Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Christof Ressi]

Thanks for your efforts! I'm willing to test and I've already tried to compile 
but got a few errors. I posted the results on your repository (spacechild1). 
Let's continue there.

Christof
 
 

Gesendet: Montag, 26. September 2016 um 00:16 Uhr
Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <anto...@metalu.net>
An: pd-list <pd-l...@iem.at>
Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

ok, seems resolved now !But I had to use some tricks about dynamic symbol 
resolution, that should be tested on windows. Any volunteer ?.. 
(https://github.com/MetaluNet/moonlib)

 
 
2016-09-25 21:13 GMT+02:00 Antoine Rousseau 
<anto...@metalu.net[anto...@metalu.net]>:
the pd version is only known at runtime.yes that's the point.
I'm looking for a kind of dlsym() working for already loaded symbols.

 
2016-09-25 20:02 GMT+02:00 Christof Ressi 
<christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at]>:Because in his case, the pd 
version is only known at runtime.

> Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. September 2016 um 19:21 Uhr
> Von: "patrice colet" <colet.patr...@free.fr[colet.patr...@free.fr]>
> An: pd-list@lists.iem.at[pd-list@lists.iem.at]
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>

> Hello,
>
>   why not using preprocessor expression like
>
> #if PD_MINOR_VERSION < 47
>
> ...
> iemgui_all_loadcolors();
>
> ...
>
> #endif
>
> ?
>
> Le 25/09/2016 à 16:25, Antoine Rousseau a écrit :
> > Hi all
> >
> > in order to try making a mknob that would be compatible with any Pd
> > version, I still have a problem, with a function that didn't exist
> > prior to 0.47 (iemgui_all_loadcolors). Would someone have an idea to
> > "hide" the call of this function when linked by an older version of Pd?
> >
> > Anyway I now have a version of mknob that is working with 0.47. I'll
> > push it soon.
> >
> >
> > 2016-09-24 5:16 GMT+02:00 Billy Stiltner 
> > <billy.stilt...@gmail.com[billy.stilt...@gmail.com]
> > <mailto:billy.stilt...@gmail.com[billy.stilt...@gmail.com]>>:
> >
> >
> >         while on the subject subject of knobs, would be great to hav
> >         option for integer snapping
> >
> >     its easy to do with a few objects in  a patch
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Antoine Rousseau]

ok, seems resolved now !
But I had to use some tricks about dynamic symbol resolution, that should
be tested on windows. Any volunteer ?.. (
https://github.com/MetaluNet/moonlib)



2016-09-25 21:13 GMT+02:00 Antoine Rousseau <anto...@metalu.net>:

> the pd version is only known at runtime.
>>
> yes that's the point.
> I'm looking for a kind of dlsym() working for already loaded symbols.
>
> 2016-09-25 20:02 GMT+02:00 Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at>:
>
>> Because in his case, the pd version is only known at runtime.
>>
>> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. September 2016 um 19:21 Uhr
>> > Von: "patrice colet" <colet.patr...@free.fr>
>> > An: pd-list@lists.iem.at
>> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> >   why not using preprocessor expression like
>> >
>> > #if PD_MINOR_VERSION < 47
>> >
>> > ...
>> > iemgui_all_loadcolors();
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> > #endif
>> >
>> > ?
>> >
>> > Le 25/09/2016 à 16:25, Antoine Rousseau a écrit :
>> > > Hi all
>> > >
>> > > in order to try making a mknob that would be compatible with any Pd
>> > > version, I still have a problem, with a function that didn't exist
>> > > prior to 0.47 (iemgui_all_loadcolors). Would someone have an idea to
>> > > "hide" the call of this function when linked by an older version of
>> Pd?
>> > >
>> > > Anyway I now have a version of mknob that is working with 0.47. I'll
>> > > push it soon.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2016-09-24 5:16 GMT+02:00 Billy Stiltner <billy.stilt...@gmail.com
>> > > <mailto:billy.stilt...@gmail.com>>:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > while on the subject subject of knobs, would be great to hav
>> > > option for integer snapping
>> > >
>> > > its easy to do with a few objects in  a patch
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Antoine Rousseau]

>
> the pd version is only known at runtime.
>
yes that's the point.
I'm looking for a kind of dlsym() working for already loaded symbols.

2016-09-25 20:02 GMT+02:00 Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at>:

> Because in his case, the pd version is only known at runtime.
>
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. September 2016 um 19:21 Uhr
> > Von: "patrice colet" <colet.patr...@free.fr>
> > An: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >   why not using preprocessor expression like
> >
> > #if PD_MINOR_VERSION < 47
> >
> > ...
> > iemgui_all_loadcolors();
> >
> > ...
> >
> > #endif
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Le 25/09/2016 à 16:25, Antoine Rousseau a écrit :
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > in order to try making a mknob that would be compatible with any Pd
> > > version, I still have a problem, with a function that didn't exist
> > > prior to 0.47 (iemgui_all_loadcolors). Would someone have an idea to
> > > "hide" the call of this function when linked by an older version of Pd?
> > >
> > > Anyway I now have a version of mknob that is working with 0.47. I'll
> > > push it soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2016-09-24 5:16 GMT+02:00 Billy Stiltner <billy.stilt...@gmail.com
> > > <mailto:billy.stilt...@gmail.com>>:
> > >
> > >
> > > while on the subject subject of knobs, would be great to hav
> > > option for integer snapping
> > >
> > > its easy to do with a few objects in  a patch
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[patrice colet]

Thanks for the answer, I see know how it's happening, so maybe this 
could be resolved with the linker like explained in following URL:


http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1617286/easy-check-for-unresolved-symbols-in-shared-libraries

just removing -z option at compile time would do the trick?


Le 25/09/2016 à 20:02, Christof Ressi a écrit :

Because in his case, the pd version is only known at runtime.


Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. September 2016 um 19:21 Uhr
Von: "patrice colet" <colet.patr...@free.fr>
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Hello,

   why not using preprocessor expression like

#if PD_MINOR_VERSION < 47

...
iemgui_all_loadcolors();

...

#endif

?

Le 25/09/2016 à 16:25, Antoine Rousseau a écrit :

Hi all

in order to try making a mknob that would be compatible with any Pd
version, I still have a problem, with a function that didn't exist
prior to 0.47 (iemgui_all_loadcolors). Would someone have an idea to
"hide" the call of this function when linked by an older version of Pd?

Anyway I now have a version of mknob that is working with 0.47. I'll
push it soon.


2016-09-24 5:16 GMT+02:00 Billy Stiltner <billy.stilt...@gmail.com
<mailto:billy.stilt...@gmail.com>>:


 while on the subject subject of knobs, would be great to hav
 option for integer snapping

 its easy to do with a few objects in  a patch

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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[patrice colet]

Hello,

 why not using preprocessor expression like

#if PD_MINOR_VERSION < 47

...
iemgui_all_loadcolors();

...

#endif

?

Le 25/09/2016 à 16:25, Antoine Rousseau a écrit :

Hi all

in order to try making a mknob that would be compatible with any Pd 
version, I still have a problem, with a function that didn't exist 
prior to 0.47 (iemgui_all_loadcolors). Would someone have an idea to 
"hide" the call of this function when linked by an older version of Pd?


Anyway I now have a version of mknob that is working with 0.47. I'll 
push it soon.



2016-09-24 5:16 GMT+02:00 Billy Stiltner >:



while on the subject subject of knobs, would be great to hav
option for integer snapping

its easy to do with a few objects in  a patch

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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Antoine Rousseau]

Hi all

in order to try making a mknob that would be compatible with any Pd
version, I still have a problem, with a function that didn't exist prior to
0.47 (iemgui_all_loadcolors). Would someone have an idea to "hide" the call
of this function when linked by an older version of Pd?

Anyway I now have a version of mknob that is working with 0.47. I'll push
it soon.


2016-09-24 5:16 GMT+02:00 Billy Stiltner :

>
> while on the subject subject of knobs, would be great to hav option for
>> integer snapping
>>
> its easy to do with a few objects in  a patch
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

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> while on the subject subject of knobs, would be great to hav option for
> integer snapping
>
its easy to do with a few objects in  a patch
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Christof Ressi]

Sorry, if I'm being obvious: I found 'sys_getversion' at the end of m_glob.c 
which returns major and minor version number at runtime.
 
Christof

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. September 2016 um 17:56 Uhr
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Thanks a lot ! I think I get it. I'll do it asap.
 
2016-09-22 17:06 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoel...@iem.at>:On 2016-09-22 
12:21, Antoine Rousseau wrote:
> 2016-09-22 11:03 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> <zmoel...@iem.at[zmoel...@iem.at]>:
>
>> On 2016-09-22 08:37, Antoine Rousseau wrote:
>>> you need
>>> to be aware of the version at compilation time, and have to use this
>>> version at runtime. So I don't think you can build an external that would
>>> be compatible for both versions.
>>
>> why?
>>
>
> Because interfaces changed :
>
> -void iemgui_save(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, int *bflcol)
> +void iemgui_save(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, t_symbol**bflcol)
[...]
>
> so how could I build a binary that would switch the interface of iemgui_save
> at runtime, following the version of the running Pd ?
>
>


in pseudo code:
if(pd<0.47)
  iemgui_save(x, srl, i_color);
else
  iemgui_save(x, srl, s_color);

this will give you some compiler warnings, but you can do:

typedef void(t_iemgui_save_old*)(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, int
*bflcol);
typedef void(t_iemgui_save_new*)(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl,
t_symbol **bflcol);

if(pd<0.47) {
    t_iemgui_save_old isave=(t_iemgui_save_old)iemgui_save;
    isave(x, srl, i_color);
} else {
    t_iemgui_save_old isave=(t_iemgui_save_new)iemgui_save;
    isave(x, srl, s_color);
}

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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

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Thanks a lot ! I think I get it. I'll do it asap.

2016-09-22 17:06 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig :

> On 2016-09-22 12:21, Antoine Rousseau wrote:
> > 2016-09-22 11:03 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig :
> >
> >> On 2016-09-22 08:37, Antoine Rousseau wrote:
> >>> you need
> >>> to be aware of the version at compilation time, and have to use this
> >>> version at runtime. So I don't think you can build an external that
> would
> >>> be compatible for both versions.
> >>
> >> why?
> >>
> >
> > Because interfaces changed :
> >
> > -void iemgui_save(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, int *bflcol)
> > +void iemgui_save(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, t_symbol**bflcol)
> [...]
> >
> > so how could I build a binary that would switch the interface of
> iemgui_save
> > at runtime, following the version of the running Pd ?
> >
> >
>
>
> in pseudo code:
> if(pd<0.47)
>   iemgui_save(x, srl, i_color);
> else
>   iemgui_save(x, srl, s_color);
>
> this will give you some compiler warnings, but you can do:
>
> typedef void(t_iemgui_save_old*)(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, int
> *bflcol);
> typedef void(t_iemgui_save_new*)(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl,
> t_symbol **bflcol);
>
> if(pd<0.47) {
> t_iemgui_save_old isave=(t_iemgui_save_old)iemgui_save;
> isave(x, srl, i_color);
> } else {
> t_iemgui_save_old isave=(t_iemgui_save_new)iemgui_save;
> isave(x, srl, s_color);
> }
>
> fgmsdr
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2016-09-22 12:21, Antoine Rousseau wrote:
> 2016-09-22 11:03 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig :
> 
>> On 2016-09-22 08:37, Antoine Rousseau wrote:
>>> you need
>>> to be aware of the version at compilation time, and have to use this
>>> version at runtime. So I don't think you can build an external that would
>>> be compatible for both versions.
>>
>> why?
>>
> 
> Because interfaces changed :
> 
> -void iemgui_save(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, int *bflcol)
> +void iemgui_save(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, t_symbol**bflcol)
[...]
> 
> so how could I build a binary that would switch the interface of iemgui_save
> at runtime, following the version of the running Pd ?
> 
> 


in pseudo code:
if(pd<0.47)
  iemgui_save(x, srl, i_color);
else
  iemgui_save(x, srl, s_color);

this will give you some compiler warnings, but you can do:

typedef void(t_iemgui_save_old*)(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, int
*bflcol);
typedef void(t_iemgui_save_new*)(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl,
t_symbol **bflcol);

if(pd<0.47) {
t_iemgui_save_old isave=(t_iemgui_save_old)iemgui_save;
isave(x, srl, i_color);
} else {
t_iemgui_save_old isave=(t_iemgui_save_new)iemgui_save;
isave(x, srl, s_color);
}

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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Antoine Rousseau]

2016-09-22 11:03 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmoelnig :

> On 2016-09-22 08:37, Antoine Rousseau wrote:
> > you need
> > to be aware of the version at compilation time, and have to use this
> > version at runtime. So I don't think you can build an external that would
> > be compatible for both versions.
>
> why?
>

Because interfaces changed :

-void iemgui_save(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, int *bflcol)
+void iemgui_save(t_iemgui *iemgui, t_symbol **srl, t_symbol**bflcol)

(from
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b
)

so how could I build a binary that would switch the interface of iemgui_save
at runtime, following the version of the running Pd ?
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2016-09-22 08:37, Antoine Rousseau wrote:
> you need
> to be aware of the version at compilation time, and have to use this
> version at runtime. So I don't think you can build an external that would
> be compatible for both versions.

why?



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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Christof Ressi]

you're right, but with some #ifdefs, at least the source can be compatible with 
both versions. building from source will then always work. regarding binaries 
and deken packages, you would have to do it twice, though. Maybe just give a 
little hint in the name? (>= Pd.047 resp. < Pd 0.47). Anyway, if you need 
testing on Windows (for both versions of Pd), count me in! 


 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. September 2016 um 08:37 Uhr
Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <anto...@metalu.net>
An: "Dan Wilcox" <danomat...@gmail.com>
Cc: Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at>
Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

to simply check the version and call that iem color function
 
I don't think so ; the interface of some functions has changed, so you need to 
be aware of the version at compilation time, and have to use this version at 
runtime. So I don't think you can build an external that would be compatible 
for both versions.
 
 
2016-09-22 0:22 GMT+02:00 Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>:

On Sep 21, 2016, at 3:40 PM, 
pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at] wrote: 

From: Antoine Rousseau <anto...@metalu.net[anto...@metalu.net]> 

Thanks ! and thanks to Dan too, pointing me directly to the right direction 
!But I realize that if I fix mknob for latest Pd it will become incompatible 
with older ones…I believe the changes handle saving and loading based on the 
compatibility mode, so you should be able to simply check the version and call 
that iem color function in versions of pd less than 0.48.
 


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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Antoine Rousseau]

>
> to simply check the version and call that iem color function


I don't think so ; the interface of some functions has changed, so you need
to be aware of the version at compilation time, and have to use this
version at runtime. So I don't think you can build an external that would
be compatible for both versions.


2016-09-22 0:22 GMT+02:00 Dan Wilcox :

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 3:40 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>
> *From: *Antoine Rousseau 
>
> Thanks !
> and thanks to Dan too, pointing me directly to the right direction !
> But I realize that if I fix mknob for latest Pd it will become
> incompatible with older ones…
>
>
> I believe the changes handle saving and loading based on the compatibility
> mode, so you should be able to simply check the version and call that iem
> color function in versions of pd less than 0.48.
>
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika 
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
>
>
>


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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Dan Wilcox]

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 3:40 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> From: Antoine Rousseau >
> 
> Thanks ! 
> and thanks to Dan too, pointing me directly to the right direction !
> But I realize that if I fix mknob for latest Pd it will become incompatible 
> with older ones…

I believe the changes handle saving and loading based on the compatibility 
mode, so you should be able to simply check the version and call that iem color 
function in versions of pd less than 0.48.


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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Christof Ressi]

> Of course I would be honored to include mknob (say Add/Knob shift+ctrl+K...) 
> to Pd,
> if authors agree, which would avoid such issue in the future !
 
that would be too good to be true!
 
 

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 um 23:39 Uhr
Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <anto...@metalu.net>
An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.re...@gmx.at>
Cc: "Antoine Rousseau" <anto...@metalu.net>, Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at>
Betreff: Re: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

Thanks !and thanks to Dan too, pointing me directly to the right direction !But 
I realize that if I fix mknob for latest Pd it will become incompatible with 
older ones... Not sure what to do then. Maybe I'll have to upload a new version 
to Deken specifying (in its name) which Pd version to use. Not very 
comfortable... but all of this is only transitional.
 
Of course I would be honored to include mknob (say Add/Knob shift+ctrl+K...) to 
Pd, if authors agree, which would avoid such issue in the future ! I could 
propose a push request to github, or a diff as preferred.
 
 
2016-09-21 22:22 GMT+02:00 Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at>:Thanks a lot! 
By the way, mknob is just awesome! :-)
 
 

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 um 21:51 Uhr
Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <anto...@metalu.net[anto...@metalu.net]>
An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at]>
Cc: Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at[pd-list@lists.iem.at]>
Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

Thanks Christof, i'll try to fix mknob soon.
 
2016-09-21 12:16 GMT+02:00 Christof Ressi 
<christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at]>:Thanks Dan! I filed an issue on 
MetaluNet/moonlib.
 
 

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 um 05:20 Uhr
Von: "Dan Wilcox" 
<danomat...@gmail.com[danomat...@gmail.com][danomat...@gmail.com[danomat...@gmail.com]]>
An: "Lucas Cordiviola" 
<lucard...@hotmail.com[lucard...@hotmail.com][lucard...@hotmail.com[lucard...@hotmail.com]]>
Cc: 
pd-list@lists.iem.at[pd-list@lists.iem.at][pd-list@lists.iem.at[pd-list@lists.iem.at]]
Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

(reposting as I forgot to update subject line) 
 The color format saving & loading was updated recently: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b][https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b]]
 
I’m sure the externs need to be updated to handle this.
 


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On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:15 PM, 
pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at][pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at]][pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at][pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at]]]
 wrote: 

From: Lucas Cordiviola 
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Subject: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
Date: September 20, 2016 at 8:17:06 PM MDT
To: Christof Ressi 
<christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at][christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at]][christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at][christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at]]]>,
 
"pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at][pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]][pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at][pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]]]"
 
<pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at][pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]][pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at][pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]]]>
 
 

Win 8.1
 
[knob] and [mknob]
 
warning:external GUI object uses obsolete Pd function iemgui_all_colfromload()
 
Seems that they work but we cant set the colors. If you connect [numberboxes] 
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Antoine Rousseau]

Thanks !
and thanks to Dan too, pointing me directly to the right direction !
But I realize that if I fix mknob for latest Pd it will become incompatible
with older ones... Not sure what to do then. Maybe I'll have to upload a
new version to Deken specifying (in its name) which Pd version to use. Not
very comfortable... but all of this is only transitional.

Of course I would be honored to include mknob (say Add/Knob
shift+ctrl+K...) to Pd, if authors agree, which would avoid such issue in
the future ! I could propose a push request to github, or a diff as
preferred.


2016-09-21 22:22 GMT+02:00 Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at>:

> Thanks a lot! By the way, mknob is just awesome! :-)
>
>
>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 um 21:51 Uhr
> Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <anto...@metalu.net>
> An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.re...@gmx.at>
> Cc: Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
>
> Thanks Christof, i'll try to fix mknob soon.
>
> 2016-09-21 12:16 GMT+02:00 Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at>:Thanks
> Dan! I filed an issue on MetaluNet/moonlib.
>
>
>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 um 05:20 Uhr
> Von: "Dan Wilcox" <danomat...@gmail.com[danomat...@gmail.com]>
> An: "Lucas Cordiviola" <lucard...@hotmail.com[lucard...@hotmail.com]>
> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at[pd-list@lists.iem.at]
> Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
>
> (reposting as I forgot to update subject line)
>  The color format saving & loading was updated recently:
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/
> 6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b[https://github.com/
> pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b]
>
> I’m sure the externs need to be updated to handle this.
>
>
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika[https://twitter.com/danomatika[https://twitter.com/danomatika]
> ]
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> danomatika.com]]
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>
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[p
> d-list-requ...@lists.iem.at][pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[pd
> -list-requ...@lists.iem.at]] wrote:
>
> From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com[lucard...@hotmail.com][
> lucard...@hotmail.com[lucard...@hotmail.com]]>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
> Date: September 20, 2016 at 8:17:06 PM MDT
> To: Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at][christof.
> re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at]]>, "pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at][
> pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]]" <pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at][
> pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]]>
>
>
> Win 8.1
>
> [knob] and [mknob]
>
> warning:external GUI object uses obsolete Pd function
> iemgui_all_colfromload()
>
> Seems that they work but we cant set the colors. If you connect
> [numberboxes] they work.___
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Antoine Rousseau]

Thanks Christof, i'll try to fix mknob soon.

2016-09-21 12:16 GMT+02:00 Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at>:

> Thanks Dan! I filed an issue on MetaluNet/moonlib.
>
>
>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 um 05:20 Uhr
> Von: "Dan Wilcox" <danomat...@gmail.com>
> An: "Lucas Cordiviola" <lucard...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
>
> (reposting as I forgot to update subject line)
>  The color format saving & loading was updated recently:
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/
> 6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b
>
> I’m sure the externs need to be updated to handle this.
>
>
> 
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika[https://twitter.com/danomatika]
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> On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[p
> d-list-requ...@lists.iem.at] wrote:
>
> From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com[lucard...@hotmail.com]>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
> Date: September 20, 2016 at 8:17:06 PM MDT
> To: Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at]>, "
> pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]" <pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]>
>
>
> Win 8.1
>
> [knob] and [mknob]
>
> warning:external GUI object uses obsolete Pd function
> iemgui_all_colfromload()
>
> Seems that they work but we cant set the colors. If you connect
> [numberboxes] they work.___
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Christof Ressi]

Thanks Dan! I filed an issue on MetaluNet/moonlib.
 
 

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 um 05:20 Uhr
Von: "Dan Wilcox" <danomat...@gmail.com>
An: "Lucas Cordiviola" <lucard...@hotmail.com>
Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

(reposting as I forgot to update subject line) 
 The color format saving & loading was updated recently: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b
 
I’m sure the externs need to be updated to handle this.
 


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On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:15 PM, 
pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at[pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at] wrote: 

From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com[lucard...@hotmail.com]>
Subject: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
Date: September 20, 2016 at 8:17:06 PM MDT
To: Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at[christof.re...@gmx.at]>, 
"pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]" <pd-l...@iem.at[pd-l...@iem.at]> 
 

Win 8.1
 
[knob] and [mknob]
 
warning:external GUI object uses obsolete Pd function iemgui_all_colfromload()
 
Seems that they work but we cant set the colors. If you connect [numberboxes] 
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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Dan Wilcox]

(reposting as I forgot to update subject line) 

The color format saving & loading was updated recently: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b
 
<https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/6af3739b2284cfd53ad0ca8eeb2d3c450767e77b>

I’m sure the externs need to be updated to handle this.


Dan Wilcox
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> On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:15 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at 
> <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote:
> 
> From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com <mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
> Date: September 20, 2016 at 8:17:06 PM MDT
> To: Christof Ressi <christof.re...@gmx.at <mailto:christof.re...@gmx.at>>, 
> "pd-l...@iem.at <mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>" <pd-l...@iem.at 
> <mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>>
> 
> 
> Win 8.1
> 
> [knob] and [mknob]
> 
> warning:external GUI object uses obsolete Pd function iemgui_all_colfromload()
> 
> Seems that they work but we cant set the colors. If you connect [numberboxes] 
> they work.

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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Win 8.1

[knob] and [mknob]

warning:external GUI object uses obsolete Pd function iemgui_all_colfromload()

Seems that they work but we cant set the colors. If you connect [numberboxes] 
they work.







Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.



From: Pd-list <pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at> on behalf of Christof Ressi 
<christof.re...@gmx.at>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:58 AM
To: pd-l...@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

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Re: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Christof Ressi]

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> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2016 um 02:50 Uhr
> Von: "Christof Ressi" <christof.re...@gmx.at>
> An: pd-l...@iem.at
> Betreff: [PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]
>
> Hi, when I open the properties for [knob] (flatgui) or [mknob] (moonlib) in 
> Pd 0.47.1, Tcl throws an error when building the color section and stops 
> building the rest of the gui. I can still set the other properties and 
> confirm with enter (since 'OK' and 'Apply' buttons are not drawn). However, 
> after saving and reopening the patch, the knobs are a total mess, especially 
> [mknob] can't be used at all. See attached snapshots to get an impression. 
> 
> Some questions:
> 1) Is this only happening on Windows 7? Would anyone test this on other 
> platforms and tell if they get a similar behaviour?
> 2) who is the current maintainer of flatgui and moonlib?
> 3) would anyone have a look at the Tcl code? Unfortunately, I don't know Tcl 
> (yet)
> 4) are there any other knob objects I could use in the meantime?
> 
> In a perfect world there would be a knob gui included in Pd vanilla ;-)
> 
> Christof
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[PD] Tcl error for [knob] and [mknob]

[Christof Ressi]

Hi, when I open the properties for [knob] (flatgui) or [mknob] (moonlib) in Pd 
0.47.1, Tcl throws an error when building the color section and stops building 
the rest of the gui. I can still set the other properties and confirm with 
enter (since 'OK' and 'Apply' buttons are not drawn). However, after saving and 
reopening the patch, the knobs are a total mess, especially [mknob] can't be 
used at all. See attached snapshots to get an impression. 

Some questions:
1) Is this only happening on Windows 7? Would anyone test this on other 
platforms and tell if they get a similar behaviour?
2) who is the current maintainer of flatgui and moonlib?
3) would anyone have a look at the Tcl code? Unfortunately, I don't know Tcl 
(yet)
4) are there any other knob objects I could use in the meantime?

In a perfect world there would be a knob gui included in Pd vanilla ;-)

Christof
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