From: Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl
Subject: Re: [PD] midifile ... in reverse
To: mgr...@syr.edu
Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at
Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 2:32 PM
Subtract the number you get from this
counter from the total number of lines in the file maybe?
Happy hangover,
D.
mark edward grimm wrote:
Is is possible to play a midifile in reverse with
[midifile]? Something I would think would work
[metro]
|
[f]x[- 1]
|
[$1{
doesn't seems to work right
-- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista :::
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Re: [PD] call for snow leopard test
im on 10.6.1 3) try using it and see if the menubar goes crazy, open and close some patches, etc. just opened and closed about thirty patches. no menu bar problems 4) delete the Frameworks inside (right-click on the nope no menu problems either... is it supposed to happen quickly? easily? --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] call for snow leopard test To: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 7:28 PM Are there any early adopters out there who could do a quick test on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard for me? Its pretty easy: 1) download this: http://autobuild.puredata.info/pdlab/Pd-0.43.0-devel-20091019.app.zip 2) unzip it and run it (its a test build for Snow Leopard) 3) try using it and see if the menubar goes crazy, open and close some patches, etc. 4) delete the Frameworks inside (right-click on the Pd-0.43.0-devel-20091019.app and choose Show Package Contents, then delete the Frameworks folder 5) try using it again and see if the menubar goes crazy, open and close some patches, etc. I was getting this: .hc [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] PD + Lingerie
Pd meets fashion! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C10C1oTfDZM Visuals all PD. Audio is not (obviously). Very bad iPhone video/sound. BUT thought I would share anyway. The event was just super fun cheers mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Percolate
So it seems that right now you have two options; find a way to do your project without the Percolate objects, or move to Max/MSP ... um... thats not true. i compiled the source a while ago. heres a binary. works on 10.5 and 10.6 if on osx: http://megrimm.net/software/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5.zip i have the sources + xcode project somewhere I think... i would have to look around... mark --- On Sat, 9/26/09, rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net wrote: From: rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net Subject: Re: [PD] Percolate To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 2:14 AM Jose, Since no one else has answered your question so far, and since I had to find an answer to the same question only a few weeks ago, this is what I know about the current state of development of Percolate: You can find the different versions of Percolate at http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/ From there, there is a link to a Pd version of Percolate by Olaf Matthes. This version, however, is no longer available. From what I've heard - I was not around when this happened - Olaf seems to have decided to no longer develop for Pd after a dispute with other developers. Unfortunately, no one has stepped up to the plate to create a new port. So it seems that right now you have two options; find a way to do your project without the Percolate objects, or move to Max/MSP ... Hope this helps. Rene From: Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Percolate To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4345df630909241518w2a3b5dd3xcb5db24a89912...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear friends, well i am working with music and arduino and i need the old library percolate... with objects like a bamboo~, marimba~ etc... Can yours help me... Thanks a lot Jos? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Percolate
Or including it in Pd-extended!?! yeah that would be ideal! BTW Mark, have you thought about dropping the Percolate developers a note to ask them to update their links? ha... no :) m --- On Sat, 9/26/09, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Percolate To: rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 12:21 PM Or including it in Pd-extended!?! ~Kyle On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM, rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net wrote: I stand corrected :) Mark, thanks! This is great! Now, if someone could also point me to a Windoze version of Percolate for Pd, I'd be totally happy :) Rene BTW Mark, have you thought about dropping the Percolate developers a note to ask them to update their links? On Sep 26, 2009, at 18:12, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:29:53 -0700 (PDT) From: mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu Subject: Re: [PD] Percolate To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 358216.94182...@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 So it seems that right now you have two options; find a way to do your project without the Percolate objects, or move to Max/MSP ... um... thats not true. i compiled the source a while ago. heres a binary. works on 10.5 and 10.6 if on osx: http://megrimm.net/software/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5.zip i have the sources + xcode project somewhere I think... i would have to look around... mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://plenum.tumblr.com http://myspace.com/plenummusic -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_write bugs (timelapse)
hey thats pretty nice!! much nicer than my poor gem attempt last month... and the patch: put this to / because of the bug in pix_write to make it work. put a folder called frames beside it. yeah this is weird huh? --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: From: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com Subject: [PD] GEM pix_write bugs (timelapse) To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 12:52 PM hi list, i've thrown together this tiny gem patch which makes a timelapse slideshow. i have encountered a few issues with it. configuration: Pd version 0.41.4-extended-20090223 GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Feb 23 2009 OS X 10.5.6 the issues: 1. pix_write doesn't interpret the file path correctly. it seems it can't understand relative paths at all. 2. pix_write accepts a message [file file [type](. it creates files with a .jpg ending if the type is 0. But in reality it still is a TIFF. no matter what value you write. 3. pix_write creates files with an acending number 0... this conflicts with how other objects like pix_multiimage do it (0...9) just submitted that to the gem bugtracker. and the patch: put this to / because of the bug in pix_write to make it work. put a folder called frames beside it. beware: this patch will also eat up all the memory and will crash pd. this isn't pix_writes problem though - i'll try to find out why this is now. max -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] stop animation/motion in pd/gem
hello, i just stumbled on toonloop: http://alexandre.quessy.net/?q=toonloop just got me interested/curious if someone has written a similar patch in pd (toonloop = processing.org) thanks! mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] stop animation/motion in pd/gem
examples/pdp/example12.pd from pdp does something similar, thats great. i had never seen that one! thanks for pointer GridFlow has a nervous_video.pd patch that shows how to store a bunch of frames in a big grid... that looks pretty elegant and will give it a shot on linux machine... BTW was wondering though if there are any plans to implement gridflow in extended? it would benefit our freshmen students for ease of installation/use on osx machines they now all run and i would love to demo this nerv_vid example... ToonLoop, I immediately thought about this music video made in 1986: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMylfkSDKV0 awesome! i dont remember ever seeing that one before not even in the '80's!! - mark --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] stop animation/motion in pd/gem To: mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 4:36 PM On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, mark edward grimm wrote: i just stumbled on toonloop: http://alexandre.quessy.net/?q=toonloop When, two weeks ago, my girlfriend introduced me to ToonLoop, I immediately thought about this music video made in 1986: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMylfkSDKV0 just got me interested/curious if someone has written a similar patch in pd (toonloop = processing.org) Should be fairly simple. GridFlow has a nervous_video.pd patch that shows how to store a bunch of frames in a big grid... for 32 frames of 240 rows of 320 columns of 3 channels, you just make a grid of size (32 240 320 3) and that's all. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] shell .... again....
i have been trying to use shell... works OK in linux but in osx it just crashes. i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html i have it in a bunch of patches now and would love to use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility (osx) because i tend to work with others + other os's. maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank suggested? or might shell someday get fixed? not sure what to do cheers mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] shell .... again....
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang? yeah its really weird i get: the application pd quit unexpectedly then i can ignore or relaunch... either choice PD still runs in the background. the ignore or relaunch seems to be only a nag screen that does not do anything... but at the same time creates the situation that make PD unusable... anyone else with he same? maybe its leopard thing? --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] shell again To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward grimm wrote: i have been trying to use shell... works OK in linux but in osx it just crashes. i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html i have it in a bunch of patches now and would love to use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility (osx) because i tend to work with others + other os's. maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank suggested? or might shell someday get fixed? not sure what to do what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang? it's been a while, since i used [shell] the last time, but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i wanted, it was just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that it immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the background. commands, that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this only applies, if you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of course. roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] shell .... again....
oh... and PD does not quit. even if i hit relaunch or ignore or even if i just try to quit in general i have to force quit and this has been like this for a little while on differnt systems.. at least at the leopard level. not sure about tiger/ppc/intel - not sure if that all made a difference --- On Sun, 3/8/09, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: From: mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu Subject: Re: [PD] shell again To: reduzie...@yahoo.de Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:07 PM what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang? yeah its really weird i get: the application pd quit unexpectedly then i can ignore or relaunch... either choice PD still runs in the background. the ignore or relaunch seems to be only a nag screen that does not do anything... but at the same time creates the situation that make PD unusable... anyone else with he same? maybe its leopard thing? --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] shell again To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward grimm wrote: i have been trying to use shell... works OK in linux but in osx it just crashes. i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html i have it in a bunch of patches now and would love to use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility (osx) because i tend to work with others + other os's. maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank suggested? or might shell someday get fixed? not sure what to do what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang? it's been a while, since i used [shell] the last time, but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i wanted, it was just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that it immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the background. commands, that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this only applies, if you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of course. roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] shell .... again....
Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit, 'pd' stay. You have to r u saying this might be a normal thing for pd-extended? for the most part no (actually on ubuntu 8.10 pd-extended recently i have to xkill fairly often?) on osx... but sometimes, more rarely, yes. not sure what you are asking though... is this a general problem or an issue related to [shell] still? m --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: From: Jack j...@rybn.org Subject: Re: [PD] shell again To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: reduzie...@yahoo.de, pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:18 PM Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit, 'pd' stay. You have to force 'pd' to quit then relauch 'Pd-extended' (if i'm right). ++ Jack Le 8 mars 09 à 21:12, mark edward grimm a écrit : oh... and PD does not quit. even if i hit relaunch or ignore or even if i just try to quit in general i have to force quit and this has been like this for a little while on differnt systems.. at least at the leopard level. not sure about tiger/ppc/ intel - not sure if that all made a difference --- On Sun, 3/8/09, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: From: mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu Subject: Re: [PD] shell again To: reduzie...@yahoo.de Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:07 PM what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang? yeah its really weird i get: the application pd quit unexpectedly then i can ignore or relaunch... either choice PD still runs in the background. the ignore or relaunch seems to be only a nag screen that does not do anything... but at the same time creates the situation that make PD unusable... anyone else with he same? maybe its leopard thing? --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] shell again To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward grimm wrote: i have been trying to use shell... works OK in linux but in osx it just crashes. i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html i have it in a bunch of patches now and would love to use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility (osx) because i tend to work with others + other os's. maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank suggested? or might shell someday get fixed? not sure what to do what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang? it's been a while, since i used [shell] the last time, but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i wanted, it was just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that it immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the background. commands, that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this only applies, if you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of course. roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux
so i did get this working on linux with mencoder + pdp_rawin using code: #! /bin/sh rm /tmp/pipe mknod /tmp/pipe p mencoder -nosound -ovc raw -of rawvideo -vf scale,format=rgb24 mms://ph.wm.live05.pscdn.net/00302597_live12?MSWMExt=.asf -o /tmp/pipe although i am finding this might be inefficient having to convert colorspace from yuv - rgb - yuvthe only way i have been able to get this to work is to do this. i am not sure why, admitting i am limited in my understanding of colorspace. From mencoder i get something like: Decoder is capable of YUV output (flags 0x1b) VDec: vo config request - 320 x 240 (preferred colorspace: Packed YUY2) VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied. [swscaler @ 0x883e3d0]No accelerated colorspace conversion found [swscaler @ 0x883e3d0]SwScaler: using unscaled yuv420p - rgb24 special converter then with pdp_rawin i have to send messages: [tmp/pipe( [bitmap/rgb/320x240( then i have to convert back to yuv using: [pdp_convert image/YCrCb/*] and thats the only way i can get it to work. i have tried something like: [pdp_rawin tmp/pipe bitmap/yuv (or even yv12)/320x240] with accompanying altered mencoder script with nothing but a static, f'ed up image. i am not complaining too much because i am pretty happy this is just working in general... i am just looking to make it a little more efficient and i am a little confused over all the yuv/yv12 stuff that is going on and why i have to convert to rgb and back to yuv just to get it to work right - with the understanding pdp/yuv is the fastest and most efficient. BTW the piping stuff is really killer! although i have only been able to get it to work on linux... osx gives me a wicked big file that continuously increases in size as the stream is converted. linux just makes a 0k tmp/pipe that is very nice. i guess this is just a mencoder thing on osx obviously. thanks! m --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com, pd-list pd-list@iem.at, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 12:50 PM Well, I haven't done it myself, I just know you can...there is a mencoder list: MEncoder usage discussions mencoder-us...@mplayerhq.hu, and documentation somewhere. best, Jaime On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:17 AM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: yeah i will take a look at this... might you have an example shell script + pd patch for piping stream from mencoder to pdp_rawin? i saw this thread but i am not sure if issue ever were resolved: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-04/061727.html thanks! m --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com, pd-list pd-list@iem.at, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 2:24 AM MEncoder maybe? On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:50 AM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: no, pdp_icedthe~ can receive a stream ah thats right thanks! we will not try to support an .asx/proprietary format, understandable yeah i want to hijack someone else's stream - it just happens to be in .asx!!! i wonder if there is a method for real-time transcoding? from asx to ogg? mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 --- On Fri, 2/27/09, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote: From: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:39 AM mark edward grimm wrote: hmmm... yeah sorry for changing the subject on this. I was actually wondering the opposite of the original poster, how to get a stream 'into' pd For example i have access to a stream (http://someone-elses-website/live12.asx) that is not my own This stream I can open in VLC player for example How can I utilize this stream in pd? directly or indirectly (through vlc player?). to do motion tracking on the stream for example. the pdp_theora stuff is just for streaming out FROM pd correct
Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux
yeah i will take a look at this... might you have an example shell script + pd patch for piping stream from mencoder to pdp_rawin? i saw this thread but i am not sure if issue ever were resolved: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-04/061727.html thanks! m --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com, pd-list pd-list@iem.at, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 2:24 AM MEncoder maybe? On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:50 AM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: no, pdp_icedthe~ can receive a stream ah thats right thanks! we will not try to support an .asx/proprietary format, understandable yeah i want to hijack someone else's stream - it just happens to be in .asx!!! i wonder if there is a method for real-time transcoding? from asx to ogg? mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 --- On Fri, 2/27/09, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote: From: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:39 AM mark edward grimm wrote: hmmm... yeah sorry for changing the subject on this. I was actually wondering the opposite of the original poster, how to get a stream 'into' pd For example i have access to a stream (http://someone-elses-website/live12.asx) that is not my own This stream I can open in VLC player for example How can I utilize this stream in pd? directly or indirectly (through vlc player?). to do motion tracking on the stream for example. the pdp_theora stuff is just for streaming out FROM pd correct? no, pdp_icedthe~ can receive a stream but only in ogg/theora format, we will not try to support an .asx/proprietary format, well not me. sevy m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliv...@ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Transcoding Stream in VLC = pd = pdp_icedthe~
yeah good deal...
i am giving it a shot without much luck. i would have to 'dump raw input' on
vlc (i think) otherwise i just get a big huge file. though this method does not
seem to work well...here on osx now but will try on linux when i have access to
my system on monday.
just tried the VLC = pdp_icedthe~ thing again. have it working and connecting
then i get:
pdp_icedthe~ : headers too long.
from a previous thread i take it this is an osx thing? or? another issue
maybe?
Thanks!
mark
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Subject: Re: [PD] Transcoding Stream in VLC = pd = pdp_icedthe~
To: mgr...@syr.edu
Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 10:39 AM
ola,
i think you should look into a solution like this,
using pdp_rawin :
http://mcs.hackitectura.net/tiki-index.php?page=mplayer+and+pdp_raw
xiaoo,
sevy
mark edward grimm wrote:
OK. I was looking into transcodeing a live asx stream
so i could use it in PD with pdp_icedthe~
my VLC m3u file looks like this:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,live12.asx
#EXTVLCOPT:sout=#transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=800,scale=1}:duplicate{dst=std{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=localhost:8080}}
mms://ph.wm.live05.pscdn.net/00302597_live12?MSWMExt=.asf
can anyone tell if i am doing something wrong? it all
runs fine in VLC and seems like its transcoding yet I get :
pdp_icedthe~ : connecting to
url=http://localhost:8080/
pdp_icedthe~ : connecting to host=localhost
port=8080 mountpoint=
error: pdp_icedthe~: connection failed!
pdp_icedthe~ : connection thread 0 launched
i probably dont need the localhost part...
but either way it does not work. apache is installed and
running. is there something maybe with port i should do?
i guess i just cant tell where I am, or if, i am
missing something...
im on ubuntu 8.10 now... but will be on osx 10.5 this
weekend. right now it does not work on either.
maybe someone has done this already?
Thanks
mark
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Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux
hmmm... yeah sorry for changing the subject on this. I was actually wondering the opposite of the original poster, how to get a stream 'into' pd For example i have access to a stream (http://someone-elses-website/live12.asx) that is not my own This stream I can open in VLC player for example How can I utilize this stream in pd? directly or indirectly (through vlc player?). to do motion tracking on the stream for example. the pdp_theora stuff is just for streaming out FROM pd correct? m --- On Wed, 2/25/09, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote: From: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 12:47 PM pdp_live~/pdp_mp4live~ are abandonned and are based on very old versions of ffmpeg and mpeg4ip, which are not in use anymore... the code stays here for historical reasons, and you can compile them using --with-ffmpeg and --with-mpeg4ip respectively.. the way now to do streaming is to do ogg/theora streaming on an icecast server, all technical about these solutions and pd patches in the giss.tv project wiki : http://giss.tv/wiki/index.php/Main_Page xiaoo, sevy mark edward grimm wrote: * also in pdp/pidip there's some other's pdp_mp4live~ etc. I suspect the ffserver-based ones don't work in pd-extended. there was also pdp_live~ that i was looking into the other day but pd couldn't create in either linux nor osx. i was looking to do the opposite: get a live stream from the network into pd/gem/pdp. not sure if anyone has a solution but i did not find one. maybe VLC-pd somehow? or maybe another way? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com wrote: From: John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:54 PM Somebody was just asking me about options for streaming audio and video in Pd-extended. I wouldn't mind help with the answer. Here's what I have gathered so far. Audio: * streamin~ and streamout~ --- but the help patches don't seem to work in Linux. Seems to work ok in windows. * netsend~ and netreceive~ --- not provided in pd-extended and seemed a bit flaky when I tried them before. * mp3streamin~ and mp3streamout~ --- help patch missing in pd-extended but seem to work ok outside of Windows. * mp3cast~ and friends: seems to work ok if you have a shoutcast server... Video: * I couldn't find anything in Gem to stream video. Did I miss it? I was wondering if using pix_pix2sig~, streaming as audio, then pix_sig2pix~ might work. * in pdp/pidip there's pdp_i and pdp_o. I didn't find help patches for these in pd_extended * also in pdp/pidip there's some other's pdp_mp4live~ etc. I suspect the ffserver-based ones don't work in pd-extended. Not sure on the others. For either audio or video maybe there's a way to send to vlc through the stdin or stdout, then let vlc do the streaming? -John -- John Harrison http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux
no, pdp_icedthe~ can receive a stream ah thats right thanks! we will not try to support an .asx/proprietary format, understandable yeah i want to hijack someone else's stream - it just happens to be in .asx!!! i wonder if there is a method for real-time transcoding? from asx to ogg? mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 --- On Fri, 2/27/09, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote: From: ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: mgr...@syr.edu Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:39 AM mark edward grimm wrote: hmmm... yeah sorry for changing the subject on this. I was actually wondering the opposite of the original poster, how to get a stream 'into' pd For example i have access to a stream (http://someone-elses-website/live12.asx) that is not my own This stream I can open in VLC player for example How can I utilize this stream in pd? directly or indirectly (through vlc player?). to do motion tracking on the stream for example. the pdp_theora stuff is just for streaming out FROM pd correct? no, pdp_icedthe~ can receive a stream but only in ogg/theora format, we will not try to support an .asx/proprietary format, well not me. sevy m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Transcoding Stream in VLC = pd = pdp_icedthe~
OK. I was looking into transcodeing a live asx stream so i could use it in PD
with pdp_icedthe~
my VLC m3u file looks like this:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,live12.asx
#EXTVLCOPT:sout=#transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=800,scale=1}:duplicate{dst=std{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=localhost:8080}}
mms://ph.wm.live05.pscdn.net/00302597_live12?MSWMExt=.asf
can anyone tell if i am doing something wrong? it all runs fine in VLC and
seems like its transcoding yet I get :
pdp_icedthe~ : connecting to url=http://localhost:8080/
pdp_icedthe~ : connecting to host=localhost port=8080 mountpoint=
error: pdp_icedthe~: connection failed!
pdp_icedthe~ : connection thread 0 launched
i probably dont need the localhost part... but either way it does not work.
apache is installed and running. is there something maybe with port i should do?
i guess i just cant tell where I am, or if, i am missing something...
im on ubuntu 8.10 now... but will be on osx 10.5 this weekend. right now it
does not work on either.
maybe someone has done this already?
Thanks
mark
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syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts
adjunct | new media consultant
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Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux
* also in pdp/pidip there's some other's pdp_mp4live~ etc. I suspect the ffserver-based ones don't work in pd-extended. there was also pdp_live~ that i was looking into the other day but pd couldn't create in either linux nor osx. i was looking to do the opposite: get a live stream from the network into pd/gem/pdp. not sure if anyone has a solution but i did not find one. maybe VLC-pd somehow? or maybe another way? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com wrote: From: John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:54 PM Somebody was just asking me about options for streaming audio and video in Pd-extended. I wouldn't mind help with the answer. Here's what I have gathered so far. Audio: * streamin~ and streamout~ --- but the help patches don't seem to work in Linux. Seems to work ok in windows. * netsend~ and netreceive~ --- not provided in pd-extended and seemed a bit flaky when I tried them before. * mp3streamin~ and mp3streamout~ --- help patch missing in pd-extended but seem to work ok outside of Windows. * mp3cast~ and friends: seems to work ok if you have a shoutcast server... Video: * I couldn't find anything in Gem to stream video. Did I miss it? I was wondering if using pix_pix2sig~, streaming as audio, then pix_sig2pix~ might work. * in pdp/pidip there's pdp_i and pdp_o. I didn't find help patches for these in pd_extended * also in pdp/pidip there's some other's pdp_mp4live~ etc. I suspect the ffserver-based ones don't work in pd-extended. Not sure on the others. For either audio or video maybe there's a way to send to vlc through the stdin or stdout, then let vlc do the streaming? -John -- John Harrison http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PD + Digi 003
Hey, Does anyone have any experience with the Digi 003? We have two of these things in our labs and every time i try to use Jack with it I get: Error: Cannot start Jack server, Please check preferences or retry after a system reboot. I have a demo of audio hijack that uses soundflower and seems to work fine if i choose soundflower as my pd output. i can not choose the digi 003 directly from pd? not sure if this is a jack problem? anyone get this this to work with jack/pd? i know these things are a pain in the ass. digidesignbite me on this one! m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video bluescreen
Mark, managed to see yours working, yep its pretty raw but it's a start which is what I needed. hey if you get it optimized can you send me the result? my time is really limited lately but i would love to give a demo to my class this semester with your results. i still have not tried it on our own green screen yet for lack of time... glad i was a little useful! thanks mark --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Garrett Lynch li...@asquare.org wrote: From: Garrett Lynch li...@asquare.org Subject: Re: [PD] video bluescreen To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 2:02 PM Hi Apologies for the slowness of my reply. Thanks both for the examples. I couldn't get pix_background working Ben but it seems to be not what I'm looking for on this occasion anyway. Mark, managed to see yours working, yep its pretty raw but it's a start which is what I needed. Many thanks. a+ gar You don't actually load a base image into pix_background, you send a [reset( message to the [pix_background] object and it takes a snapshot of whatever's in front of the connected camera (or incoming video stream). Then it compares all incoming frames with that snapshot and outputs anything that's different between the two. The right inlet sets the threshold and takes an RGB value, so you will have to adjust this to reduce inevitable noise and artifacting. I have attached a very basic version of this patch I've described. I don't have a cam attached to this computer and don't have the time to test it, but it should work. -Ben http://megrimm.net/software/green-screen-pd-0.01/green-screen-pd.zip this sort of works although its still pretty sloppy. didn't try with screen yet but with the help of iohannes and jacks color picker examples one should be able to key out any solid color from a video just by selecting it in a gem window. works on my side on osx. mark _ garr...@asquare.org http://www.asquare.org/ http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Color Picker / Chooser From Gem Window
Hello, Is there anyway to choose a color from a Gem window with mouse? and send RGB value to patch I'm thinking gimp/photoshop eye droplet kind of thing. Thanks! mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Color Picker / Chooser From Gem Window
thats awesome! thanks... you guys rock! m --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: From: Jack j...@rybn.org Subject: Re: [PD] Color Picker / Chooser From Gem Window To: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 11:29 AM Ok, thanx for the tips. ++ Jack Le 4 févr. 09 à 17:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : Jack wrote: Here a patch like iohannes, but using [pix_data] instead of [pix_dump]. Why i get different (wrong) colors with [pix_data] ? For exemple white is (0.996,0.996,0.996), it should be (1,1,1). it's a minor bug in pix_data. to correct the values do | [ * 256] | [/ 255] | mfgasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video bluescreen
http://megrimm.net/software/green-screen-pd-0.01/green-screen-pd.zip this sort of works although its still pretty sloppy. didn't try with screen yet but with the help of iohannes and jacks color picker examples one should be able to key out any solid color from a video just by selecting it in a gem window. works on my side on osx. mark --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Garrett Lynch li...@asquare.org wrote: From: Garrett Lynch li...@asquare.org Subject: Re: [PD] video bluescreen To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 5:31 AM Hi I've triedpix_background and can't see how two images are fed in (but it's late and I need to come back to it again later in the week). I had already tried pix_chroma_key without much success but I'll have a look at this tutorial and see if it helps. Again if anyone has a simple example that would be great but I'll keep chipping away at it in the meantime. a+ gar On 3 Feb 2009, at 19:41, Martin Schied wrote: Hi, Garrett Lynch wrote: I'm trying to put together a video bluescreen and I'm just not finding the right object I think. pix_multiply sort of does what I want by dropping out white in a video and replacing it with another video but how do I get this working with a defined colour (i.e. not necessarily white but the blue or green normally used in studios). There seem a few objects that deal with different ways of mixing images/videos pix_mask, pix_mix, pix_composite etc. Which is the right one to use? Thanks in advance. [pix_chroma_key] could do what you need. For higher quality results you'll have to use several objects and use some compositing techniques like explained here: http://www.blendedplanet.com/?Freebie_Tutorials:The_Ultimate_Keyer It's for blender3d and probably overkill for your needs but you can use some of its basic principles in GEM too. - btw has anyone done something like that in pd? I only used it in blender some time ago. cheers, Martin _ garr...@asquare.org http://www.asquare.org/ http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video bluescreen
hello... i would be interested in this too if anyone has something. i actually was just trying some stuff out with a green screen but did not get very far. although i did not play around for long i did have trouble getting the [pix_chroma_key] to work well (or do anything at all for that matter). i just did something like: [gemhead 1] | [pix_video] | [pix_alpha] and [gemhead] | [pix_film] ...but im sure there is someone that knows something better optimized for green/blue screen work. --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net wrote: From: Martin Schied crini...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [PD] video bluescreen To: Garrett Lynch li...@asquare.org Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 2:41 PM Hi, Garrett Lynch wrote: I'm trying to put together a video bluescreen and I'm just not finding the right object I think. pix_multiply sort of does what I want by dropping out white in a video and replacing it with another video but how do I get this working with a defined colour (i.e. not necessarily white but the blue or green normally used in studios). There seem a few objects that deal with different ways of mixing images/videos pix_mask, pix_mix, pix_composite etc. Which is the right one to use? Thanks in advance. [pix_chroma_key] could do what you need. For higher quality results you'll have to use several objects and use some compositing techniques like explained here: http://www.blendedplanet.com/?Freebie_Tutorials:The_Ultimate_Keyer It's for blender3d and probably overkill for your needs but you can use some of its basic principles in GEM too. - btw has anyone done something like that in pd? I only used it in blender some time ago. cheers, Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iChat / SMS - PD
hey simon... yeah thats an awesome way to do it. i hadnt thought of that.. ill give it a shot! right now i successfully have iChat sending keystroke commands to pd via applescript - not very complex. the pdsend/netrecive stuff would really help to send more complicated messages... thanks! mark --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Simon Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Simon Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] iChat / SMS - PD To: PD list pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 9:10 PM On 21 Nov 2008, at 2:03 AM, mark edward grimm wrote: Hey thanks for the tip! looks like some interesting stuff unfortunately might not be too helpful for me. im thinking iChat will have to be used because im on a computer that is multipurpose and should not be altered too much. ichat comes standard with OSX just thinking... iChat can run custom applescripts now. is there a way to send PD messages via applescript? that would work i think... probably with [key] plus something like this: set keyCode to £ tell application System Events if UI elements enabled then keystroke keyCode end if end tell ..but i wonder if there is a way to send pd messages directly from applescript? an OSX way of doing command line ... make a little script (using echo and pdsend perhaps) and put it in an executable text file then run that in your Applescript you will find pdsend at /path/to/pd/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pdsend then use [netreceive] in Pd to listen to the messages simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iChat / SMS - PD
Hey thanks for the tip! looks like some interesting stuff unfortunately might not be too helpful for me. im thinking iChat will have to be used because im on a computer that is multipurpose and should not be altered too much. ichat comes standard with OSX just thinking... iChat can run custom applescripts now. is there a way to send PD messages via applescript? that would work i think... probably with [key] plus something like this: set keyCode to £ tell application System Events if UI elements enabled then keystroke keyCode end if end tell ..but i wonder if there is a way to send pd messages directly from applescript? thanks! mar --- On Thu, 11/20/08, ---[O:O]--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ---[O:O]--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] iChat / SMS - PD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 7:39 AM hello, for sms, maybe http://www.gammu.org and [shell] object can help a+ benjamin mark edward grimm a écrit : Hello, Might there be a method for sending iChat/SMS messages to pd? I see some experiments but nothing is clear. iChat can send and receive SMS so I would just use it as my gateway to PD. I saw a post on Jabber-PD which seems to be a solution but I have been unable to locate the original thread or example patch... Thanks mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] iChat / SMS - PD
Hello, Might there be a method for sending iChat/SMS messages to pd? I see some experiments but nothing is clear. iChat can send and receive SMS so I would just use it as my gateway to PD. I saw a post on Jabber-PD which seems to be a solution but I have been unable to locate the original thread or example patch... Thanks mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Haunted House Halloween Patches.....
Hello, I was going to deck my house out for Halloween but waited until the last minute so I don't have time to put anything together Anyone have a patch that emulates a 'haunted house' or other creepy sounds? it would be fun to use PD and i could do some simple triggering using a vid cam for motion detection on the drivway. also thinking about setting up a rear projection in my front window with some cloudy plastic. any spooky visuals? gem? just thought id ask before resorting to a boring DVD thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Haunted House Halloween Patches.....
Awesome! Works perfect with Alberto Zin's 'OuterSpace' ambiance generator... now to send a bang when i open the door to 'scarymovie'... any gem stuff? 3d skulls maybe? thanks! mark --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] Haunted House Halloween Patches. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:44 AM Lets' see... (/rummages behind counter) Will this suit you Sir? You need [ead~] On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:11:48 -0700 (PDT) mark edward grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was going to deck my house out for Halloween but waited until the last minute so I don't have time to put anything together Anyone have a patch that emulates a 'haunted house' or other creepy sounds? it would be fun to use PD and i could do some simple triggering using a vid cam for motion detection on the drivway. also thinking about setting up a rear projection in my front window with some cloudy plastic. any spooky visuals? gem? just thought id ask before resorting to a boring DVD thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Artoolkit
Hello, I am just wondering if there has been any progress on Artoolkit (help-files, compiling on osx, etc.) the last thread on this I found was: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-05/062513.html and then the conversation seemed to end. And i still get this: error: [pix_artoolkit]: compiled without ARToolKit support! ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. When creating object. Is that supposed to be? Thanks! mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Artoolkit
Hi Patrick, yeah i remember trying this tip out a few months ago with bad luck... maybe ill give it a shot again in xcode. m --- On Wed, 10/29/08, patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] Artoolkit To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 10:50 AM hi mark, error: [pix_artoolkit]: compiled without ARToolKit support! i really think pix_artoolkit is not working. it can load a marker, init the camera, but it doesn't report the position of the marker. BUT i know that Johannes Taelman managed to make it work on windows... still if you want to try it out (or sort it out): http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-11/056634.html this is how i did it: PKG_ARTOOLKIT_CFLAGS=-Ihome/pat/11h11/yeux/artoolkit/include PKG_ARTOOLKIT_LIBS=-L/home/pat/11h11/yeux/artoolkit/lib -lAR ./configure --with-artoolkit-includes=/home/pat/11h11/yeux/artoolkit/include --with-artoolkit-libs=/home/pat/11h11/yeux/artoolkit/lib --with-artoolkit-libs --with-v4l2 --with-glversion=2.0 --enable-sse2 --enable-Vertex --without-avifile let us know, pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] help with pix_opencv in mac intel
wicked... got it compiled. got *.pd_darwin's. a quick test and they all seem to work fine! let me know if anyone wants the binaries! i also noticed the colorspace has to be set to RGBA right? some of the help patches have the default as grey that didnt seem to work or do anything... Thanks for the help! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 --- On Thu, 9/18/08, palmieri, ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: palmieri, ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] help with pix_opencv in mac intel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at list PD-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 2:56 PM hi, try to download the opencv1.0.0 http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/opencvlibrary/opencv-1.0.0.tar.gz do the mod like wrote here: http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?do=indexid=start%3Apuredata_opencv use the cpp attacvhed in your pix_opencv folder before to compile. good luck palmieri 2008/9/18 mark edward grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hello, i just tried to compile on 10.5 intel osx pd-ext.40.3 and it seems the open= cv lib wiki is down or blank or something like that http://opencvlibrary.sourceforge.net/ is there another place for the source? OR does anyone have binaries they ca= n provide? i remember marius had a successful compile on 10.5 if i remember correct. thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 --- On Wed, 9/17/08, palmieri, ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: palmieri, ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PD] help with pix_opencv in mac intel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at list PD-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 2:01 PM hi guys. i did a sucefull installation of pix_opencv in my powerbook g4 and in a g5 computer, running os10.4 but im trying to compile using the steps in hangar website, and everything compile fine. but i have strange a situation using the object pix_opencv_contours_boundingrect: it only give the data output to blob 0. somebody have some tip how to solve it? its a pix_opencv object trouble, or something in the makefile? ah, i can see the multiples blobs in my gem window. my trouble is only with this object and its data output. thanks again palmieri -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd
well after banging my head against the wall for a couple hours late yesterday afternoon i found the trouble to be with the 'pipeline' object in my patch... it also was odd that i couldn't connect prior to firing up the interface builder (mrmrIB) app. once i did that that mrmr auto-connected upon launch whether mrmrIB was launched or not. also i noticed that mrmr does not seem to retain its port settings - i have to re-type it in every time the app is launched. once its running it controls my patch just fine and fairly fast! I would be nice to know what you cook up. just using it as demo for my students right now. all incoming freshman received a free 'ipod touch' with the purchase of a mac - so they all have the means to experiment now! fun fun mark --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Steffen Juul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Steffen Juul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pd_list pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 8:55 AM On 06/09/2008, at 17.20, mark edward grimm wrote: hello, i just noticed that cydia offers 'mrmr' on the 2.0 jailbroken iphones. i never tried it on the old 1.1.4 firmware so im not certain how to connect the iphone to pd. im on osx 10.5. is there a tutorial on how to make the connection to send osc? There is this: http://poly.share.dj/helpfiles/mrmr_quickstart/ mrmr_quickstart.pdf The interface builder (mrmrIB) doesn't seam to run on 10.4 but on 10.5 - so your are lucky. I haven't tried the IB yet as i don't run 10.5, but i was to make a performance app/interface combo for a friend who got one of them phones. It doesn't say much about it in the tutorial but i suspect that while building the interface you'd give the widgets a OSC-name. I would be nice to know what you cook up. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mrmr + iphone + pd
hello, i just noticed that cydia offers 'mrmr' on the 2.0 jailbroken iphones. i never tried it on the old 1.1.4 firmware so im not certain how to connect the iphone to pd. im on osx 10.5. is there a tutorial on how to make the connection to send osc? i have not been able to locate ...other than this hard to see youtube vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDtdxVJXn-Efeature=related anyway... here the link to the mrmr site: http://poly.share.dj/projects/#mrmr and the pd patch stuff: http://pissypaws.tumblr.com/post/33502398/pdipod-mrmr-to-pd-on-iphone-ipod-touch step-by-step guide maybe? thanks! mark ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Clear Memory/Unload Movies pix_film Gem
There might be an easy answer but I couldn't seem to locate... I am loading all movies (30-40 movs) from randomly chosen folders sequentially. I would like to somehow 'clear' or 'unload' movies to free memory, etc. prior to loading the next folder. So: load all movies in 'folder $0' unload all movies load all movies in 'folder $0' unload all movies load all movies in 'folder $0' so on and so on.. am i missing something? Thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Clear Memory/Unload Movies pix_film Gem
ah so if i load a new folder full of clips all clips loaded previously will clear... ok thats easy thanks!! m mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 --- On Fri, 8/15/08, chris clepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: chris clepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] Clear Memory/Unload Movies pix_film Gem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 1:17 PM The first thing that happens when you load a movie is all previous memory is cleared. There is no way to 'clear' memory because it is always done anyway. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:01 PM, mark edward grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be an easy answer but I couldn't seem to locate... I am loading all movies (30-40 movs) from randomly chosen folders sequentially. I would like to somehow 'clear' or 'unload' movies to free memory, etc. prior to loading the next folder. So: load all movies in 'folder $0' unload all movies load all movies in 'folder $0' unload all movies load all movies in 'folder $0' so on and so on.. am i missing something? Thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmedia.org/GROUP LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdlua also into vanilla?
i was looking at this too this morning... wasn't pdlua in pd-extended once? or am i mistaken... maybe that was an old build prior to 10.5 autobuild? thanks! mark --- On Fri, 7/18/08, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PD] pdlua also into vanilla? To: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 9:41 AM hi, frank suggested this already, http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-03/060081.html I'd like to support the idea of shipping pdlua as closely as possible with vanilla (frank suggested a status like [expr]). right now pdlua is not even in pdx, which I hope can still be added? marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spotlight Importer for OS X
Yo This is awesome!! Thanks for doing this (again) cheers mark --- On Thu, 6/19/08, Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PD] Spotlight Importer for OS X To: pd-liste List pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 8:10 AM Hi all, Here's a Spotlight importer for Pd (and AFAIK .pat) files. Starting with tonight or tomorrow's autobuild, installing it (just double-click it) will let Spotlight look inside your Pd patches. Also, a beneficial side-effect of a necessary change to Pd-extended's bundle means that Pd-patches are now Quick Look-enabled (don't get /too/ excited, it is only the plaintext representation, but still extremely handy). And after the importer itself gets enveloped by Pd-extended's bundle, it will just work (no installation needed). This version just indexes the entire text. In the future I could add specific metadata keys to correspond to Pure Data Objects, Pure Data Messages, Pure Data Comments, and Pure Data [declares], which could then be used to construct complex Spotlight queries (but I just learned enough Obj-C to get this far tonight so give me a while : ) ). Hans, apparently placing it in Pd-extended.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight will make it magically start working the first time Pd is dragged out of its .dmg. I don't have a clue about building this dynamically in the autobuilds, but since it is a Universal Binary and OS X only is it cool to add statically? enjoy Luke (by the way, you'll know you have the right Pd-extended when running mdls -name kMDItemContentType a-patch.pd gives org.puredata.pd-patch rather than dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81a3a or similar)___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Teaching Pd to Children
Hi Kyle, This is great! I have always thought PD was a great was to teach children the bridge between math and art I actually once gave my children (2 girls, 6 and 8 at the time) a brief PD tutorial and found them to be very creative and intuitive with the limited objects that I exposed them to. I just showed them how to create objects, messages, bangs and number boxes and then how to patch them together - all through the menu, no key shortcuts. Then I gave them a few of the simplest object names (osc~, metro, random, dac~) and taught them a little randomization synth and how to create sounds with a number box + osc~ all very simple stuff. Then I introduced the math objects (+, -, *, /) - nothing too fancy. And that was it for lesson One! They played with this for a couple hours and built a really interesting patch that made some fun sound... they loved it and I found that with just a few simple tools children can really begin to experiment in different ways than we can - maybe they do not have the same institutional exposure of 'the right way' and 'the wrong way'? I have found that any method children can utilize to learn through personal exploration and ENJOY learning is the 'right' way to learn... After a bit you can see when they start to become a little bored and that is when you can begin to introduce new concepts and objects to keep their attention... Worked for me! This is just my personal case-study. It would be interesting if you documented your experiences in a research study maybe? PD and primary school education? It would be a good study for 'Studies in Art Education' or a similar education based journal cheers mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PD] Teaching Pd to Children To: PDlist pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 2:30 PM Hello Listers~ I'm teaching a 1 month Summer school session for K-8 grade students and would like to include Pd for a mathematics learning tool. I am wondering if anyone else has done something similar, or has any links to DSP/math related materials that would be suitable for this age group. Also, if anyone is sharing their lesson plans for Pd beginners, I would love to see something that I might be able to adapt for my students. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as kids often hate Summer school and I want to make this a fun activity for them. ~Kyle -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spotlight Importer for Pd OSX
Hey Luke, Too bad you lost it! Happens to the best of us! Was it this xcode tutorial you used? http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Conceptual/MDImporters/Concepts/WritingAnImp.html I will take a look at this because for me this would be extremely useful. Probably will not get a chance to take a look until next week though. One thing - if indexing plain-text will it index everything in a patch? can it exclude stuff like #N canvas 540 610 118 149 10;, #X obj 8 63, #X obj 10 64, etc. or does it even matter do you think Yeah i was looking into this last night and thought hey someone on the pd list MUST have done this already... guess i was right! cheers m --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] Spotlight Importer for Pd OSX To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-liste List pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 2:20 AM Amusingly I did exactly this, and then forgot to tell anybody about it or upload it anywhere, then I reformatted and lost it :P. It was /extremely/ useful at the time (indexing comments, etc, which I could then take advantage of with impromptu tagging and TODO etc), so I've been planning to do it again. I just followed a tutorial somewhere; if you do some googling for spotlight importer plain text source code or some combination you should pull it up. I'll do it again if you have any trouble. Cheers Luke On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:37 PM, mark edward grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Has anyone made a Spotlight Importer for PD? Or is there another way to index all content of PD files for spotlight searches in home folder for example? I just want to search a folder where I have many .pd files for content ex. 'bpm' or whatever... for object/expressions/comments in the patch itself. OSX does not seem to index .pd file content OR am I missing something? thanks! m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Spotlight Importer for Pd OSX
Hello, Has anyone made a Spotlight Importer for PD? Or is there another way to index all content of PD files for spotlight searches in home folder for example? I just want to search a folder where I have many .pd files for content ex. 'bpm' or whatever... for object/expressions/comments in the patch itself. OSX does not seem to index .pd file content OR am I missing something? thanks! m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] netpd broken?
Hi Max, Coincidently i tried this last night (or night before) and got the exact same error - pd cr.singletons. Actually i think there was a hyphen in the error so it was pd-cr.singletons The error occurred using the latest autobuild 2008-05-28 for mac intel. I then got an older build i was using prior to this (2008-05-24) and everything worked fine - no error. did something change in the autobuild maybe between 05-24 and 05-28 maybe that would give an error like this? Also all patches loaded into 'creator' were broken and gave a simalar error for me... mark --- Max Neupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2008-05-29 um 19:54 schrieb Roman Haefeli: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 19:27 +1000, Max Neupert wrote: servus roman, list, i wanted to demonstrate netpd today here in melbourne and failed. on a intel mac os x 10.5: with a fresh pd-extended 0.4xx and downloaded netpd.zip i can open _chat.pd. then when i click on creator additionally a blank patch pops up called pd cr.singletons the console spills out: netclient ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'connect' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: pd-cr.singletons: no such object i can reproduce the same on my own machine os x 10.4 ppc. [netclient] is part of maxlib. afaik, it should be found in extra/maxlib. netpd/_chat.pd has a [declare] in order to add the path of the maxlib folder. if it doesn't load, either [declare] on those versions of pd-extended are broken or netclient was moved. i'll have a look at that soon. probably it is just a matter of using an appropriate [declare]. ok, with [import maxlib] i could make the netclient object. but the rest of the problem is still there: when i open the creator an empty patch pops up called pd cr.singletons and creator doesn't work properly. i think it is probably that i need to declare the include direcory.. i'll give it a try and report my findings. roman, i don't wanna distract you --- good luck with your presentation! it's not so urgent. winterly greetings from australia max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem DV Output via Firewire
Hello, I was just looking at the list archives and noticed a thread on this that seemed to end around 2005. I am just wondering if there was any progress on DV Out (pix_dvout?) from gem... Just thought I would ask since there is currently a pix_record thread happening on the list and thought this might be related in a way... Thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles
hello, If we WERE going to use just pd for longer text type processing, what optimization methods would be recommended? Is there a particular font that PD handles better than others? Would it be wise to strip text of backslashes, spaces, commas as im assuming from your post? Can PD grab a random 'line' from a text file so as not to have to load the whole thing? Thanks mark --- Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, wolfgang schwarzenbrunner hat gesagt: // wolfgang schwarzenbrunner wrote: i am working on a little project in which websites are going to be parsed. well. i thought this might be a nice thing using the regex object from zexy... the only problem i am facing right now is that i have no idea how i could get a html file on my harddisk using pd (something like a http browsing object)... any suggestions? Yep: Don't use Pd for text processing. Pd is good at many things, but it's not good at parsing and modifying larger amounts of text. AFAIK there still is no garbage collection for unused symbols (Pd's strings), it's overcomplicated to deal with certain characters (backslashes, spaces, commas, ...) when they should not be interpreted by Pd etc. What I would recommend is to do your text processing in a different language. Many (scripting) languages that are great with text can be used inside of Pd: Lua, Python, Java, Scheme, etc. Most of these also include or can be extended easily with nice web browsing tools (CURL, Socket, system(wget) ...). In the end you can do both the browsing and all processing in one place and then only need to feed the results over to Pd in a format, Pd can handle with more elegance than it can handle large amounts of text. Of course it depends a bit on how complex your project is, so you may get away with pure Pd as well, but IMO it's a better use of Pd to externalize the text processing to a language better suited. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Number of Loaded Lines in a Text File Read by MSGFILE
Hello, Maybe I am missing something. I want to print the number of lines in a text file loaded into 'msgfile' OR equivalent object. The object seems to do everything but that!! Am i missing something right in front of me? I just need to know the number of lines in a text file that i load... Thanks!!! BTW 'msgfile-help.pd' is missing in my pd-extended recent auto-build... cheers mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles
hey thanks on the tip, i will try that out... html know about fonts, it's all pure ascii text. oh yes i know this. i meant an optimized font for when the text is in pd/gem window... i guess it wouldn't really matter though as long as the loaded font wasn't too complicated. Thanks! mark --- Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have pd extended you can use the mrpeach/tcpclient to retrieve the page and the mrpeach/str object to snip the data on any character or position. You have to enter things like spaces and backslashes as their decimal equivalent though. An important pair is 10 13 for CR LF. It works better if you are accessing simple web pages, especially if you are printing out the characters as they arrive. Neither http or html know about fonts, it's all pure ascii text. Martin From: mark edward grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:34:18 -0700 (PDT) hello, If we WERE going to use just pd for longer text type processing, what optimization methods would be recommended? Is there a particular font that PD handles better than others? Would it be wise to strip text of backslashes, spaces, commas as im assuming from your post? Can PD grab a random 'line' from a text file so as not to have to load the whole thing? Thanks mark --- Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, wolfgang schwarzenbrunner hat gesagt: // wolfgang schwarzenbrunner wrote: i am working on a little project in which websites are going to be parsed. well. i thought this might be a nice thing using the regex object from zexy... the only problem i am facing right now is that i have no idea how i could get a html file on my harddisk using pd (something like a http browsing object)... any suggestions? Yep: Don't use Pd for text processing. Pd is good at many things, but it's not good at parsing and modifying larger amounts of text. AFAIK there still is no garbage collection for unused symbols (Pd's strings), it's overcomplicated to deal with certain characters (backslashes, spaces, commas, ...) when they should not be interpreted by Pd etc. What I would recommend is to do your text processing in a different language. Many (scripting) languages that are great with text can be used inside of Pd: Lua, Python, Java, Scheme, etc. Most of these also include or can be extended easily with nice web browsing tools (CURL, Socket, system(wget) ...). In the end you can do both the browsing and all processing in one place and then only need to feed the results over to Pd in a format, Pd can handle with more elegance than it can handle large amounts of text. Of course it depends a bit on how complex your project is, so you may get away with pure Pd as well, but IMO it's a better use of Pd to externalize the text processing to a language better suited. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Number of Loaded Lines in a Text File Read by MSGFILE
Awesome! I must have missed that in the non-existent help file i had to search the internet for :) also i was a little confused because the help file i found uses [when( in the comments and [where( as a message... all is good though!! so thanks for this marius! [end, where( actually only gave me a bang message from the second outlet but what worked for me was [end, skip -1, where( thanks again! cheers mark --- marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with msgfile, you should be able to send [end, where( to the messagefile, which first jumps to the end end then tells you the current position (line number). the first line is 0, so you have to add 1 to the number to get the number of lines. marius. mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Maybe I am missing something. I want to print the number of lines in a text file loaded into 'msgfile' OR equivalent object. The object seems to do everything but that!! Am i missing something right in front of me? I just need to know the number of lines in a text file that i load... Thanks!!! BTW 'msgfile-help.pd' is missing in my pd-extended recent auto-build... cheers mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] BBcut for pd?
... i remember seeing a patch once that did something similar if im not mistaken. OR maybe it was an object... studder~? maybe something in max? anyway... this IS really cool. i had lots of fun with it in ableton live last night! thanks for the pointer! mark --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no i did not know! Very nice port of BBCUT. has anyone tried it inside pd with VST? pp Martin . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as you might know, theres a vst/au port called livecut: http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/2005/07/livecut.php On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Nicolas Montgermont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BBcut library is a collection of tools to cut sounds into slices and rearrange them with some random and repeat rules. I don't know any pd port. n Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I don't think most of us are SuperCollider users, so I think you'll have better luck if you describe what BBCut does. .hc On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List! Hope everyone is well, I am interested in incorporating something similar to BBCut, by Nick Collins into my pd audio suite and use it quite a bit in Supercollider. I know there is a opcode in Csound, but i was wondering if anyone has taken a crack at a BBCut object (s) yet for pure D. cheers~ Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list kill your television ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Retrieving Text form a URL | Webpage
Hello, Didn't find any results on search... Do we know a way to retrieve/grab Text from a webpage/url in PD... ... then write it to a textfile maybe? or insert into a list. Thanks! mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Retrieving Text form a URL | Webpage
Beautiful! Thanks so much! i'll search that archives for that. i looked at mr.peach but must have overlooked the help patch so thanks for the pointer! mark --- IOhannes m zmölnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Didn't find any results on search... Do we know a way to retrieve/grab Text from a webpage/url in PD... ... then write it to a textfile maybe? or insert into a list. you don't have to use Pd, you could just do wget [URL] myfile.txt you can run this from within Pd (using [shell]) or create a small server that communicates with Pd using netsend/netreceive (or whatever you prefer). i have posted examples on how to the latter on this list before (so see the archives). i have used this method extensively to display websites within Pd (e.g. for http://umlaeute.mur.at/projects/surf-the-net) an alternative method is to use the [tcpclient] object of mrpeach; the help-patch even shows how to access a website. fgmasdr IOhannes mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Retrieving Text form a URL | Webpage
hmmm ... [shell] crashes pd when it bangs DONE pd-0.40.3-extended-20080222 osx 10.5.2 intel 2.16 ghz ...although i can hit ignore and continue working. pretty weird. --- IOhannes m zmölnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark edward grimm wrote: Hello, Didn't find any results on search... Do we know a way to retrieve/grab Text from a webpage/url in PD... ... then write it to a textfile maybe? or insert into a list. you don't have to use Pd, you could just do wget [URL] myfile.txt you can run this from within Pd (using [shell]) or create a small server that communicates with Pd using netsend/netreceive (or whatever you prefer). i have posted examples on how to the latter on this list before (so see the archives). i have used this method extensively to display websites within Pd (e.g. for http://umlaeute.mur.at/projects/surf-the-net) an alternative method is to use the [tcpclient] object of mrpeach; the help-patch even shows how to access a website. fgmasdr IOhannes mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 315.378.2136 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wii remote controller and Mac OS X
hi Luigi, thanks for the tip on OSculator. im just looking at it now. you have it communicating with pd? i just tried it out with nodebox real quick and seems to works fine... i also go the wiitar connecting to pd with a 3rd party app called wiitar... that works fairly decent too! i haven't got the wii working with darwiiremoteOSC yet but seems pretty straight forward. i would agree it would be nice to have a pd external (aka.wiiremote) but for now these solutions seem adequateeh? i just got these two remotes in the mail from ebay yesterday so i have not messed with them too much other than making sure they worked... maybe it would be nice to have a wiki page or something will all wiimote related pd patches/vids/experiments/examples? ...lots of cool possibilities as a controller i see!! BTW what else are people doing with the wiimote? i see its interfaced with max/msp, and processing also. Cheers mark --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is the Progress with the wiiremote external ??? (especially Mac- Intel) I have played around with OSculator and its really working fine. Anybody else playing around with the Wii ??? Happy Easter Luigi --- Luigi Rensinghoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 585.509.8703 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] autotune / pitch correction
Hi Carlos, the code is a bit messy... nevertheless it works! No problem! Thanks for the patch. Looks great! If you introduce any improvement, please let me know! Yes! I will definitely give it a shot this week! http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna ..really interesting. i had never heard of this before. ill check the demo out! Thanks for the link and patch! Cheers mark --- Carlos E. Hidalgo Nieto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Edward Grimm wrote: i am just wondering it anyone has implemented an 'autotune' / pitch correction type patch in PD for audio input Hello Mark and list! A few months ago I made an approach to an automatic pitch correction patch, like the autotune. I'm just a newbie, so I'm afraid the code is a bit messy... nevertheless it works! In the attached patch you can select the 'scale' of notes, as you said, and set a coefficient for the level of correction. A coefficient of 100 makes the 'cher effect', and with 50 - 60 you get a natural voice. If you introduce any improvement, please let me know! By the way, related to pitch detection and correction, i'm very impressed with this: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna It's a polyphonic pitch detection and correction software... wow! Does anyone in the list know something about the secret behind this kind of magic??? ;-) Carlos ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 585.509.8703 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] autotune / pitch correction
hello list, i am just wondering it anyone has implemented an 'autotune' / pitch correction type patch in PD for audio input - not unlike the antares autotune hardware/plugs ...and if so, if they would not mind sharing an example? it would be: - fiddle~ to recognize audio pitch (to the best of its ability) - check it against a 'scales' database (the 'scales' sub-patches in 'xyZee' come to mind off the top of my head. - use pitch shifting to shift audio input to closest note on chosen scale. ...for simplicity's sake am i correct in the basics? i could give it a shot myself but examples would be killer!!! Thanks mark ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD Server
i made a couple of tutorial once. probably way out of date though.buy might help you get started: http://megrimm.net/entry/41/howto_run_pd_patches_from_ubun/bits#body http://megrimm.net/entry/44/howto_run_a_puredata_pd_patch_/bits#body --- Agent Engram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well you can use the pd objects, netsend and netrecieve i think they even have a simple chat server using netserver implementation in there. I have written a Java server that works in conjunction with the netclient object. the reason i am doing that is because i can write a multithreaded server. basically you need to know a little bit about sockets to make it work. agent_engram On Jan 7, 2008 2:19 PM, Ricardo Brazileiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi people.. I have one question... how i can make a PD Server using Linux? I would like start projects for interactive installations and start others ideas using PD. grettings -- Ricardo Brazileiro Linux User: #452427 http://rbrazileiro.wordpress.com http://estudiolivre.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- --- i am an agent implanted into your unconscious when you abducted by the travelers. look for signs of me in your life. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | art foundations | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 585.509.8703 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Holiday Demo Album made with PD
Well not really a holiday album, just a demo I was passing out to some friends this year as a present. Just thought I would share! All accomplished with Pd with much help from the netpd patches... 66mb zip mp3s HERE: http://mpc2059.com/audio/lps/machinic_demo/mpc2059_machinic_demo.zip Cheers mark mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | art foundations | tech consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 585.509.8703 __ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
