Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

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On 2013-01-08 19:47, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
> ...Don't really get it. Anyway, it seems it came back to normal.
> For some reason it went crazy for some 20 minutes and settled back
> to what it's supposed to be doing. Hope I don't get this in a
> couple of days during a gig I have, crossing fingers..


that's probably the worst that could have happened, as you now will
have an even harder time to fix the problem (but then, it might be ok
for you to wait for some 20minutes during the performance, in order to
get the system back to normal)

> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:43 PM, plutek 
> wrote:
> 
>> From: Alexandros Drymonitis 
>> 
>>> Well, it's full of [trigger]s..

there are already a lot of triggers, true.
but there is still a number of fan out connections.
you should get rid of all of them.

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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

[plutek]

From: Alexandros Drymonitis 

> Well, it's full of [trigger]s..

[OT] -- h, why am i suddenly thinking "HAL, Dave, 2001" etc?
.pltk.

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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

[Alexandros Drymonitis]

Damn! That was for the length of the letter G for [text2d]. Sorry for that.
Still the weird behavior didn't have to do with this, but as I said, it's
now gone.


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant
wrote:

>  You have a receive sharing the same name as in the example patch.
> It's in [pd rect-length] and it's [r G].
> Not a very specific name... :)
>
>
>
> On 08/01/2013 19:18, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
>
>  No, that's not the case. I've actually never really touched the example
> patch. Anyway, my actual worry is why these objects behave the way they do
> in my patch, which is really strange. In order to see what's wrong I opened
> earlier versions of the patch I'm working on (which were using [link] and
> [mass] fine) and they also show the same strange behavior. It looks like a
> bug hit it all of a sudden..
>  I've attached an earlier version which is smaller, if anyone's willing to
> check. Physical modelling is inside [pd object1], [pd object2] etc. inside
> [pd coordinates1]..
>  It used to be that the first time you hit the bangs, the rectangles
> wouldn't behave as expected (in the gem window), but after that everything
> was working pretty stably. Hope someone can help.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:08 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>
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>> On 2013-01-08 19:02, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
>> > Just an addition to this, there's some more weird behavior. When I
>> > have my patch open, with no bangs sent to [link] or [mass], if I
>> > open the 01_basic.pd patch from pmpd's examples, I get "error:
>> > inlet: expected 'float' but got 'bang'", whereas if I open
>> > 01_basics.pd without having my patch open, everything seems to work
>> > fine. I'm not using [send] from [metro] to [link] and [mass], but I
>> > rather connect them with cords. I'm just sending this one as well
>> > in case it's a hint that will help someone who might know what's
>> > wrong.
>>
>> wild guess: you have copied (and modified) the example patch and
>> re-used some of the receiver labels (the first arg to [link]/[mass]),
>> but are now sending other messages to those labels that are not
>> understood by the objects in 01_basics.pd
>>
>> fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

[Pierre-Olivier Boulant]

You have a receive sharing the same name as in the example patch.
It's in [pd rect-length] and it's [r G].
Not a very specific name... :)


On 08/01/2013 19:18, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
No, that's not the case. I've actually never really touched the 
example patch. Anyway, my actual worry is why these objects behave the 
way they do in my patch, which is really strange. In order to see 
what's wrong I opened earlier versions of the patch I'm working on 
(which were using [link] and [mass] fine) and they also show the same 
strange behavior. It looks like a bug hit it all of a sudden..
I've attached an earlier version which is smaller, if anyone's willing 
to check. Physical modelling is inside [pd object1], [pd object2] etc. 
inside [pd coordinates1]..
It used to be that the first time you hit the bangs, the rectangles 
wouldn't behave as expected (in the gem window), but after that 
everything was working pretty stably. Hope someone can help.



On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:08 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig > wrote:


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On 2013-01-08 19:02, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
> Just an addition to this, there's some more weird behavior. When I
> have my patch open, with no bangs sent to [link] or [mass], if I
> open the 01_basic.pd patch from pmpd's examples, I get "error:
> inlet: expected 'float' but got 'bang'", whereas if I open
> 01_basics.pd without having my patch open, everything seems to work
> fine. I'm not using [send] from [metro] to [link] and [mass], but I
> rather connect them with cords. I'm just sending this one as well
> in case it's a hint that will help someone who might know what's
> wrong.

wild guess: you have copied (and modified) the example patch and
re-used some of the receiver labels (the first arg to [link]/[mass]),
but are now sending other messages to those labels that are not
understood by the objects in 01_basics.pd

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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

[Alexandros Drymonitis]

...Don't really get it. Anyway, it seems it came back to normal. For some
reason it went crazy for some 20 minutes and settled back to what it's
supposed to be doing. Hope I don't get this in a couple of days during a
gig I have, crossing fingers..


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:43 PM, plutek  wrote:

> From: Alexandros Drymonitis 
>
> > Well, it's full of [trigger]s..
>
> [OT] -- h, why am i suddenly thinking "HAL, Dave, 2001" etc?
> .pltk.
>
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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

[Alexandros Drymonitis]

Well, it's full of [trigger]s..


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:25 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig  wrote:

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> On 2013-01-08 19:18, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
> > No, that's not the case. I've actually never really touched the
> > example patch. Anyway, my actual worry is why these objects behave
> > the way they do in my patch, which is really strange. In order to
> > see what's wrong I opened earlier versions of the patch I'm working
> > on (which were using [link] and [mass] fine) and they also show the
> > same strange behavior. It looks like a bug hit it all of a
> > sudden.. I've attached an earlier version which is smaller, if
> > anyone's willing to check. Physical modelling is inside [pd
> > object1], [pd object2] etc. inside [pd coordinates1].. It used to
> > be that the first time you hit the bangs, the rectangles wouldn't
> > behave as expected (in the gem window), but after that everything
> > was working pretty stably. Hope someone can help.
> >
>
> i haven't really tried to understand your patch, but you will most
> likely find, that [trigger] will fix most of your problems.
>
> **never ever connect one message outlet to multiple message inlets;
> always use [trigger] in such cases**
>
> fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

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On 2013-01-08 19:18, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
> No, that's not the case. I've actually never really touched the
> example patch. Anyway, my actual worry is why these objects behave
> the way they do in my patch, which is really strange. In order to
> see what's wrong I opened earlier versions of the patch I'm working
> on (which were using [link] and [mass] fine) and they also show the
> same strange behavior. It looks like a bug hit it all of a
> sudden.. I've attached an earlier version which is smaller, if
> anyone's willing to check. Physical modelling is inside [pd
> object1], [pd object2] etc. inside [pd coordinates1].. It used to
> be that the first time you hit the bangs, the rectangles wouldn't
> behave as expected (in the gem window), but after that everything 
> was working pretty stably. Hope someone can help.
> 

i haven't really tried to understand your patch, but you will most
likely find, that [trigger] will fix most of your problems.

**never ever connect one message outlet to multiple message inlets;
always use [trigger] in such cases**

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Re: [PD] Problem with [link] and [mass]

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

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On 2013-01-08 19:02, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
> Just an addition to this, there's some more weird behavior. When I
> have my patch open, with no bangs sent to [link] or [mass], if I
> open the 01_basic.pd patch from pmpd's examples, I get "error:
> inlet: expected 'float' but got 'bang'", whereas if I open
> 01_basics.pd without having my patch open, everything seems to work
> fine. I'm not using [send] from [metro] to [link] and [mass], but I
> rather connect them with cords. I'm just sending this one as well
> in case it's a hint that will help someone who might know what's
> wrong.

wild guess: you have copied (and modified) the example patch and
re-used some of the receiver labels (the first arg to [link]/[mass]),
but are now sending other messages to those labels that are not
understood by the objects in 01_basics.pd

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