Re: [PD] iPhone control
hi, I used mrmr earlier (http://poly.share.dj/projects/#mrmr http://poly.share.dj/wiki/index.php/Mrmr they are both down at the moment I don't know why) and did some test runs for the system that I have been developing. It is an open source project that gives you touch screen and accelerometer control data through OSC. It allows you to design your control interface on iPod Touch or iPhone and only allows one way OSC data transfer. You can also receive touch screen and accelerometer control data with a very simple rjdj scene through netsend/receive objects, but there are some problems with touch screen control data, sometimes it is not as accurate as mrmr or others. rjdj doesn't work with 1st generation iPod Touch. I would suggest to check mrmr, later on you will end up developing a custom application based on your project/application needs, thats what I am working on whenever I have time for that :) Koray - M.Koray Tahiroglu Acoustics Lab / TKK http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt/ http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~ktahirog/ tel: +358 45 233 6272 On Sep 12, 2009, at 9:21 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 3 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:55:14 -0400 From: The Space Between the Words i...@thespacebetweenthewords.org Subject: Re: [PD] iPhone control To: fred-ordi o...@fredvoisin.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: f8120b32-d4ad-433c-bccd-d29f94b9c...@thespacebetweenthewords.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes My initial motivation was the ability to have a touch screen controller, with pd running on my MacBook. Regards, Jerome On Sep 12, 2009, at 9:08 AM, fred-ordi o...@fredvoisin.com wrote: I'd like to try, but rjdj doesn't want to install thru itunes (mac) on my (old jailbroken) ipodtouch... Is there a way to install it on ipodtouch ? fred The Space Between the Words wrote: Gotcha. Has anybody played with any rjdj scenes in a context where the audience was greater then one? What worked, didn't work? Regards, Jerome On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at wrote: I think its more fun to run Pd on the iPhone itself: http://rjdj.me .hc On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Jerome Covington wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list --- --- --- --- http://at.or.at/hans/ http://at.or.at/hans/ --- - ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:55 AM, The Space Between the Words i...@thespacebetweenthewords.org wrote: My initial motivation was the ability to have a touch screen controller, with pd running on my MacBook. Yo Jerome - in that case I can unequivocally recommend TouchOSC. In the last month or two he released a GUI editor you can use to build any kind of control arrangement you like, and even before that I always felt it had the best controls of the bunch. I've used it for some live stuff and it was wonderful (it has a cool undocumented feature that you can grab a control on one screen, switch tabs and keep controlling the first control while grabbing a second control on the new tab with another finger... erm, try it out, maybe you'll get what I mean : )) http://hexler.net/software/touchosc There's also the very interesting Fantastick, which is essentially infinitely flexible, giving you direct draw access to the screen (and even some OpenGL) from Pd and direct multitouch access from Pd. I've played with that and it's very cool, but the visual responsiveness of course isn't quite as good as TouchOSC 'cuz of the round trip to get new drawing commands (and it's obviously a lot more labor). http://pinktwins.com/fantastick/ Both options have accelerometer support. Best Luke Regards, Jerome On Sep 12, 2009, at 9:08 AM, fred-ordi o...@fredvoisin.com wrote: I'd like to try, but rjdj doesn't want to install thru itunes (mac) on my (old jailbroken) ipodtouch... Is there a way to install it on ipodtouch ? fred The Space Between the Words wrote: Gotcha. Has anybody played with any rjdj scenes in a context where the audience was greater then one? What worked, didn't work? Regards, Jerome On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at wrote: I think its more fun to run Pd on the iPhone itself: http://rjdj.me .hc On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Jerome Covington wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
Jerome, The piece I performed at PdCon09 used TouchOSC (on my iPhone) to trigger samples and FX settings in Pd. TouchOSC worked very well. There were no latency issues. The piece was called Kruezspiel-remix. If you want to see the patch, just let me know. Mitch Message: 9 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:18:14 -0400 From: Jerome Covington i...@thespacebetweenthewords.org Subject: [PD] iPhone control To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4cfec2ef090918p694f9714q3d632f8f145ca...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
:-) he is probably right for most of the cases. But if you intended to do some intensive sound processing, or use a multi input/output sound card, ... or use pd with some intensive video, or in collaboration with other another software on the same computer (with localhost communication) or whatever else I didn't think about... Then, you may be interested with other solutions as: OSCulator, http://www.osculator.net Actually, I don't use it with an iPhone (I don't have one...) but with a wiimote (even if there are some tools as externals for pd that can also do this job but I found it stable convenient for the user interface, visualizing the signals , battery monitoring etc...) Else, maybe you can run pd on the iphone and send data with OSC to another computer... see also: http://music.blogdig.net/archives/articles/May2008/08/Tutorial__More_iPhone_iPod_Touch_Control_With_Open_Source_Pure_Data.html loic On 12 sept. 09, at 04:03, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think its more fun to run Pd on the iPhone itself: http://rjdj.me .hc On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Jerome Covington wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
Gotcha. Has anybody played with any rjdj scenes in a context where the audience was greater then one? What worked, didn't work? Regards, Jerome On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think its more fun to run Pd on the iPhone itself: http://rjdj.me .hc On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Jerome Covington wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list --- --- -- http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
I'd like to try, but rjdj doesn't want to install thru itunes (mac) on my (old jailbroken) ipodtouch... Is there a way to install it on ipodtouch ? fred The Space Between the Words wrote: Gotcha. Has anybody played with any rjdj scenes in a context where the audience was greater then one? What worked, didn't work? Regards, Jerome On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at wrote: I think its more fun to run Pd on the iPhone itself: http://rjdj.me .hc On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Jerome Covington wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
My initial motivation was the ability to have a touch screen controller, with pd running on my MacBook. Regards, Jerome On Sep 12, 2009, at 9:08 AM, fred-ordi o...@fredvoisin.com wrote: I'd like to try, but rjdj doesn't want to install thru itunes (mac) on my (old jailbroken) ipodtouch... Is there a way to install it on ipodtouch ? fred The Space Between the Words wrote: Gotcha. Has anybody played with any rjdj scenes in a context where the audience was greater then one? What worked, didn't work? Regards, Jerome On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at wrote: I think its more fun to run Pd on the iPhone itself: http://rjdj.me .hc On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Jerome Covington wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list --- --- --- --- http://at.or.at/hans/ http://at.or.at/hans/ --- - ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
Does RJDJ do OSC? Then it would be quite simple... D. The Space Between the Words wrote: My initial motivation was the ability to have a touch screen controller, with pd running on my MacBook. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 177: What is the reality of the situation? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
Use the python proxy Chris wrote, it's in the composer tools download. a. On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:08:05 +0200 fred-ordi o...@fredvoisin.com wrote: I'd like to try, but rjdj doesn't want to install thru itunes (mac) on my (old jailbroken) ipodtouch... Is there a way to install it on ipodtouch ? fred The Space Between the Words wrote: Gotcha. Has anybody played with any rjdj scenes in a context where the audience was greater then one? What worked, didn't work? Regards, Jerome On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at wrote: I think its more fun to run Pd on the iPhone itself: http://rjdj.me .hc On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Jerome Covington wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
Andy, which composer tools page where? I don't recall such a section at the pd community page. J Andy Farnell wrote: Use the python proxy Chris wrote, it's in the composer tools download. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
I've used the various OSC controllers (MRMR, OSCemote, TouchOSC) and I've written some custom web apps to control things (I have some posts over at www.pillowsopher.com/blog). The OSC stuff is faster (more responsive and less latency) than the web stuff, but I liked the degree of control the web apps gave me. OSCemote is a nice compromise because you can create a UI using HTML and JavaScript. andy On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jerome Covington i...@thespacebetweenthewords.org wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iPhone control
I think its more fun to run Pd on the iPhone itself: http://rjdj.me .hc On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Jerome Covington wrote: Would anybody care to share experiences working on projects to use the iPhone as a controller for pD? -- Regards, Jerome Covington . . . . : . . . . : define audio development ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list