[PD] GEM - The Relationship Between [translate] and [rectangle]?

2010-07-21 Thread J bz
Hey again,

So,

I have my 3 avi's with 3 seperate [gemheads] which I can now move around the
[gemwin].  Cool.

Could someone enlighten me towards the relationships between [translate] and
[rectangle] please?

I would like to keep the original aspect ratios for the 3 avi's.  Avi 1 is
an odd shape  - w432 h768 - (it's approximately half of my laptop desktop
recorded with RecordMyDesktop) and avi 23 are recorded off bog-standard
camera's, so are 320x240. The larger file is on the left of my gemwindow
with the 2 other avi's to the right, one above the other.  I have added the
widths of film 1 and film 2 with little borders which gives [dimen 762
768(.  I can move the files around and get an approximate fit moving between
each [translate] and [rectangle] but I get the feeling there is a more
rigorous approach.

Apologies in advance if I have missed something in the helpfiles or various
tutorials but I can't seem to find the info I'm looking for.

Best wishes,

Julian
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Re: [PD] GEM - The Relationship Between [translate] and [rectangle]?

2010-07-21 Thread Max
pix_film does output the dimensions of the movie in pixels when a movie is 
loaded. Assuming that the movie is in square pixels (which is the case if you 
are using screenshots and webcam movies) this allows you with a couple of 
objects to automatically scale the rectangle it is textured to to fit the right 
aspect ratio.

m.

Am 21.07.2010 um 19:25 schrieb J bz:

 Hey again,
  
 So,
  
 I have my 3 avi's with 3 seperate [gemheads] which I can now move around the 
 [gemwin].  Cool.
  
 Could someone enlighten me towards the relationships between [translate] and 
 [rectangle] please?
  
 I would like to keep the original aspect ratios for the 3 avi's.  Avi 1 is an 
 odd shape  - w432 h768 - (it's approximately half of my laptop desktop 
 recorded with RecordMyDesktop) and avi 23 are recorded off bog-standard 
 camera's, so are 320x240. The larger file is on the left of my gemwindow with 
 the 2 other avi's to the right, one above the other.  I have added the widths 
 of film 1 and film 2 with little borders which gives [dimen 762 768(.  I can 
 move the files around and get an approximate fit moving between each 
 [translate] and [rectangle] but I get the feeling there is a more rigorous 
 approach.
  
 Apologies in advance if I have missed something in the helpfiles or various 
 tutorials but I can't seem to find the info I'm looking for.
  
 Best wishes,
  
 Julian
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Re: [PD] GEM - The Relationship Between [translate] and [rectangle]?

2010-07-21 Thread J bz
Hi Max,

Cheers for the quick response.

tbh, pix_film is the reason I know the pixel dimensions already:)

Would you mind explaining in a little more detail - which objects and how?

I am unclear on the relationship, say, between [rectangle 3 2] and 320x240
pixels, and again how that corresponds to [translate] and the numbers I am
putting in the inlets 2 and 3 of translate.  For example when I increase the
2nd inlet of translate (magnification? sorry I'm not in front of pd atm) my
2nd avi movie moves in a north easterly direction from within the gemwin and
I don't understand why?

Kind regards,

Jb

On 21 July 2010 18:37, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:

 pix_film does output the dimensions of the movie in pixels when a movie is
 loaded. Assuming that the movie is in square pixels (which is the case if
 you are using screenshots and webcam movies) this allows you with a couple
 of objects to automatically scale the rectangle it is textured to to fit the
 right aspect ratio.

 m.

 Am 21.07.2010 um 19:25 schrieb J bz:

  Hey again,
 
  So,
 
  I have my 3 avi's with 3 seperate [gemheads] which I can now move around
 the [gemwin].  Cool.
 
  Could someone enlighten me towards the relationships between [translate]
 and [rectangle] please?
 
  I would like to keep the original aspect ratios for the 3 avi's.  Avi 1
 is an odd shape  - w432 h768 - (it's approximately half of my laptop desktop
 recorded with RecordMyDesktop) and avi 23 are recorded off bog-standard
 camera's, so are 320x240. The larger file is on the left of my gemwindow
 with the 2 other avi's to the right, one above the other.  I have added the
 widths of film 1 and film 2 with little borders which gives [dimen 762 768(.
  I can move the files around and get an approximate fit moving between each
 [translate] and [rectangle] but I get the feeling there is a more rigorous
 approach.
 
  Apologies in advance if I have missed something in the helpfiles or
 various tutorials but I can't seem to find the info I'm looking for.
 
  Best wishes,
 
  Julian
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Re: [PD] GEM - The Relationship Between [translate] and [rectangle]?

2010-07-21 Thread Max
dimension x divided by deimension y gives you the aspect ratio. see attached 
patch:



autoscale_ratio_image_or_video.pd
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m.



Am 21.07.2010 um 21:51 schrieb J bz:

 Hi Max,
 
 Cheers for the quick response.
 
 tbh, pix_film is the reason I know the pixel dimensions already:)
 
 Would you mind explaining in a little more detail - which objects and how?
 
 I am unclear on the relationship, say, between [rectangle 3 2] and 320x240 
 pixels, and again how that corresponds to [translate] and the numbers I am 
 putting in the inlets 2 and 3 of translate.  For example when I increase the 
 2nd inlet of translate (magnification? sorry I'm not in front of pd atm) my 
 2nd avi movie moves in a north easterly direction from within the gemwin and 
 I don't understand why?
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Jb
 
 On 21 July 2010 18:37, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:
 pix_film does output the dimensions of the movie in pixels when a movie is 
 loaded. Assuming that the movie is in square pixels (which is the case if you 
 are using screenshots and webcam movies) this allows you with a couple of 
 objects to automatically scale the rectangle it is textured to to fit the 
 right aspect ratio.
 
 m.
 
 Am 21.07.2010 um 19:25 schrieb J bz:
 
  Hey again,
 
  So,
 
  I have my 3 avi's with 3 seperate [gemheads] which I can now move around 
  the [gemwin].  Cool.
 
  Could someone enlighten me towards the relationships between [translate] 
  and [rectangle] please?
 
  I would like to keep the original aspect ratios for the 3 avi's.  Avi 1 is 
  an odd shape  - w432 h768 - (it's approximately half of my laptop desktop 
  recorded with RecordMyDesktop) and avi 23 are recorded off bog-standard 
  camera's, so are 320x240. The larger file is on the left of my gemwindow 
  with the 2 other avi's to the right, one above the other.  I have added the 
  widths of film 1 and film 2 with little borders which gives [dimen 762 
  768(.  I can move the files around and get an approximate fit moving 
  between each [translate] and [rectangle] but I get the feeling there is a 
  more rigorous approach.
 
  Apologies in advance if I have missed something in the helpfiles or various 
  tutorials but I can't seem to find the info I'm looking for.
 
  Best wishes,
 
  Julian
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Re: [PD] GEM - The Relationship Between [translate] and [rectangle]?

2010-07-21 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hi Julian,
sorry if you already did it, but you might be interested in surfing through
the Help browser (ctrl+b)  manuals  2.Image/
That includes all you need to know to solve these kind of problems.

However [translate] moves the [rectangle] on X, Y and Z axis.
Your movie is texturized onto the [rectangle].
Therefore the dimension of the rectangle represent the ratio of your movie.

Divide the width (in pixel) of your movie by its height to get the exact
ratio, then set properly [rectangle] dimension.

Say you have a movie 800x600px.

800 / 600 = 1.333

(we assume 3 is your maximum height for [rectangle])

3 * 1.333 = 4

your ratio = 4/3
therefore what you need is [rectangle 4 3]

this is just a rough solution, but it might help you understanding the
issue.

best,

M




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 Hey again,

 So,

 I have my 3 avi's with 3 seperate [gemheads] which I can now move around
 the
 [gemwin].  Cool.

 Could someone enlighten me towards the relationships between [translate]
 and
 [rectangle] please?

 I would like to keep the original aspect ratios for the 3 avi's.  Avi 1 is
 an odd shape  - w432 h768 - (it's approximately half of my laptop desktop
 recorded with RecordMyDesktop) and avi 23 are recorded off bog-standard
 camera's, so are 320x240. The larger file is on the left of my gemwindow
 with the 2 other avi's to the right, one above the other.  I have added the
 widths of film 1 and film 2 with little borders which gives [dimen 762
 768(.  I can move the files around and get an approximate fit moving
 between
 each [translate] and [rectangle] but I get the feeling there is a more
 rigorous approach.

 Apologies in advance if I have missed something in the helpfiles or various
 tutorials but I can't seem to find the info I'm looking for.

 Best wishes,

 Julian



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