Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-02-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-02 à 22:12:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Pd is «half» of a Cocoa app, because on one hand Tcl/Tk on OSX is a 
portability layer over Cocoa, but on the other hand doesn't follow 
every convention specified by Cocoa, and isn't designed to let a Tcl/Tk 
app access every existing Cocoa feature either.


Tk/Cocoa is Cocoa, Pd-extended is still using Tk/Carbon.  Hopefully we 
can switch to Tk/Cocoa in 0.44.


Right. What I say only applies if replacing the word Cocoa by the word 
Carbon. In any case, making Tk buttons and sliders on either Tk/Carbon or 
Tk/Cocoa gives round Aqua buttons  sliders using Apple's code (no 
imitation), but people using Tk are often not trying to follow Apple's UI 
guidelines, except maybe the most important ones.


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-02-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

 Le 2012-02-01 à 21:21:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
 
 Cocoa is what Apple calls their native GUI toolkit.  Pd uses Tcl/Tk for the 
 GUI, so its not Cocoa.  Apple Mail is definitely Cocoa, as are basically all 
 of the apps that Apple includes.  Something like Firefox is not a Cocoa app.
 
 Pd is «half» of a Cocoa app, because on one hand Tcl/Tk on OSX is a 
 portability layer over Cocoa, but on the other hand doesn't follow every 
 convention specified by Cocoa, and isn't designed to let a Tcl/Tk app access 
 every existing Cocoa feature either.

Tk/Cocoa is Cocoa, Pd-extended is still using Tk/Carbon.  Hopefully we can 
switch to Tk/Cocoa in 0.44.

.hc




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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-02-01 Thread Joson Android
now i used the build of first of feb. osx pd-extended105x86

still the same:

 For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try 
 to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. 

it would be cool to switch, but i can live with both: pd in German (my mother 
tongue), or my operating system in English..

best wishes,

jo

On 30.01.2012, at 20:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 
 Did you use today's or yesterday's build?
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joson Android wrote:
 
 For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try 
 to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. 
 
 best wishes,
 
 jo
 
 
 On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:
 Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to 
 English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
 properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed 
 this feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple 
 languages are implemented in Pd(-ext).
 
 I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages.  
 Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.
 
 Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded 
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work 
 for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode it 
 tells me that it has been corrupted.
 replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any 
 more.
 
 Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is.  I 
 checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in 
 the app with the attached one.
 
 .hc
 Info.plist
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Are you sure this is a problem with Pd?  Try other apps and see what happens 
there.  For me the Language Switcher launches the wrong Pd, but that's a bug in 
that app, I think.  I just tried Language Switcher on some other apps, it 
doesn't seem to like non-Cocoa apps.  I recommend contacting the Language 
Switcher developer about that.

.hc

On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Joson Android wrote:

 now i used the build of first of feb. osx pd-extended105x86
 
 still the same:
 
 For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try 
 to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. 
 
 it would be cool to switch, but i can live with both: pd in German (my mother 
 tongue), or my operating system in English..
 
 best wishes,
 
 jo
 
 On 30.01.2012, at 20:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 Did you use today's or yesterday's build?
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joson Android wrote:
 
 For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try 
 to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. 
 
 best wishes,
 
 jo
 
 
 On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:
 Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to 
 English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through 
 the properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but 
 removed this feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple 
 languages are implemented in Pd(-ext).
 
 I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages. 
  Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.
 
 Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded 
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work 
 for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode 
 it tells me that it has been corrupted.
 replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any 
 more.
 
 Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is.  I 
 checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in 
 the app with the attached one.
 
 .hc
 Info.plist
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-02-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Cocoa is what Apple calls their native GUI toolkit.  Pd uses Tcl/Tk for
the GUI, so its not Cocoa.  Apple Mail is definitely Cocoa, as are
basically all of the apps that Apple includes.  Something like Firefox
is not a Cocoa app.

.hc

On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 18:14 +0100, Joson Android wrote:
 I'm not sure whether it is a problem with Pd at all. With other apps it works 
 though, tested it with mail. I don't understand the cocoa hint. But as i 
 said, its not my biggest concern to get it running, so please don't you put 
 too much brain in it either..
 
 best,
 
 jo
 
 
 On 01.02.2012, at 18:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  
  Are you sure this is a problem with Pd?  Try other apps and see what 
  happens there.  For me the Language Switcher launches the wrong Pd, but 
  that's a bug in that app, I think.  I just tried Language Switcher on some 
  other apps, it doesn't seem to like non-Cocoa apps.  I recommend contacting 
  the Language Switcher developer about that.
  
  .hc
  
  On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Joson Android wrote:
  
  now i used the build of first of feb. osx pd-extended105x86
  
  still the same:
  
  For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i 
  try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd 
  without it. 
  
  it would be cool to switch, but i can live with both: pd in German (my 
  mother tongue), or my operating system in English..
  
  best wishes,
  
  jo
  
  On 30.01.2012, at 20:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  
  
  Did you use today's or yesterday's build?
  
  .hc
  
  On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joson Android wrote:
  
  For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i 
  try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd 
  without it. 
  
  best wishes,
  
  jo
  
  
  On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  
  
  On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote:
  
  Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
  On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:
  Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
  One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to 
  English? 
  
  MacOSX10.6.7
  
  Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through 
  the properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but 
  removed this feature with 10.6
  
  Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
  http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
  however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only 
  in english.
  This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple 
  languages are implemented in Pd(-ext).
  
  I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 
  languages.  Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.
  
  Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded 
  Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't 
  work for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in 
  xcode it tells me that it has been corrupted.
  replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable 
  any more.
  
  Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is. 
   I checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the 
  Info.plist in the app with the attached one.
  
  .hc
  Info.plist
  
  
  
  
  If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-02-01 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-02-01 à 21:21:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

Cocoa is what Apple calls their native GUI toolkit.  Pd uses Tcl/Tk for 
the GUI, so its not Cocoa.  Apple Mail is definitely Cocoa, as are 
basically all of the apps that Apple includes.  Something like Firefox 
is not a Cocoa app.


Pd is «half» of a Cocoa app, because on one hand Tcl/Tk on OSX is a 
portability layer over Cocoa, but on the other hand doesn't follow every 
convention specified by Cocoa, and isn't designed to let a Tcl/Tk app 
access every existing Cocoa feature either.


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-30 Thread Joson Android
Thanks! That sounds useful for me, I will try that!

best wishes,

Jo

On 27.01.2012, at 17:53, Max wrote:

 
 Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
 properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this 
 feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple languages 
 are implemented in Pd(-ext).
 
 m.
 


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-30 Thread Joson Android
For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to 
open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. 

best wishes,

jo


On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 
 On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:
 Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
 properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this 
 feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple 
 languages are implemented in Pd(-ext).
 
 I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages.  
 Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.
 
 Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded 
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work for 
 me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode it tells 
 me that it has been corrupted.
 replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any 
 more.
 
 Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is.  I 
 checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in the 
 app with the attached one.
 
 .hc
 Info.plist
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Did you use today's or yesterday's build?

.hc

On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joson Android wrote:

 For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try 
 to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. 
 
 best wishes,
 
 jo
 
 
 On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:
 Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
 properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed 
 this feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple 
 languages are implemented in Pd(-ext).
 
 I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages.  
 Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.
 
 Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded 
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work for 
 me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode it 
 tells me that it has been corrupted.
 replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any 
 more.
 
 Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is.  I 
 checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in 
 the app with the attached one.
 
 .hc
 Info.plist
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-29 Thread Max
Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:
 Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
 properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this 
 feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple 
 languages are implemented in Pd(-ext).
 
 I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages.  Try 
 it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.

Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg 
and unfortunately it doesn't work for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try 
to open the plist in xcode it tells me that it has been corrupted.
replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any more.

m.

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote:

 Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:
 Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
 properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this 
 feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple 
 languages are implemented in Pd(-ext).
 
 I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages.  
 Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.
 
 Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg 
 and unfortunately it doesn't work for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i 
 try to open the plist in xcode it tells me that it has been corrupted.
 replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any 
 more.

Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is.  I 
checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in the 
app with the attached one.

.hc


Info.plist
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-29 Thread Max
Am 29.01.2012 um 20:38 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote:
 Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
 properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this 
 feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple 
 languages are implemented in Pd(-ext).
 
 I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages.  
 Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.
 
 Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded 
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work for 
 me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode it tells 
 me that it has been corrupted.
 replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any 
 more.
 
 Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is.  I 
 checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in the 
 app with the attached one.
 
 .hc
 Info.plist

excellent. that works!  Language Switcher launches a different (the .pd file 
association) Pd instance on my system though. I guess it would work if only one 
Pd would be there.

m.  

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote:

 
 Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
 properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this 
 feature with 10.6
 
 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
 http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
 however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in 
 english.
 This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple languages 
 are implemented in Pd(-ext).

I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages.  Try 
it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you.

.hc



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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-27 Thread Max

Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7

Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the 
properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this 
feature with 10.6

Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that:
http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/
however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in english.
This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple languages 
are implemented in Pd(-ext).

m.



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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-24 Thread Joson Android
I got 0.43.1-extended first time working today. I love it!!! Thank you! Spend 
all day testing new cool features (instead of working).

One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 

MacOSX10.6.7


Am 23.01.2012 um 18:13 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:

 
 Ok, Mac OS X 32-bit builds (i.e. with working Gem, hid, etc) are back:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-23/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120123-macosx105-i386.dmg
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 
 appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
 of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.
 
 Startup Log:
 --
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
 can't load startup library'!
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
 Referenced from:
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
 Expected in: dynamic lookup
 
 Gem: can't load library
 
 -
 
 scott
 
 
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 wrote:
 
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 included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it works 
 for you:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I'm guessing you are using a German localization for your computer.  
Pd-extended just follows that.  If you rank English above German, Pd-extended 
should be in English.

.hc

On Jan 24, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Joson Android wrote:

 I got 0.43.1-extended first time working today. I love it!!! Thank you! Spend 
 all day testing new cool features (instead of working).
 
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 
 
 MacOSX10.6.7
 
 
 Am 23.01.2012 um 18:13 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
 
 
 Ok, Mac OS X 32-bit builds (i.e. with working Gem, hid, etc) are back:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-23/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120123-macosx105-i386.dmg
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 
 appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
 of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.
 
 Startup Log:
 --
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
 can't load startup library'!
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
 Referenced from:
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
 Expected in: dynamic lookup
 
 Gem: can't load library
 
 -
 
 scott
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:
 
 On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making 
 some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've 
 included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it 
 works for you:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-24 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2012-01-24 à 15:37:00, Joson Android a écrit :


One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English?


Just enjoy it being in German. That will fix the problem.

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-24 Thread Max
Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android:
 One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? 

If you want your computer to be in english, then go to the system preferences 
and chang that there.

If you'd like to contribute to the german Pd translation edit it here:
https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/l/de/


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I just committed a fix to every occurance of this problem that I know
of.  Please try tomorrow's build and let me know if it fixes it or not.

.hc

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012, at 12:01, olsen wrote:
 oups sorry the row.pd abstraction was the wrong one - attached the
 correct one. though the behavior should be the same...
 
 On 01/17/2012 06:55 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  Ah yes, this bug is still there.  I can't find a reliable way to reproduce 
  this and it really rarely happens to me.  If anyone has a patch that can 
  make this happen, please send it my way!
 
  .hc
 
  On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:44 AM, olsen wrote:
 
  ej hans
 
  that's good news! I did some testing on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04  
  there're some nice features indeed!
 
  one buggy thing I would like to report: opening a patch in pd and by 
  switching to another workspace and then coming back to the pd-workspace 
  once in a while the chords between the boxes disappear  the console 
  outputs the following:
 
  (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x8
  while executing
  .x8
  (uplevel body line 505)
  invoked from within
  uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name 
  5beea0.c
  while executing
  5beea0.c create rectangle 288 137 295 139 -fill $msg_nlet -outline 
  $msg_cord -tags [list .x85beea0.t86145b8i6 inlet]
  (uplevel body line 1)
  invoked from within
  uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd
 
  though if I switch back n'forth somehow the chords appear again.
  let me know if further infos needed!
 
  so long
  best
  ø
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 01/16/2012 09:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  I just pushed a bunch of updates, so I think this build should be at 
  least beta quality. Please test and let me know!
 
  http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-16/
 
  The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is still offline, but I'll get it 
  back on tomorrow, finally.
 
  .hc
 
  On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
  The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.
 
  .hc
 
  On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 
  appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
  of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.
 
  Startup Log:
  --
 
  /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
  can't load startup library'!
 
  /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
  dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
  10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
  Referenced from:
  /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
  Expected in: dynamic lookup
 
  Gem: can't load library
 
  -
 
  scott
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at  
   wrote:
 
  On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work 
  making some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), 
  and I've included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back 
  how it works for you:
 
  http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ok, Mac OS X 32-bit builds (i.e. with working Gem, hid, etc) are back:

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-23/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120123-macosx105-i386.dmg

.hc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 
 The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 
 appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
 of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.
 
 Startup Log:
 --
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
 can't load startup library'!
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
 Referenced from:
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
 Expected in: dynamic lookup
 
 Gem: can't load library
 
 -
 
 scott
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:
 
 On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making 
 some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've 
 included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it works 
 for you:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Hey Billy,

Please keep the list cc'ed on this thread. There are many people who can answer 
this qeustion, and other can benefit from reading it.

Installing the Pd-extended 0.43 should not touch your vanilla packages from 
Ubuntu.  You can have both installed at the same time.  You will need to set 
which one should start when you type 'pd', but you can always use 'puredata' or 
'pd-extended' commands.

.hc


On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Billy Stiltner wrote:

 is there a way to install /Pd-0.43.1-
 extended with ubuntu software center on natty without messing up vanilla?
 
 On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:
 
 Ok, Mac OS X 32-bit builds (i.e. with working Gem, hid, etc) are back:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-23/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120123-macosx105-i386.dmg
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
  The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.
 
  .hc
 
  On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 
  appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
  of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.
 
  Startup Log:
  --
 
  /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
  can't load startup library'!
 
  /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
  dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
  10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
  Referenced from:
  /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
  Expected in: dynamic lookup
 
  Gem: can't load library
 
  -
 
  scott
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
  wrote:
 
  On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making 
  some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've 
  included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it 
  works for you:
 
  http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
 
  .hc
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-18 Thread olsen

Hi Hans

this happens to me with the attached led-matrix-8x8-example.pd patch when opening the [pd eingabenfeld] subpatch and 
then switching the desktops.


hth
ø



On 01/17/2012 06:55 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Ah yes, this bug is still there.  I can't find a reliable way to reproduce this 
and it really rarely happens to me.  If anyone has a patch that can make this 
happen, please send it my way!

.hc

On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:44 AM, olsen wrote:


ej hans

that's good news! I did some testing on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04  there're 
some nice features indeed!

one buggy thing I would like to report: opening a patch in pd and by switching to 
another workspace and then coming back to the pd-workspace once in a while the 
chords between the boxes disappear  the console outputs the following:

(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x8
while executing
.x8
(uplevel body line 505)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name 
5beea0.c
while executing
5beea0.c create rectangle 288 137 295 139 -fill $msg_nlet -outline $msg_cord -tags 
[list .x85beea0.t86145b8i6 inlet]
(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd

though if I switch back n'forth somehow the chords appear again.
let me know if further infos needed!

so long
best
ø







On 01/16/2012 09:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


I just pushed a bunch of updates, so I think this build should be at least beta 
quality. Please test and let me know!

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-16/

The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is still offline, but I'll get it back 
on tomorrow, finally.

.hc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.

.hc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:


appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.

Startup Log:
--

/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
can't load startup library'!

/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
Referenced from:
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can't load library

-

scott


On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at   wrote:


On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making some 
GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've included 
Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it works for you:

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/

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#X msg 206 473 open 4;
#X msg 206 495 close;
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-17 Thread olsen

ej hans

that's good news! I did some testing on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04  there're 
some nice features indeed!

one buggy thing I would like to report: opening a patch in pd and by switching to another workspace and then coming back 
to the pd-workspace once in a while the chords between the boxes disappear  the console outputs the following:


(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x8
while executing
.x8
(uplevel body line 505)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name 
5beea0.c
while executing
5beea0.c create rectangle 288 137 295 139 -fill $msg_nlet -outline $msg_cord -tags 
[list .x85beea0.t86145b8i6 inlet]
(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd

though if I switch back n'forth somehow the chords appear again.
let me know if further infos needed!

so long
best
ø







On 01/16/2012 09:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


I just pushed a bunch of updates, so I think this build should be at least beta 
quality. Please test and let me know!

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-16/

The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is still offline, but I'll get it back 
on tomorrow, finally.

.hc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.

.hc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:


appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.

Startup Log:
--

/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
can't load startup library'!

/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
Referenced from:
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can't load library

-

scott


On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at  wrote:


On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making some 
GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've included 
Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it works for you:

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Ah yes, this bug is still there.  I can't find a reliable way to reproduce this 
and it really rarely happens to me.  If anyone has a patch that can make this 
happen, please send it my way!

.hc

On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:44 AM, olsen wrote:

 ej hans
 
 that's good news! I did some testing on an up-to-date Ubuntu 11.04  there're 
 some nice features indeed!
 
 one buggy thing I would like to report: opening a patch in pd and by 
 switching to another workspace and then coming back to the pd-workspace once 
 in a while the chords between the boxes disappear  the console outputs the 
 following:
 
 (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name .x8
while executing
 .x8
(uplevel body line 505)
invoked from within
 uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name 
 5beea0.c
while executing
 5beea0.c create rectangle 288 137 295 139 -fill $msg_nlet -outline $msg_cord 
 -tags [list .x85beea0.t86145b8i6 inlet]
(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
 uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd
 
 though if I switch back n'forth somehow the chords appear again.
 let me know if further infos needed!
 
 so long
 best
 ø
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 01/16/2012 09:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 I just pushed a bunch of updates, so I think this build should be at least 
 beta quality. Please test and let me know!
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-16/
 
 The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is still offline, but I'll get it 
 back on tomorrow, finally.
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 
 The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 
 appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
 of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.
 
 Startup Log:
 --
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
 can't load startup library'!
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
 Referenced from:
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
 Expected in: dynamic lookup
 
 Gem: can't load library
 
 -
 
 scott
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at  
 wrote:
 
 On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making 
 some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've 
 included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it 
 works for you:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
 
 .hc
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I just pushed a bunch of updates, so I think this build should be at least beta 
quality. Please test and let me know!

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-01-16/

The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is still offline, but I'll get it back 
on tomorrow, finally.

.hc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 
 The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.
 
 .hc
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 
 appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
 of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.
 
 Startup Log:
 --
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
 can't load startup library'!
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
 Referenced from:
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
 Expected in: dynamic lookup
 
 Gem: can't load library
 
 -
 
 scott
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:
 
 On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making 
 some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've 
 included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it works 
 for you:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
 
 .hc
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-11 Thread Scott R. Looney
appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.

Startup Log:
--

/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
can't load startup library'!

/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
  Referenced from:
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
  Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can't load library

-

scott


On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making 
 some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've 
 included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it works 
 for you:

 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/

 .hc



 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2012-01-11 12:46, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
 of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.

which build? is it 10.6/x86_64?

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

The 32-bit Mac OS X/i386 build machine is offline, but will be back soon.

.hc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Scott R. Looney wrote:

 appears that GEM is temporarily broken on Mac for the build dated 10th
 of Jan 2012, possibly tclpd as well.
 
 Startup Log:
 --
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd:
 can't load startup library'!
 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
 10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
  Referenced from:
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120110.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
  Expected in: dynamic lookup
 
 Gem: can't load library
 
 -
 
 scott
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
 
 On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making 
 some GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've 
 included Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it works 
 for you:
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Jan 11, 2012, at 9:51 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

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 On 2012-01-11 14:15, Scott R. Looney wrote:
 appears to be the 64 build as there is no 32 build for Mac made in 2012.
 
 newbie mistake, sorry - i read somewhere that Gem doesn't yet have a
 version for 64 Bit.
 
 
 btw, i just pushed a few changes to the Gem master branch that allows to
 _load_ Gem on osx/64bit and eventually to use it.
 it also has multiple window support (each [gemwin] controls a separate
 window).
 
 things are not ready for prime time yet. e.g. expect crashes and weird
 side effects.
 
 oh, and there is still no native image acquisition implemented...

I just included those 3 commits into the pd-extended/0.43 branch.

The Mac OS X 10.6/x86_64 build server has gmerlin installed, so Gem could use 
that on 64-bit builds.

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[PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again

2012-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On the road to getting a release out, I've recently done some work making some 
GUI stuff run stably (using apps like XYZee, for example), and I've included 
Miller's GOP fixes.  Give it a whirl and report back how it works for you:

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/

.hc





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