Re: [PD] cyclone license
Ok, so Standard Improved BSD, or SIBSD seems to be the answer to my question. Thanks, Jonathan From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 11:02:14 AM Subject: Re: [PD] cyclone license The core of Pd from MIller is BSD. He distributes it with some GPLv2 stuff in it. Pd-extended includes BSD, GPLv2 and GPLv3 code, so its GPLv3 as a whole pacakge. .hc On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I though PD was GNU/PGL On 14 June 2010 11:53, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list A cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are. - Linus Torvalds ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
The difference it seems is that BSD allows proprietary use of the software. Right?? 2010/6/20 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Ok, so Standard Improved BSD, or SIBSD seems to be the answer to my question. Thanks, Jonathan -- *From:* Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at *To:* Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com *Cc:* pd-list@iem.at *Sent:* Mon, June 14, 2010 11:02:14 AM *Subject:* Re: [PD] cyclone license The core of Pd from MIller is BSD. He distributes it with some GPLv2 stuff in it. Pd-extended includes BSD, GPLv2 and GPLv3 code, so its GPLv3 as a whole pacakge. .hc On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I though PD was GNU/PGL On 14 June 2010 11:53, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list A cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are. - Linus Torvalds ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
Well, there is what Miller calls the Standard Improved BSD, or SIBSD, which is generally referred to as the Modified BSD license to differentiate from the original BSD license: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#SoftwareLicenses The Modified BSD allows anyone to use the code in proprietary software. But even with the GPL, the copyright holder can decide to sell individual commercial licenses to a company to use the code in proprietary software (The author of JUCE does this). There's a video somewhere on the web of Richard Stallman being grilled about about this practice, but his explanation of suggesting it to a company to get them to release the code under the GPL in the first place seems reasonable. -Jonathan From: Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at; pd-list@iem.at Sent: Sun, June 20, 2010 11:56:59 AM Subject: Re: [PD] cyclone license The difference it seems is that BSD allows proprietary use of the software. Right?? 2010/6/20 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Ok, so Standard Improved BSD, or SIBSD seems to be the answer to my question. Thanks, Jonathan From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 11:02:14 AM Subject: Re: [PD] cyclone license The core of Pd from MIller is BSD. He distributes it with some GPLv2 stuff in it. Pd-extended includes BSD, GPLv2 and GPLv3 code, so its GPLv3 as a whole pacakge. .hc On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I though PD was GNU/PGL On 14 June 2010 11:53, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list A cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are. - Linus Torvalds ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 05:25:28PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: What is the license for all the cyclone objects? Is it the same license for all of them? One of the source files says to check LICENSE.txt for the distribution, which I think would be GPLv2, but then there's a LICENSE.txt in the miXed folder that looks like the revised BSD license. Cyclone itself has the Pd license, as it was meant to be easy to grab to include in vanilla. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
I though PD was GNU/PGL On 14 June 2010 11:53, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
No problem, it is a common situation :D AFAIK Pd is in some kind of BSD license, i think a modified BSD, but not sure. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I though PD was GNU/PGL On 14 June 2010 11:53, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
What's the actual difference between GNU/GPL and BSD On 14 June 2010 11:59, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: No problem, it is a common situation :D AFAIK Pd is in some kind of BSD license, i think a modified BSD, but not sure. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I though PD was GNU/PGL On 14 June 2010 11:53, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
The core of Pd from MIller is BSD. He distributes it with some GPLv2 stuff in it. Pd-extended includes BSD, GPLv2 and GPLv3 code, so its GPLv3 as a whole pacakge. .hc On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I though PD was GNU/PGL On 14 June 2010 11:53, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list A cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are. - Linus Torvalds ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] cyclone license
What is the license for all the cyclone objects? Is it the same license for all of them? One of the source files says to check LICENSE.txt for the distribution, which I think would be GPLv2, but then there's a LICENSE.txt in the miXed folder that looks like the revised BSD license. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list