Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: Now I can admire the ugly tcl/tk-8.4 GUI, in french, but with curious symbols replacing letters with accent like é or ê probably same problem on OSX... instead of é, do you see à followed by © ? if not, then it's a different problem than usual. P.Boivin noticed it when he tried using my abstractions that use my nbsp (nonbreaking spaces) in IEMGUI labels... they appear as pairs of little squares. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Glad you got it working. Could post a diff -uw of your changes as an attached file? Cygwin is not _WIN32, by the way. It is a POSIX-style API much closer to GNU/Linux than Win32. MinGW is _WIN32 with as much POSIX/UNIX thrown in as possible. .hc On Oct 27, 2009, at 8:56 AM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: hello Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Hmm, I wonder what it is, I got it going on Cygwin when I tried, but haven't tried in a while. I'm having a try right now with a fresh install of cygwin, following your tutorial: http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite first message is configure.ac: not using Gettext maybe it doesn't ring a bell, but then I wonder if Gettext is necessary at the end... I have to resolve this first: s_inter.c:211: sigfun undeclared well, indeed we have something that has changed in s_inter.c that doesn't fit with cygwin: ifndef _WIN32 cygwin is both UNIX and _WIN32, so I've replaced it with ifdef UNIX like it was originaly but line 898 of s_inter.c it comes a bit more complicated: #else /* NOT _WIN32 */ if (WSAStartup(version, nobby)) sys_sockerror(WSAstartup); #endif /* NOT _WIN32 */ the only way I've found to get over is commenting line 898 then it builds until the end, yaha Now, following tutorial: cd src and ./pd an error in startup script is coming: couldn't read file ~/pd-gui-rewrite/src/./bin/pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory did I miss something? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
On Oct 27, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: Now I can admire the ugly tcl/tk-8.4 GUI, in french, but with curious symbols replacing letters with accent like é or ê probably same problem on OSX... instead of é, do you see à followed by © ? if not, then it's a different problem than usual. P.Boivin noticed it when he tried using my abstractions that use my nbsp (nonbreaking spaces) in IEMGUI labels... they appear as pairs of little squares. Cygwin Tcl/Tk is 8.4.1, so I think there are bugs there. With Tcl 8.5 on all platforms, I get proper display of many different alphabets, let alone accents. As for encodings, everything should use UTF-8 these days. GNU/Linux distros and Mac OS X use it as the native format (more or less) while Windows uses something not too far off (UCS-16). .hc Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. - Chris McCormick ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
yes, é is é, É is Ã%#3664; and ê is ê Selon Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: Now I can admire the ugly tcl/tk-8.4 GUI, in french, but with curious symbols replacing letters with accent like é or ê probably same problem on OSX... instead of é, do you see à followed by © ? if not, then it's a different problem than usual. P.Boivin noticed it when he tried using my abstractions that use my nbsp (nonbreaking spaces) in IEMGUI labels... they appear as pairs of little squares. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Cygwin is not _WIN32, by the way. It is a POSIX-style API much closer to GNU/Linux than Win32. MinGW is _WIN32 with as much POSIX/UNIX thrown in as possible. the compiler define both _WIN32 and UNIX preprocessor, so it's troubling... maybe the solution is here? http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-11/msg00522.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:14 PM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
Cygwin is not _WIN32, by the way. It is a POSIX-style API much
closer
to GNU/Linux than Win32. MinGW is _WIN32 with as much POSIX/UNIX
thrown in as possible.
the compiler define both _WIN32 and UNIX preprocessor, so it's
troubling...
maybe the solution is here?
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-11/msg00522.html
My Cygwin gcc does not define _WIN32, trying buiding this:
---
#ifdef _WIN32
#error this is _WIN32
#else
#error this is NOT _WIN32
#endif
int main(void){return 0;}
--
Here's what I get:
p...@windowsxp-i386 /tmp
$ gcc test.c
test.c:4:2: #error this is NOT _WIN32
.hc
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Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
That flag sounds like it enables the WIN32 stuff. But it doesn't seem
to useful for use, since Pd is more conformable in UNIXland than
Win32land.
.hc
On Oct 27, 2009, at 5:38 PM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
what about this:
$ gcc -mwin32 test.c
like specified in this link:
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2001-03/msg00388.html
Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:14 PM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
Cygwin is not _WIN32, by the way. It is a POSIX-style API much
closer
to GNU/Linux than Win32. MinGW is _WIN32 with as much POSIX/UNIX
thrown in as possible.
the compiler define both _WIN32 and UNIX preprocessor, so it's
troubling...
maybe the solution is here?
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-11/msg00522.html
My Cygwin gcc does not define _WIN32, trying buiding this:
---
#ifdef _WIN32
#error this is _WIN32
#else
#error this is NOT _WIN32
#endif
int main(void){return 0;}
--
Here's what I get:
p...@windowsxp-i386 /tmp
$ gcc test.c
test.c:4:2: #error this is NOT _WIN32
.hc
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Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
On Oct 26, 2009, at 7:03 AM, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: hello, I've tried to build on cygwin, but no luck, it didn't work, simply crashes, with --disable-asio --disable-portaudio, without disabling it doesn't build. Hmm, I wonder what it is, I got it going on Cygwin when I tried, but haven't tried in a while. So I tried a nightly build and submitted [openpanel] fix the other day, I'd like to know how to enable tcl plugins, do I have to put a line in pkgIndex.tcl and pd-gui.tcl for each plugin? Because I tried to drag the files from there to there, it has no effect... Any file called *-plugin.tcl in your Pd path will be loaded at start time. Will it be possible to put sophisticated plugins like a (real) pianoroll? Carmen did one a while back, you could make a GUI plugin pianoroll, but I think using mescalinum's tclpd, you could make a nice pianoroll object. .hc All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
with an old version of „the unarchiver“ i get weired permissions problems when unpacking. after updating it unzipps fine. http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/unarchiver.html the built-in BOMArchiveHelper.app works. Am 04.09.2009 um 21:43 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui- rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib \tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui- rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli kill your television ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Am 17.09.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: First off, make sure you have de.msg in your .app, it should be here: Pd-devel.app/Contents/Resources/po/de.msg If de.msg is there, could you send me the results of these commands: in Pd-GU-Rewrite.app or in Pd-devel.app? it's not present in GUI-Rewrite. i've just downloaded it again. max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sep 18, 2009, at 5:19 AM, Max wrote: Am 17.09.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: First off, make sure you have de.msg in your .app, it should be here: Pd-devel.app/Contents/Resources/po/de.msg If de.msg is there, could you send me the results of these commands: in Pd-GU-Rewrite.app or in Pd-devel.app? it's not present in GUI-Rewrite. i've just downloaded it again. max If you are running it from SVN, then it should build de.msg from de.po as part of the make process. If its not in the Pd-devel.app, then it'll be soon in the nightly builds again. .hc Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you. - Richard M. Stallman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
HI. I have some problem here running the Pd-GUI-Rewrite on Fedora 10 with
Planet CCRMA. PD starts for a moment, I can see the main window appearing for a
split second and then it quits.
In the Terminal I get this:
priority 98 scheduling enabled.
sh: ../bin/pd-watchdog: No such file or directory
priority 96 scheduling enabled.
---pd-gui.tcl---
check_for_running_instances 1 5400
Tcl library: /usr/share/tcl8.5
executable: /usr/bin/wish
tclversion: 8.5
patchlevel: 8.5.3
sharedlibextension: .so
-- pdtk_pd_startup
version: Pd version 0.43-0hcs0
audio_apis: {OSS 2} {ALSA 1} {portaudio 4}
midi_apis: {default-MIDI 2} {ALSA-MIDI 1}
sys_font: Courier
sys_fontweight: normal
pd: watchdog process died
DEFAULT FONT: Liberation Mono
WARNING: Font family 'Courier' not found, using default (Liberation Mono)
[r...@xuxu src]# audio OSS
audio ALSA
audio portaudio
midi default-MIDI
midi ALSA-MIDI
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
Load all plugins in /home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup:
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/object_db.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/set_custom_stored_histories.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/addmypatchstomedia.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/file_associations.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/meters_default_on.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/insertintopopup.tcl
-- done with main --
set_menu_new_dir .pdwindow
If anybody has an idea of what might be going on, pleas help.
Adrian
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:25:28 -0700 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
wrote
--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:43 AM
On Sep 10, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
I think this is unrelated to the fact that carriage
returns aren't
saved with the patch; if you're entering lots of
messages followed by
semicolons, you still need to hit enter to get
to the next line, and
that's where the quirky behavior comes in.
-Jonathan
The carriage returns get stripped when saved to the
file. It is annoying for sure.
Yes, but what I mean is if this quirky behavior is easily fixable, it's
still useful even though carriage returns don't get saved with the patch.
Currently, enter is mainly used in a msg box after typing a semicolon,
and when the patch gets loaded a cr is added after the semicolon. So
if a new line would be started after the user types enter (instead of
after the *next* character is entered) it would look like Pd is doing
the right thing in 90% of the cases where you use a carriage return in
a msg box.
Oh, something related to cr's: it's currently difficult to click
the right spot in multi-line comments in pd-ext:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2812603group_id=55736atid=478070
This isn't a problem in current version of pd-vanilla.
-Jonathan
.hc
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Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
How do I make a 32-bit build on my 64-bit system? CFLAGS=-m32 and CXXFLAGS=-m32 don't work, they log the following error: configure:3455: gcc -m32-O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer conftest.c 5 cc1: error: unrecognized command line option -m32-O6 configure:3458: $? = 1 configure:3496: result: configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h. */ I need the 32-bit build so I don't need to recompile my externals for 64-bit which never fully worked so far. Thanks, Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Hans: Is it supposed to use the localisations? because it doesn't. Am 04.09.2009 um 18:45 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: Hans: Is it supposed to use the localisations? because it doesn't. did you try export LANG=xy ? it works here Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Strange, perhaps a bug in Tcl/Tk 8.5.3. I've only been using 8.5.6,
8.5.7, and various 8.4 versions. Try this from the terminal:
wish pd-gui.tcl
.hc
On Sep 17, 2009, at 11:30 AM, adrian.g wrote:
HI. I have some problem here running the Pd-GUI-Rewrite on Fedora 10
with Planet CCRMA. PD starts for a moment, I can see the main window
appearing for a split second and then it quits.
In the Terminal I get this:
priority 98 scheduling enabled.
sh: ../bin/pd-watchdog: No such file or directory
priority 96 scheduling enabled.
---pd-
gui.tcl---
check_for_running_instances 1 5400
Tcl library: /usr/share/tcl8.5
executable: /usr/bin/wish
tclversion: 8.5
patchlevel: 8.5.3
sharedlibextension: .so
-- pdtk_pd_startup
version: Pd version 0.43-0hcs0
audio_apis: {OSS 2} {ALSA 1} {portaudio 4}
midi_apis: {default-MIDI 2} {ALSA-MIDI 1}
sys_font: Courier
sys_fontweight: normal
pd: watchdog process died
DEFAULT FONT: Liberation Mono
WARNING: Font family 'Courier' not found, using default (Liberation
Mono)
[r...@xuxu src]# audio OSS
audio ALSA
audio portaudio
midi default-MIDI
midi ALSA-MIDI
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
Load all plugins in /home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup:
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/object_db.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/set_custom_stored_histories.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/addmypatchstomedia.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/file_associations.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/meters_default_on.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/insertintopopup.tcl
-- done with main --
set_menu_new_dir .pdwindow
If anybody has an idea of what might be going on, pleas help.
Adrian
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:25:28 -0700 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
wrote
--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:43 AM
On Sep 10, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
I think this is unrelated to the fact that carriage
returns aren't
saved with the patch; if you're entering lots of
messages followed by
semicolons, you still need to hit enter to get
to the next line, and
that's where the quirky behavior comes in.
-Jonathan
The carriage returns get stripped when saved to the
file. It is annoying for sure.
Yes, but what I mean is if this quirky behavior is easily fixable,
it's
still useful even though carriage returns don't get saved with the
patch.
Currently, enter is mainly used in a msg box after typing a
semicolon,
and when the patch gets loaded a cr is added after the semicolon. So
if a new line would be started after the user types enter
(instead of
after the *next* character is entered) it would look like Pd is doing
the right thing in 90% of the cases where you use a carriage return
in
a msg box.
Oh, something related to cr's: it's currently difficult to click
the right spot in multi-line comments in pd-ext:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2812603group_id=55736atid=478070
This isn't a problem in current version of pd-vanilla.
-Jonathan
.hc
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Ok, I think the problem was that I was trying to run pd as root. When I run it
as normal user its all fine!! :D
Thanks!
Adrian
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:37:21 -0700 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
wrote
Strange, perhaps a bug in Tcl/Tk 8.5.3. I've only been using 8.5.6,
8.5.7, and various 8.4 versions. Try this from the terminal:
wish pd-gui.tcl
.hc
On Sep 17, 2009, at 11:30 AM, adrian.g wrote:
HI. I have some problem here running the Pd-GUI-Rewrite on Fedora 10
with Planet CCRMA. PD starts for a moment, I can see the main window
appearing for a split second and then it quits.
In the Terminal I get this:
priority 98 scheduling enabled.
sh: ../bin/pd-watchdog: No such file or directory
priority 96 scheduling enabled.
---pd-
gui.tcl---
check_for_running_instances 1 5400
Tcl library: /usr/share/tcl8.5
executable: /usr/bin/wish
tclversion: 8.5
patchlevel: 8.5.3
sharedlibextension: .so
-- pdtk_pd_startup
version: Pd version 0.43-0hcs0
audio_apis: {OSS 2} {ALSA 1} {portaudio 4}
midi_apis: {default-MIDI 2} {ALSA-MIDI 1}
sys_font: Courier
sys_fontweight: normal
pd: watchdog process died
DEFAULT FONT: Liberation Mono
WARNING: Font family 'Courier' not found, using default (Liberation
Mono)
[r...@xuxu src]# audio OSS
audio ALSA
audio portaudio
midi default-MIDI
midi ALSA-MIDI
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
pdtk_canvas_getscroll .pdwindow
Load all plugins in /home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup:
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/object_db.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/set_custom_stored_histories.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/addmypatchstomedia.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/file_associations.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/meters_default_on.tcl
/home/xuxu/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/insertintopopup.tcl
-- done with main --
set_menu_new_dir .pdwindow
If anybody has an idea of what might be going on, pleas help.
Adrian
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:25:28 -0700 Jonathan Wilkes
jancs...@yahoo.com
wrote
--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:43 AM
On Sep 10, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
I think this is unrelated to the fact that carriage
returns aren't
saved with the patch; if you're entering lots of
messages followed by
semicolons, you still need to hit enter to get
to the next line, and
that's where the quirky behavior comes in.
-Jonathan
The carriage returns get stripped when saved to the
file. It is annoying for sure.
Yes, but what I mean is if this quirky behavior is easily fixable,
it's
still useful even though carriage returns don't get saved with the
patch.
Currently, enter is mainly used in a msg box after typing a
semicolon,
and when the patch gets loaded a cr is added after the semicolon. So
if a new line would be started after the user types enter
(instead of
after the *next* character is entered) it would look like Pd is doing
the right thing in 90% of the cases where you use a carriage return
in
a msg box.
Oh, something related to cr's: it's currently difficult to click
the right spot in multi-line comments in pd-ext:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2812603group_id=55736atid=478070
This isn't a problem in current version of pd-vanilla.
-Jonathan
.hc
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It is supposed to, but on Mac OS X, the localization stuff is confusing and over-complicated. First off, make sure you have de.msg in your .app, it should be here: Pd-devel.app/Contents/Resources/po/de.msg If de.msg is there, could you send me the results of these commands: defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLanguages Then in the Tcl entry in the Pd window, run this line and tell me what it prints: pdtk_post $::tcl::mac::locale .hc On Sep 17, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Max wrote: Hans: Is it supposed to use the localisations? because it doesn't. Am 04.09.2009 um 18:45 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:43 AM On Sep 10, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think this is unrelated to the fact that carriage returns aren't saved with the patch; if you're entering lots of messages followed by semicolons, you still need to hit enter to get to the next line, and that's where the quirky behavior comes in. -Jonathan The carriage returns get stripped when saved to the file. It is annoying for sure. Yes, but what I mean is if this quirky behavior is easily fixable, it's still useful even though carriage returns don't get saved with the patch. Currently, enter is mainly used in a msg box after typing a semicolon, and when the patch gets loaded a cr is added after the semicolon. So if a new line would be started after the user types enter (instead of after the *next* character is entered) it would look like Pd is doing the right thing in 90% of the cases where you use a carriage return in a msg box. Oh, something related to cr's: it's currently difficult to click the right spot in multi-line comments in pd-ext: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2812603group_id=55736atid=478070 This isn't a problem in current version of pd-vanilla. -Jonathan .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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I'm very interested in making a good pd window' as mentioned before. Where's the 'brainstorming taking place? (Maybe here on the list??) ...and: What do you guys recommend for me on amd64 with my 32bit externals? Thanks, -- Muranyi Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sep 10, 2009, at 1:10 PM, András Murányi wrote: I'm very interested in making a good pd window' as mentioned before. Where's the 'brainstorming taking place? (Maybe here on the list??) Have you seen the most recent Pd window? I made it better than the original, but there is still lots of room for improvement. Plus there is the possibility of making custom Pd windows as a plugin. ...and: What do you guys recommend for me on amd64 with my 32bit externals? On GNU/Linux, you can just build everything from source as either 32- bit or 64-bit. .hc Thanks, -- Muranyi Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sep 10, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:24 AM Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc In windows, one thing I'm seeing is that when you try to close a patch, it just reappears in the top left corner of the screen. Here's what's printed to the console: Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .xd78338 -Jonathan Ok, lots of work, including quite a bit on the Windows front. The file is called the same thing for Windows, but its a new file with a bunch of changes: http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds For all of the platforms, you can stay up to date by following the 'svn update' instructions in the above page. .hc Cool! Thanks for testing and reporting bugs! Do you have any examples of what can be done with the tcl window at the bottom of the console? You can run anything Tcl. try running menu_message_dialog or console show. Look in pd/startup for examples of things to do with Tcl. Here's a couple of things I see right off: * The check mark for Edit Mode is too faint until you mouse over it. on the todo list * clicking the Text Editor gives the following error: invalid command name menu_texteditor invalid command name menu_texteditor while executing menu_texteditor $::focused_window (menu invoke) not implemented and perhaps unneeded * Preferences give the following error: invalid command name menu_preferences_dialog invalid command name menu_preferences_dialog while executing menu_preferences_dialog (menu invoke) not implemented yet * File-Message (ctrl-m) doesn't work Fixed, 'svn up' and try again. * If you try to close a window, it gets moved to the top left of the screen. (But it does close after going through the Discard Changes dialog) strange... noted * The gui level meter for IN displays three bars when you turn on the level meter and DSP. That's the noise level of your sound input. Those meters need to be calibrated. They are currently pretty rough. * The recent files in the file menu don't persist after you close Pd. Yeah, its not stored yet, first we need to figure out a framework for storing things like that. * Audio settings... and MIDI settings... don't work Fixed, 'svn up' and try again. * If you make a subpatch and choose Parent window from the Window menu, the parent window is moved to the top left corner noted. * Help-About gives the following error: can't read pd_myversion: no such variable can't read pd_myversion: no such variable while executing regsub -all PD_VERSION $bigstring2 $pd_myversion bigstring3 (procedure ::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext line 15) invoked from within ::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext $dirname/$basename not implemented yet, on the todo list * Find only works the first time. noted * Help-Browser window is too narrow, and the text is too small Fixed, 'svn up' and try again. * (probably old, but I just noticed) When you choose an item from the Put menu, it initially doesn't line up with the mouse pointer (click on VU meter but don't move the mouse at all, and you'll see it). Yeah, that's an old one, it uses the last known mouse position. That's handle in 'pd', so the C code. .hc News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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On Sep 10, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: * clicking the Text Editor gives the following error: invalid command name menu_texteditor invalid command name menu_texteditor while executing menu_texteditor $::focused_window (menu invoke) not implemented and perhaps unneeded Oh, that reminds me: one thing Text Editor does that normal obj and msg boxes don't is start a new line after a carriage return. In a msg box you hit enter, then you have to wait until you type another character to see you're on a new line. If the Text Editor is going away, that aspect of msg boxes should be fixed. Ideally, editing in the box itself would provide everything expected. I've never used the Text Editor, I thought it was just for copy-n- paste. I was asking to see if there were other reasons for it. Seems like there are. Anyone want to take on implementing a better text editor function? I'd just copy-n-paste the old code. I think this is unrelated to the fact that carriage returns aren't saved with the patch; if you're entering lots of messages followed by semicolons, you still need to hit enter to get to the next line, and that's where the quirky behavior comes in. -Jonathan The carriage returns get stripped when saved to the file. It is annoying for sure. .hc http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:24 AM Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc In windows, one thing I'm seeing is that when you try to close a patch, it just reappears in the top left corner of the screen. Here's what's printed to the console: Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .xd78338 -Jonathan Ok, lots of work, including quite a bit on the Windows front. The file is called the same thing for Windows, but its a new file with a bunch of changes: http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds For all of the platforms, you can stay up to date by following the 'svn update' instructions in the above page. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hi List, The osx build isnt working for me-Im on osx ppc 10.4? Am I doing something wrong? many thanks On 8 Sep 2009 04:46, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:24 AM Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc In windows, one thing I'm seeing is that when you try to close a patch, it just reappears in the top left corner of the screen. Here's what's printed to the console: Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .xd78338 -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Ah, sorry, its Intel only for now. PowerPC builds will come once there are proper nightly builds. .hc On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:47 AM, alan.dub...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi List, The osx build isnt working for me-Im on osx ppc 10.4? Am I doing something wrong? many thanks On 8 Sep 2009 04:46, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:24 AM Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc In windows, one thing I'm seeing is that when you try to close a patch, it just reappears in the top left corner of the screen. Here's what's printed to the console: Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .xd78338 -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:24 AM Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc In windows, one thing I'm seeing is that when you try to close a patch, it just reappears in the top left corner of the screen. Here's what's printed to the console: Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .xd78338 -Jonathan Hmm, yeah, it definitely needs work on the Windows side, if anyone can jump in. .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:24 AM Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc In windows, one thing I'm seeing is that when you try to close a patch, it just reappears in the top left corner of the screen. Here's what's printed to the console: Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu Running pdtk_fixwindowmenu ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .xd78338 ::pd_bindings::window_configure .pdwindow ::pd_bindings::window_focusin .xd78338 -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. - David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli kill your television ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Sounds like good stuff. I tried it on Mac OS X using Pd-extended 0.41.4, there are some ttk:style statements not wrapped in the Tcl/Tk 8.5 test around line 414, so that caused problems with 8.4. On Mac OS X, the font is a bit weird and others things are too. That's the pain of cross-platform programming... Anyway, I think the way forward is for you to adapt your changes to the new GUI code. You could either do it as 'diff' patches or I think it would be possible to make it a plugin so you can only worry about a single platform. Here's more info that, if you look in the pd/startup/disabled folder you can see an example called 'gtklook.tcl' which uses the 'option' system to mess with the look: http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Hans (and others), Attached is teh GUI rewrite I did this summer which also ports existing GUI into the tcl/tk 8.5 with following features: 1) code setup so that the 8.4 systems remain unaffected (this has not been fully tested) 2) new linux theme built on clam theme (not sure if this is its right name) 3) easy altering of the color scheme (see top of the script, currently configured to use Ubuntu human) 4) all Pd widgets ported to 8.5 5) new color picker widget for Linux (as tcl/tk has only 8.4 version of it so it makes it look ultra-ugly in comparison with others) with color saving options 6) other widget/style clean-up to make it more consistent 7) pd opens in minimial form (console closed) for performance mode 8) added console clean button (when in expanded view) 9) bunch of error-checking and bug-fixes (e.g. windows closing when done etc.) Needless to mention this thing looks a lot nicer to my eyes than the old version. Finally, my apologies for not forward you this sooner (blame it on summer vacation and then beginning of a new semester if you like :-) Let me know if you have any questions. Best wishes, Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound Intermedia Studio Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico.bukvic.net pd.tk Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Yep, same errors on two different XP machines. There's something wrong with your zip file. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:43 PM Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. - David Zicarelli kill your television ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Ok, rezipped it using the command line 'zip' program in Cygwin and reuploaded. It works for me on Mac OS X. Please try it and let me. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Yep, same errors on two different XP machines. There's something wrong with your zip file. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:43 PM Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli kill your television ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Still says it's corrupted. Can you zip it using the native windows compression? (right click the folder - send to - Compressed (zipped) folder ) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:16 PM Ok, rezipped it using the command line 'zip' program in Cygwin and reuploaded. It works for me on Mac OS X. Please try it and let me. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Yep, same errors on two different XP machines. There's something wrong with your zip file. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:43 PM Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. - David Zicarelli kill your television ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Hello, i repacked the .zip into a .tar (should be no problem to unpack it in windoze) http://itchybit.org/pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.tar when unzipping i got this: ... creating: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/ inflating: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd: mismatching local filename (pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/), continuing with central filename version replace pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]ename: y extracting: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd maybe it helps, gnd/ Still says it's corrupted. Can you zip it using the native windows compression? (right click the folder - send to - Compressed (zipped) folder ) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:16 PM Ok, rezipped it using the command line 'zip' program in Cygwin and reuploaded. It works for me on Mac OS X. Please try it and let me. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Yep, same errors on two different XP machines. There's something wrong with your zip file. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:43 PM Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. - David Zicarelli kill your television ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, g...@itchybit.org g...@itchybit.org wrote: From: g...@itchybit.org g...@itchybit.org Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 12:29 AM Hello, i repacked the .zip into a .tar (should be no problem to unpack it in windoze) http://itchybit.org/pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.tar Thanks for doing this, it unzips fine, but it's missing files (for example there's no pd executable). If anyone can actually get it running on windows (windoze :) let me know and I'll happily start testing it. -Jonathan when unzipping i got this: ... creating: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/ inflating: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd: mismatching local filename (pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/), continuing with central filename version replace pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]ename: y extracting: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd maybe it helps, gnd/ Still says it's corrupted. Can you zip it using the native windows compression? (right click the folder - send to - Compressed (zipped) folder ) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:16 PM Ok, rezipped it using the command line 'zip' program in Cygwin and reuploaded. It works for me on Mac OS X. Please try it and let me. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Yep, same errors on two different XP machines. There's something wrong with your zip file. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:43 PM Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. - David Zicarelli kill your television ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Sat, 9/5/09, g...@itchybit.org g...@itchybit.org wrote: From: g...@itchybit.org g...@itchybit.org Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 12:29 AM Hello, i repacked the .zip into a .tar (should be no problem to unpack it in windoze) http://itchybit.org/pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.tar Thanks for doing this, it unzips fine, but it's missing files (for example there's no pd executable). If anyone can actually get it running on windows (windoze :) let me know and I'll happily start testing it. -Jonathan when unzipping i got this: ... creating: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/ inflating: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd: mismatching local filename (pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/), continuing with central filename version replace pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]ename: y extracting: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd maybe it helps, gnd/ Still says it's corrupted. Can you zip it using the native windows compression? (right click the folder - send to - Compressed (zipped) folder ) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:16 PM Ok, rezipped it using the command line 'zip' program in Cygwin and reuploaded. It works for me on Mac OS X. Please try it and let me. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Yep, same errors on two different XP machines. There's something wrong with your zip file. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:43 PM Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli kill your television ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:24 AM Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc Hey great, it works! One thing off the bat is that the fonts for the menus are too small (see attached png) -Jonathan attachment: screenshot.PNG___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
