Re: [PD] Upgrading from Pd-extended to 47-0-64bits OSX

[j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net]

thank you all very much for these infos, its a great help on how to proceed !
tks
jma

> Le 10 janv. 2017 à 19:14, Alexandre Torres Porres  a écrit :
> 
> cyclone 0.3 also has alphanumeric versions of the objects found in the 
> cyclone library (e.g. notequals~ instead of !=~), so you can use them even if 
> you do not load the library. And you can also just load the library with 
> [declare]
> 
> cheers
> 
> 2017-01-10 14:49 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres  >:
> you just need it in the path
> 
> now it depends on which cyclone you downloaded from "deken"
> 
> v0-extended is actually "0.1.alpha-56" and it does contain a "hidden" (more 
> like "misplaced") cyclone library in the "maxmode" folder. This library loads 
> 12 non alphanumeric objects that you don't find as single binaries along with 
> every other cyclone object. So you can use that in both ways, as a library or 
> a set of compiled externals.
> 
> If you are trying to bring all extended libraries into Pd you may have chosen 
> this one. But I advise not to use this one as it's arguably the worst cyclone 
> distribution out there. For the most part, Extended did provide 
> "0.1.alpha55", the alpha56 came in the last Pd Extended (0.43) but it breaks 
> many spectral processing patches because of a bug in cartopol~/poltocar~
> 
> You're much better off with the other option you find in deken, which is 
> cyclone "0.2beta", it's an update in respect to the other version and fixes 
> that and other issues. But for this release, the "cyclone library" along with 
> other libraries that used to come in cyclone (maxmode, sickle, hammer) were 
> discarded. It now carries a new library called "nettles" that loads the 12 
> non alphanumeric objects that you don't find as single binaries.
> 
> Me, Derek and Matt have been working on an update for cyclone (version 0.3). 
> I thought it was best to revert back and restore the cyclone library instead 
> of a newly named library. It only contains the so called 12 non alphanumeric 
> objects as well but we might use it for other features. This oughta keep it 
> backwards compatible to the legacy cyclone ("0.1.alpha-56" and earlier). Our 
> work is still highly experimental, in a "pre alpha" phase, but I hope we can 
> move on to an alpha phase next month. You wont find it in deken, but you may 
> find some pre alpha releases here 
> https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases 
>  - more info about the project 
> is found in that github repo.
> 
> here's a print of my install of cyclone 0.3, I just put the path into Pd's 
> path and the "cyclone library" in the startup
> 
> cheers
> 
> 2017-01-09 18:59 GMT-02:00 Miller Puckette  >:
> I'm guessing - but I believe to get cyclone you have to add the appropriate
> shared library to "startup" in Pd's preferences - and perhps it's the same
> for maxlib.
> 
> The other packages are implemented as separate files for each object, so that
> they auto-load.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:38:11PM +0100, j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net 
>  wrote:
> > Hello
> > This is a attempt to migrate from pd-extended to more updated versions for 
> > everyday use  :
> > means im trying to make my own libraries (for the first time in 15 years)
> >
> > I've discovered the ‘Find Externals’ lever in the main menu, and it works 
> > for zexy, iemmatrix (so far) but i could not make it work for cyclone or 
> > maxlib
> >
> > means (cyclone) and (maxlib) folders are downloaded to /Library/Pd/, just 
> > as iemmatfrix or zexy but when launching pd it says "can’t load library"
> > in all cases i do download the (Darwin-x86_64-32)(sources)-externals.
> >
> > Anything to ‘make’ ?
> >
> > Sorry to post this obvious question, looked for a while hints on internet 
> > and archives without success
> > tks
> > JmA
> >
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Re: [PD] Upgrading from Pd-extended to 47-0-64bits OSX

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

cyclone 0.3 also has alphanumeric versions of the objects found in the
cyclone library (e.g. notequals~ instead of !=~), so you can use them even
if you do not load the library. And you can also just load the library with
[declare]

cheers

2017-01-10 14:49 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> you just need it in the path
>
> now it depends on which cyclone you downloaded from "deken"
>
> v0-extended is actually "0.1.alpha-56" and it does contain a "hidden"
> (more like "misplaced") cyclone library in the "maxmode" folder. This
> library loads 12 non alphanumeric objects that you don't find as single
> binaries along with every other cyclone object. So you can use that in both
> ways, as a library or a set of compiled externals.
>
> If you are trying to bring all extended libraries into Pd you may have
> chosen this one. But I advise not to use this one as it's arguably the
> worst cyclone distribution out there. For the most part, Extended did
> provide "0.1.alpha55", the alpha56 came in the last Pd Extended (0.43) but
> it breaks many spectral processing patches because of a bug in
> cartopol~/poltocar~
>
> You're much better off with the other option you find in deken, which is
> cyclone "0.2beta", it's an update in respect to the other version and fixes
> that and other issues. But for this release, the "cyclone library" along
> with other libraries that used to come in cyclone (maxmode, sickle, hammer)
> were discarded. It now carries a new library called "nettles" that loads
> the 12 non alphanumeric objects that you don't find as single binaries.
>
> Me, Derek and Matt have been working on an update for cyclone (version
> 0.3). I thought it was best to revert back and restore the cyclone library
> instead of a newly named library. It only contains the so called 12 non
> alphanumeric objects as well but we might use it for other features. This
> oughta keep it backwards compatible to the legacy cyclone ("0.1.alpha-56"
> and earlier). Our work is still highly experimental, in a "pre alpha"
> phase, but I hope we can move on to an alpha phase next month. You wont
> find it in deken, but you may find some pre alpha releases here
> https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases - more info about the
> project is found in that github repo.
>
> here's a print of my install of cyclone 0.3, I just put the path into Pd's
> path and the "cyclone library" in the startup
>
> cheers
>
> 2017-01-09 18:59 GMT-02:00 Miller Puckette :
>
>> I'm guessing - but I believe to get cyclone you have to add the
>> appropriate
>> shared library to "startup" in Pd's preferences - and perhps it's the same
>> for maxlib.
>>
>> The other packages are implemented as separate files for each object, so
>> that
>> they auto-load.
>>
>> cheers
>> Miller
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:38:11PM +0100, j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net wrote:
>> > Hello
>> > This is a attempt to migrate from pd-extended to more updated versions
>> for everyday use  :
>> > means im trying to make my own libraries (for the first time in 15
>> years)
>> >
>> > I've discovered the ‘Find Externals’ lever in the main menu, and it
>> works for zexy, iemmatrix (so far) but i could not make it work for cyclone
>> or maxlib
>> >
>> > means (cyclone) and (maxlib) folders are downloaded to /Library/Pd/,
>> just as iemmatfrix or zexy but when launching pd it says "can’t load
>> library"
>> > in all cases i do download the (Darwin-x86_64-32)(sources)-externals.
>> >
>> > Anything to ‘make’ ?
>> >
>> > Sorry to post this obvious question, looked for a while hints on
>> internet and archives without success
>> > tks
>> > JmA
>> >
>> >
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Re: [PD] Upgrading from Pd-extended to 47-0-64bits OSX

[Lucas Cordiviola]

>means (cyclone) and (maxlib) folders are downloaded to /Library/Pd/, just as 
>iemmatfrix or zexy but when launching pd it says "can't load library"

Hi,

I`m not an OSX user but:

Cyclone and maxlib are not Libs.

Are you loading them as libs in the preferences?

If so, don`t.

Also check if they appear in the pd browser (i think they should) and open some 
help patches.

Salutti,
Lucarda



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Re: [PD] Upgrading from Pd-extended to 47-0-64bits OSX

[Miller Puckette]

I'm guessing - but I believe to get cyclone you have to add the appropriate
shared library to "startup" in Pd's preferences - and perhps it's the same
for maxlib.

The other packages are implemented as separate files for each object, so that
they auto-load.

cheers
Miller

On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:38:11PM +0100, j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net wrote:
> Hello
> This is a attempt to migrate from pd-extended to more updated versions for 
> everyday use  :
> means im trying to make my own libraries (for the first time in 15 years)
> 
> I've discovered the ‘Find Externals’ lever in the main menu, and it works for 
> zexy, iemmatrix (so far) but i could not make it work for cyclone or maxlib
> 
> means (cyclone) and (maxlib) folders are downloaded to /Library/Pd/, just as 
> iemmatfrix or zexy but when launching pd it says "can’t load library"
> in all cases i do download the (Darwin-x86_64-32)(sources)-externals. 
> 
> Anything to ‘make’ ?
> 
> Sorry to post this obvious question, looked for a while hints on internet and 
> archives without success
> tks
> JmA
> 
> 
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[PD] Upgrading from Pd-extended to 47-0-64bits OSX

[j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net]

Hello
This is a attempt to migrate from pd-extended to more updated versions for 
everyday use  :
means im trying to make my own libraries (for the first time in 15 years)

I've discovered the ‘Find Externals’ lever in the main menu, and it works for 
zexy, iemmatrix (so far) but i could not make it work for cyclone or maxlib

means (cyclone) and (maxlib) folders are downloaded to /Library/Pd/, just as 
iemmatfrix or zexy but when launching pd it says "can’t load library"
in all cases i do download the (Darwin-x86_64-32)(sources)-externals. 

Anything to ‘make’ ?

Sorry to post this obvious question, looked for a while hints on internet and 
archives without success
tks
JmA


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