Re: [PD] sysex messages

[Miller Puckette]

Hi Mario -

Perhaps you said this in the previous message which I missed... are you
using ALSA MIDI system or OSS?

MIDI support has always been a problem in Pd... largely because I don't have
a lot of experience with it.

cheers
Miller

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:04:00AM +, mario buoninfante wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I ran few more tests on Linux trying to understand what's going on with
> [midiout] and sysex messages.
> 
> I discovered that it's not just about sysex. I'm monitoring MIDI from Pd
> with /KMidimon /and /GMIDImonitor/, and I noticed that also sending Note On
> messages with [midiout] seems to be in some way different then sending the
> same message using [noteout].
> 
> when Note On is sent using [midiout], this will spit single bytes that are
> recognized as single byte sysex messages by the MIDI monitors!
> 
> has anyone ever experienced the same?
> 
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Mario
> 
> 


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[PD] sysex messages

[mario buoninfante]

Hi,


I ran few more tests on Linux trying to understand what's going on with 
[midiout] and sysex messages.


I discovered that it's not just about sysex. I'm monitoring MIDI from Pd 
with /KMidimon /and /GMIDImonitor/, and I noticed that also sending Note 
On messages with [midiout] seems to be in some way different then 
sending the same message using [noteout].


when Note On is sent using [midiout], this will spit single bytes that 
are recognized as single byte sysex messages by the MIDI monitors!


has anyone ever experienced the same?


cheers,

Mario


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Re: [PD] drag and drop external?

[me.grimm]

i meant:


$ ./configure --with-tcl
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/



On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:04 PM, me.grimm  wrote:

> hello,
>
> >> does not work on Windows:
>
> yeah that libtkdnd is built for MacOS 64-bit only (i believe). tkdnd would
> have to be built for windows (dll?).
>
> really the repo needs a submodule (https://github.com/petasis/tkdnd) but
> i think i remember it was such a pain to get built ( see
> https://github.com/petasis/tkdnd/issues/1 ) i just pushed what worked for
> my system and left it at that. it should work on all os's now that pd is
> all tk 8.5 and greater. i think part of the problem a couple years ago was
> MacOS pd vanilla was still stuck at tk 8.4.
>
> even trying to build quick now i get:
>
> $ ./configure --with-tcl /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.
> framework/Versions/8.5/tkConfig.sh
>
> configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target
>
> configure: WARNING: invalid host type: /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.
> framework/Versions/8.5/tkConfig.sh
>
> checking TEA configuration... ok (TEA 3.13)
>
> configure: configuring tkdnd 2.9
>
> checking system version... Darwin-17.4.0
>
> checking for Tcl configuration... configure: error: yes directory doesn't
> contain tclConfig.sh
>
> and dont have time to troubleshoot.
>
> m
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Lucas Cordiviola 
> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately
>>
>> https://github.com/megrimm/pd-dnd-plugin
>>
>> does not work on Windows:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Loading plugin: C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/dnd-plugin.tcl
>> -
>> Drag and Drop on Window
>> Drag and Drop on Canvas
>> -
>> ---
>> UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't load library "C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roam
>> ing/pd/tkdnd/libtkdnd2.8.dylib": invalid argument
>> while executing
>> "load $dir/$PKG_LIB_FILE $PACKAGE_NAME"
>> (procedure "tkdnd::initialise" line 92)
>> invoked from within
>> "tkdnd::initialise {C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/tkdnd}
>> libtkdnd2.8.dylib tkdnd"
>> ("package ifneeded tkdnd 2.8" script)
>> invoked from within
>> "package require tkdnd"
>> ("uplevel" body line 18)
>> invoked from within
>> "uplevel #0 $tclcode"
>> FAILED TO LOAD C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/dnd-plugin.tcl
>> ---
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>
>> On 3/12/2018 5:34 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-03-12 07:53, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>
>> Hi, would it be possible to write an external that could respond to drag
>> and drop? Like opening a file or something? Was anything like this ever
>> done? Or is it impossible cause it'd require some changes to Pd?
>>
>> yes, it was done.
>> e.g. https://github.com/megrimm/pd-dnd-plugin
>>
>> fg
>> asrdm
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] drag and drop external?

[me.grimm]

hello,

>> does not work on Windows:

yeah that libtkdnd is built for MacOS 64-bit only (i believe). tkdnd would
have to be built for windows (dll?).

really the repo needs a submodule (https://github.com/petasis/tkdnd) but i
think i remember it was such a pain to get built ( see
https://github.com/petasis/tkdnd/issues/1 ) i just pushed what worked for
my system and left it at that. it should work on all os's now that pd is
all tk 8.5 and greater. i think part of the problem a couple years ago was
MacOS pd vanilla was still stuck at tk 8.4.

even trying to build quick now i get:

$ ./configure --with-tcl
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/tkConfig.sh

configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target

configure: WARNING: invalid host type:
/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/tkConfig.sh

checking TEA configuration... ok (TEA 3.13)

configure: configuring tkdnd 2.9

checking system version... Darwin-17.4.0

checking for Tcl configuration... configure: error: yes directory doesn't
contain tclConfig.sh

and dont have time to troubleshoot.

m


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Lucas Cordiviola 
wrote:

> Unfortunately
>
> https://github.com/megrimm/pd-dnd-plugin
>
> does not work on Windows:
>
> 
>
> Loading plugin: C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/dnd-plugin.tcl
> -
> Drag and Drop on Window
> Drag and Drop on Canvas
> -
> ---
> UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't load library "C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/
> Roaming/pd/tkdnd/libtkdnd2.8.dylib": invalid argument
> while executing
> "load $dir/$PKG_LIB_FILE $PACKAGE_NAME"
> (procedure "tkdnd::initialise" line 92)
> invoked from within
> "tkdnd::initialise {C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/tkdnd}
> libtkdnd2.8.dylib tkdnd"
> ("package ifneeded tkdnd 2.8" script)
> invoked from within
> "package require tkdnd"
> ("uplevel" body line 18)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 $tclcode"
> FAILED TO LOAD C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/dnd-plugin.tcl
> ---
>
>
> **
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
> On 3/12/2018 5:34 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>
> On 2018-03-12 07:53, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>
> Hi, would it be possible to write an external that could respond to drag
> and drop? Like opening a file or something? Was anything like this ever
> done? Or is it impossible cause it'd require some changes to Pd?
>
> yes, it was done.
> e.g. https://github.com/megrimm/pd-dnd-plugin
>
> fg
> asrdm
> IOhannes
>
>
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Re: [PD] what's up with "#" and iemgui labels (bug)?

[Ivica Ico Bukvic]

This was fixed in pd-l2ork a while ago. Perhaps porting the patch may 
not be a bad idea?


Best,

Ico


On 3/12/2018 6:09 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
Hi, "#" characters become "$" when trying to put them into GUI labels, 
is there a good reason for it? Or should we just treat it as a bug and 
fix it?


cheers


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Re: [PD] drag and drop external?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2018-03-12 13:29 GMT-03:00 Ingo :

> Drag & Drop would definitely be cool!
>
> I got something going with the old (deprecated) [toxy/tot] but it's very
> complicated like that.
>

can you share?

So it would be possible with an external, huh? I thought that maybe,
somehow, it could only be possible with a .tcl plugin, like posted here.
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Re: [PD] drag and drop external?

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Unfortunately

https://github.com/megrimm/pd-dnd-plugin

does not work on Windows:



Loading plugin: C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/dnd-plugin.tcl
-
Drag and Drop on Window
Drag and Drop on Canvas
-
---
UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't load library 
"C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/tkdnd/libtkdnd2.8.dylib": invalid argument
while executing
"load $dir/$PKG_LIB_FILE $PACKAGE_NAME"
(procedure "tkdnd::initialise" line 92)
invoked from within
"tkdnd::initialise {C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/tkdnd} 
libtkdnd2.8.dylib tkdnd"
("package ifneeded tkdnd 2.8" script)
invoked from within
"package require tkdnd"
("uplevel" body line 18)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $tclcode"
FAILED TO LOAD C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/dnd-plugin.tcl
---


**

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 3/12/2018 5:34 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

On 2018-03-12 07:53, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:


Hi, would it be possible to write an external that could respond to drag
and drop? Like opening a file or something? Was anything like this ever
done? Or is it impossible cause it'd require some changes to Pd?



yes, it was done.
e.g. https://github.com/megrimm/pd-dnd-plugin

fg
asrdm
IOhannes





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[PD] what's up with "#" and iemgui labels (bug)?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Hi, "#" characters become "$" when trying to put them into GUI labels, is
there a good reason for it? Or should we just treat it as a bug and fix it?

cheers
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[PD] [PD-announce] PhD Sound and Music Computing (University of Oslo)

[Alexander Refsum Jensenius]

Dear all,

A Doctoral Research Fellowship in Sound and Music Computing is available 
at the University of Oslo:

https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/148855/

 * Deadline: 04.04.2018
 * Start date: September 2018
 * Duration: 3+1 year
 * Salary: 436-490 900 NOK

The fellowship is connected to the new Nordic Sound and Music Computing 
Network  (NordicSMC) funded by the 
Nordic Research Council. This network brings together a group of 
internationally leading sound and music computing researchers from 
institutions in five Nordic countries: Aalborg University, Aalto 
University, KTH Royal Institute of Technology, University of Iceland, 
and University of Oslo. The network covers the field of sound and music 
from the “soft” to the “hard,” including the arts and humanities, and 
the social and natural sciences, as well as engineering, and involves a 
high level of technological competency.


We invite PhD proposals that focus on sound/music interaction with 
periodic/rhythmic human body motion (walking, running, training, etc.). 
The appointed candidate is expected to carry out observation studies of 
human body motion in real-life settings, using different types of mobile 
motion capture systems (full-body suit and individual trackers). Results 
from the analysis of these observation studies should form the basis for 
the development of prototype systems for using such periodic/rhythmic 
motion in musical interaction.


The appointed candidate will benefit from the combined expertise within 
the NordicSMC network, and is expected to carry out one or more 
short-term scientific missions to the other partners. At UiO, the 
candidate will be affiliated with RITMO Centre for Interdisciplinary 
Studies in Rhythm, Time and Motion 
. This interdisciplinary centre 
focuses on rhythm as a structuring mechanism for the temporal dimensions 
of human life. RITMO researchers span the fields of musicology, 
psychology and informatics, and have access to state-of-the-art 
facilities in sound/video recording, motion capture, eye tracking, 
physiological measurements, various types of brain imaging (EEG, fMRI), 
and rapid prototyping and robotics laboratories.


Qualification requirements

 * A Master's Degree or equivalent in sound and music computing, music
   technology, computer science, or other relevant field. The applicant
   is required to document that the degree corresponds to the profile
   for the post. The Master's Degree must have been obtained by the
   time of application.
 * Experience with development of real-time sound and music systems
   (Max, PD, SuperCollider, or similar)
 * Excellent skills in written and oral English
 * Personal suitability and motivation for the position

Please circulate through your networks and forward to relevant 
candidates. Apologies for cross posting.


--
Alexander Refsum Jensenius, Ph.D.
Assoc. Professor, Department of Musicology, University of Oslo


Deputy Director, RITMO Centre for Interdisciplinary Studies in Rhythm, Time, 
and Motion


New book: "A NIME Reader"


New master's programme: "Music, Communication & Technology"


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Re: [PD] drag and drop external?

[Ingo]

Drag & Drop would definitely be cool!

I got something going with the old (deprecated) [toxy/tot] but it's very 
complicated like that.
I'm trying to build a bank manager to drag and drop patches from inside the 
same patch bank or another bank (128 patches each).
It's probably doable like that but not easy.

Unfortunately I had to stop in the middle of getting it done ...
 ... so I don't know, yet if it would actually work.

A working drag and drop function/external would be fantastic.

Ingo


> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Alexandre 
> Torres Porres
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:54 AM
> To: Pd-List
> Subject: [PD] drag and drop external?
>
> Hi, would it be possible to write an external that could respond to drag and 
> drop? Like opening a file or something? Was anything like this ever done? Or 
> is it
> impossible cause it'd require some changes to Pd?
> cheers



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Re: [PD] changing raspberry pi IP from within Pd

[Jack]

And if you talk about the file /etc/sudoers, it is highly recommended to
use the command :
$ sudo visudo
to modify it. This utility verify if you make a mistake when you save
the file.
This modification is not required on Raspbian.
++

Jack



Le 12/03/2018 à 09:32, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
> On 2018-03-12 02:14, Jack wrote:
>> It should be doable by default on Raspbian, but i think it is not
>> possible on Ubuntu for instance (if you start Pd as a regular user).
>> On Raspbian, executing command with root privileges do not ask to enter
>> the password.
>> Maybe i am wrong ?
> 
> i don't know.
> but you can configure 'sudo' to not require you to enter your password.
> either for all commands, or for a specific command (or a number thereof).
> 
> this way you don't need to run Pd as root.
> 
> fgamsdr
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] drag and drop external?

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2018-03-12 07:53, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Hi, would it be possible to write an external that could respond to drag
> and drop? Like opening a file or something? Was anything like this ever
> done? Or is it impossible cause it'd require some changes to Pd?

yes, it was done.
e.g. https://github.com/megrimm/pd-dnd-plugin

fg
asrdm
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] changing raspberry pi IP from within Pd

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2018-03-12 02:14, Jack wrote:
> It should be doable by default on Raspbian, but i think it is not
> possible on Ubuntu for instance (if you start Pd as a regular user).
> On Raspbian, executing command with root privileges do not ask to enter
> the password.
> Maybe i am wrong ?

i don't know.
but you can configure 'sudo' to not require you to enter your password.
either for all commands, or for a specific command (or a number thereof).

this way you don't need to run Pd as root.

fgamsdr
IOhannes




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[PD] drag and drop external?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Hi, would it be possible to write an external that could respond to drag
and drop? Like opening a file or something? Was anything like this ever
done? Or is it impossible cause it'd require some changes to Pd?
cheers
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